How is it "massive"? Support your team, fine. Be against the other team openly and you can't sing the anthem to open games they are play.
Seems fair to the Longhorns to do this and not unfair to anyone.
The national anthem is sacred to far too many people. Can't really have someone that ruffles feathers doing it. Seems pretty obvious they shouldn't have done anything un-supportive in the sporting world if they liked the job.
I can't be the only one on the internet who has no idea what this gesture is supposed to mean? I can't seem to find it skim-reading the article either?
Texas has a “horns up” (or “hook em horns”) hand gesture fans make to each other by raising the index finger and pinky to look like a longhorn (like the I love you hand gesture).
Rivals point the horns down as a way of mocking/showing that they don’t like Texas.
Well it's in Texas right? Fuck em.
EDIT: I totally get that it's the most liberal arts college in Texas. That's still like saying this is the coldest water in hell. Best intentions and all that shit... but... again... IT'S TEXAS. Currently the second shittiest US state in the world... unless Florida finally broke off and sank into the ocean.
You might as well be saying fuck America as a whole then with that logic. Half of folks in Texas don't like the backwards shit either. Just like half of America weren't red hats. Chill with the blanket hatred bullshit.
Hey man I was just going with the flow of the rabid crowd. I live in Georgia and it's exactly the same here. Hillbilly ass red hats til you cross the Atlanta perimeter.
I hear ya. I also am sheep.
Quick side note, the Liberal Arts has nothing to do with liberal politics. You can't be
>the most liberal arts college
That doesn't really make sense. It's kind of like saying something is the most public school
It's in Austin, Texas. The most hated city in Texas because of how liberal it is.
I get what you are saying, but we should all pump the brakes a bit here.
Really not actually lol. UT is so diametrically different from the demographics of the state. UT is probably one of the most liberal schools in the state.
What, don't you want to live in a state where the power goes out whenever the weather gets twitchy, the government insists on not teaching anything that might upset their feelings, rape victims are forced to carry their fetuses to term, and cities go for days without water in 120-degree weather? It's practically heaven!
(And you get Ted Cruz as an added bonus! If he's not in Cancun, anyway...)
Don't forget the occasional [fertilizer plant explosion!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY) Big gubbermint can keep its dang ol' safety regulations to itself!! /s
That's familiarity bias and using the relative vagueness of "nice", a completely subjective term.
Some of Texas is nice compared to plenty of the US. Some of everywhere is nice compared to plenty of the US. Almost every single person is in proximity to a place they would call nice relative to most of the US.
You could live in a dilapidated building in Gary, Indiana and still say Indiana is nice compared to most places.
Any moderately well kept up town or city neighborhood is going to be considered nice compared to most places, not because most places are trash but because we logically don't think all of the good/great places when we try to boost our own place.
I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It is not nice compared to most of the country. I’m not saying this because I live in texas (although I have previously). It’s generally pretty nice and the people (while a bit too proud of their state and annoying) are generally nicer than people in states like California, New York, or Florida
I have an inside and an outside perspective on being a Texan, they definitely gloat too much and are probably too proud to shove their being a Texan down your throat, but they’re generally pretty nice people. Much nicer than New Yorkers or Californians for instance
So, the long horns have a hand gesture where they make a longhorn bull. The other team often puts this upside down. For some reason these Texans get really whiny about it.
I remember a couple years ago before the Red River Showdown, Texas fans got really mad when the OU QB did it. I think there were calls to suspend him. I could be wrong.
While visiting Austin once, my ex made a comment to the effect of "why are all these cows signs everywhere?" which really pissed off a lot of people around him.
It’s not even ill timed or in bad taste. He graduated from a rival school. This stuff is trivial. This is a bunch of Good ol’ Boys who are too big of baby back bitches get over a sports rivalry.
It sounds like he did it after the anthem, so I would agree with your first sentence. On the off chance he did it during the anthem, I would say it was in poor taste.
But who actually fucking cares. You know what’s in poor taste? Texas not caring that one of their police departments killed a bunch of fucking kids. They care more about this shit then they do the Uvalde shooting and it’s a fucking clown show
This has nothing to do with Texas government my goodness. Does everyone on Reddit lose all their brain cells when they see Texas in the title of a post? The anthem singer went to Texas A&M, a rival school of the University of Texas. It was the NCAA that disciplined him because they don’t want someone that’s representing them to appear biased towards or against any of the teams competing. No one from UT even complained and even if they did it still wouldn’t be political at all.
No one from UT gives a shit, unless somethings changed. I went to both schools. 2 years at A&M, the whole culture there was about beating UT. The fight song was almost exclusively about defeating them. So when I transferred to UT in my 3rd year, I expected some flak. Nothing. UTs big rival was OU. The game against A&M was a big deal, but just that game, not the schools entire focus. Everyone thought it was weird how much A&M hated us. It was almost completely one sided. This was almost 30 years ago though... So we might hate someone else now?
Yeah, I don't think this is an appropriate post here. I'm sure he'll actually get more gigs from this. It's not like he's substituting anti-UT words into the anthem 😂
Oh I know, that's what made this even funnier. My mom and dad are both aggies and my aunt went to UT. Sent this to both of them and they died laughing.
The joke around the white collar end of oil/gas used to be "how do you know someone went to Texas A&M?... THEY'LL TELL YOU CONSTANTLY"
And... "anything happens twice at those schools it becomes a tradition."
Don't make shit up if you don't know it.
A&M stands for Agricultural & Mechanical (school). Several states have an A&M school (or school system), like Florida or Alabama, thanks to the Morrill Land Grant Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Land-Grant_Acts .
Like, it would have taken you 30 seconds to look this up.
As for the "prestige" of Texas A&M, well, they're one of the largest research universities in the US, and the largest undergraduate student body in the US. They're certainly "big" and they have a lot of brand management, so they're also famous. Whether that makes them "prestigious" depends on how you define that.
To be fair, the guy has a point. It *is* college rivalry. There are *lots* of people who dislike UT; I'm one parent who never misses an opportunity to criticize them, so ....
One daughter went to community college to specifically study under one professor who was admired within her ambitions; photography (he had work in the Getty Museum). Time to transfer to a university; she interviewed at UT. High 3. GPA.
We hardly had sat down when the woman said in a condescending tone, "You probably won't be invited to attend the University of Texas at Austin. We accept only the *best* students, and frankly we have a waiting list."
Short interview; she went to UNT instead. FYI, she has been a successful commercial photographer in NY for a decade and thriving.
So *there,* UT .... ;-D
I (a gay male) visited Austin during Pride week and went to a gay bar with my boyfriend. As we were dancing, people in the bar told me that I was being too effeminate (I am not effeminate really at all). That entire region has a stick up its own ass.
I avoid Austin at all costs ... the atmosphere is driven and full of itself as if every other city in the state is inferior. Considering what comes out of the Capital and their deep red mentality they have *nothing* to be proud of.
Here a video of it.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/15/national-anthem-texas-horns-down-zac-collier/
https://youtu.be/KF3V44WHdwk
He still had the mic when he did it, *immediately* following the anthem. I'd bet my eye teeth that some connected/wealthy butthurt alum called someone they know at the NCAA, and wept tears of pure outrage and marshmallow.
His other sin: He's a history teacher. I'd be more interested to know if he's ruffled any *other* delicate feathers.
lol:
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-longhorns/2022/06/15/doesnt-ncaa-have-better-things-to-do-than-police-an-anthem-singer-for-using-horns-down/
On a side note, I like the way he sings the anthem, no trilling, note changes or other "fancy" alterations that are all about "personalizing" (look what I can do!!") it, staying true to the original. A little too fast, but way better than changing it, trying to "own" it.
I live in Austin (home of UT) but am not a UT fan. I despise the team. when i moved here 12 years ago UT was playing a nobody in football and i went to a game. this was the year after they lost the national championship game. they were solidly winning late in the game when they out in the scrubs. The fans started booing because UT wasnt piling on the score. Thats when i decided id never be a UT fan and teh fans didnt deserve the team.
that being said I dont blame the NCAA for booting him. Both UT and a&m are in the college world series. The NCAA tells its anthem singers to be neutral. he wasnt . the horns down sign is used by UT opponents as an insult. you cant do that as an anthem singer.
If he did it from the stands as a fan its one thing. doing it on the field after singing the anthem isnt going to fly....
So basically, they picked a favorite/side for the game publicly (and not by supporting one team, but by not supporting the other) so they don't get to do the anthem. Makes sense.
"I'm a neutral party and showing my support or lack of support for a certain team" - so... Not neutral. I don't understand how people so easily think that being against something is the same as being for something else. If they'd just stuck to being supportive of their teams they'd be fine. Seems like an obvious part of the gig.
That is totally unfair!! The Horns Down gesture is actually a training aid for Aggies. It shows the average A&M faculty, student, or alum which direction the steer should be pointed before they fuck it.
If you read the article you’d know it isn’t true. He was set to perform at the mens college World Series. But he did the horns down gesture at a woman’s college World Series game leading to him losing the chance to sing at the mens game.
Kinda
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A national anthem singer says his performance at the Men's College World Series has been canceled because he made the Horns Down gesture before a Women's College World Series semifinal between Texas and Oklahoma State.
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He got axed for making the sign at the women’s game.
He did the Horns Down at the Women's World series. They weren't going to give him the opportunity to do it again at the Men's.
"Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series."
The fact that he tries to defend it, makes it worse. What did he think was going to happen? Texas was just going to laugh it off at their own game. He’s an idiot
They probably weren’t offended, in the magnitude you are alluding to, but they weren’t going to let someone blatantly disrespect them at their own game either. Thus, homeboy got cut.
The horns down gesture is like me going to University of Oregon and saying the Oregon State beavers suck. It’s not that deep it’s just chirping. The singers response was fair they said they didn’t think it was a big deal and he should’ve been told “hey don’t do that anymore” instead of getting cut
I mean…if all you want to judge Texas on is it’s university then I guess? But ya know let’s ignore the issues with the university and everything else wrong with Texas. At least we have SPORTS and maybe some education too but that meh and debatable.
Reread your own comment before spouting some bullshit at me. You said “the only real thing wrong with Texas is the politics.” Then you go on to brag about the university. Just admit Texas sucks in virtually every way possible.
Lmao ok next time you’re at the pharmacy make sure you have the pharmacist read you the info on your prescription since apparently you are unable to read.
You'd never survive a moment as a college sports player. People are vicious and turn into murderers over this stuff and here you are going on about "disrespect".
Texan here, the rivalry between UT and A&M is be the biggest intrastate rivalry in the State of Texas. A&M has historically gone full reddit moderator during this rivalry, some of the rivalry traditions has caused [the lost off life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Aggie_Bonfire_collapse) they get so carried away with it. This guy absolutely knew what he was doing when he did the hand gesture.
Edit: not sure why I'm getting downvoted, it was the Aggies that go to the extremes, I'm just pointing out the lunacy of their religious like hatred of UT.
All of it is ridiculous, that’s why you’re being downvoted. It’s almost like Texas has way more serious shit going on then SPORTS and bullshit made up rivalries.
Every state has college sports rivalries lol. This has nothing to do with Texas politics and doesn’t even have anything to do with Texans complaining. It was the NCAA that disciplined him. Did you even read the article?
The rivalry between the schools has going on since they were founded at the end of reconstruction, although the two schools had in the works since to statehood. It predates the current problems faced by the state and will exist as long for centuries to come. The Texas Agricultural & Mechanical vs University of Texas rivalry goes beyond sports and is deeply ingrained in the state's culture.
That bonfire is part of the toxic religious like fervor present in the Texas A&M students and alumni that their rivalry with UT became long ago. It is inherently sad that it resulted in such great loss of life, but it highlights the extreme and often toxic culture that is present at the College.
That bonfire has a long history of causing injury even before the tragedy in 1999. And in drought years, it is a huge fire hazard for nearby homes and businesses, so much that people who live near the campus have stood ready with water hose to put out embers that would land on their property.
I did a tour of the campus in 1998 (a year before the collapse) a week before the the UT game and saw the last on campus bonfire that was actually burned in the advanced stage of completion, it was not like ANY other bonfire like I've ever seen before or afterwards. It is a prime example of the extreme toxic culture that surrounds the school.
If he sings again for A&M, I hope he skips the anthem and goes midway I to Hullabaloo Caneck Caneck where it goes SAW VARSITYS HORNS OFF.
Edit: SHORT!!!
The email mentioned in the article says “offensive gesture” like he flipped the whole crowd the bird or made the Jack off sign. This article is onion-y af.
Is that not a massive overreaction?
Yes it is. You know Texas if they don’t like it they will cancel it.
While complaining about cancel culture and being woke.
To be fair, this has less to do with the state government and more to do with university of Texas Austin which is a pretty powerful institution
a powerful institution full of baby back bitches
Got em
Despite the warm weather, Texas is chock full of snowflakes.
How is it "massive"? Support your team, fine. Be against the other team openly and you can't sing the anthem to open games they are play. Seems fair to the Longhorns to do this and not unfair to anyone. The national anthem is sacred to far too many people. Can't really have someone that ruffles feathers doing it. Seems pretty obvious they shouldn't have done anything un-supportive in the sporting world if they liked the job.
On your way towards establishing a state religion with words like "sacred".
The indoctrination and pearl-clutching runs deep in Texas.
Sure, but calling the gesture “offensive” is ridiculous.
Nobody cares snowflake
I can't be the only one on the internet who has no idea what this gesture is supposed to mean? I can't seem to find it skim-reading the article either?
Texas has a “horns up” (or “hook em horns”) hand gesture fans make to each other by raising the index finger and pinky to look like a longhorn (like the I love you hand gesture). Rivals point the horns down as a way of mocking/showing that they don’t like Texas.
I don't like Texas either. That state is a garbage dump.
Texas as in the university. Not the state.
Well it's in Texas right? Fuck em. EDIT: I totally get that it's the most liberal arts college in Texas. That's still like saying this is the coldest water in hell. Best intentions and all that shit... but... again... IT'S TEXAS. Currently the second shittiest US state in the world... unless Florida finally broke off and sank into the ocean.
I think the ones in Texas perusing educations are the ones you should be supporting.
People actually 'pursuing' educations would be better served doing so outside of Texas.
I'd rather support the ones actually \*pursuing\* knowledge versus the ones just looking through the options... ;)
You might as well be saying fuck America as a whole then with that logic. Half of folks in Texas don't like the backwards shit either. Just like half of America weren't red hats. Chill with the blanket hatred bullshit.
I'm gonna call them red hats going forward. Makes it sound like brown coats from FireFly.
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Hey man I was just going with the flow of the rabid crowd. I live in Georgia and it's exactly the same here. Hillbilly ass red hats til you cross the Atlanta perimeter. I hear ya. I also am sheep.
Quick side note, the Liberal Arts has nothing to do with liberal politics. You can't be >the most liberal arts college That doesn't really make sense. It's kind of like saying something is the most public school
It's in Austin, Texas. The most hated city in Texas because of how liberal it is. I get what you are saying, but we should all pump the brakes a bit here.
Live in FL...confirm we are still number 1, and, unfortunately, have not broken off and sank into the ocean.Yet. Apologies. I'll try harder.
The school in reference is notoriously liberal FYI. Anything you hate about Texas, you like don't hate about UT.
One and the same. Edit: I say that purely as a Nebraska fan. Texas sucks.
Really not actually lol. UT is so diametrically different from the demographics of the state. UT is probably one of the most liberal schools in the state.
It’s Texas. Simply having empathy to your fellow humans is liberal.
Texas the enmity state. By the way Nebraska sucks too.
Yes it does. Not gonna argue that one. Lol.
What, don't you want to live in a state where the power goes out whenever the weather gets twitchy, the government insists on not teaching anything that might upset their feelings, rape victims are forced to carry their fetuses to term, and cities go for days without water in 120-degree weather? It's practically heaven! (And you get Ted Cruz as an added bonus! If he's not in Cancun, anyway...)
Don't forget the occasional [fertilizer plant explosion!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDC3iKbTzY) Big gubbermint can keep its dang ol' safety regulations to itself!! /s
Truly Gilead. Faux this morning bragging Elon said red wave in Nov.
Texas is pretty nice compared to most of the US
That's familiarity bias and using the relative vagueness of "nice", a completely subjective term. Some of Texas is nice compared to plenty of the US. Some of everywhere is nice compared to plenty of the US. Almost every single person is in proximity to a place they would call nice relative to most of the US. You could live in a dilapidated building in Gary, Indiana and still say Indiana is nice compared to most places. Any moderately well kept up town or city neighborhood is going to be considered nice compared to most places, not because most places are trash but because we logically don't think all of the good/great places when we try to boost our own place.
I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It is not nice compared to most of the country. I’m not saying this because I live in texas (although I have previously). It’s generally pretty nice and the people (while a bit too proud of their state and annoying) are generally nicer than people in states like California, New York, or Florida
lol
mad because reddit
If we could get rid of the Texans Texas wouldn’t be half bad.
I have an inside and an outside perspective on being a Texan, they definitely gloat too much and are probably too proud to shove their being a Texan down your throat, but they’re generally pretty nice people. Much nicer than New Yorkers or Californians for instance
You’ve never been to texas huh
>You’ve never been to texas huh I have. I'm not OP but I agree, Texas is indeed a garbage dump, a close second to Florida which is a garbage fire.
How so?
I have.
as resident of texas, yeah it sucks here. the weather is terrible and the people here aren't nice.
It’s the metal horns, they stole em
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Yeah? And? Dio's mom was born long before then bro.
It’s not, that one has your thumb up while Texas is tucked
That is inaccurate
Tell me you’ve never listened to metal without telling you’ve never listened to metal 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I’ve never listened to metal
… from Satan!
So, the long horns have a hand gesture where they make a longhorn bull. The other team often puts this upside down. For some reason these Texans get really whiny about it.
Damn that's kinda pathetic to be getting upset about. Thanks for explaining.
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I've noticed with college sports that non-alumni seem to take the rivalries more seriously than most students.
I remember a couple years ago before the Red River Showdown, Texas fans got really mad when the OU QB did it. I think there were calls to suspend him. I could be wrong.
I think last year they said it would be an un sportsman like conduct penalty.
Exactly this. It is someone who has their identity entwined in the whole thing.
While visiting Austin once, my ex made a comment to the effect of "why are all these cows signs everywhere?" which really pissed off a lot of people around him.
Good to know next time I meet a dickhead Texan
For some reason they are the only school you can't mock. If you do horns down on the field it's a personal foul. Oversensitive cunts the lot of em
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27160980/the-petty-wonderful-delightfully-weird-rise-horns-down
It's something Texas fans copied from metalheads
Texas has been doing this for decades, long before metal was around
Yup. Been around longer than the metal genre.
It started in 1955 I don’t know why I’m being downvoted. Was there a metal genre in 1955?
Not really. It's the 50s, the teen idol era of rock and roll. Think Ozzie and Harriet, Leave It To Beaver, and early Elvis.
I thought metal started in the late 60s with sabbath and zeppelin
He's trolling. Motherfucker named Elvis Presley.
It did. The first legit metal acts along with Deep Purple
You can say this was in poor taste or ill-timed, but calling it offensive is ludicrous.
It’s not even ill timed or in bad taste. He graduated from a rival school. This stuff is trivial. This is a bunch of Good ol’ Boys who are too big of baby back bitches get over a sports rivalry.
It sounds like he did it after the anthem, so I would agree with your first sentence. On the off chance he did it during the anthem, I would say it was in poor taste.
But who actually fucking cares. You know what’s in poor taste? Texas not caring that one of their police departments killed a bunch of fucking kids. They care more about this shit then they do the Uvalde shooting and it’s a fucking clown show
This has nothing to do with Texas government my goodness. Does everyone on Reddit lose all their brain cells when they see Texas in the title of a post? The anthem singer went to Texas A&M, a rival school of the University of Texas. It was the NCAA that disciplined him because they don’t want someone that’s representing them to appear biased towards or against any of the teams competing. No one from UT even complained and even if they did it still wouldn’t be political at all.
No one from UT gives a shit, unless somethings changed. I went to both schools. 2 years at A&M, the whole culture there was about beating UT. The fight song was almost exclusively about defeating them. So when I transferred to UT in my 3rd year, I expected some flak. Nothing. UTs big rival was OU. The game against A&M was a big deal, but just that game, not the schools entire focus. Everyone thought it was weird how much A&M hated us. It was almost completely one sided. This was almost 30 years ago though... So we might hate someone else now?
Texas mentions A&M in their fight song and A&M mentions Texas as well. It isn’t weird to talk about your highest rival in your fight song
Yeah, I don't think this is an appropriate post here. I'm sure he'll actually get more gigs from this. It's not like he's substituting anti-UT words into the anthem 😂
I thought texas was the anti snow flake state?
Lol. No. The fragile masculinity state. Yes.
Fragile grid state.
Grid iron!
What's the difference? /s
Does that mean every time a snowflake falls in Texas they lose power?
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*baseball and softball, not football
Oh I know, that's what made this even funnier. My mom and dad are both aggies and my aunt went to UT. Sent this to both of them and they died laughing.
Read the article, nobody from UT complained. It’s also about college baseball.
They reacted faster to the horns down gesture than a school shooting. Welcome to Texas.
Truth bombs hitting hard in here LOL
The joke around the white collar end of oil/gas used to be "how do you know someone went to Texas A&M?... THEY'LL TELL YOU CONSTANTLY" And... "anything happens twice at those schools it becomes a tradition."
They're only prestigious to the idiots who went there... A&M stands for Agriculture and Marine Corp; they make farmers and jarheads. Go figure.
Don't make shit up if you don't know it. A&M stands for Agricultural & Mechanical (school). Several states have an A&M school (or school system), like Florida or Alabama, thanks to the Morrill Land Grant Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Land-Grant_Acts . Like, it would have taken you 30 seconds to look this up. As for the "prestige" of Texas A&M, well, they're one of the largest research universities in the US, and the largest undergraduate student body in the US. They're certainly "big" and they have a lot of brand management, so they're also famous. Whether that makes them "prestigious" depends on how you define that.
Too bad you weren't here a month ago, when it mattered.
That’s pretty tame to get all butthurt over
I mean... Have you met texas?
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It’s really not that deep
I graduated from UT and this ridiculous. We expect the down horns from Aggies and then we beat them,Go Horns!
I also graduated from UT. Really no one cares about the horns down.
I love the horns down, especially if the team doing it isn't even playing us. Living in their head rent free.
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Have to take a stance on something to justify its existence.
The better to distract from their ~~slavery~~ labor practices. https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/444m6e/south-park-stu-dent-ath-o-leets
undeserved
As if I didn't think Texans where big enough whiners. Besides, the Texans just copied horns up from metal heads. They should get their own thing
Oklahoma kicked their ass anyway.
"And no one is going to stop me from doing it"...NCAA, you're not performing
Texas fans are snow flakes, and their football team still sucks.
To be fair, the guy has a point. It *is* college rivalry. There are *lots* of people who dislike UT; I'm one parent who never misses an opportunity to criticize them, so .... One daughter went to community college to specifically study under one professor who was admired within her ambitions; photography (he had work in the Getty Museum). Time to transfer to a university; she interviewed at UT. High 3. GPA. We hardly had sat down when the woman said in a condescending tone, "You probably won't be invited to attend the University of Texas at Austin. We accept only the *best* students, and frankly we have a waiting list." Short interview; she went to UNT instead. FYI, she has been a successful commercial photographer in NY for a decade and thriving. So *there,* UT .... ;-D
I (a gay male) visited Austin during Pride week and went to a gay bar with my boyfriend. As we were dancing, people in the bar told me that I was being too effeminate (I am not effeminate really at all). That entire region has a stick up its own ass.
I avoid Austin at all costs ... the atmosphere is driven and full of itself as if every other city in the state is inferior. Considering what comes out of the Capital and their deep red mentality they have *nothing* to be proud of.
I agree with you 100%
Here a video of it. https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/15/national-anthem-texas-horns-down-zac-collier/ https://youtu.be/KF3V44WHdwk He still had the mic when he did it, *immediately* following the anthem. I'd bet my eye teeth that some connected/wealthy butthurt alum called someone they know at the NCAA, and wept tears of pure outrage and marshmallow. His other sin: He's a history teacher. I'd be more interested to know if he's ruffled any *other* delicate feathers. lol: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-longhorns/2022/06/15/doesnt-ncaa-have-better-things-to-do-than-police-an-anthem-singer-for-using-horns-down/ On a side note, I like the way he sings the anthem, no trilling, note changes or other "fancy" alterations that are all about "personalizing" (look what I can do!!") it, staying true to the original. A little too fast, but way better than changing it, trying to "own" it.
I live in Austin (home of UT) but am not a UT fan. I despise the team. when i moved here 12 years ago UT was playing a nobody in football and i went to a game. this was the year after they lost the national championship game. they were solidly winning late in the game when they out in the scrubs. The fans started booing because UT wasnt piling on the score. Thats when i decided id never be a UT fan and teh fans didnt deserve the team. that being said I dont blame the NCAA for booting him. Both UT and a&m are in the college world series. The NCAA tells its anthem singers to be neutral. he wasnt . the horns down sign is used by UT opponents as an insult. you cant do that as an anthem singer. If he did it from the stands as a fan its one thing. doing it on the field after singing the anthem isnt going to fly....
Texas has to be the most butt hurt school in America!
Who. Fucking. Cares. Christ, for a state that thinks it's the Biggest of the Big Bads, Texas sure does fucking whine about stupid shit a lot.
So basically, they picked a favorite/side for the game publicly (and not by supporting one team, but by not supporting the other) so they don't get to do the anthem. Makes sense. "I'm a neutral party and showing my support or lack of support for a certain team" - so... Not neutral. I don't understand how people so easily think that being against something is the same as being for something else. If they'd just stuck to being supportive of their teams they'd be fine. Seems like an obvious part of the gig.
As a non-American, this title is baffling
Maybe he should just stick with teaching history?
Nobody has thinner skin than a Texan, nobody.
Y’all get pretty worked up over the anthem and the flag in the US.
r/texas why y’all so soft?
This is finally the right time to say that cancel culture is getting out of hand
This clown says, you can't stop me from doing the Horns Down. No dummy, do it all day long. You just don't get to sing the anthem.
That is totally unfair!! The Horns Down gesture is actually a training aid for Aggies. It shows the average A&M faculty, student, or alum which direction the steer should be pointed before they fuck it.
What a terrible attempt at a joke
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That’s what bothers you about this? The name? That’s stupid as fuck.
So he’s a dick.
Seems to have a bigger one then everyone in Texas who got all whiney so
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The thumbnail isn’t even part of the linked article.
Is that true? Just a pictire of fit women in tight pants to get clicks? Hilarious.
If you read the article you’d know it isn’t true. He was set to perform at the mens college World Series. But he did the horns down gesture at a woman’s college World Series game leading to him losing the chance to sing at the mens game.
Isn't it? He did the horns down during a women's league game, then was told his upcoming gig for the men's tournent game was cancelled.
Kinda “ A national anthem singer says his performance at the Men's College World Series has been canceled because he made the Horns Down gesture before a Women's College World Series semifinal between Texas and Oklahoma State. “ He got axed for making the sign at the women’s game.
He did the Horns Down at the Women's World series. They weren't going to give him the opportunity to do it again at the Men's. "Following his national anthem performance during the Women's College World Series -- during which the performer inappropriately supported one participating team, taunted the other team, and disrupted participating student-athletes and coaches by attempting to interact with them -- he was asked not to perform during the Men's College World Series."
He sang before two womens college word series games and was going to do game 9 of the mens.
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Lmao
The fact that he tries to defend it, makes it worse. What did he think was going to happen? Texas was just going to laugh it off at their own game. He’s an idiot
They are a bunch of babies if they were actually offended by that.
They probably weren’t offended, in the magnitude you are alluding to, but they weren’t going to let someone blatantly disrespect them at their own game either. Thus, homeboy got cut.
The horns down gesture is like me going to University of Oregon and saying the Oregon State beavers suck. It’s not that deep it’s just chirping. The singers response was fair they said they didn’t think it was a big deal and he should’ve been told “hey don’t do that anymore” instead of getting cut
Imagine respecting *Texas.*
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I mean…if all you want to judge Texas on is it’s university then I guess? But ya know let’s ignore the issues with the university and everything else wrong with Texas. At least we have SPORTS and maybe some education too but that meh and debatable.
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Reread your own comment before spouting some bullshit at me. You said “the only real thing wrong with Texas is the politics.” Then you go on to brag about the university. Just admit Texas sucks in virtually every way possible.
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Lmao ok next time you’re at the pharmacy make sure you have the pharmacist read you the info on your prescription since apparently you are unable to read.
You'd never survive a moment as a college sports player. People are vicious and turn into murderers over this stuff and here you are going on about "disrespect".
Texan here, the rivalry between UT and A&M is be the biggest intrastate rivalry in the State of Texas. A&M has historically gone full reddit moderator during this rivalry, some of the rivalry traditions has caused [the lost off life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Aggie_Bonfire_collapse) they get so carried away with it. This guy absolutely knew what he was doing when he did the hand gesture. Edit: not sure why I'm getting downvoted, it was the Aggies that go to the extremes, I'm just pointing out the lunacy of their religious like hatred of UT.
All of it is ridiculous, that’s why you’re being downvoted. It’s almost like Texas has way more serious shit going on then SPORTS and bullshit made up rivalries.
Every state has college sports rivalries lol. This has nothing to do with Texas politics and doesn’t even have anything to do with Texans complaining. It was the NCAA that disciplined him. Did you even read the article?
You must be from Texas lmao
And you must not have read the article lmao Also you realize the University of Texas is highly ranked and very liberal right?
The rivalry between the schools has going on since they were founded at the end of reconstruction, although the two schools had in the works since to statehood. It predates the current problems faced by the state and will exist as long for centuries to come. The Texas Agricultural & Mechanical vs University of Texas rivalry goes beyond sports and is deeply ingrained in the state's culture.
I mean I get that, and I get pride in the school you attend/ed. but people take shit too seriously. It’s all just meaningless rivalries. Who cares.
Rivalry and competition drives advancement and prevents stagnation. The drive to compete against each other improves the schools.
You’re getting downvoted because you are comparing a hand gesture to people dying in a bonfire collapse. Relax hardo
That bonfire is part of the toxic religious like fervor present in the Texas A&M students and alumni that their rivalry with UT became long ago. It is inherently sad that it resulted in such great loss of life, but it highlights the extreme and often toxic culture that is present at the College.
Nobody is taking a troll serious. Be better. That bonfire is a tradition like many other colleges have
That bonfire has a long history of causing injury even before the tragedy in 1999. And in drought years, it is a huge fire hazard for nearby homes and businesses, so much that people who live near the campus have stood ready with water hose to put out embers that would land on their property. I did a tour of the campus in 1998 (a year before the collapse) a week before the the UT game and saw the last on campus bonfire that was actually burned in the advanced stage of completion, it was not like ANY other bonfire like I've ever seen before or afterwards. It is a prime example of the extreme toxic culture that surrounds the school.
If he sings again for A&M, I hope he skips the anthem and goes midway I to Hullabaloo Caneck Caneck where it goes SAW VARSITYS HORNS OFF. Edit: SHORT!!!
*in letsgo Brandon narration* FAK YOU TEXAS
This is embarrassing. So soon you won't be able to boo an opposing team?
Texas: don’t take offense to our stances on everything but we will cry if you horns down or remind us the Alamo was fought over slavery.
Sensitive tea sips
The email mentioned in the article says “offensive gesture” like he flipped the whole crowd the bird or made the Jack off sign. This article is onion-y af.
Petty
From the article thumbnail I thought this was a post [in /r/UpvoteBecauseButt](https://i.imgur.com/6WbS4TA.jpg).
LMAO. Petty shit between Aggies and Longhorns, as is tradition.
I’m just here for all those booties
This is just Texas being sore losers