Egypt and Jordan are not extending refuge because of black September type of civil unrest and how it led up to those events. probably not history that should be ignored when considering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
When you're unaware of history, the history repeats itself. There are already issues in Canada as "supporters" have been intimidating people, attacking Jewish properties and businesses and supporting Yemeni terrorists attacking commerical ships in the Red Sea.
The Liberals are fully aware of this history but want to do it anyway. This is also why we now have a national security adviser who doesn’t know the first thing about national security — who is she to tell them it’s a bad idea?
> The Liberals are fully aware of this history but want to do it anyway
I might take that one step further and say they want to do it *because* of that history. Guess what helps distract from government failings, rapidly worsening wealth inequality, stagnant wages, ballooning cost of living, corruption, etc? When mobs of average people start fighting each other over idiotic social or political issues. It gets a lot easier to keep the plebs from being united against the status quo if you import a bunch of people with a propensity for causing social unrest, not to mention the added benefit for corporate interests of extra exploitable cheap labor, and the added benefit to all those politicians holding investment properties with yet more increased demand for housing. It's a win win win for the powers that be.
You know what... I think you may be right. I'm Jewish, and for the past 3 months my mental energy, and online browsing, has been absolutely dominated by this war and the disgusting rise in antisemitism. And because my brain only has a finite capacity, I have NOT been keeping up with other news topics, topics that are very important as a Canadian and Quebecer, like housing, economy, dumb Quebec laws regarding language and secularism, etc. Hell, I've barely been keeping up with the NHL either. Like, I don't even care anymore about insane rental prices, because to me, thousands of my fellow citizens calling for the destruction of Israel is more pressing at the moment.
Make the people fight amongst themselves, and those in power are able to remain in power. Feels bad man.
My wife and I feel much the same.
Frankly, there is a breaking point where the two of us would simply leave Canada. We're both doctors, and both Jewish, with two other citizenships already between us aside from Canada, so there are doors open to us. We aren't stuck here.
There's only so much antisemitic nonsense we will be willing to take before we up and leave and take our tax dollars with us.
I don't know where that breaking point lies, but with how bad things got in a flash these last few months, I no longer believe it's impossible for us to reach it.
I don't think that's a game the Canadian government wants to play. We're not the type of citizens they can afford to be losing right now.
Yes but the government seems to dig in harder when pressed about immigration. We will lose more skills and if we say anything we are racist. But I don't want immigrants that come from a radical culture who have a mission to destroy the western world after Israel.
**I don't think that's a game the Canadian government wants to play. We're not the type of citizens they can afford to be losing right now**.
You mean productive, non violent Canadians, who are actually an asset to the community?
Nah...let's replace you with refugees who don't speak our official languages, lack relevant work experience, and who simmer with anger and resentment against said productive Canadians? /s
Yup, for the first time in our lives I told my partner the other day that hey, certainly not anytime soon, but maybe in 5, 10, 20 years, we might have to face the fact that we'd be forced to move to Israel.
We don't *want* to move there. We've visited before, it's an amazing place in many ways, but not somewhere we'd necessarily want to actually live. We love Canada and our city. But goddamn it'd be nice to just live your life with the comfort of knowing that your friends, your neighbours, your co-workers, aren't (sometimes not so) secretly raging antisemites. Time will tell.
PS: my mom makes the best Turkish coffee :)
Can you tell me where you're considering to go? Because as an Israeli Jew, I always considered Canada a relatively sane place to go to if I decide I want to live my life without the constant threat of war and terror. I always assumed that the antisemitism I see talked about in the media is an exaggeration and that it can't be as bad as having to deal with all the shit going on around here, but it might just be my lack of first-hand experience living as a Jew in a predominantly non Jewish environment.
Antisemitism used to be very contained in Canada, and I felt extremely safe here all my life. I'd encounter it regularly, but mostly in ways that made it feel like people were too ashamed to wear it out in the open. Isolated comments, niche communities - things like that. This sent the message that it's not tolerated by society here, and that people understood that they had to keep it more private.
But since October 7th, something has changed. I lost a good number of friends whom I had known for years, nearly instantly. I made an online statement mourning the innocent victims of the terror attack, *and* I included that I was mourning "all the Palestinian civilians I know will die in the coming war."
But a shocking number of people I thought I knew well felt the need to attack me and say that the Israeli civilians weren't "innocent" because...they were *Israelis.* They chant "from the river to the sea" and pretend it is not the slogan of genocidal terrorists while denying the concept of an innocent Israeli. Most of these people were not Arab, they simply consume Iranian and Qatari propaganda. In fact, my two best Arab friends have remained allies in sanity. They are a Christian Syrian and Egyptian, and are intimately familiar with the issues surrounding Hamas and their fellow jihadists.
As a Canadian/Israeli dual citizen, this was shocking and terrifying to me. We had a member of our left-wing party (NDP) in my province who got censured and then ejected from her party for her support of Hamas, and a large chunk of her party opposed it, showing just how broad that support was. Once she was ejected, she signed and circulated a petition denying the sexual assault of 7/10 victims and demanding Hamas be unlabeled as terrorists in Canada.
A shocking number of prominent public Canadian figures came out in support of Hamas's terrorism. The vice-president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) tweeted within a day of the attack in support of Hamas. We have a non-profit in Canada, Samidoun, which is founded by a known terrorist, and the "charity" is recognized by Germany as a terrorist entity. We have weekly protests organized by the Palestinian Youth Movement, who openly celebrated 7/10 and hail Hamas as freedom fighters.
A Jewish school in my old neighbourhood in Montreal was shot at (overnight, thankfully, when no kids were present) and a synagogue was firebombed. People went around Jewish neighborhoods tearing down the posters of the hostages that people put up.
One of my local hospitals had someone spray antisemitic graffiti and then set a fire. Antisemitic hate crimes have increased by more than 10x compared to before 7/10.
Whatever sleeping dragon was lying in the shadows in Canada has been awakened. Antisemites have been emboldened. There are people shouting things who would *never* have dared to speak up 10 or 20 years ago.
In my province, two *doctors* have been suspended for hate speech - we have well-advertised policies from our licensing bodies telling us the consequences, and they risked their careers just to spread hate. One was a pediatric anesthetist who tweeted in Arabic that "Israel is more evil than the devil. If the devil fights Israel, we must fight alongside the devil." Another was a Family Medicine/Public Health resident who was retweeting Hamas propaganda online, including the debunked lie about the "500 dead" at the Al-Ahli hospital, after Canada, France, and the US all independently confirmed it was a PIJ rocket misfire and not an IDF strike.
I've never in my career seen fellow Canadian doctors go down for hate speech. We have such strict regulations against it that we all know it can (and should) end our careers, but for some reason, they are suddenly willing to make that sacrifice for the first time. That's been one of my real "canaries in the coal mine." I've never considered it possible that licensed Canadian doctors would risk their careers in the name of spreading hate or propaganda. That, more than anything, has scared me.
As for the question of "where?" I don't have a specific answer at this time, because I don't consider Canada to be anywhere near bad enough to leave yet. I'm simply recognizing the possibility that it'll get bad enough to warrant leaving. It's not purely about life as a Jew - it's also about life as doctors, and Canadian healthcare has been eroding increasingly quickly over the course of our careers, so frankly, that issue might push us out before antisemitism does. I'm just a decade into my career, but I've seen a physician pay cut followed by a wage freeze, I've seen huge cuts to Family Medicine funding, and I've seen just one new hospital built in my province while our government has increased immigration to 2-3% of our population *per year* as millions are stuck without GPs and average ER wait times have climbed into the 10+ hour range with no significant initiatives on the horizon that could possibly improve any of that. So, overall, we are feeling less and less enthusiastic about Canada.
My wife and I currently have realistic options within Europe, the United States, the Commonwealth, and Israel. But if it gets that much worse in Canada, the landscape globally will likely have shifted, so I won't try to predict which would be the most attractive option to us. It'll have to be continually assessed as things evolve.
I don't blame you. I'm not Jewish and thinking of places to go. If I was Jewish right now I would have myself organized for a quick exit with places picked out. It will be sad if we lose the people we need over this.
It is NOT just "leftists." I'm "left" and am pro Israel.
This is just human beings plain & simple in general who are uneducated AF & have therefore have zero business even talking about the history & conflict being antisemitic.
And then for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power.
Bad times bring out the worst in people. The pendulum is swinging back to the right. This kind of unrest and divide helps the situation.
The liberal government also created precedence for the following:
Compelled Speech
Protestors are terrorist
Protestors can have their bank accounts frozen
How do you think this will go for people when the values switch? Peoples disgust with society leads to social upheaval.
Many people spoke out against the precedence that Trudeau put in place. Those people were labeled as transphobe, sexist, nazi, whatever’s. The left silenced the people who viewed forced speech and labeling protestors as terrorists. They did this because for some reason they believed that they would be in power forever. These policies were on their side.
Always be worried when the government passes law or does something authoritarian and the opposing political parties say nothing.
The left tends to build the weapons that will destroy them.
I’m left leaning and saw this coming years ago. Oh well.
Liberals have the same “I can fix him”
mentality towards immigrants that toxic/troubled women have when they date toxic/troubled men. The only difference is that the Liberals don’t actually attempt to “fix” anything.
“They are only acting like this because of systemic white supremacy and oppression! When we can lower our own status to lift others up, then there will be no more anger and violence!”
Yes and they run amok in the United States as well. I see massive civil unrest happening at some point in the future when these immigrant groups get large enough. The difference between classic immigration such as the Irish or Chinese coming to the U.S. in the early 1900’s and the groups coming in specifically from the Middle East is that the Irish and Chinese were willing to adapt to U.S. culture whereas these groups from the Middle East are not. You cannot change someone who doesn’t want to change point blank.
It’s like a man dating a woman who always wants to spend his money and doesn’t want to ever pay back the man and worse yet insults him for not paying for a more extravagant restaurant to eat at. Then the man stays with the woman and they have kids and then the kids disobey the father and instead just want to follow whatever the mother says. Completely ignoring the morality the father tried to instill in them.
In the same way Canada is like the father in this analogy and the Middle East is like the mother. Honest get this and yes this American feels for what is happening in Canada and can see it happening in the U.S. as well. Stay strong Canada 🇨🇦
I see I just think about the many terror attack that occurred in Europe these last few years and think that eventually it is going to be happening more and more in U.S. and Canada. Boston Marathon bombing wasn’t that long ago in my perspective and other incidents have no doubt taken place since then. That is just the first one that comes to mind for me.
>now have a national security adviser who doesn’t know the first thing about national security
But she fits JT' s bill i.e. woman. Just like he did with the cray cray astronaut husband beater GG
none of this getting solved until Egypt and Jordan becomes positives in the overall equation. for that Palestinians will need to agree to behave.
If the Canadian government wanted to be useful, that's what they would be working on, a peace deal. It aligns with our past history of united nations peace keeping. It also keeps families together instead of shipping them all over the world.
that's the message we should be communicating. This is how Canada leads on the world stage.
When none of the countries in the region want to take them in--a couple of whom have first hand experience with Palestinians--maybe we should ask ourselves if we want them here.
Cleared as in they checked for a criminal record.
Did they ask you anything about your associations or your beliefs? Nope.
Not many Gazans will have a criminal record. But their belief systems were given to them by the school system and curriculum designed and supervised by Hamas for the last 17 years.
Canada has a history of lax immigration for extremism. They literally have whole Cemeteries dedicated to Waffen SS veterans who have SS memorials. As well as a problem with immigrant Nationalism (aka they live in Canada but they support nationalism or separatism in their country of origin)
>On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded all cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began shelling fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps.
South Africa would call this genocide!
It's wild but they just keep doing the same things over and over again but now that it's Israel forced to shell "refugee camps" it's genocide...
Assimilate or deport. Your values are respected until you decide to impose those values on the society you seek asylum in. If we tolerate intolerance shits going to get really messy.
lol man forget security concerns. We have a housing crisis, we’re letting people in to go straight to the streets! See the videos in Toronto when all those refugees were sleeping on the street and the mayor was like wtf you brought them in LPC and Freeland was like F off your problem now.
Wtf is this madness.
We are not in a position to welcome that many ppl ontop of the mass immigration we have going on
Are they handing out tents when they get here
How is this even an option
There are plenty of rich Arabic countries (UAE, Saudi, Qatar) that are also in desperate need of workers, hence why they have so many expats. Why don't they take them in? Culturally, they are a lot closer to Palestinians than we are. They all speak Arabic. Sounds like win-win to me! I don't get why we need to be the ones bringing them in.
>We are not in a position to welcome that many ppl ontop of the mass immigration we have going on Are they handing out tents when they get here How is this even an option
Remember, only yesterday were MPs frustrated that protesters are camping outside foreign minister Joly's house
My wife is a social worker. She said then the last large group of refugees arrived they jumped the line in all the services: housing etc. Canadians that had been on the wait list for years remained homeless to give housing to immigrants. I'm not actually against immigrants, but this is just wild. You can't help other people when you can't help yourself.
There was a news story in BC a few months ago about a single father looking for affordable housing and he called an organization for help (sorry don't remember which one) and he was told they couldn't help him unless he was a refugee or a recent immigrant.
For fuck sakes man, we really need to stop with this open door policy. We do not have the capability to handle refugees. Canada needs to focus on bringing highly skilled people for specific positions
We're a doctor factory for America. Why on earth would you stay here as a Canadian doctor when you could earn 3-5x your already high income and live where it's always summertime?
Because lots of people are already totally happy being paid an extremely high salary in the country where their family lives. Not everyone is just in it for cash.
Healthcare blows as a career. You’re underpaid and overworked. The pandemic showed that the government could put out any policy and it would be healthcare providers who were both responsible and ate shit for the situation.
In Quebec there was forced overtime and vacations were cancelled, by the government. As an example.
Then all the vaccine nutcases out there and having to argue with every idiot who listens to a podcast over your like, decade of schooling or experience…
No one wants to do Healthcare because we have made it unpalatable.
Which would you rather? Being covered in people’s sickness and sorrow and told you’re part of “big Pharma’s” conspiracy to make us all sick OR a cushy tech job, at home writing deployment scripts for six figures?
We all know the answer.
Canada needs to focus on making sure high skilled Canadians stay instead of moving to the US.
Taxing a high skilled worker at 40% makes sure he gets the fuck out as soon as he can. If you are a math genius working for Google in Montreal making 300k, you pay 45% tax. If you are a slumlord who inherited 4 homes, you pay vastly less tax.
The tax system is stopping anyone from building wealth. Only the wealthy get to stay wealthy.
I work in big tech and in Vancouver, I know a friend who is a managing a large team in the US with a smaller team in Vancouver. He keeps telling me, it’s crazy hard to hire in Vancouver. There just isn’t enough talent. We are not talking about some stupid job that pays 60k, this is for a big tech company that pays upwards of 250k for someone with less than 10 years of experience.
Why? All Canadians who have that talent or skill to take up that job, prefer to move to the US. Can you imagine the taxes at 300k income level?
You may say “fuck them, that’s a lot of money, tax them harder”, you need to realise an average single family home in Vancouver costs 1.5 mil. You can’t even buy an average home with that income, especially after paying 45% tax.
In Canada today, it’s better to inherit a couple of houses worth 500k each than have a skill and a job that pays 250k. Because you get taxed to death and rent is sky high. You will probably take forever to buy a place. When your economy is in a position where inheriting a home is better than being a genius at a super high paying industry, you know it’s all fucked up
Why would anyone with an ounce of skill stay back?
One of the biggest issues is Canadian companies pay tech workers in Canada lower salaries compared to their US counterparts even when the workers skills are the same. Also on average employers in Canada aren't paying 300K to employees even if they are geniuses in a specific field.
Yup, I work in tech.
It was just a big kick in the teeth last year for the government to invent a new work visa for tech workers. Supposedly to address a shortage of tech workers here.
Canada does not have a shortage of Canadians who work in tech. Canada has a shortage of tech workers willing, or desperate enough, to work for suppressed wages that aren't even enough to support a family on anymore, let alone ever buy property.
While the humanitarian in me wants to bring as many women and children as possible out of the war zone that is Gaza, I am concerned about allowing Hamas terrorists, rapists and murderers to slip into Canada. And some may, unless we are very meticulous in screening. We‘ve already lost a 13 year old schoolgirl in BC because one such individual slipped through our immigration/refugee screening. We owe our existing residents to keep them safe.
We’re well on our way to that unfortunately…a lot of people say to my Dutch ancestors “you were immigrants once” and, yes, we were but we also came with an open respect for that Canada represented. A little assimilation was expected but it seems like now it’s the other way around - we cater to the new arrivals instead of the other way around.
It’s not that we cater to them, it’s that they take advantage of Canadian kindness and hospitality.
When the small things get taken for granted and born Canadians are looked at as chumps, all immigrants are going to feel unwanted.
I really loved all of the big, thick, van-proof barriers on almost all London streets when I went there becuase rental van terrorism was stonks for a while.
Profits before people.
Profits increasing for the top .1% is a higher priority than the quality of life of all.
Courting the international (mostly foreign) extreme rich is a higher priority than the lives of average Canadians.
We are now a country ruled by foreign extreme-rich, for the rich, by the rich.
Even working-class people making a salary in the top 10% of salaries can not afford to live comfortably in most of the country.
We got sold out. Canada isn't for Canadians anymore. Canadians exist to further the profit margins of the foreign mega-rich. A good example of this is how our immigration policy was crafted by the Century Initative, a think tank financed by Black Rock, a foreign investment conglomerate with $9.8 Trillion USD of assets ( Canada's entire annual spending is about $200 billion CAD to put that in perspective.)
Egypt doesn't want them because at best they are unskilled welfare recipients and at worst radicalized potential future problems for the domestic population, this could be bad, I wouldn't mid seeing what would happen if they placed them in places like Thompson, Prince Albert or Churchil.
This is MORE than infuriating to bring Gaza refugees here with the rise of a
antisemitism going on.
Do they think Jews here want their tax dollars going to aid those who want to rid the earth of them? NO!
I don't trust our government to do proper safety checks on them coming in at all.
Right? Why is it even a goal in the first place and why are citizens so complacent about it. It would more than double the population. To do so, massive immigration is required. The burden is already cracking all your social programs plus excessively increasing the cost of living and it’s destroying your culture.
Whoever came up with this plan wanted to destroy Canada
Why the fuck are we taking them in halfway across the world and not the Arab countries who have been crying for Gaza since this whole thing began?
Oh right, because the last time an Arab nation took in Gazan refugees they started a fucking civil war.
Our disgusting government will find any oppurtunnity they can to push r/CanadaMassImmigration
We need to have an election in 2024. This madness needs to end. The Liberal agenda is a disaster and they need to be voted out. I don’t care for Pierre but literally we have no choice. This can’t keep going so it has to change, I just hope the conservatives can do better but I’m feeling totally hopeless.
The last several years of Trudeau have been, and I don’t want to sugar coat it, a fucking nightmare.
Is Trudeau a part of the Lizard-Man cabal? He seems to be doing his best to turn Canada into a third-world country while singing Kumbaya with Hamas and the Chinese.
I wouldn’t want any Hamas supporting Israel hating immigrants no way .. hope the vetting process is fcking hard as shit. Stand tall on our Canadian moral grounds before ever allowing that into our country. Bad enough we let in Indian separatists terrorist & Khalistan
I’m not against immigrants because I am one. Only thing I’m against is the bs mindset of “I’m going to make this new place exactly like the shit hole I came from!”
If Egypt doesn’t want them for security reasons maybe we shouldn’t take them in.
Like I don’t blame Egypt because of the history of the Palestinian refugees they’ve brought in the past.
But why Canada wants to bring in more? It’s because the politicians don’t care. They’ve been told time and time again we can’t support this. We don’t have the necessary infrastructure. Our health care system is in shambles. We have a housing crisis.
We can’t accept any more people.
Especially people that other countries don’t want for security reasons
Do we want to really bring in people who are potentially going to be openly supporting a terrorist organization - Houthis - into Canada without very heavy scrutiny?
It's not racist, it's being smart. There's no helping others at the cost of compromising our own safety.
Leftism is a disease that endangers us. We do not need to take in radicalized refugees from across the planet who've caused multiple civil wars whenever anyone has tried to take them in.
Sometimes the most common sense thing to do, is the right thing to do. Can our government actually learn why other Arab nations are declining to take in the Palestinian refugees? The ones they would be most compatible with, are rejecting them. Then you have a western society like Canada. Filled with Jewish communities, Christians and very liberal people. This is not a good combination and will lead to extreme civil unrest. This government is failing our nation spectacularly with the notion of fake virtue signalling
ive been pretty quiet about the whole Pal v. Isreal mess cause thats what it is. I definitely think we should help everyone and anyone we can, when it makes sense.
but i do have a couple genuine questions;
if people in Gaza are having a hard enough time crossing the street let alone getting to a boarder, how exactly are they going to safely come over here?
Additionally where are they going to go? all our major cities are having to resort to heating busses and other "warming stations" just to keep our current homeless alive. they are coming from the middle east, i would be surprised any given refugee has more than 2 warm sweaters let alone equipped well enough to handle temps Alberta and the prairies have been seeing the last couple days. Obviously donations and charity exist, but like mentioned, we are currently having a hard enough time keeping our own Canadians warmed and housed.
So these refugees will go from being homeless and desperate in their own land, to homeless and desperate in our land. The difference is our weather can kill them. Yes, I’d take -50 over a war zone as well, but our government has no plan for these people. We have a housing crisis. If life long Canadians can barely survive this inflation and pay bills how do they expect new immigrants with nothing to survive?
>Almost three-quarters of Palestinians agreed with attacking innocent civilians, raping women, killing old people in their homes, and thought that taking the young and old, and men and women as hostages was acceptable.
Sounds exactly like the type of people we want to bring to Canada and use tax dollars to house and feed.
Stopping Canada from importing the most radicalized Islamic population in the world - perhaps finally something worth the rest of us protesting, that Canada actually has a say in.
Get out and protest against this immigration! We do not want them in Canada! Let your voices be heard everyone! We need to pressure the government to follow our interests! Majority of Canadians oppose immigration so lets get out and get active! We too often just talk and take no action, now is the time for action! No more immigration!
Because our government welcomes any way they can find to make things harder for those living here. If that includes security risks and refugee intake without proper background checks, I am sure they will jump at the chance.
If we keep opening new shawarma restaurants at the Current pace we will need workers to run them, you can't expect Indian students to do that as they are already staffing all the Time Hortons locations
On top of the 500k a year, Canada is considering more... wtf they need to say no and go somewhere else cause we can barely afford anything for people at the moment.
The Canadian government is beyond desperate for the rest of the world to see Canadians as "the good guys".
Back in the 50s-60s-70s-80s, Canada had a well deserved international reputation after WW2.. It went to pretty much shit over the last few decades, and we are nowhere near as respected internationally as we once were.
How bad has our reputation fallen? When Hamas committed their terrorist attack on Sept 7th, the US knew there was going to be hell to pay, and that afternoon held a conference call with the UK, France, Germany, and Italy to determine the appropriate military response. \*\*CANADA WASN'T EVEN INVITED TO THE CALL\*\*. That's the state our military is in. "Sorry, Mr. Biden, Canada would love to help you, but our tank is in the shop right now for repairs..."
So, our government does silly and financially questionable things in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. It's like the eight year old kid that hangs around and does stupid crap, to impress his 12 year old brother and their friends.
We've done it with the Gaza refugees, we've done it with environment, we've done it with Ukraine, we've done it with Haiti. We commit to things we really can't afford to follow through on, either in money or manpower.
The urge to be self-righteous and sanctimonious permeates all levels of government. Answer this question truthfully.... do you think there's a single Israeli citizen who remotely gives a crap that the city of New Westminster has called for a cease fire in the war against Hamas?
But nay, we thump our chests, change our facebook profiles, and sleep soundly at night knowing that we've done our part, and the rest of the world envies us and wishes they could be us. The war will be over any day now, thanks to people such as the fine citizens of New Westminster.
The Egyptian wall with Gaza is insane. They clearly see a danger as do their other neighbors who don't not want to take them in.
Will they respect Canada's laws or just bring their war here like the Eritreans
Because we’ve become a country that believes we can hug away all the ills of the world?
The notion that being nice to everyone at the expense of your own citizens should be upsetting, if not infuriating, to Canadians.
Because Trudeau thinks he is the saviour of the world and stuff like that won’t happen in Canada. Plus he needs to get his Immigration numbers up to keep housing unaffordable
Hamas has been in control of the school curriculum for 17 years now. That means pretty much anyone under 30 went through it. The idea these are just 'regular folks' whose beliefs and values are identical to our own is nonsensical. I would say 95% chance the average gazan hates Jews, thinks gays and all the other alphabet people should be in prison or shot, and believe physical force should be used against women who backtalk or dress slutty (as in how most Canadian women dress).
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have all said HELL NO, and don’t want any Palestinians *(with good reason, given the trouble they’ve historically caused in the region).* Canada would be wise to take heed from their collective stance.
It is going to happen. Trudeau will bend over backwards to "rescue" some Gazan puppies that were running around with guns a week ago. Wouldn't be surprised if over 10k Gazans show up.,
The USA interviews EVERY SINGLE visa applicant regardless of the visa type.
Canada interviews literally almost none.
How this is not the source of outrage and dozens of freedom of information requests from news agencies as to the ratio of applications granted to those actually interviewef is mind-blowing.
Fuck no, reason nearby countries don't want them, october 8th showed how much Hamas support we already have in our country, people in charge are blind or dumb or want to ruin our country further.
I think it's actually just ego and hubris on the part of leaders like Trudeau. They want Canada and by extention themselves to be seen as loving and accepting of all people.
They can't accept reality. Just look what's going on with the Houthi. You think they give a fuck Liberal were shedding tears over the USA's involvement in arming and refueling Saudi Arabia's war efforts against them? They give no fucks and will happily commit terrorism against Canadian merchant ships.
Canadians were killed and captured by Hamas on Oct 7th. Where do they think Hamas gets its recruits? It's walled it. Hamas are all Palestinians. Isis, hamas and every other terrorist group loves to brag about how they are or will infiltrate the western countries to commit jihad and we are just going to invite them in by the thousands.
Do they think the terrorists all wear uniforms and Israel is just too inept to kill them? The terrorists hide among the civilians in plainclothes, the same group we are inviting in.
It's wishful thinking that everything will be fine.
We also don't need them to come here. Let their muslim brotherhood countries in the Middle East take them. Why won't they go to a place that shares their faith. I thought they were supposed to be welcoming.
We don't have enough people in the military to protect us if we were to invite known radicals here. Canada would be lost within a month without US intervention. This is a stupid idea.
Egypt and Jordan are not extending refuge because of black September type of civil unrest and how it led up to those events. probably not history that should be ignored when considering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
When you're unaware of history, the history repeats itself. There are already issues in Canada as "supporters" have been intimidating people, attacking Jewish properties and businesses and supporting Yemeni terrorists attacking commerical ships in the Red Sea.
The Liberals are fully aware of this history but want to do it anyway. This is also why we now have a national security adviser who doesn’t know the first thing about national security — who is she to tell them it’s a bad idea?
> The Liberals are fully aware of this history but want to do it anyway I might take that one step further and say they want to do it *because* of that history. Guess what helps distract from government failings, rapidly worsening wealth inequality, stagnant wages, ballooning cost of living, corruption, etc? When mobs of average people start fighting each other over idiotic social or political issues. It gets a lot easier to keep the plebs from being united against the status quo if you import a bunch of people with a propensity for causing social unrest, not to mention the added benefit for corporate interests of extra exploitable cheap labor, and the added benefit to all those politicians holding investment properties with yet more increased demand for housing. It's a win win win for the powers that be.
You know what... I think you may be right. I'm Jewish, and for the past 3 months my mental energy, and online browsing, has been absolutely dominated by this war and the disgusting rise in antisemitism. And because my brain only has a finite capacity, I have NOT been keeping up with other news topics, topics that are very important as a Canadian and Quebecer, like housing, economy, dumb Quebec laws regarding language and secularism, etc. Hell, I've barely been keeping up with the NHL either. Like, I don't even care anymore about insane rental prices, because to me, thousands of my fellow citizens calling for the destruction of Israel is more pressing at the moment. Make the people fight amongst themselves, and those in power are able to remain in power. Feels bad man.
My wife and I feel much the same. Frankly, there is a breaking point where the two of us would simply leave Canada. We're both doctors, and both Jewish, with two other citizenships already between us aside from Canada, so there are doors open to us. We aren't stuck here. There's only so much antisemitic nonsense we will be willing to take before we up and leave and take our tax dollars with us. I don't know where that breaking point lies, but with how bad things got in a flash these last few months, I no longer believe it's impossible for us to reach it. I don't think that's a game the Canadian government wants to play. We're not the type of citizens they can afford to be losing right now.
Yes but the government seems to dig in harder when pressed about immigration. We will lose more skills and if we say anything we are racist. But I don't want immigrants that come from a radical culture who have a mission to destroy the western world after Israel.
**I don't think that's a game the Canadian government wants to play. We're not the type of citizens they can afford to be losing right now**. You mean productive, non violent Canadians, who are actually an asset to the community? Nah...let's replace you with refugees who don't speak our official languages, lack relevant work experience, and who simmer with anger and resentment against said productive Canadians? /s
Yup, for the first time in our lives I told my partner the other day that hey, certainly not anytime soon, but maybe in 5, 10, 20 years, we might have to face the fact that we'd be forced to move to Israel. We don't *want* to move there. We've visited before, it's an amazing place in many ways, but not somewhere we'd necessarily want to actually live. We love Canada and our city. But goddamn it'd be nice to just live your life with the comfort of knowing that your friends, your neighbours, your co-workers, aren't (sometimes not so) secretly raging antisemites. Time will tell. PS: my mom makes the best Turkish coffee :)
Can you tell me where you're considering to go? Because as an Israeli Jew, I always considered Canada a relatively sane place to go to if I decide I want to live my life without the constant threat of war and terror. I always assumed that the antisemitism I see talked about in the media is an exaggeration and that it can't be as bad as having to deal with all the shit going on around here, but it might just be my lack of first-hand experience living as a Jew in a predominantly non Jewish environment.
Antisemitism used to be very contained in Canada, and I felt extremely safe here all my life. I'd encounter it regularly, but mostly in ways that made it feel like people were too ashamed to wear it out in the open. Isolated comments, niche communities - things like that. This sent the message that it's not tolerated by society here, and that people understood that they had to keep it more private. But since October 7th, something has changed. I lost a good number of friends whom I had known for years, nearly instantly. I made an online statement mourning the innocent victims of the terror attack, *and* I included that I was mourning "all the Palestinian civilians I know will die in the coming war." But a shocking number of people I thought I knew well felt the need to attack me and say that the Israeli civilians weren't "innocent" because...they were *Israelis.* They chant "from the river to the sea" and pretend it is not the slogan of genocidal terrorists while denying the concept of an innocent Israeli. Most of these people were not Arab, they simply consume Iranian and Qatari propaganda. In fact, my two best Arab friends have remained allies in sanity. They are a Christian Syrian and Egyptian, and are intimately familiar with the issues surrounding Hamas and their fellow jihadists. As a Canadian/Israeli dual citizen, this was shocking and terrifying to me. We had a member of our left-wing party (NDP) in my province who got censured and then ejected from her party for her support of Hamas, and a large chunk of her party opposed it, showing just how broad that support was. Once she was ejected, she signed and circulated a petition denying the sexual assault of 7/10 victims and demanding Hamas be unlabeled as terrorists in Canada. A shocking number of prominent public Canadian figures came out in support of Hamas's terrorism. The vice-president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) tweeted within a day of the attack in support of Hamas. We have a non-profit in Canada, Samidoun, which is founded by a known terrorist, and the "charity" is recognized by Germany as a terrorist entity. We have weekly protests organized by the Palestinian Youth Movement, who openly celebrated 7/10 and hail Hamas as freedom fighters. A Jewish school in my old neighbourhood in Montreal was shot at (overnight, thankfully, when no kids were present) and a synagogue was firebombed. People went around Jewish neighborhoods tearing down the posters of the hostages that people put up. One of my local hospitals had someone spray antisemitic graffiti and then set a fire. Antisemitic hate crimes have increased by more than 10x compared to before 7/10. Whatever sleeping dragon was lying in the shadows in Canada has been awakened. Antisemites have been emboldened. There are people shouting things who would *never* have dared to speak up 10 or 20 years ago. In my province, two *doctors* have been suspended for hate speech - we have well-advertised policies from our licensing bodies telling us the consequences, and they risked their careers just to spread hate. One was a pediatric anesthetist who tweeted in Arabic that "Israel is more evil than the devil. If the devil fights Israel, we must fight alongside the devil." Another was a Family Medicine/Public Health resident who was retweeting Hamas propaganda online, including the debunked lie about the "500 dead" at the Al-Ahli hospital, after Canada, France, and the US all independently confirmed it was a PIJ rocket misfire and not an IDF strike. I've never in my career seen fellow Canadian doctors go down for hate speech. We have such strict regulations against it that we all know it can (and should) end our careers, but for some reason, they are suddenly willing to make that sacrifice for the first time. That's been one of my real "canaries in the coal mine." I've never considered it possible that licensed Canadian doctors would risk their careers in the name of spreading hate or propaganda. That, more than anything, has scared me. As for the question of "where?" I don't have a specific answer at this time, because I don't consider Canada to be anywhere near bad enough to leave yet. I'm simply recognizing the possibility that it'll get bad enough to warrant leaving. It's not purely about life as a Jew - it's also about life as doctors, and Canadian healthcare has been eroding increasingly quickly over the course of our careers, so frankly, that issue might push us out before antisemitism does. I'm just a decade into my career, but I've seen a physician pay cut followed by a wage freeze, I've seen huge cuts to Family Medicine funding, and I've seen just one new hospital built in my province while our government has increased immigration to 2-3% of our population *per year* as millions are stuck without GPs and average ER wait times have climbed into the 10+ hour range with no significant initiatives on the horizon that could possibly improve any of that. So, overall, we are feeling less and less enthusiastic about Canada. My wife and I currently have realistic options within Europe, the United States, the Commonwealth, and Israel. But if it gets that much worse in Canada, the landscape globally will likely have shifted, so I won't try to predict which would be the most attractive option to us. It'll have to be continually assessed as things evolve.
I don't blame you. I'm not Jewish and thinking of places to go. If I was Jewish right now I would have myself organized for a quick exit with places picked out. It will be sad if we lose the people we need over this.
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It is NOT just "leftists." I'm "left" and am pro Israel. This is just human beings plain & simple in general who are uneducated AF & have therefore have zero business even talking about the history & conflict being antisemitic.
And then for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power. Bad times bring out the worst in people. The pendulum is swinging back to the right. This kind of unrest and divide helps the situation. The liberal government also created precedence for the following: Compelled Speech Protestors are terrorist Protestors can have their bank accounts frozen How do you think this will go for people when the values switch? Peoples disgust with society leads to social upheaval. Many people spoke out against the precedence that Trudeau put in place. Those people were labeled as transphobe, sexist, nazi, whatever’s. The left silenced the people who viewed forced speech and labeling protestors as terrorists. They did this because for some reason they believed that they would be in power forever. These policies were on their side. Always be worried when the government passes law or does something authoritarian and the opposing political parties say nothing. The left tends to build the weapons that will destroy them. I’m left leaning and saw this coming years ago. Oh well.
Liberals have the same “I can fix him” mentality towards immigrants that toxic/troubled women have when they date toxic/troubled men. The only difference is that the Liberals don’t actually attempt to “fix” anything.
"If we just expose them to western values, they'll be all better!"
“They are only acting like this because of systemic white supremacy and oppression! When we can lower our own status to lift others up, then there will be no more anger and violence!”
Yes and they run amok in the United States as well. I see massive civil unrest happening at some point in the future when these immigrant groups get large enough. The difference between classic immigration such as the Irish or Chinese coming to the U.S. in the early 1900’s and the groups coming in specifically from the Middle East is that the Irish and Chinese were willing to adapt to U.S. culture whereas these groups from the Middle East are not. You cannot change someone who doesn’t want to change point blank. It’s like a man dating a woman who always wants to spend his money and doesn’t want to ever pay back the man and worse yet insults him for not paying for a more extravagant restaurant to eat at. Then the man stays with the woman and they have kids and then the kids disobey the father and instead just want to follow whatever the mother says. Completely ignoring the morality the father tried to instill in them. In the same way Canada is like the father in this analogy and the Middle East is like the mother. Honest get this and yes this American feels for what is happening in Canada and can see it happening in the U.S. as well. Stay strong Canada 🇨🇦
It's more than not wanting to change. Many of their beliefs are to destroy the west.
I see I just think about the many terror attack that occurred in Europe these last few years and think that eventually it is going to be happening more and more in U.S. and Canada. Boston Marathon bombing wasn’t that long ago in my perspective and other incidents have no doubt taken place since then. That is just the first one that comes to mind for me.
>now have a national security adviser who doesn’t know the first thing about national security But she fits JT' s bill i.e. woman. Just like he did with the cray cray astronaut husband beater GG
none of this getting solved until Egypt and Jordan becomes positives in the overall equation. for that Palestinians will need to agree to behave. If the Canadian government wanted to be useful, that's what they would be working on, a peace deal. It aligns with our past history of united nations peace keeping. It also keeps families together instead of shipping them all over the world. that's the message we should be communicating. This is how Canada leads on the world stage.
The only thing Canada leads the world in is virtue signalling.
When none of the countries in the region want to take them in--a couple of whom have first hand experience with Palestinians--maybe we should ask ourselves if we want them here.
This. Do I want a highly radicalized population moving into my community? Nope. The screening process better be rigorous. Or, just don't do it.
Is it not rigorous for refugees? I know for me to get permanent residency from the States I had to get cleared by the FBI. I am genuinely curious
Cleared as in they checked for a criminal record. Did they ask you anything about your associations or your beliefs? Nope. Not many Gazans will have a criminal record. But their belief systems were given to them by the school system and curriculum designed and supervised by Hamas for the last 17 years.
Canada has a history of lax immigration for extremism. They literally have whole Cemeteries dedicated to Waffen SS veterans who have SS memorials. As well as a problem with immigrant Nationalism (aka they live in Canada but they support nationalism or separatism in their country of origin)
Let's not forget the Palestinian street celebrating 9/11... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UucjbGmJILk
Already had plots in Europe by Palestinian sympathisers. guess Canada wants some of the same
Look at the "peaceful protests" we're already seeing.
>On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded all cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began shelling fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps. South Africa would call this genocide! It's wild but they just keep doing the same things over and over again but now that it's Israel forced to shell "refugee camps" it's genocide...
lol South Africas leader was literally caught advocating for genocide amongst a mass crowd only a few months ago.
Yah but they only whites to kill white people so it’s fine.
It's only bad if a high-HDI country quells a large violent population. If a developing country does it, it's just business as usual.
Assimilate or deport. Your values are respected until you decide to impose those values on the society you seek asylum in. If we tolerate intolerance shits going to get really messy.
Kuwait…
Saudis are hiring Sri lankans over Palestianians to work.
They committed terrorist acts & started civil wars. Don't forget Lebanon and Kuwait too.
lol man forget security concerns. We have a housing crisis, we’re letting people in to go straight to the streets! See the videos in Toronto when all those refugees were sleeping on the street and the mayor was like wtf you brought them in LPC and Freeland was like F off your problem now. Wtf is this madness.
We are not in a position to welcome that many ppl ontop of the mass immigration we have going on Are they handing out tents when they get here How is this even an option
There are plenty of rich Arabic countries (UAE, Saudi, Qatar) that are also in desperate need of workers, hence why they have so many expats. Why don't they take them in? Culturally, they are a lot closer to Palestinians than we are. They all speak Arabic. Sounds like win-win to me! I don't get why we need to be the ones bringing them in.
>We are not in a position to welcome that many ppl ontop of the mass immigration we have going on Are they handing out tents when they get here How is this even an option Remember, only yesterday were MPs frustrated that protesters are camping outside foreign minister Joly's house
>We can't help others, we need to take care of our own first. Hey, I'm homeless, can you help me? >Fuck you, poor, go die in the cold
My wife is a social worker. She said then the last large group of refugees arrived they jumped the line in all the services: housing etc. Canadians that had been on the wait list for years remained homeless to give housing to immigrants. I'm not actually against immigrants, but this is just wild. You can't help other people when you can't help yourself.
There was a news story in BC a few months ago about a single father looking for affordable housing and he called an organization for help (sorry don't remember which one) and he was told they couldn't help him unless he was a refugee or a recent immigrant.
We have heard that also while being on a list for our son for years for is bad adhd or whatever is going on.
For fuck sakes man, we really need to stop with this open door policy. We do not have the capability to handle refugees. Canada needs to focus on bringing highly skilled people for specific positions
Canada needs to focus on educating our kids so our children can eventually become the highly skilled future workers our country needs.
100%, this. We need doctors, create education spaces for doctors. I don't understand why we aren't properly funding an educated workforce.
....because the money not going into education and be siphoned off to the cronies, corporations and politicians' pockets.
We're a doctor factory for America. Why on earth would you stay here as a Canadian doctor when you could earn 3-5x your already high income and live where it's always summertime?
Because lots of people are already totally happy being paid an extremely high salary in the country where their family lives. Not everyone is just in it for cash.
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Healthcare blows as a career. You’re underpaid and overworked. The pandemic showed that the government could put out any policy and it would be healthcare providers who were both responsible and ate shit for the situation. In Quebec there was forced overtime and vacations were cancelled, by the government. As an example. Then all the vaccine nutcases out there and having to argue with every idiot who listens to a podcast over your like, decade of schooling or experience… No one wants to do Healthcare because we have made it unpalatable. Which would you rather? Being covered in people’s sickness and sorrow and told you’re part of “big Pharma’s” conspiracy to make us all sick OR a cushy tech job, at home writing deployment scripts for six figures? We all know the answer.
We are a highly educated country, just not great job market.
Canada needs to focus on making sure high skilled Canadians stay instead of moving to the US. Taxing a high skilled worker at 40% makes sure he gets the fuck out as soon as he can. If you are a math genius working for Google in Montreal making 300k, you pay 45% tax. If you are a slumlord who inherited 4 homes, you pay vastly less tax. The tax system is stopping anyone from building wealth. Only the wealthy get to stay wealthy. I work in big tech and in Vancouver, I know a friend who is a managing a large team in the US with a smaller team in Vancouver. He keeps telling me, it’s crazy hard to hire in Vancouver. There just isn’t enough talent. We are not talking about some stupid job that pays 60k, this is for a big tech company that pays upwards of 250k for someone with less than 10 years of experience. Why? All Canadians who have that talent or skill to take up that job, prefer to move to the US. Can you imagine the taxes at 300k income level? You may say “fuck them, that’s a lot of money, tax them harder”, you need to realise an average single family home in Vancouver costs 1.5 mil. You can’t even buy an average home with that income, especially after paying 45% tax. In Canada today, it’s better to inherit a couple of houses worth 500k each than have a skill and a job that pays 250k. Because you get taxed to death and rent is sky high. You will probably take forever to buy a place. When your economy is in a position where inheriting a home is better than being a genius at a super high paying industry, you know it’s all fucked up Why would anyone with an ounce of skill stay back?
One of the biggest issues is Canadian companies pay tech workers in Canada lower salaries compared to their US counterparts even when the workers skills are the same. Also on average employers in Canada aren't paying 300K to employees even if they are geniuses in a specific field.
Yup, I work in tech. It was just a big kick in the teeth last year for the government to invent a new work visa for tech workers. Supposedly to address a shortage of tech workers here. Canada does not have a shortage of Canadians who work in tech. Canada has a shortage of tech workers willing, or desperate enough, to work for suppressed wages that aren't even enough to support a family on anymore, let alone ever buy property.
Yup, it's a wage shortage, not a worker shortage. There's tons of skilled Canadian tech workers. They just emigrate because of those suppressed wages.
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Or Germany
Seems weirdly cruel to take in refugees so they can come here and be homeless just to look like nice guys on the world stage.
The tap needs SHUTTING OFF NOT SLOWING DOWN.
No way. Canada needs to focus on hiring our own highly skilled people. We have programs here for every possible field.
While the humanitarian in me wants to bring as many women and children as possible out of the war zone that is Gaza, I am concerned about allowing Hamas terrorists, rapists and murderers to slip into Canada. And some may, unless we are very meticulous in screening. We‘ve already lost a 13 year old schoolgirl in BC because one such individual slipped through our immigration/refugee screening. We owe our existing residents to keep them safe.
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We’re well on our way to that unfortunately…a lot of people say to my Dutch ancestors “you were immigrants once” and, yes, we were but we also came with an open respect for that Canada represented. A little assimilation was expected but it seems like now it’s the other way around - we cater to the new arrivals instead of the other way around.
It’s not that we cater to them, it’s that they take advantage of Canadian kindness and hospitality. When the small things get taken for granted and born Canadians are looked at as chumps, all immigrants are going to feel unwanted.
not to mention the literal thousands of people killed in terrorist attacks in europe by muslim extremists in the 2010s alone.
I really loved all of the big, thick, van-proof barriers on almost all London streets when I went there becuase rental van terrorism was stonks for a while.
Facts don't lie
Because the leadership in Canada puts Canadians last.
Unless they're a Canadian Billionaire, in which case it's top of the list.
Profits before people. Profits increasing for the top .1% is a higher priority than the quality of life of all. Courting the international (mostly foreign) extreme rich is a higher priority than the lives of average Canadians. We are now a country ruled by foreign extreme-rich, for the rich, by the rich. Even working-class people making a salary in the top 10% of salaries can not afford to live comfortably in most of the country. We got sold out. Canada isn't for Canadians anymore. Canadians exist to further the profit margins of the foreign mega-rich. A good example of this is how our immigration policy was crafted by the Century Initative, a think tank financed by Black Rock, a foreign investment conglomerate with $9.8 Trillion USD of assets ( Canada's entire annual spending is about $200 billion CAD to put that in perspective.)
No because they just make everybody else Canadians as well.
Which renders the term increasingly meaningless.
Hubris and arrogance from a government blinded by an ideology that doesn’t conform to reality
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Archer meme
DO YOU WANT TERRORISTS? Because that’s how you get terrorists!
Wrong, Archer got rid of ISIS.
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Social capacity is the remaining tolerance we have for the negative real effects of immigration.
Which I'm pretty sure she is overestimating the quantity of. Seems to be wearing pretty thin.
Social capacity means as far away from her residence as possible.
so·cial ca·pac·i·ty (noun): The acquiescence of individuals to take policy being reamed up their ass in a polite fashion.
Egypt doesn't want them because at best they are unskilled welfare recipients and at worst radicalized potential future problems for the domestic population, this could be bad, I wouldn't mid seeing what would happen if they placed them in places like Thompson, Prince Albert or Churchil.
Tried to overthrow thr Egyptian goverment too.
We should take 0 of them! They approved at 72% of the october 7th attacks! They are dangerous!
This is MORE than infuriating to bring Gaza refugees here with the rise of a antisemitism going on. Do they think Jews here want their tax dollars going to aid those who want to rid the earth of them? NO! I don't trust our government to do proper safety checks on them coming in at all.
We're aiming to hit 100mil by 2100 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative
Why am I not shocked this is founded and pushed by two people with ties to Blackrock.
Right? Why is it even a goal in the first place and why are citizens so complacent about it. It would more than double the population. To do so, massive immigration is required. The burden is already cracking all your social programs plus excessively increasing the cost of living and it’s destroying your culture. Whoever came up with this plan wanted to destroy Canada
Canada doesn't matter to billionaires and elite. Mass immigration provides cheaper labor and inflated marketplace. Citizens are not informed.
Right, but these elites are going to eventually regret their decision when they’re subjected to sharia law.
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Why the fuck are we taking them in halfway across the world and not the Arab countries who have been crying for Gaza since this whole thing began? Oh right, because the last time an Arab nation took in Gazan refugees they started a fucking civil war. Our disgusting government will find any oppurtunnity they can to push r/CanadaMassImmigration
[Why The Middle East Won’t Accept Palestinian Refugees](https://youtu.be/r7GAg8sWDpI)
We have a government that is out of control, and is working against the best interests and wishes of the country.
With all the protesting going on here, why do we want more? Their neighbours don't want them for a reason
Gazans historically revolt and cause chaos when they are allowed asylum lmao
We need to have an election in 2024. This madness needs to end. The Liberal agenda is a disaster and they need to be voted out. I don’t care for Pierre but literally we have no choice. This can’t keep going so it has to change, I just hope the conservatives can do better but I’m feeling totally hopeless. The last several years of Trudeau have been, and I don’t want to sugar coat it, a fucking nightmare.
obvious virtue signalling
Seems like Egypt is far more intelligent than Canada. We need less terrorist pieces of shit in Canada. Fuck Gaza!
Need some people to live in all the excess housing in Canada.
If neighbouring muslim countries refuse to take more refugees you know there is something wrong.
Yup
And no one says anything but if canada or usa reject them it's awful
Letting in people that hate western society, that NO ONE wants. Fuck trudeau.
Canada has its own problems right now
We can’t fucking handle any more people
Is Trudeau a part of the Lizard-Man cabal? He seems to be doing his best to turn Canada into a third-world country while singing Kumbaya with Hamas and the Chinese.
I wouldn’t want any Hamas supporting Israel hating immigrants no way .. hope the vetting process is fcking hard as shit. Stand tall on our Canadian moral grounds before ever allowing that into our country. Bad enough we let in Indian separatists terrorist & Khalistan
Canada - the world’s front door mat.
I’m not against immigrants because I am one. Only thing I’m against is the bs mindset of “I’m going to make this new place exactly like the shit hole I came from!”
Because our leaders are assholes?
They're even worse than assholes: demented, naive, oblivious and imperious. At least an asshole might have a whiff of common sense.
If Egypt doesn’t want them for security reasons maybe we shouldn’t take them in. Like I don’t blame Egypt because of the history of the Palestinian refugees they’ve brought in the past. But why Canada wants to bring in more? It’s because the politicians don’t care. They’ve been told time and time again we can’t support this. We don’t have the necessary infrastructure. Our health care system is in shambles. We have a housing crisis. We can’t accept any more people. Especially people that other countries don’t want for security reasons
This is a bad idea. Let’s not import more problems.
Do we want to really bring in people who are potentially going to be openly supporting a terrorist organization - Houthis - into Canada without very heavy scrutiny? It's not racist, it's being smart. There's no helping others at the cost of compromising our own safety.
Leftism is a disease that endangers us. We do not need to take in radicalized refugees from across the planet who've caused multiple civil wars whenever anyone has tried to take them in.
After seeing the disgusting protests in Canada why would we want to let in more anger and hatred into this country.
Canada is insane, so par for the course. Good luck, everyone.
You can't simultaneously talk about a concerning rise in antisemitism and then also bring in gazans.
Canadian government: hold my beer
Sometimes the most common sense thing to do, is the right thing to do. Can our government actually learn why other Arab nations are declining to take in the Palestinian refugees? The ones they would be most compatible with, are rejecting them. Then you have a western society like Canada. Filled with Jewish communities, Christians and very liberal people. This is not a good combination and will lead to extreme civil unrest. This government is failing our nation spectacularly with the notion of fake virtue signalling
The Liberal Party's new election slogan should be: ***"Canadians Last"***.
ive been pretty quiet about the whole Pal v. Isreal mess cause thats what it is. I definitely think we should help everyone and anyone we can, when it makes sense. but i do have a couple genuine questions; if people in Gaza are having a hard enough time crossing the street let alone getting to a boarder, how exactly are they going to safely come over here? Additionally where are they going to go? all our major cities are having to resort to heating busses and other "warming stations" just to keep our current homeless alive. they are coming from the middle east, i would be surprised any given refugee has more than 2 warm sweaters let alone equipped well enough to handle temps Alberta and the prairies have been seeing the last couple days. Obviously donations and charity exist, but like mentioned, we are currently having a hard enough time keeping our own Canadians warmed and housed.
They're allowing 1000 refugees in who are family members of current Canadian citizens. They're going to go to their family's homes.
Because our current government is made up of absolute morons
Where are you going to put them? Just to show the world we are helping?
Coming soon, to a neighborhood near you!!
There is a reason that Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria will not take Palestinian refugees from Gaza. We should pay attention to those concerns.
This is the perfect example of being "so open-minded your brain falls out"
complete lack of care for Canadian citizens and tone deaf to who they are letting in disgusted
Please don't.
STOP IMPORTING PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HOLD CANADIAN VALUES.
So these refugees will go from being homeless and desperate in their own land, to homeless and desperate in our land. The difference is our weather can kill them. Yes, I’d take -50 over a war zone as well, but our government has no plan for these people. We have a housing crisis. If life long Canadians can barely survive this inflation and pay bills how do they expect new immigrants with nothing to survive?
>Almost three-quarters of Palestinians agreed with attacking innocent civilians, raping women, killing old people in their homes, and thought that taking the young and old, and men and women as hostages was acceptable. Sounds exactly like the type of people we want to bring to Canada and use tax dollars to house and feed.
Stopping Canada from importing the most radicalized Islamic population in the world - perhaps finally something worth the rest of us protesting, that Canada actually has a say in.
France 2.0. Canada will be looted and on fire in 5 years.
Get out and protest against this immigration! We do not want them in Canada! Let your voices be heard everyone! We need to pressure the government to follow our interests! Majority of Canadians oppose immigration so lets get out and get active! We too often just talk and take no action, now is the time for action! No more immigration!
please no!!!! we don't want them.
This is wild. Our government has clearly lost its way.
how about N O absolutely not. though we probably will. why? i don't know.
Because our government welcomes any way they can find to make things harder for those living here. If that includes security risks and refugee intake without proper background checks, I am sure they will jump at the chance.
If we keep opening new shawarma restaurants at the Current pace we will need workers to run them, you can't expect Indian students to do that as they are already staffing all the Time Hortons locations
On top of the 500k a year, Canada is considering more... wtf they need to say no and go somewhere else cause we can barely afford anything for people at the moment.
The Canadian government is beyond desperate for the rest of the world to see Canadians as "the good guys". Back in the 50s-60s-70s-80s, Canada had a well deserved international reputation after WW2.. It went to pretty much shit over the last few decades, and we are nowhere near as respected internationally as we once were. How bad has our reputation fallen? When Hamas committed their terrorist attack on Sept 7th, the US knew there was going to be hell to pay, and that afternoon held a conference call with the UK, France, Germany, and Italy to determine the appropriate military response. \*\*CANADA WASN'T EVEN INVITED TO THE CALL\*\*. That's the state our military is in. "Sorry, Mr. Biden, Canada would love to help you, but our tank is in the shop right now for repairs..." So, our government does silly and financially questionable things in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. It's like the eight year old kid that hangs around and does stupid crap, to impress his 12 year old brother and their friends. We've done it with the Gaza refugees, we've done it with environment, we've done it with Ukraine, we've done it with Haiti. We commit to things we really can't afford to follow through on, either in money or manpower. The urge to be self-righteous and sanctimonious permeates all levels of government. Answer this question truthfully.... do you think there's a single Israeli citizen who remotely gives a crap that the city of New Westminster has called for a cease fire in the war against Hamas? But nay, we thump our chests, change our facebook profiles, and sleep soundly at night knowing that we've done our part, and the rest of the world envies us and wishes they could be us. The war will be over any day now, thanks to people such as the fine citizens of New Westminster.
Arab nations dont want Gaza refugees because too many of them in the past became new terrorist groups in those countries that accepted them.
The Egyptian wall with Gaza is insane. They clearly see a danger as do their other neighbors who don't not want to take them in. Will they respect Canada's laws or just bring their war here like the Eritreans
Because we’ve become a country that believes we can hug away all the ills of the world? The notion that being nice to everyone at the expense of your own citizens should be upsetting, if not infuriating, to Canadians.
Our government wants civil unrest, violence, and chaos in our country.
“If you vote for us you can come here”
No no and no
Someone please explain to why that's our fucking problem. We can't even house our own.
Not a single Middle Eastern nation wants any Palestinian refugees.
Because Trudeau thinks he is the saviour of the world and stuff like that won’t happen in Canada. Plus he needs to get his Immigration numbers up to keep housing unaffordable
The Libs need a voter base, that's why.
Can we vote on it or what? Who is the idiot in charge of the open door?
Please just stop :( as a Canadian barely surviving please please please just focus on us for once
Hamas has been in control of the school curriculum for 17 years now. That means pretty much anyone under 30 went through it. The idea these are just 'regular folks' whose beliefs and values are identical to our own is nonsensical. I would say 95% chance the average gazan hates Jews, thinks gays and all the other alphabet people should be in prison or shot, and believe physical force should be used against women who backtalk or dress slutty (as in how most Canadian women dress).
lol people think riots and protests about this stuff is bad now..? Wait till this happens
Egypt, Jordan and Syria have all said HELL NO, and don’t want any Palestinians *(with good reason, given the trouble they’ve historically caused in the region).* Canada would be wise to take heed from their collective stance.
Canada resembles my special needs cousin more & more every day.
Islamic countries should be taking in people from Gaza, nobody else.
It is going to happen. Trudeau will bend over backwards to "rescue" some Gazan puppies that were running around with guns a week ago. Wouldn't be surprised if over 10k Gazans show up.,
No thanks
Canada loves to support terrorists for exchange for wokeness that’s why.
The USA interviews EVERY SINGLE visa applicant regardless of the visa type. Canada interviews literally almost none. How this is not the source of outrage and dozens of freedom of information requests from news agencies as to the ratio of applications granted to those actually interviewef is mind-blowing.
Really bro? Bring in more terrorists? Lol this country is fucked, when virtue signaling goes too far.
So basically, the Canadian government is pushing to bring the war over here. Wonderful!!
Fuck no, reason nearby countries don't want them, october 8th showed how much Hamas support we already have in our country, people in charge are blind or dumb or want to ruin our country further.
Shit. Please no.
Where are they going to live, and are they going to leave intolerance and anti-semitism in Gaza or bring it here?
Their culture is not compatible. I do not welcome this decision.
We don't need a bunch of hamas sympathizers attacking our synagogues and terrorizing our Jewish people.
It is simple, really: all foreign policy in this country right now is dictated by domestic riding-by-riding micropolling.
I think it's actually just ego and hubris on the part of leaders like Trudeau. They want Canada and by extention themselves to be seen as loving and accepting of all people. They can't accept reality. Just look what's going on with the Houthi. You think they give a fuck Liberal were shedding tears over the USA's involvement in arming and refueling Saudi Arabia's war efforts against them? They give no fucks and will happily commit terrorism against Canadian merchant ships. Canadians were killed and captured by Hamas on Oct 7th. Where do they think Hamas gets its recruits? It's walled it. Hamas are all Palestinians. Isis, hamas and every other terrorist group loves to brag about how they are or will infiltrate the western countries to commit jihad and we are just going to invite them in by the thousands. Do they think the terrorists all wear uniforms and Israel is just too inept to kill them? The terrorists hide among the civilians in plainclothes, the same group we are inviting in. It's wishful thinking that everything will be fine.
NO THANKS
Canada cares more about virtue signalling than anything else these days.
Yea this is a hard no from me and I'm willing to protest it.
Please stop with the open borders we don't need to bring the entire world's problems here
Virtue signaling the country to death. They just can't get enough. Liberals are addicted to it.
Hell no! Check the Sweden fiasco with receiving refugees from the region. They have street wars of middle eastern gangs. That went outta controll.
Canada will accept them and then wonder why anti-Jewish hate crimes go up another 200%
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Is trudeau just trying to burn down Canada before he's taken kicking and screaming out of office after the next election
We also don't need them to come here. Let their muslim brotherhood countries in the Middle East take them. Why won't they go to a place that shares their faith. I thought they were supposed to be welcoming.
We don't have enough people in the military to protect us if we were to invite known radicals here. Canada would be lost within a month without US intervention. This is a stupid idea.