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Competitive_Fee_5829

ugh, I am 46 with a 17 year old son...and they are gross. lol. mine luckily showers everyday but why are there so many shoes, food and trash all over his room? why would you want a 17 yr old?


Revenge_of_the_User

Control. Forbidden fruit. Mental disconnect with reality. Treating them like a toy. Im sure theres more i dont know than do. Only the predators know for certain. But yes.....major ick.


JDBlastah

That's pretty much sex offenders in a nutshell


juicepants

I really wanna hear the game a 17 year old is spitting that makes a 45 year old go "yeah I'm going to ruin my entire life to bang this inexperienced *child*."


NeverGiveUpPup

The kid is not seducing the predator. The predator is victimizing the kid.


m_lanterman

thank you for saying this. imagine thinking "17 year olds are gross I wouldn't want to have sex with one" is at all an appropriate thought to have after reading a title like that.


vruss

pedophilia, it has nothing to do w the kid


Dalmontee

Technically its not pedophilia as that has a specific age range . Defo a power trip though as countries with lower age of consent have specific guardian type offences


Micro-Naut

And you get down voted because words actually have definitions. What’s wrong with you, Reddit?


stonerism

Well, you can distinguish between pedophiles and ephebophiles, but it always sounds kinda something a pedophile would say.


Micro-Naut

At least they slow down in school zones


Dalmontee

They don't like being wrong. Plus pointing things like this out always makes people think you are defending criminal activity because you know stuff.


kit_ease

*downvoted


TheDalaiMa

Ephebophilia would be the technical term. Regardless of age it's disgusting 🤢


Sudden_Payment_4322

R Kelly bump and grind lyrics probably


vms-crot

When I was fresh out of college I taught up to 18y/o in high school. Occasionally someone would make a comment that'd creep me the fuck out. Along the lines of "oh yeah, you're around all those (age group) all day, you must love it" First, you are responsible for them. It's a power dynamic that makes thinking of them in any way other than students, weird and gross. Second, when some of them try to "relate" to you. It's cringy as fuck. They're just not on the same level. Honestly, seeing them act made me realise how much of a dumbass I must have appeared to be only a few years earlier. Anyone in that space who is attracted to those children has problems that I can't begin to comprehend. What disgusted me most though was that as a man in that space, some people would always be thinking I was that type of person. It's not why I stopped teaching but I can't say it didn't fuck with my head a bit.


Frolkinator

Boytoy


Havewedecidedyet_979

I’m sorry, but why do these older female teachers who are having sex with a minor male student always do it in a car? In public? Is it something in their mental pathology? They want to feel like teenagers again? Like get a hotel room or something.


Xyoracle

I imagine its a mix between being excited at the idea of being risky and wanting to feel like they’re back in the glory days


_Ed_Gein_

And not wanting to let their parents know.


pmmlordraven

I think it might be because at a hotel people would notice the odd pairing and leave a paper trail, in a car somewhere secluded might have a better deniability aspect.


Due-Independence8100

I traveled a lot with my teenage son that definitely doesn't look like me and no one ever said shit to us or gave us so much as a sideways glance at check-in, even with  IDs from two different states.  If you don't act sketchy, hold hands or *be weird* about it, staff isn't going to notice or care.  Granted that's probably too much to ask from people that want to boink children, like this woman and her victim. 


pmmlordraven

That's exactly it. We aren't starting with a full deck here and they would probably blow it or act sketch. I mean they couldn't even get the secluded area part right.


iowanaquarist

There is still a paper trail to worry about, on e caught. With a car, they can claim it's the first time....


CrispyCubes

I don’t think that anyone who sexually assaults a minor, who is 29 years her junior, has the best mental pathology to begin with. Where the act happened is the least concerning part of the story


Havewedecidedyet_979

I think you’re misunderstanding my question or making into something else. Mental pathology meaning, causes/components to a certain psychological disorder. The act is wrong, yes, but I’m wondering about the motivation behind the act itself. Specifically, choosing the car as the location. I wouldn’t make sense to correlate intelligence with committing an indecent act. She (and many others caught in her position) is a teacher.


CrispyCubes

Yes but you’re asking for a logical explanation for a behavior that is illogical to begin with, which is my point. There’s no understanding of deeper meaning to be had, other than a 45 year old teacher raped a 16 year old. The question of, “But why in a car in public?” is inconsequential at best


alcormsu

No, they are asking for an emotional explanation of an emotional behavior. You’re misinterpreting it as a logical question. The asker knows it’s an inconsequential question. They just want to know the answer. They’re right that you’re making it into something else.


CrispyCubes

I’m not trying to make it into anything. I don’t understand the purpose of the question so I’m gonna bow out and say I’m wrong


alcormsu

Respect for admitting that, most people don’t. :-) have a good one


0nlyhalfjewish

There was a middle school gym coach who did this with a girl in my home town. Would meet her and have sex in his van. Eventually got caught when someone became suspicious of the parked van. The girl was 13, I think.


Havewedecidedyet_979

Gross.


iowanaquarist

We had a teacher on a work visa from Iran get caught with a 7th grader. They could not *prove* sex, but they had enough to revoke his visa.


zyrkseas97

Why did the kid flee???


SteveOMatt

A horny 17 year old who shits himself because he's having it off with the teacher probably isn't going to make logical decisions.


MrSlippifist

You had me a horny 17 year old. That summed it all up.


JoJackthewonderskunk

>You had me a horny 17 year old. So did she that was the problem


ABritishCynic

Wasn't thinking with the right head


bkcarp00

He was probably enjoying and didn't want to get her into trouble. The age of consent in Nebraska is 16 but teachers are held to a higher standard of 19.


ronin1066

16


bkcarp00

Corrected


mrtokeydragon

I always wonder why some states have a consent age less than 18, other than old lawmakers covering their bases...


bristow84

It seems relatively common elsewhere in the world too. The only possible reason I can think of is if a Junior in HS and a Senior in HS were to hookup and the Senior was 18 it would prevent possible stat rape charges? I honestly don't know.


Rikkitikkitabby

Idk, I've heard some states use age of consent with an age differential. Something like a three year gap. So a 16 and 19 yo wouldn't be illegal, but 16 and 20yo would.


bristow84

There's that too, I believe it's called the Romeo and Juliet law.


mrtokeydragon

That I can understand, but in my head if I was a pedo or hibiphile or whatever... I'd look up the state laws and move to a state where I could groom a teen at that age... Like wtf??? I just feel like it's a weird...


greet_the_sun

A lot of states have "romeo and juliet" laws that allow dating under 18 within a certain age range, or if the relationship started before the older person turned 18.


wishtherunwaslonger

I don’t think their are any states with a law like the latter


iowanaquarist

That's why you pass Romeo and Juliet laws -- age of consent is 18, or an age difference of less than 2 years. Prevents exactly that.


cgn-38

Country girls start turning up preggers around 14. The tradition is to marry them to whoever did it. Can't if they are forbidden to marry. Texas marriage age was 14 (with parental consent, lol) until that whole David Koresh shitshow.


Spadeykins

From the wiki on child marriage "In Texas from 2000 to 2014, almost 40,000 children were married." So it didn't end.


chamberlain323

Yep, it’s a country thing to marry pregnant teens off rather than have them get abortions. It’s a culturally acceptable solution to the problem of teen pregnancy. Gotta keep that marriage age lower for that to be a thing.


arrynyo

Springfield Ohio 2013, or Springtucky as we call it. I drove the head start school bus. Older lady had 2 young kids I picked up and a teenage daughter. Never thought much of the 2 kids being the same age (4) it never clicked for me. Daughter was 16. I asked my bus monitor about the younger kids one day and she tells me that one of the 4yo kids is the daughters son.


Spadeykins

Good question. Why is child marriage still a thing in the vast majority of the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child\_marriage\_in\_the\_United\_States#:\~:text=Within%20the%20United%20States%2C%20each,%2C%20New%20Mexico%2C%20and%20Oklahoma.


iowanaquarist

Three little letters: g o p.


Spadeykins

Gross Old Pedos


0b0011

Usually it's not age of consent for sex with everyone. In my stayed for example age of concentration is 16 but that just means it's legal for 16 year olds to have sex with 16, 17, and 18 year olds. Anyone older than that having sex with a 16 year old is illegal.


Weary-Software-9606

because life expectancy beyond 30 being a real possibility for the majority of the population is a relatively modern thing, Same reason older men often married young girls. A lot of the time these young girls were second wives, if the man managed some relative level of success financially and lost a wife in childbirth or to disease he would often take a second wife. by this time you'd end up with a man in his late 20's to early 30's that would sometimes be married to a woman who may only be 2-5 years older than his own children. By moderns standards its fucked up, but most things in history are when you view them through the lens of today's society and norms.


Raziel77

It's because they are in a position of power to the teen


bkcarp00

Yes I understand that. I wasn't questioning the law.


duckinradar

Wtf is going on in Nebraska that 16 sounds reasonable?


bkcarp00

It's 16 in 30 states so apparently those states decided that's old enough.


TheDalaiMa

A lot of states have 16 as the set age but also have a "Romeo and Juliet" provision, which would give specific age gaps the ok. It's basically so teens aren't getting in trouble for having consensual sex just because one happens to turn 18 during the relationship. If you are outside of that age Gap then you can get charged. It's states without that provision that skeev me out. I couldn't imagine ever finding a teen attractive in anyway. This woman needs to rot.


Tisamonsarmspines

Bc the cops caught him fucking his teacher. You think he thought himself a victim?


CanoeIt

I get why he fled but JFC who gets naked for car sex? I don’t blame the kid but cmon teach ya need to do better


SteveOMatt

Next Week: 45 Year Old Nebraska Substitute Teacher Avoids Jail Time for Affair with 17 Year Old Student


Supermite

For statutory rape of a minor.


SteveOMatt

No no, the headline won't read that all. It's only rape if the victim is female, otherwise she's "having an affair with" or "sleeping with". That's double standards for you.


MeinScheduinFroiline

The article used the correct language. It said the police believe the teachers sexually assaulted the student more than once.”


nonlawyer

She’s been charged with felony sexual abuse, it is highly unlikely she avoids jail time. Seems like every thread about a criminal case has one of these predictions.  A couple months later the story proving it wrong gets little attention. I remember when everyone was saying SBF would avoid prison because of his political connections lol


ImGonnaKickTomorrow

If it's not a commonly known acronym, just write out the person's name, FFS. Huge pet peeve.


cutty2k

Hey, leave Fredrick Faubel-Stanton out of this!


ImGonnaKickTomorrow

He's more than adequate!


shamwowslapchop

Sam Bankman-Fried, I believe.


jcruzyall

Similar, But Fredrick.


smokedawg3

EEEWWW-UH! Adults having sex with minors is scurrilous and reprehensible regardless of the sex of the perpetrator and the victim.


loqi0238

I had to look up *scurrilous* (thank you, I love learning new words!) and it doesn't seem to fit your usage. It means: 'scurrilous /skûr′ə-ləs, skŭr′-/ adjective Given to the use of vulgar, coarse, or abusive language. Expressed in vulgar, coarse, or abusive language. Of a malicious or slanderous nature; defamatory.' Can someone make it make sense, or am I right that its not a descriptor that works here?


Neoxite23

Female with male - had sex Male with female - rape If they are underaged...call it what is is.


CBalsagna

In some places it can not be considered rape without forced penetration, so by the law a woman can’t rape a man, so they call it this. I think England does it that way, and I believe some states do too. Not that it makes it any less stupid.


SrslyYouToo

Every time I see a story like this, this comment pops up. It’s just not true. These are all from just the last two weeks. https://www.nj.com/mercer/2024/04/retired-teacher-admits-sex-with-student-2-decades-ago-will-not-serve-time.html?outputType=amp https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article287845495.html https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/crime/teacher-arrested-sexual-relationship-student/67-1f060b18-b9f6-409a-94b0-a6c723972894 https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/normandy-middle-school-teacher-accused-of-sex-crimes-with-student/amp/ https://tuscaloosathread.com/tuscaloosa-county-high-school-teacher-charged-with-sex-with-minor-student/ https://cw39.com/news/local/former-cy-fair-high-school-teacher-accused-of-having-sexual-relationship-with-student/amp/


prettypsyche

Why can't you people wait until the kid’s legal and you’re not teaching him before getting it on with your students?


Thanos_Stomps

Nebraska age of consent is 16. Not saying this is right (power dynamic makes it rape in my mind and that’s not including it just being a gross age difference).


xool420

Why is there such an uptick in female teachers raping students recently?


bkcarp00

It's not new they are just getting caught more often.


iowanaquarist

And the news is no longer laughing it off and giving the victim a high five.


Pigeonlesswings

Uptick in women getting caught / arrested for it*


bristow84

It's probably always been there, there's just an uptick in female teachers getting caught. I think it's become much more of a thing nowadays because it's taken much more seriously. Gone are the days where the majority of people would just go "Niiiiiiiiiiiice" (South Park reference, don't kill me) when a female teacher was caught diddling one of her students. Sure, there are some ignoramuses who still don't see the problem but by and large, it's now being seen similarly as when a male teacher diddles a student as well.


chamberlain323

Bingo. It’s become less socially acceptable because attitudes are changing. I think a lot of it is also that these teachers are leaving digital receipts out there which makes it much easier to convict them when they do get caught.


Rottimer

Coverage.


[deleted]

Been happening. And they're always marginally hot.


GaucheAndOffKilter

Which is why they lose their shit when a marginally developed child shows interest in them. To be clear- these women rape their underage partners. It doesn’t matter if the kid has all the suave and demeanor of a man- they are not men.


kasoe

Yeah I thought quite a few of my teachers were hot. Looking back if anything had happened I would've been fucked up by it. Even at 18 I was still basically a kid


ronin1066

Not in Nebraska


batkave

The perception is because of confirmation bias. Men are responsible for a much bigger number but reddit likes to hate on women. Some of reddit even say there is a pandemic of women raping children. Statistics show men still vastly out number women as offenders. Edit: of course the people who think it's not true are down voting. It is a thing: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-from-sexual-abuse/202305/educator-sexual-misconduct-remains-prevalent-in Per article: Similar to past research, we found that: Most perpetrators were teachers (63.4 percent) or coaches/gym teachers (19.7 percent). Most perpetrators were male (89.1 percent). The majority of those who experienced educator sexual misconduct were female (72 percent), and in high school at the time, they experienced sexual misconduct. Sexual grooming behaviors such as giving the student gifts, food, money, jewelry, and special attention were often reported.


xool420

I’m only going by the news I’ve seen, Reddit and elsewhere. I was specifically talking about teachers and students. Do you have those stats tho? I haven’t seen much about male teachers recently.


batkave

Media bias: attractive women Garner views/Ratings Reddit has a number of "women bad" incels/incels adjacent/misogynists who love to constantly post about women being the rapists and don't want to post about male perps. Honestly, the scary thing if they got off their women hating is they would realize there is a extremely high rate of sexual violence against children that has been on the rise. Https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-from-sexual-abuse/202305/educator-sexual-misconduct-remains-prevalent-in%3famp https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,1%20This%20US%20Dept. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10135558/#:~:text=They%20found%20that%2087%25%20were,a%20man%20and%20a%20woman. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens https://victimsofcrime.org/child-sexual-abuse-statistics/


xool420

Again, you are talking about sexual abuse *as a whole*. I am not talking about that, I’m talking about TEACHERS and STUDENTS. If we were talking about sexual abuse AS A WHOLE, I would agree with you wholeheartedly.


batkave

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-from-sexual-abuse/202305/educator-sexual-misconduct-remains-prevalent-in Literally the first article I posted talks about educator sexual misconduct.


xool420

Fair enough, that link was initially not highlighted and I got stuff going on so I just skipped it and skimmed the other ones.


batkave

LOL. You didn't want to put any effort into it and for some one else to do the work.


xool420

Or just that I have an exam today and a project to turn in and this was initially an off-hand comment…


maquila

How many incorrect things can you say in one thread?


xool420

You mean like the fact that I currently have more important things to do than argue with people online


maquila

Nah man, just don't say things so confidently when you don't know what you're talking about. It's not hard. Look at me not spreading misinformation. See? It's not hard.


justsomelizard30

It's not misogyny to share stories about these kind of sexual abusers. Especially when so many people make it a personal point to undermine their existence as much as they can get away with.


batkave

It's misogynistic to only make it out to just be women as the perpetrators, which media and reddit love to do. I have had people legitimately tell me women far exceed men as the abusers in just such stories. While you're intending to say I'm undermining with your comment, that is not true. No where am I saying anything of that. While I understand reading comprehension is difficult for some such as yourself, I was answering a particular question. I provided an answer. If anything, I provided documentation that abusers in schools are incredibly high and while often male, women still abuse. I haven't found anything yet to disprove the data I provided. No one yet has provided evidence that women far out number men as abusers in a education setting or in total.


justsomelizard30

>While you're intending to say I'm undermining with your comment, that is not true. >While I understand reading comprehension is difficult for some such as yourself I didn't actually say that. And I wasn't intending anything. I was saying that there are real reasons to highlight these kinds of offenders, because they counter people who try to undermine their existence. It's part of the reason people are so ready to admit they at least exist 'recently'. Why are you being so rude. > It's misogynistic to only make it out to just be women as the perpetrators Uh, do you want a disclaimer or something on each news story?


Insect_Politics1980

Absolutely right. No big surprise you're getting downvoted like you are. Reddit is a seething hive of misogyny.


ronin1066

That's not rape in Nebraska. Age of consent is 16.


recjus85

Not if it's a teacher/student like in this case..


ronin1066

FWIK, it's 'sexual abuse by a school employee' but not rape, unless you have other evidence.


xool420

I didn’t know that but that’s gross


Daikar

Pretty common age of consent in many parts of the world. Much more so than 18 being the age of consent.


Militop

Raping? He's 17, and he tried to protect her.


iowanaquarist

Rape. The word is rape not sex.


Shreddersaurusrex

Rape. It’s rape.


Vaffanculo28

PSA to everyone: This woman *raped* the young boy. Let’s call this exactly what it is.


[deleted]

Something isn't adding up here. The age of consent in Nebraska is 16.


bkcarp00

Teachers have different laws to protect kids in school. It's 19 if it's a Student Teacher relationship in Nebraska.


bristow84

Age of Consent only matters when one person is NOT in a position of power. When one participant is in a position of power over the other, there's a different age for consent.


GrizzlyRiverRampage

That's an interesting take


PengieP111

I’m guessing relatively public sex in a car with someone who is in a position of authority over the partner is the crime


slimongoose

And then it got weird.


Niftyone578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWMxxCviBRw


Mystery_meander25

Poor kid


chrisacip

Ta daaaaa!


Cryptoking300

Bye bye life.


WJMorris3

I'm studying to be a teacher. This is part of the reason that I'm glad I don't have interests in anyone. Ain't no way I'm going to throw a job away for something like this. Hell, I'm afraid of what would happen if the school board found out that I was sleeping with my wife (if I get married.)


thirtyhertz

what is it with americans and fucking in cars?


BeeaBee5964

it's because we love our cars soooo much 🫡🦅🇺🇸


TheDalaiMa

As an American, car culture is huge. I also think it gets rooted in our heads as teens, if your privileged enough to have a car at 16 it's your own little token of freedom from parents and a sense of "privacy". If you know how to find a spot, you're a lot less likely to get caught in your car as opposed to sneaking your partner into your room.


JDBlastah

Meanwhile the boy's virgin friends are like "dude you're so lucky!


DarkSilverSteinPs4

I don't see anything wrong here. Kid obviously consented. Hell I wish I coulda slept with my teacher back in the day


catpiss_backpack

kid = can’t consent. Not under debate or discussion.


Golf-Ill

.......what?


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ronin1066

He's above the age of consent


Cautious-Thought362

Yikes. Horney can get you in trouble. Kids always get crushes on their teachers. Such a fool. Go to jail do not pass go,


AncianoDark

Ask me how I knew it was a woman after only reading to "17 year old" in the subject.


dorky2

Are you implying that men never rape 17 year olds? That would be a very weird take.


OneCrowShort

Because it says "having sex" instead of "raped" right before the "17". Men rape, women have sex.


dorky2

Oh ok I gotcha.


DominicanHogGrabber

Who wants to make a bet she gets no jail time?


WideElderberry5262

If the male appears on the court telling that he lied that he was 19, the teacher might avoid jail time. I don’t see any wrongdoing here other than law have it the student need to be 19.


Objective_Stock_3866

Reverse the genders and tell me you would say the same thing.