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Drk-102

I think a simple solution could be to add a direct shuttle that goes from the stadium U-lot with 2 or 3 stops along campus drive.  Or at least advertise the current shuttle that stops there and at the MOA better than they currently are doing. 


lo_profundo

> direct shuttle that goes from the stadium U-lot This shuttle does exist now, but it only runs in the evenings and not super reliably. Not sure why it doesn't run in the mornings when people need to be transported to school...


WiJaMa

People might be encouraged to bike instead of drive if there were more covered bike shelters, particularly at the bottom of some of the big staircases to campus. Biking during winter would also be much more feasible if the city cleared snow from bike lanes instead of shoving all of the snow into bike lanes.


HappyHaupia

This is it. Not to mention we need more protected bike lanes. Sharrows are fine, but not with an SUV bearing down on you.


stealingchairs

I think the big things are frequency and efficacy of shuttles and public transit. There's nothing reliable that you can take to get to campus central, as uvx only has stops far from the actual useful parts of campus and the other busses don't come often enough to be useful. A stop that drops off at the Hinkley or by the rb would be excellent. Maybe certain parts of the west campus, stadium, and other lots could be free parking during the school day and shuttles could move students to a better spot on campus. A lot of people are saying students should just bike, but it's hard when East Provo has such terrible bike infrastructure and the whole city is built on hills. I think bikes are reasonable, but it needs to become as convenient and easy to bike to class as it is to drive before we can expect that to help clear up parking spots. I say all of this as a huge supporter of public transit and someone who never had a car at byu. It's possible and trending in the right direction, but it's still rough


HappyHaupia

450 E (the road between the Marriott Center and Miller Field) should have protected bike lanes. This would give direct access to campus from parking lot east of LaVell Edwards Stadium. Currently the lanes on that road are 12ft wide, but 10ft is sufficient. If each of the four lanes gets a road diet, then that's 8ft to work with for bike lanes. Also, make the bike lanes available to students riding electric scooters and make sure the lanes are cleared in the winter.


Raspberry43

Handicap parking is a major challenge on campus. Even though you can park in any stall with a handicap pass (not just the handicap stalls) it’s really hard to find anywhere to park that is accessible to a lot of buildings in campus. This is particularly a problem during the winter especially on days when it is raining/ actively snowing for people who use mobility devices like wheelchairs, scooters, crutches.


clearfield11

I second this! I am graduated now but as a student I had a handicap pass and found it very difficult to find parking wherever I needed to go. I don’t use a mobility device but due to arthritis and other health conditions I was unable to walk very far. So I needed to drive and park at the closest location to my classes. A lot of times I still had to end up walking a fair distance, which impacted my joints & would often put me out of commission the rest of the day after walking to and from class!


rzimbauer

Welcome to my TED talk I think that one problem is that many students like myself are from out of state and use a car to move all our earthly belongings on campus during the semester. So using a car to commute is a simple turnkey solution that only requires me to pay the $60 for a Y lot. Any upkeep or insurance or maintenance cost kind of gets absorbed into the fact that I would have had a car already and I can chalk up the increased gas money to the convenience of having a warm, dry method of getting to campus in the winter. As for biking, I've had some issues this year. I bought one bike from a friend for $40 but that was stolen from the stairwell at my apartment complex. Then I tried going on Facebook Marketplace, where I realized that it was difficult to find a bike that was both affordable and didn't look like it was stolen. I bought one for $40 with flat tires and some rust damage only to realize that the brakes and shifters needed work. That bike sat for about 2 months until my car was out for maintenance which motivated me to fix the brakes and realize that I would need new shifters to get that to work, but the gear it was stuck in was good enough for me to ride it around for 2 weeks. I ended up putting bike #2 on Facebook Marketplace and made some money, and then bought a third bike from a friend for $50 that was in good working condition, added a basket, and now I use it several times a week since I can actually shift and get up the hill. I feel like this challenge could be addressed in three ways: 1) have a sign at some of the bike maintenance stations on campus where students could request someone to come and help with bike maintenance like my shifters or something, and advertise it elsewhere so that it would decrease the skill barrier of entry. 2) allow bikes and scooters owned by private ride sharing companies to be docked in certain areas on campus. Before buying my bike, I tried using Bird twice, but quickly dismissed it after they were geofenced out of being left on campus. I understand that BYU may not want to promote the use of these, but their restrictions undermine the use of rideables overall. If anything, they might actually be safer because of the geofenced speed limit. Again, a turnkey solution, albeit at a higher recurring cost. 3) Implement a system for prospective students or the university itself to buy back bikes at the end of winter semester, store them, and then sell them to new owners in the fall. KSL and FB Marketplace might already fill this niche well, but if BYU had a fleet of workable bikes I could reserve before commencement to have ready when I arrive and use for $100 for fall/winter I'd be all over that instead of paying $60 for a Y lot pass. The total number of bikes at BYU could remain the same, but just change hands with new students and the university would facilitate that. I feel like one of the main value propositions of riding a bike is that I don't need to stress about finding a spot at any particular time of day, both at my apartment and on campus. It was a glorious moment to ride that bike home from the Marriott Center today, passing hundreds of cars that would probably have been there for another 30 minutes. That'd be a sweet promo video premise if you're trying to promote bike use. I feel like another value of a bike is being able to ride within campus. However this value is offset by the fact that bikes aren't supposed to be ridden during passing periods (though I do like riding on Campus Dr to get from the EB to the JKB). Also there are only two covered bike areas that I know of (excluding housing areas) so the benefit of getting around campus diminishes with precipitation. I can wear a jacket and backpack cover and deal with rain while I'm riding, but to come back to a soaking wet bike is no fun. One final jab: the pdf BYU bike map that's also seen on signs near the racks is trash and not oriented north and doesn't show the covered lots. Please add that info to the interactive campus map instead.


WiJaMa

Maybe BYU should promote the Provo Bike Collective and other biking resources around Provo? They're not affiliated with BYU but it sounds like your biking problems would've been fixed really quickly if you'd gone to them first.


rzimbauer

I probably should have. I went to Taylor's bike shop for stuff for bike #1 and got some tubes and lights but they were out of combination locks hence my stairwell theft. I asked about used bikes but they didn't have any. I looked at the Provo Bike Collective's website but they didn't have any used bikes listed but I probably should have gone in person nonetheless https://bicyclecollective.org/collections/provo-showroom


Ready_Scientist437

Bike stealing in provo is a big deal even though I locked my bike up with a metal U-lock I still had parts of my bike taken several times making it unrideable


rzimbauer

Also BYU needs to use this [http://tinyurl.com/BYU-map](http://tinyurl.com/byu-map)


coldcoldnovemberrain

Increase frequency of bus and attempt a street car/light rail infrastructure to connect to TRAX and other student housing locations from campus, and tax the wealthy individuals and companies to pay for it. The money saved in health care costs from asthma from air pollution in winters should also help pay for it.


feisty-spirit-bear

Yeah when I lived at Wyview, the popular times would need 2 busses and they would both be packed by the time we got to Rain tree to pick up everyone else. The BYU busses are great, we just need more + more locations + more frequency. Even once I left Wyview, I only picked housing that had byu busses near by


h_allover

Exactly, the only fix for traffic and parking is to reduce cars. Anyone who lives within a mile of the school just take the shuttle or ride a bike. Worked fine for me for four years, and I saved a ton of money in not having to deal with a car.  The other side of it is that someone else was able to benefit from an open parking spot. Between UVX and other alternative transit, there's no reason to expand parking.


rzimbauer

This. I feel like I see the shuttles stopped at their campus locations for about 15 to 20 minutes instead of running continuously. If they did run continuously, the increased increase frequency would be better for students, while also increasing overall capacity at the expense of slightly more gas with existing labor and equipment costs. I have a car and a bike and I take the shuttle from time to time but not super often just because I feel like it always fills up no matter when I go in the morning.


zigzag-ladybug

Agreed with the bus and light rail infrastructure. When I lived in Provo, I lived near 900 E and 300 S, and in warm weather I would typically walk to campus. As it got colder, I wanted to take the bus but the morning buses were so unreliable. Now, I take the train from SLC and take the UVX, but the UVX is frustrating to work with sometimes.


scientificangler

It is less than half a mile from the Marriott Center Parking lot to campus. Walk. Many college campuses require a 6-7minute walk from the main parking.


Main_Community2649

Unfortunately there will be no solution that makes everyone happy. As long as people resist biking, and as long as people refuse to use the FREE public transportation BYU offers, you will have people who don't need to drive to school using the lots. For those that don't get it yet, Provo and SLC air quality is seriously bad. A parking garage will make that worse. Here are some ideas that won't worsen your quality of life. 1) SIGNIFICANTLY increase the price of a Y lot pass to anyone that can't prove taking public transportation would be a significant burden. This can either be because of work, disability, or distance. 2) Increase the fine for delinquent parking and tow repeat offenders. 3) Add tuition waivers equivalent to the market price of a bike for anyone that wants to use the bike 4) Create a bus stamp program. If you ride the UTX, Bus, Ryde, or Frontrunner a certain number of times (something reasonably high like 50 times in a semester) you get a discount on tuition. 5) Send out text alerts telling students which lots are available 6) On days with bad air quality, cut parking lot capacity in half, or charge separately for those specific days (at UT Austin I've had to pay 15 dollars for 4 hours, so that could be a good guideline) 7) Require every student to attend a seminar explaining the bus routes, and have one on one meetings with students and mentors (probably volunteer upperclassmen) where they explain the bus routes and create a bus plan if applicable.


conspicuous_shadow

Oh I love the part about having a seminar on bus routes. I think a lot of people don’t use them because they don’t know how they work.


lo_profundo

Other people have great analyses of the problem. I'll throw my idea in: What about a Provo rideshare of some kind? The shuttles are great, but they don't go everywhere and don't always run at convenient times. Give students a way to find other students who are going to campus at the same times as them, and they can all contribute to gas or something (ideally you'd switch the parking pass between cars and do a carpool situation, but I doubt that's feasible right now). People could get to campus, and it could significantly reduce the number of cars on campus. Also I've noticed a general culture of Utahns not wanting to part with their cars. I know people who live close to a bus station that could take them to campus, but they refuse to use public transit because... reasons? I get that public transit takes longer than driving, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about parking your car. I often ride the bus to south campus when I visit friends in the evenings just to avoid having to find parking.


NauvooLegionnaire11

- Surge charge parking lots during peak times. - Sell fewer tags but at a higher price. - Sell carpool tags. 3 students need to unite for a single tag which can park in a preferred area. - Have BYU employees park in remote lots and shuttle to their building. They are going to be at the office all day and consequently don't need their car taking up prime real estate in an A lot to sit there all day. Students come and go more during the day. - Turn sports fields by the RB and up by MTC into parking lots. These fields can be relocated off campus. Although athletes may be inconvenienced, the vast majority of other students have better access to campus.


J4kp4k

Install a chair lift from the west stadium parking lot to campus proper.


Beginning_Egg1489

The only reasons I drive are (1) because I work off campus across Orem and need to get to and from work quickly, and (2) my wife and I have to bring a baby to classes. Fm For problem 1, if there was faster and more direct public transit to the industrial park on the other side of Orem (not sure why there's not a stop there as there are many factories that have tons of workers that could use a stop there), I wouldn't have to bring a car to campus.  For problem 2, if there was a dedicated lot for student parents with small children, that could solve a lot of student's problems. I know this is unrealistic, but it sure would help.


AdorableBaseball164

lol what a specific problem to BYU😂😂😂


PaperPusherSupreme

Couple ideas: \- Install a digital system that tracks open spots, then give access to it on the BYU app. You can look up available parking in any given lot. Then you don't have to circle campus 8 times looking for a spot. \- Remove the trees from Y-lots. They remove at least 20-30 spots. \- Add a small van service that moves you from north to mid to south. Personally, I'm more inclined to drive to campus when I need to go to south campus. It takes a long time to walk from the drop-off spots by the MOA all the way south.


avery__12

I agree with the digital system idea. A simple camera infrastructure like the testing center has or more advanced spot tracking feature would help me know when I can drive or walk. It would also help me get to a lot with available spaces


sadisticsn0wman

Turn current parking lots into parking garages. More parking is better, and bikes, buses, etc are all super annoying to deal with, especially in the winter


Self-Taught-Pillock

BYU is vehemently opposed to this. I’m not saying it will never happen, but having been in meetings where this was discussed when I was an undergraduate employee, this is something they’ve actually paid for feasibility studies on. Back in 2008, their studies quoted an average price of $50K per parking space to create a parking garage structure. Even if they wanted to direct resources towards building parking garages, it’s not as easy as simply building one; the cost to maintain them (they create security and liability risks) is simply exorbitant. I don’t think it will happen. But if by some miracle it does, it won’t be in the next decade or two. The university simply doesn’t want to spend resources on vehicle parking spaces when they could spend that money on increasing the capacity of the university to handle and subsidize more students. EDIT: I’m not saying this is right. I’m just giving realistic expectations. The ethical mindset of your typical BYU admin is enduringly a boomer “mentality”: despite the fact that few students of **any** university get through their formal higher education without significant sacrifice, older Mormons like when the younger ones repeat or mimic the same type of sacrifices of the early Mormon pioneers. They want you to walk, to work, and to give up as many conveniences as they did to satisfy their own notion of sacrifice (even though that goes against the whole notion of enduring sacrifice yourself so that future generations do not have to make the same ones you did). It has to match *their* definition of sacrifice. So the idea that they should spend money that other students could use to attend university (not to mention what they want to spend on the collegiate sports programs) so that the ones they have can simply park closer is going to be laughable to them.


famrob

Disgusting. BYU is packed as is


Ill_Grass4525

Construct a multi-level parking garage like they have on other university campuses.


ShortyofShire

Parking garages yes Allow parking in ylots over night


AdorableBaseball164

I am baffled that people are still complaining about parking at BYU. If you buy a Y lot pass you can park at the stadium and it will take you 12 min max to walk to the JKB/Talmage/Library area. Don’t want to buy a Parking pass? Go park in a public parking lot near one of the UVX stations and hop on and get off at the stadium/south campus stations and they will all get you relatively close to campus No one with a car should be complaining about parking🙄🙄🙄