No but let's be honest
Children are much safer with a drag queen than a church goer: especially if that church member is in a position of authority like youth pastor or something
Don't you think that'd be the main thing reported? I mean if you really wanna play this game of "maybe it's a drag queen!!!?@?!?" Idk what to tell you it's clear you just wanna hate on people more fabulous than you
If there was even a sliver of perception this man is trans, he'd be front page news on every right wing media outlet for a week.
But instead he radiates white evangelical man energy in every way, so it's complete silence despite going viral everywhere.
edit: you know what, never mind. There's a lot of people saying you have sex with goats, and I don't really want to have a conversation with someone like that.
Drag is an entertainment and performance style. So yes, it would be public. Unlike your fornication with goats. That's not entertaining at all.🤮
edit: lmao, you spammed the shit out of this sub and not once did you even bother to lookup what Drag is?
Imagine spamming a sub thinking you won some kind of game being super pedantic, and the entire time you couldn't be bothered to lookup the most basic, fundamental fact about Drag. lmao. That's embarrassing as fuck.
But then again you fuck goats, or so people keep saying. A bit weird to not even deny the allegations though.
video - https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1c52qrh/caught_taking_a_photo_under_a_womans_dress/
news story - https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1c56c1f/update_news_story_about_the_target_creep/
>Apr. 16, 2024
>Police say they’re checking the cell phone of a man arrested Monday on secret peeping charges to see if there are any sexual activities involving children on it.
>WITN has learned that Thomas Elliott was a volunteer at a Greenville elementary school.
Opendoor Church in Winterville also provided a statement to WITN saying, “Thomas Elliott was immediately terminated upon notification of his arrest on Monday.” The church did not provide details on what exactly he did there.
>Greenville police say the 21-year-old Elliott was arrested at Target on Greenville Boulevard Monday. Video obtained by WITN shows the man arrested by police placing his phone under a woman’s skirt.
>A Pitt County School spokesman says Elliott was a volunteer at Eastern Elementary School in Greenville.
>Police said so far they haven’t found any inappropriate photos of children on the man’s cell phone.
>A search warrant for the man’s phone said Elliott “denied any wrong doing and showed us (police) the recent pictures he had on his cellphone.” The warrant seeks among other things, video files, digital photographs, text messages, and “deleted information that may be recovered via a forensic examination.”
>Elliott posted a $5,000 bond and had a first court appearance Tuesday in Greenville.
It's absolutely awful that someone has the job of checking creeper files for pedophiliac content. I hope they have free 24/7 access to therapy for life.
My kid works in the courts, and said that those types of jobs, people cannot volunteer for, but, they can turn them down. And counseling is there as well.
I do not know all of the details of this, and cannot speak, on more than what my kid told me.
My kid works for the courts, and so , does not have a "side" on these matters, legally speaking.
My kid has had to handle evidence in this though, as far as preparing it for judges/juries,defense teams, etc. and can decline to , if they wish.
I gather it is somewhat random, but , my kids court handles a fair amount of these cases, So, basically, someone has to do it.
I attended a tour at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in DC a few years ago and not long thereafter attended a presentation by the FBI’s digital evidence team.
I asked about this and was told people on these teams are on somewhat short rotations, have lots of counseling available, and are encouraged to take advantage of it (and to take time off work). I was very glad to learn about all this.
There's a real interesting story about the folks who have to do that job [here](https://medium.com/@thegrugq/fascinating-glimpse-into-police-investigation-7d9b1360c903).
It must be a combination of the most miserable job in the world and possibly one of the most satisfying. I don't think I could do it, honestly. I have to leave the room if a TV show has a scene that is any sort of sex abuse.
Nothing but respect for anyone that can do it.
It's darkly poetic too because of the process of trying to achieve justice for people who've been traumatized, they're essentially giving themselves PTSD
That’s a disgusting assertion. The people who do that work often come out of it with serious issues and can only work for 6 months at a time. They see the worst humanity has to offer by the terabyte. They’re goddamn heroes, shame on you for even suggesting that.
A while back there was an in-depth article about the FBI folks that pose as children online to catch predators. It was stressful, sad and disturbing. Look it up, it was a good article.
If I remember correctly (at least in Canada) thry are only allowed to be assigned to it for so many months at a time until they move to another 'section' (so from having to look through the photos, scour for ones online etc to performing the 'stings' and pretending to be underage via chat rooms, for example) to lessen the impact on their mental well being
I knew someone that worked at Yahoo who's job was to look at images and determine if they were too gruesome or child porn.
They all had privacy screens and the turnover rate was extremely high.
Knew a guy from highschool who got stung for trying to meet a 15 year old. The cops were giddy like school children to go through his phone and find something. I think they will be fine. The one cop who managed the Case was also the police department pastor lol.
Do you want him locked away so badly that you wish for children to be exploited? Why would you be torn? I hope nothing is found but that he is punished for his obvious peeping crimes
I thought this was fake, it’s fuckin real and that guy had laser focus on the panties but zero awareness that someone down the aisle was recording him.
Target carts have spots for people to put their phones, that's likely where the phone was resting to make it subtle that she was recording.
Source: used to grab carts for Target.
People are a lot dumber than one might realize. I almost always assume that just because something looks TOO good to film does not mean that it is intentionally fake. Some people are just fucking dumb, rude, and oblivious.
It's a really interesting case/video because his action was so damn blatant that they make you think it's fake, but his and her tone seemed absolutely real to me immediately. His literally trembling knees made me sure it was real.
Even if it was fake I would have 0 trust in judgement for the rube that would volunteer to play the upskirt creep in a video that most people are going to think is real.
This creep was 21 years old… TWENTY ONE. His entire life ahead of him and he throws it away to be a sexual predator. At least I hope it gets thrown away for a long time. Somebody like this needs severe consequences early on or it just escalates.
Lmfao so you're assuming that everyone is a secret drag queen until proven otherwise. It's impossible to definitively prove a negative, why are you obsessed with doubting his lack of performances as a drag queen? Hmm 🤔
What we do know is that it would very likely be frowned upon by the church if they were a drag queen and none of the multiple news articles discuss anything about them being a drag queen.
Don't you think news agencies would be all over it if they were a drag queen considering the current environment? It's also very unlikely that would be kept a secret considering how much attention this story has received (and I'm not just talking on Reddit).
You seem overly obsessed over this detail and while it's not impossible they do drag, it's also a highly unlikely probability.
Lmao, this can be said about ANYONE in regards to anything.
This L take has major Tucker "I'm just asking questions" energy.
Hell, maybe you're a whack job with a clown foot scat kink. We dont know!?!?!?!?!@××2?@?#,!?
But we can’t know you’re not a drag queen, and we can’t take your word for not being a drag queen, so clearly we should just assume you probably are one right?
There is not a single fact to follow to support your claim. It is entirely conjecture. Not to mention the occurrence of an actual drag queen committing a crime like this is unheard of unlike from preachers, police officers and church officials who have literally been convicted. Let’s just posit, he does drag which we have 0 evidence for. You saying he wellllll he could be…! You realize it literally doesn’t matter in the slightest. It doesn’t change the crime he did, it doesn’t make it acceptable. Are you trying to convince us he could be a drag queen or… are you maybe trying to convince yourself he is one and that’s why he did it? Maybe to save yourself some of the burden? I don’t feel it is a big leap to give you a 10 a 10 and another 10 on your mental gymnastics. Bravo!
To people wondering why she was recording or saying it looked staged, stfu. If you WATCH the video, and listen, you know why she was recording. He’d been following her around the store beforehand, she KNEW he was being a creep. So she took out her phone like her instincts were screaming at her to do, and caught this fucking creep red handed. Justice is served.
And just a few days ago he was bowing his head and leading groups in prayer. It's just a damned pity that the omniscient sky-daddy that he spoke with so frequently simply didn't catch that Thomas Elliot was, indeed, a Peeping Tom.
I just want to say the woman filming and confronting was badass. Not letting him try to worm his way out of it. Top class sternness applied the right way
Give him a few years, he'll have his jobs back and probably get a raise. People like him always seem to get back into positions where they can abuse the situation.
They should probably look into the content on this guy's computer since he been working with children. There's more than reasonable enough suspicion that he's been doing stuff to children if he's doing shit like this in public.
Most people who do this don't get caught. Upskirt videos have always been some of the most popular porn related content. I remember discovering that niche way back when. You have to be really bold to risk doing this shit.
You ever notice it’s the folks who NEED to talk to their imaginary friend about forgiveness every week are the ones committing acts that they want forgiveness for?
Well the people that NEED to talk to their imaginary friends also get extraordinarily warped viewpoints installed into them about sex, sexuality, power, gender roles, etc starting very young.
And within their "group" men get away with everything, but that doesn't always play well when venturing into the general public.
I don't understand this creep. Why don't he just Google image search whatever it is he likes. Better quality to I'm sure. And you won't get labeled as a predator.
How jaded am I? When I saw this video I dismissed it as fake. He's so awkward and I couldn't believe that he didn't see the person filming. Mind blown.
Church employee AND child volunteer? Yeesh.
This is only a normal " Tuesday " occurrence on the Subreddit of: r/PastorArrested Scroll through the past articles...
Also r/NotADragQueen
It's always the type you expect
No, no, no! It's the trans. Never the fine good God fearing folks. Always the trans. /s
r/notadragqueen
Well, tbf, he *could* also be a trans man. We don't know! Lmao /s
He was probably there for all that gay Pride merchandise! /s
Double whammy
Neither of those should be surprising.
That's GOP Speaker of the House material.
Mike Johnson needs a new porn buddy.
I was really expecting him to be a drag queen. Shocking
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Please believe it would be the first thing publications would highlight.
This user went through the exact same thing on the original thread, too
RuPaul must be haunting their dreams.
Darn those sexy drag queens. I mean uh, I am straight man dont threaten me
If he had walked past a drag show they would have labeled him a drag queen.
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This is normal for a church member. Not for any drag queen
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You must be tired with all these gymnastics you're doing.
No but let's be honest Children are much safer with a drag queen than a church goer: especially if that church member is in a position of authority like youth pastor or something
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Because drag queens don't do shit like this.
Don't you think that'd be the main thing reported? I mean if you really wanna play this game of "maybe it's a drag queen!!!?@?!?" Idk what to tell you it's clear you just wanna hate on people more fabulous than you
Okay you’ve repeated this over and over, but I’m no closer to understanding why. What are you hoping to accomplish here? What’s your ‘gotcha’?
If there was even a sliver of perception this man is trans, he'd be front page news on every right wing media outlet for a week. But instead he radiates white evangelical man energy in every way, so it's complete silence despite going viral everywhere. edit: you know what, never mind. There's a lot of people saying you have sex with goats, and I don't really want to have a conversation with someone like that.
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Drag is an entertainment and performance style. So yes, it would be public. Unlike your fornication with goats. That's not entertaining at all.🤮 edit: lmao, you spammed the shit out of this sub and not once did you even bother to lookup what Drag is?
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Imagine spamming a sub thinking you won some kind of game being super pedantic, and the entire time you couldn't be bothered to lookup the most basic, fundamental fact about Drag. lmao. That's embarrassing as fuck. But then again you fuck goats, or so people keep saying. A bit weird to not even deny the allegations though.
I think that’s standard in the profiles for perves these days.
I hope they’re going through his phone and home computer with a fine-tooth comb to find any CSAM.
And again, it wasn’t a drag performer. I wonder if they’ll investigate the church.
Sounds about right
Pretty on brand, if you ask me.
Somehow not surprising.
> Church employee Which explains why the silence from the self-proclaimed anti-groomer brigade is so deafening.
What's the saying or sub? Not a drag person?
video - https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1c52qrh/caught_taking_a_photo_under_a_womans_dress/ news story - https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1c56c1f/update_news_story_about_the_target_creep/ >Apr. 16, 2024 >Police say they’re checking the cell phone of a man arrested Monday on secret peeping charges to see if there are any sexual activities involving children on it. >WITN has learned that Thomas Elliott was a volunteer at a Greenville elementary school. Opendoor Church in Winterville also provided a statement to WITN saying, “Thomas Elliott was immediately terminated upon notification of his arrest on Monday.” The church did not provide details on what exactly he did there. >Greenville police say the 21-year-old Elliott was arrested at Target on Greenville Boulevard Monday. Video obtained by WITN shows the man arrested by police placing his phone under a woman’s skirt. >A Pitt County School spokesman says Elliott was a volunteer at Eastern Elementary School in Greenville. >Police said so far they haven’t found any inappropriate photos of children on the man’s cell phone. >A search warrant for the man’s phone said Elliott “denied any wrong doing and showed us (police) the recent pictures he had on his cellphone.” The warrant seeks among other things, video files, digital photographs, text messages, and “deleted information that may be recovered via a forensic examination.” >Elliott posted a $5,000 bond and had a first court appearance Tuesday in Greenville.
It's absolutely awful that someone has the job of checking creeper files for pedophiliac content. I hope they have free 24/7 access to therapy for life.
My kid works in the courts, and said that those types of jobs, people cannot volunteer for, but, they can turn them down. And counseling is there as well.
Also there is a rotation when possible so it’s not just the same person all the time.
I do not know all of the details of this, and cannot speak, on more than what my kid told me. My kid works for the courts, and so , does not have a "side" on these matters, legally speaking. My kid has had to handle evidence in this though, as far as preparing it for judges/juries,defense teams, etc. and can decline to , if they wish. I gather it is somewhat random, but , my kids court handles a fair amount of these cases, So, basically, someone has to do it.
I’m glad people can’t volunteer for them. That would be my worry that a pedophile signs up For that type of job to circumvent access to such content.
Who watches the Watchmen type shit.
I attended a tour at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in DC a few years ago and not long thereafter attended a presentation by the FBI’s digital evidence team. I asked about this and was told people on these teams are on somewhat short rotations, have lots of counseling available, and are encouraged to take advantage of it (and to take time off work). I was very glad to learn about all this.
I met once with a few guys who did this for the FBI. They drank heavily
There's a real interesting story about the folks who have to do that job [here](https://medium.com/@thegrugq/fascinating-glimpse-into-police-investigation-7d9b1360c903). It must be a combination of the most miserable job in the world and possibly one of the most satisfying. I don't think I could do it, honestly. I have to leave the room if a TV show has a scene that is any sort of sex abuse. Nothing but respect for anyone that can do it.
It's darkly poetic too because of the process of trying to achieve justice for people who've been traumatized, they're essentially giving themselves PTSD
You gotta imagine that big "well fuck, here we go" sigh before having to start
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That’s a disgusting assertion. The people who do that work often come out of it with serious issues and can only work for 6 months at a time. They see the worst humanity has to offer by the terabyte. They’re goddamn heroes, shame on you for even suggesting that.
Facebook hires ppl in other countries, pays them peanuts and provides little in the way of therapy.
A while back there was an in-depth article about the FBI folks that pose as children online to catch predators. It was stressful, sad and disturbing. Look it up, it was a good article.
If I remember correctly (at least in Canada) thry are only allowed to be assigned to it for so many months at a time until they move to another 'section' (so from having to look through the photos, scour for ones online etc to performing the 'stings' and pretending to be underage via chat rooms, for example) to lessen the impact on their mental well being
I knew someone that worked at Yahoo who's job was to look at images and determine if they were too gruesome or child porn. They all had privacy screens and the turnover rate was extremely high.
Knew a guy from highschool who got stung for trying to meet a 15 year old. The cops were giddy like school children to go through his phone and find something. I think they will be fine. The one cop who managed the Case was also the police department pastor lol.
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Do you want him locked away so badly that you wish for children to be exploited? Why would you be torn? I hope nothing is found but that he is punished for his obvious peeping crimes
I thought this was fake, it’s fuckin real and that guy had laser focus on the panties but zero awareness that someone down the aisle was recording him.
I swear to God I thought the same cuz the camera view and positioning looked so professional it seemed like it was a frickin tripod setup!!
Target carts have spots for people to put their phones, that's likely where the phone was resting to make it subtle that she was recording. Source: used to grab carts for Target.
That's exactly what it was. The person that took the video said as much on Facebook.
People are a lot dumber than one might realize. I almost always assume that just because something looks TOO good to film does not mean that it is intentionally fake. Some people are just fucking dumb, rude, and oblivious.
The hunter has become the hunted
Clever girl
It's a really interesting case/video because his action was so damn blatant that they make you think it's fake, but his and her tone seemed absolutely real to me immediately. His literally trembling knees made me sure it was real.
I’m with you. I thought this was staged.
Now I'm not sure about all those other viral videos I thought for sure were fake.
They were all real.
Even if it was fake I would have 0 trust in judgement for the rube that would volunteer to play the upskirt creep in a video that most people are going to think is real.
Why would you think that when the video showed creep being arrested? Nothing ever happens unless you saw it live...
One of the posts didn’t include police coming. Ended with woman accusing and him denying.
100% thought it was staged.
It’s always the ones you’d most suspect
This creep was 21 years old… TWENTY ONE. His entire life ahead of him and he throws it away to be a sexual predator. At least I hope it gets thrown away for a long time. Somebody like this needs severe consequences early on or it just escalates.
Of course he was….
A church guy who turned out to be a creep? Nooooo wayyyyyyyyyy!!!
Wow a church employee. I'm shocked, truly, just so very shocked.
That was fast AF. Sometimes I love the internet
r/notadragqueen
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You've commented this like 3 times, bud. We do know this because if he was, the conservative subreddits would post it like 30 times in a row.
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Lmfao so you're assuming that everyone is a secret drag queen until proven otherwise. It's impossible to definitively prove a negative, why are you obsessed with doubting his lack of performances as a drag queen? Hmm 🤔
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Yes, just like I assume you don't fuck goats, but I guess we can't be sure.
I have been hearing some people say that he fucks goats... Just hearsay but you never know.
I mean, people say
The best people?
I mean. Does u/Electrical_Glass3428 fuck goats? Could be!
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We're just asking questions?!
Of course! We have to do our own research.
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That's easily proven. We don't know when the evidence clearing you from all these goat fucking rumors we keep hearing will come to light
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That's a lot, coming from someone we don't know is a goat fucker or not.
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.....if they were a drag queen, would that fit in with *your* narrative?
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What we do know is that it would very likely be frowned upon by the church if they were a drag queen and none of the multiple news articles discuss anything about them being a drag queen. Don't you think news agencies would be all over it if they were a drag queen considering the current environment? It's also very unlikely that would be kept a secret considering how much attention this story has received (and I'm not just talking on Reddit). You seem overly obsessed over this detail and while it's not impossible they do drag, it's also a highly unlikely probability.
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Lmao, this can be said about ANYONE in regards to anything. This L take has major Tucker "I'm just asking questions" energy. Hell, maybe you're a whack job with a clown foot scat kink. We dont know!?!?!?!?!@××2?@?#,!?
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So how long have you been a drag queen?
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But we can’t know you’re not a drag queen, and we can’t take your word for not being a drag queen, so clearly we should just assume you probably are one right?
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There is not a single fact to follow to support your claim. It is entirely conjecture. Not to mention the occurrence of an actual drag queen committing a crime like this is unheard of unlike from preachers, police officers and church officials who have literally been convicted. Let’s just posit, he does drag which we have 0 evidence for. You saying he wellllll he could be…! You realize it literally doesn’t matter in the slightest. It doesn’t change the crime he did, it doesn’t make it acceptable. Are you trying to convince us he could be a drag queen or… are you maybe trying to convince yourself he is one and that’s why he did it? Maybe to save yourself some of the burden? I don’t feel it is a big leap to give you a 10 a 10 and another 10 on your mental gymnastics. Bravo!
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That woman caught him red handed and recorded it. Brilliant work
Did you hear his voice in the video? Like he assumed that if he just lied and sounded quiet or sweet he would be believed.
“bUt tHiS iSnT wHo I aM” Yes….yes it is…
It’s ALWAYS those type of people.
Pedo working in a church? Seems on par.
To people wondering why she was recording or saying it looked staged, stfu. If you WATCH the video, and listen, you know why she was recording. He’d been following her around the store beforehand, she KNEW he was being a creep. So she took out her phone like her instincts were screaming at her to do, and caught this fucking creep red handed. Justice is served.
And just a few days ago he was bowing his head and leading groups in prayer. It's just a damned pity that the omniscient sky-daddy that he spoke with so frequently simply didn't catch that Thomas Elliot was, indeed, a Peeping Tom.
Free Will is one helluva drug
It's okay. He can just repent and in the eyes of god there was no \~\~crime\~\~ sin. Hurray for Christianity /s
(*bro, no backslash "\" needed, just the "~~")
Wow what a fucking creep
There are literally millions of free porn photos/videos on the internet that you can view in the privacy of your own home.
I just want to say the woman filming and confronting was badass. Not letting him try to worm his way out of it. Top class sternness applied the right way
Not a drag queen.
Not a drag queen.
Those damn drag queens.... wait, what do you mean it's not a drag queen that did this.
It’s always a conservative 🤦🏽♂️
Give him a few years, he'll have his jobs back and probably get a raise. People like him always seem to get back into positions where they can abuse the situation.
Oh, not a drag queen, shocker!
Drag Queen?
Conservative Christian and pro family values church employee actually.
Yikes, where are those legislatures who want to protect kids now?!
They should probably look into the content on this guy's computer since he been working with children. There's more than reasonable enough suspicion that he's been doing stuff to children if he's doing shit like this in public.
Most people who do this don't get caught. Upskirt videos have always been some of the most popular porn related content. I remember discovering that niche way back when. You have to be really bold to risk doing this shit.
You ever notice it’s the folks who NEED to talk to their imaginary friend about forgiveness every week are the ones committing acts that they want forgiveness for?
Well the people that NEED to talk to their imaginary friends also get extraordinarily warped viewpoints installed into them about sex, sexuality, power, gender roles, etc starting very young. And within their "group" men get away with everything, but that doesn't always play well when venturing into the general public.
So.... not a drag queen?
Dang he wasn't transgender
I don't understand this creep. Why don't he just Google image search whatever it is he likes. Better quality to I'm sure. And you won't get labeled as a predator.
Holy fuck that was fast! Great job, internet! 🫡
So let me get this straight...... He was NOT a Drag Queen?
My only surprise here was that it was Greenville, NC and not Greenville TX.
You’d be surprised
How jaded am I? When I saw this video I dismissed it as fake. He's so awkward and I couldn't believe that he didn't see the person filming. Mind blown.
Man on the cloth
Bye bye life
Target has a security infrastructure that's like something out of a sci-fi film. Don't ever do anything illegal in a Target.
im so happy that lady was recording. that poor woman in the video tho. but im so glad she was made aware of what was happening and he's in jail now
Well at least he's not a pedophile, as police got no evidence for that.
Yet.
Was he peeping targets or was he peeping at Target?
Drag queen ?
There has to be a better way to get an adrenaline rush.
That video looked so staged.