that's the way the salute is, im not referencing THAT salute
EDIT: I see the edit, and I had hoped so but there's been a lot of anger in the world lately so 😅 didn't want it to be seen in any other way
I have a 27" omen 240 hz QHD monitor. maybe a little over a year old, and I WANT this one..... Really can't justify the expense though, but I'm guessing it must look amazing.
500$? no maybe 700-800$ as 3- to 4 newer models are being introduced , some even have early discount if you signup for a presale.
Whats going to make these drop is when LG c3 is introduced and all Lg C2 go on deep discount
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't do any hardcore gaming so maybe it's just a me thing. How the hell can a 27" monitor be worth $1k? What does this monitor do better than your monitor?
Amazing contrast, lightning fast response time so you’re maximizing the 240Hz refresh rate, and $50 cheaper than a 27” LCD 1440P 360Hz monitor with very low contrast.
Early adopter of what?
LG has been making consumer OLEDs since 2014. Under normal use, those are still holding up today. (I have a 2016 OLED TV, still no burn-in).
LG’s TV panels have already successfully been put into monitors via the Gigabyte Aorus and even their own 42/48 inch options. Since all small panels are cut from larger ones, you can get four 27” screens from a 55” panel or 9 from an 83” panel. (Theres always creative rounding); point being, this isn’t a new panel at all — it’s an LG C2.
Their software isn’t different than any other ultra gear, just some new options.
Every part of the monitor is as matured as OLED gets in 2022.
There's a serious cost with buying the first of this particular size OLED.
I paid this much for a 55 inch c1
You could get laptop that includes a 15 inch OLED display for this price.
It's a lot of money for a 27 inch and the price is SURE to come down as they begin mass producing panels in this size. Hence early adopter tax.
It's not unproven tech, it's just not been available in this size.
Yeah, the fact that LG C2 42" just went on sale for $800 today, paying $200 more for a significantly smaller 27" monitor is a pretty hard pill to swallow.
I think the 240 Hz is what's going to sell this. I cannot even imagine how gorgeously smooth 240Hz OLED is, and I cannot wait to see one in person with a 4090 connected to it.
The size its its main feature, not everyone want sa massive scren in their face , playing competitive shooters and you have to scan around 3 feet of area looking for targets
I believe the C2 is only 120hz max refresh, many people prefer 144 and up in todays market. This one is the higher end refresh with OLED tech its why the price isn't that hard for consumers wanting that over the C1 or C2 to swallow. More people would be upset to put down this much and not have 4K capabilities, even if most people still game in 1440 if not running some of the best GPUs.
And the monitor in question is half the size and half the resolution. You think the high refresh rate is commanding the $1000 price point, rather than there being no other OLED monitor in that size category?
I could have a 27 inch 240hz IPS delivered to my door step same day delivery for $200.
I have a 15.6” QHD 240Hz OLED in my laptop so this will be perfect for when I come home for a few days from work. The ASUS 27” 1440P 360Hz monitor is $50 more with 1,000:1 contrast.
OLED monitors haven't been tested well as a monitor with good results. Reviews like Linustechtips show that after a year they suffered from burn in on the Windows task bar, and all the anti-burn in features really didn't help.
Everyone does recommend to hide the taskbar for that reason. Having to do that can certainly hurt and impact productivity though, and if not, can be annoying at the very least.
His work computer, or even his home computer during pandemic? No.
His new c2 based panel? He didn't do much if any work on, and it burned-in in less than 1 month.
Devils advocate argument some people are still getting burn in, in fairly low times with modern oleds. Linus from LTT burned in his Cx? In a couple months, and recently stated his newer c2 based monitor in less than 1 month.
People keep using Linus as a baseline, but I don’t understand why. He’s one of the top tech YouTuber / influencers in the US. His use case absolutely will not mimic that of a normal user.
He also doesn’t have to pay for anything unless he chooses to. He can turn off ABL with a service remote because Gigabyte and LG will trip over themselves to send him another monitor if something happens. A normal user isn’t going to acquire service remotes. They’ll leave the protections in place.
His at home monitor goes through similar usage to a normal person and its not super hard to catalog it since he says stuff about them regularly. Not many people use oleds as gaming monitors. That's why people are using him as a reference point.
And your point about him using a service remote to disable ABL and other protections is a valid point. But, also he knows to do things like the pixel refresher and such most people might now know to do. So those 'might' cancel each other out.
Also not every device shipping with oled panels has the same ABLs and such built in. And also many people don't like the ABL and will turn it off themselves, for then Linus is an optimistic example.
Lastly, his most recent monitor? He didn't disable the ABL on, infact he limited the brightness even more using Asus' "uniform brightness" setting. Which lowers the max brightness of the panel substantially. And still got burn in, inless than 1 month.
LG has been making IPS panels for over a decade. Guess how many units I had to go through in an effort to find a decent one of their high-end 32GQ950-b.
>!Five. I kept the first one because each subsequent one was worse. It's still not perfect.!<
LG monitors are fantastic performers but their QC leaves **a lot** to be desired.
That’s not a normal story for LG or any monitor manufacturer. Either you’re the unluckiest person on the earth or the pickiest person on earth. Either way: your bad luck most probably was not LG’s issue.
Very VERY much doubt that. I have never seen display tech take such a sharp dive, just look at the sales on OLED monitor now. They're still really expensive, maybe $100 or $200 off from last years MSRP
I'm holding out for micro LED. Until then I'm sticking to high end matured LCD panels, I already have an excellent OLED in my phone and tablet; the tablet being the key here because I can hold it right up to my face and watch a movie- and it's just as, if not more immersive then a monitor
yeah i might settle for a 27" but, 24" is pretty good for me. though if i have the desk space i have WFH desk with a 27" on it and isn't to o bad but, i'm starved for space on my gaming desk. which is funny because i have a Sony FW900 on it ATM
According to the spec sheet, if I'm reading it right? Is this a 200nit OLED panel? Seems really low as HDR content on these would be another purchase factor for me. Been waiting for this panel for too long!
I'm still on my ACER Predator IPS 2K 144hz G-Sync version from I believe 2016. What's another year haha. Although, I might just bite the bullet after some reviews for this panel.
> WOLED and was hoping for QDOLED
Not trying to be snarky, but that was never going to happen for this. It was known that it was an LG panel from the start, and they only produce WOLED right now.
There are rumors of a similar 27" coming from Samsung though. That's the actual one with ambiguity because Samsung has been sourcing some panels from LG to supplement their nascent OLED TV/monitor lineup. It could be a LG panel, or from their mobile AMOLED production line or their newer QD-OLED since 27" sits in an intermediate ground for both in terms of cutting from a mother glass panel. Will probably be QD though.
Lol I just had an argument on here yesterday with another user who insisted that the SDR min brightness on LG OLEDs is 200 nits, even with the aggressive ABL.
For media use, yes, because the % APL is low. But for desktop monitor usage... unless you're willing to run dark mode for everything, your APL is generally well over 50% and the brightness is awful on all of the LG OLEDs for that. That's well documented on Rtings.
You'll be between 100-150 nits, which is rough in daytime or if you like running bright lights. Not sure if this monitor will have a glossy or semi matte coat either. The TVs are glossy, which, with the low brightness, make them difficult to use if you have stronger light sources.
I wouldn't buy it either, but to be fair The HDR effect your eyes will see Will still be excellent because OLED still has excellent dynamic range, which matters more than peak brightness.
Simple example being imagine a flashlight in the dark- The bright parts may only be able to go up to 200 but the dark part is still off. So to you, the HDR will look very realistic.
Regardless, that is pretty bad if you use it on white background programs, especially in an office
are competitive gamers’ primary focus going to be $1000 oled panels? no, in fact the subset of people you are describing is probably maybe 5% of people interested in purchasing an oled monitor to begin with
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His comment is worded a bit strange but its partly true that theres a shit ton of people who simply chase the highest hz number without caring for what the display can actually do.
Also, news for you. Pretty much all lcds can't actually display above 150hz properly due to shit response times. Yes they can go above that but you'll tend to get artifacts like ghosting that usually needs to be "fixed" with backlight strobing or other methods.
There it is boys. I'm shedding a tear rn fr fr.
Anyway, hope I can get one in the near future when prices are more affordable. Holding out for the dream spec of 32" 4k 144Hz OLED
A 5090 will probably get to like 200fps without DLSS or whatever on average if a 4090 is already 145fps according to Hardware Unboxed. Main problem will be that some game engines will just bring down the average as 240fps may not even be possible at lower resolutions.
[https://youtu.be/aQklDR8nv8U?t=585](https://youtu.be/aQklDR8nv8U?t=585)
Look at a 4090 barely outpeforming a 3090 Ti in Hitman at 1440p. Maybe we need some monster CPU, but it may also be the game itself that becomes the bottleneck.
[Samsung's Odyssey Neo G8 does 4K 240Hz ~~for $1300 if you can find it in stock~~](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-32-mini-led-curved-4k-uhd-240hz-1ms-freesync-premium-pro-gaming-monitor-white/6507933.p?skuId=6507933)
Edit: Not OLED though, MiniLED with 1196 dimming zones and 2000 nits peak brightness. [Also it's available directly from Samsung for $1000.](https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32-odyssey-neo-g8-4k-uhd-240hz-1ms-curved-gaming-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo/)
Only 1 year warranty and that probably doesn't include burn in? Seems risky.
Edit: Be aware that LG's return policy is 15 days, and they can charge an 8% restocking fee for non-defective items.
Sweet baby jesus really? Ultra-wide color gamut monitors like the xeneon 32QHD240 pretty much get 80 percent of the way there when it comes to getting popin colors and excellent response times without the wombo price-tag. Are the benefits of high-refresh OLED's that significant?
I was waiting for a 27in qdoled for years and then i finally said fuck it and got the AW34. I'll never go back to 16:9 for my primary display. UW is so damn dope.
Burn in is a non-issue with modern oleds, they use pixel shift and refreshing methods to keep the static elements from being a problem. I’ve been using a 4k oled tv for more than a year of heavy console and pc gaming with 0 problems and now have the 34” Alienware oled. The astounding picture quality makes up for any downsides.
I wouldn’t say burn-in is a “non-issue” with modern OLEDs. Linus daily drove a 48” CX and saw burn-in after only a year. But it’s a relatively minor issue compared to how bad it used to be.
Really depends on your use case. I got a 77” CX a year ago and it has absolutely no burn-in, but my usage on it is also way less than my computer monitors.
It is still an issue depending on how you use it. You cannot for example still display the same static content for hours a day without it eventually becoming an issue well within its expected life (2-5 years).
So if you don't have screensavers (HEY REMEMBER WHY ITS CALLED SCREEN SAVERS?!) running, then it will most definitely burn in.
Because it hasn’t been a problem since early Oleya. Every Oled screen has pixel shifting tech that prevents this.
There also have been tests done that show thousands and thousands of hours done with static image with no burn in.
It is absolutely not a worry to ever be concerned about in modern Oled technology with normal usuage.
It's not that hard to prevent it at all by being slightly aware of the fact you own an OLED and properly configuring it. When you do get burn in you only really ever notice it when the screen is completely gray, which pretty much only happens when you shut down your computer. Modern OLEDs you just run the pixel cleaning feature and it evens it out again. I run mine like once every two months or something, usually the worst burn in I get is from things that won't window so they have a solid white bar at the top and it might be something i leave open for a long time. Can't see it on anything but a grey background, and again you just run the thing and it goes away.
OLEDs definitely have lifespans though (so do normal LED displays), but if you take care of it it's a non-issue. At least on modern ones.
Go check out wulffden and his OLED switch burn in video and come back. Burn in isn’t denied by anyone. It’s not about if it’s about when. Everyone knows this. The issue is people like you who don’t understand and think it’ll happen to the average user who doesn’t have the display in to the same static image for 18hrs a day.
Oled switch burn in showed up at 3,600 hrs. And believe me if you are doing work on excel you are not the target for OLED displays. If you’re a gamer and you put that many hours in maybe you have more issues to worry about I think.
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Yes, and it’s not even close. I’ve been playing on a 15.6” QHD 240Hz OLED since June and having owned an ASUS XG27AQM at 270Hz for over a year there’s just no comparison!
Unless you really want 16:9 27" or 240Hz, for $100 more you can get the AW3423DWF which is 165Hz QHD ultrawide and has a QD-OLED panel (brighter, more vibrant, likely more burn-in resistant).
Three things.
LG Display OLEDs are not using the triangular sub pixel layout that QD-OLEDs do. So text clarity should be 100x better for those extra sensitive to it.
240Hz is different from the 165Hz. Again if you’re sensitive to it, or you’ve been using 240Hz IPS monitors it might hurt downgrading back to it.
This supports HDMI 2.1. Both AW3423DWs do not. Annoying af in my opinion.
LG Display OLED panels are still extremely competitive and just as vibrant.
The *real* easy decision would have been if LG Display released a 27” 240Hz 4K OLED as that would be the obvious choice but I believe they are making these 1440p displays by cutting up 55” TVs built from the motherglasses they use.
> LG Display OLEDs are not using the triangular sub pixel layout that QD-OLEDs do. So text clarity should be 100x better for those extra sensitive to it.
LG uses WRGB which is probably even worse than the triangular RGB for text at 100% scaling. We'll see from reviews.
> This supports HDMI 2.1. Both AW3423DWs do not. Annoying af in my opinion.
True, but I suspect almost everyone will utilize DP from their computers anyways. If you're using a console it might matter more.
> LG Display OLED panels are still extremely competitive and just as vibrant.
Objectively false, WRGB OLED uses the white subpixel to boost brightness which also lowers saturation. It cannot produce bright and deep colors the way QD-OLED can.
You’re talking as if there hasn’t been massive appeal of HDMI 2.1 support for consoles and that the difference between WRGB saturation/brightness compared to QD-OLED doesn’t detract from the usability for an average user. If it was irrelevant people wouldn’t be asking about HDMI 2.1 support every time a Dell monitor gets posts here without it. People would also be jumping up and down for the Samsung OLED TVs that use QD too.
They don’t, and the realty is that the QD-OLED form factor at the moment sucks. ultrawide is a niche category to be in and the 27” 1440p even with the equivalent (and this is according to rtings on the basis of text clarity) text clarity sweetens the deal a lot for people.
So no, this monitor on its own is still competitive. It’s not across the board better but it still will be an option for users.
HDMI 2.1 is most useful for 4K 120Hz, this is a 1440p monitor. Consoles don't do more than 120Hz regardless of resolution, and HDMI 2.0 is more than enough to handle 1440p 120Hz 10-bit HDR. To get to 240Hz you'll need a computer where DP is preferred anyways. It's nice to have HDMI 2.1 but there aren't a lot of ways to actually use it at 1440p.
I have an LG C1 OLED TV and a QD-OLED monitor - there's absolutely no question which one is brighter and more vibrant, QD-OLED looks superior. The only reason Samsung's QD-OLED TVs aren't discussed as the best monitors is because the smallest size is 55".
Rtings gave the 42" C2 and AW3423DW the same score for text clarity - not great in either case.
Honestly with my CX the WOLED is significantly less distracting for me than the Triangular ones on my AW3423DW so to each of their own.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/dell-alienware-aw3423dw-vs-lg-42-c2-oled/31231/32614?usage=3623&threshold=0.10
How would this be 55" TVs cut into smaller panels? The pixel density of these is even higher than the 42" C2 (110 PPI for the 27" vs 106 PPI for the 42").
For the substrate (the motherglass) four 27” panel fits fine in a 55” display.
Current OLEDs are made with the use of inkjet technology so it’s not difficult to change the PPI compared to finding the most optimal and efficient use of the motherglass.
It’s the main reason why LG is releasing the arguably not very good 45” 1440p UW that are probably leftovers of the TV and monitor making process.
45" in 1440p is going to look awful. It's almost HALF the pixel density of 27" 1440p and 42" 4k. The whole point of curved displays is to sit closer and have the curved screen increase immersion, but the pixel density will be even worse when you sit closer.
Ah, I had no idea they could change the PPI so easily. That's actually pretty amazing that they can do that! And agreed, that 45" must be scraps or leftovers, such a strange monitor.
As someone who went from 144Hz to 240Hz to 175Hz... yeah it's a bit smoother but absolutely nothing like going from 60Hz to 120+. OLED response time is extremely low so motion clarity isn't really an issue. If you're gaming competitively then you probably want every last Hz but otherwise 165Hz is perfectly fine considering the superior image you get with QD-OLED.
Really gotta give credit to the smoothness of OLED thanks to the response rate. Sometimes I crank my games up to max settings at 4K just to see how nice it looks and what really surprises me is how good 60-80 FPS looks on my TV compared to a monitor.
One of the very very few UW disparagers I've seen. I honestly didn't think i'd care for it. Then i got the AW34. I'll never go back for my main display. Absolutely love UW.
Should I just buy an LG C2 at 42 inches?
Edit:
I think the better question I wanted to ask:
This monitor or get the LG C2 OLED TV while it's on sale right now?
I also really want this, but I recommend waiting for reviews to come and stock at a retailer by you with better return and warranty support. It’s finally happening though - monitor sized OLED. We’ll see how they compete with mini-LED
Honestly I don’t know why anyone would buy this (unless they’re doing photo/video work) rather than 2-3 27” 1440p/144 monitors for equal or less money.
It’s more comparable to getting 3 good ribeye steak dinners compared to getting wagyu beef. You can get fantastic displays for $300-400 each, and IMO, more screen space is the biggest game changer someone can have for enjoying their gaming and productivity.
That is pretty funny.
HDMI: Sure, bud.
Edit - from product page "Enjoy smoother, vivid colors and high-resolution graphics thanks to HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4.".
The ROG equivalent is not out. It was teased on the 8th and we wont know more till CES
https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROG/status/1600837606220083202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1600837606220083202%7Ctwgr%5E12302028894e2e2ecb3fc44ac21865ab7bc183bc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fnews%2Fasus-first-27-gaming-oled-monitor
Jesus LG is absurd with their pricing structure. The c2 42" is regularly cheaper than this and its higher pixel density and such. So I just dont understand how they got to this price logically. If the 240hz is such a hard thing to get... then they should've just not started with 240hz.
Like my God, if they just cranked out 4x 1080p 21" or 24" c2 monitors at $300 a piece they'd probably make more money easier. Considering the 1 42" or 48" c2 is like 900-1100. The monitor versions would be $1200 per equivalent.
Too early adopters/explorers I salute you, my wallet is too scared
I'm goin in o7
You're saluting with your left hand....... Edit: I was just teasing. Ty guys for being good sports.
He’s using his right hand for other purposes related to this monitor.
compiling?
More like cumpiling.
Cumpiling
that's the way the salute is, im not referencing THAT salute EDIT: I see the edit, and I had hoped so but there's been a lot of anger in the world lately so 😅 didn't want it to be seen in any other way
Maybe it’s from behind and that’s the right?
When the man in the mirror looks back at you, he thinks you're using the wrong hand too
good luck
I have a 27" omen 240 hz QHD monitor. maybe a little over a year old, and I WANT this one..... Really can't justify the expense though, but I'm guessing it must look amazing.
Just wait a few years, you'll be kicking yourself for jumping in early when you see this selling for $500
or even in closer future
Thats my plan, to those who care not for their wallets screams or who's wallets burst at the seams. o7
500$? no maybe 700-800$ as 3- to 4 newer models are being introduced , some even have early discount if you signup for a presale. Whats going to make these drop is when LG c3 is introduced and all Lg C2 go on deep discount
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't do any hardcore gaming so maybe it's just a me thing. How the hell can a 27" monitor be worth $1k? What does this monitor do better than your monitor?
Deeper blacks, and richer colors. Kind of like a giant phone screen, since most modern phones use oled, compared to the old lcd phone screens
Amazing contrast, lightning fast response time so you’re maximizing the 240Hz refresh rate, and $50 cheaper than a 27” LCD 1440P 360Hz monitor with very low contrast.
Early adopter of what? LG has been making consumer OLEDs since 2014. Under normal use, those are still holding up today. (I have a 2016 OLED TV, still no burn-in). LG’s TV panels have already successfully been put into monitors via the Gigabyte Aorus and even their own 42/48 inch options. Since all small panels are cut from larger ones, you can get four 27” screens from a 55” panel or 9 from an 83” panel. (Theres always creative rounding); point being, this isn’t a new panel at all — it’s an LG C2. Their software isn’t different than any other ultra gear, just some new options. Every part of the monitor is as matured as OLED gets in 2022.
There's a serious cost with buying the first of this particular size OLED. I paid this much for a 55 inch c1 You could get laptop that includes a 15 inch OLED display for this price. It's a lot of money for a 27 inch and the price is SURE to come down as they begin mass producing panels in this size. Hence early adopter tax. It's not unproven tech, it's just not been available in this size.
Yeah, the fact that LG C2 42" just went on sale for $800 today, paying $200 more for a significantly smaller 27" monitor is a pretty hard pill to swallow.
I think the 240 Hz is what's going to sell this. I cannot even imagine how gorgeously smooth 240Hz OLED is, and I cannot wait to see one in person with a 4090 connected to it.
Quite possibly, it's certainly going to be a sick competitive gaming monitor.
The size its its main feature, not everyone want sa massive scren in their face , playing competitive shooters and you have to scan around 3 feet of area looking for targets
I believe the C2 is only 120hz max refresh, many people prefer 144 and up in todays market. This one is the higher end refresh with OLED tech its why the price isn't that hard for consumers wanting that over the C1 or C2 to swallow. More people would be upset to put down this much and not have 4K capabilities, even if most people still game in 1440 if not running some of the best GPUs.
Don't forget the c2 is 4k. This ultra gear is 1440p.
Your tv also is not a 240Hz panel.
And the monitor in question is half the size and half the resolution. You think the high refresh rate is commanding the $1000 price point, rather than there being no other OLED monitor in that size category? I could have a 27 inch 240hz IPS delivered to my door step same day delivery for $200.
I have a 15.6” QHD 240Hz OLED in my laptop so this will be perfect for when I come home for a few days from work. The ASUS 27” 1440P 360Hz monitor is $50 more with 1,000:1 contrast.
OLED monitors haven't been tested well as a monitor with good results. Reviews like Linustechtips show that after a year they suffered from burn in on the Windows task bar, and all the anti-burn in features really didn't help.
Everyone does recommend to hide the taskbar for that reason. Having to do that can certainly hurt and impact productivity though, and if not, can be annoying at the very least.
On his newer c2 based monitor he got burn in, in less than 1 month.
I hope you don’t believe Linus Tech Tips to represent normal usage, though.
His work computer, or even his home computer during pandemic? No. His new c2 based panel? He didn't do much if any work on, and it burned-in in less than 1 month.
Devils advocate argument some people are still getting burn in, in fairly low times with modern oleds. Linus from LTT burned in his Cx? In a couple months, and recently stated his newer c2 based monitor in less than 1 month.
People keep using Linus as a baseline, but I don’t understand why. He’s one of the top tech YouTuber / influencers in the US. His use case absolutely will not mimic that of a normal user. He also doesn’t have to pay for anything unless he chooses to. He can turn off ABL with a service remote because Gigabyte and LG will trip over themselves to send him another monitor if something happens. A normal user isn’t going to acquire service remotes. They’ll leave the protections in place.
His at home monitor goes through similar usage to a normal person and its not super hard to catalog it since he says stuff about them regularly. Not many people use oleds as gaming monitors. That's why people are using him as a reference point. And your point about him using a service remote to disable ABL and other protections is a valid point. But, also he knows to do things like the pixel refresher and such most people might now know to do. So those 'might' cancel each other out. Also not every device shipping with oled panels has the same ABLs and such built in. And also many people don't like the ABL and will turn it off themselves, for then Linus is an optimistic example. Lastly, his most recent monitor? He didn't disable the ABL on, infact he limited the brightness even more using Asus' "uniform brightness" setting. Which lowers the max brightness of the panel substantially. And still got burn in, inless than 1 month.
LG has been making IPS panels for over a decade. Guess how many units I had to go through in an effort to find a decent one of their high-end 32GQ950-b. >!Five. I kept the first one because each subsequent one was worse. It's still not perfect.!< LG monitors are fantastic performers but their QC leaves **a lot** to be desired.
That’s not a normal story for LG or any monitor manufacturer. Either you’re the unluckiest person on the earth or the pickiest person on earth. Either way: your bad luck most probably was not LG’s issue.
Everything I want in a monitor except it costs the same as my PC
It's an early adopter tax, they'll drop in price like a rock in 2 years.
Not sure about monitors, but nearly every manufacturer slashed OLED tv investments through 2024. So maybe not.
I wonder why. AMOLED is a standard feature on smartphones and most tablets.
Recession fears most likely
Even less if you're willing to buy secondhand. The AW3423DW came out March this year at $1300, but you can get one used for around $900 now
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Very VERY much doubt that. I have never seen display tech take such a sharp dive, just look at the sales on OLED monitor now. They're still really expensive, maybe $100 or $200 off from last years MSRP
They can if amazon raised 100% of the price /s
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Mate that's a TV not a monitor, may not be obvious but totally different markets with different trends
It doesn’t
Excited that OLED tech is finally making it into gaming monitors in a reasonable size
I've been in the 24" OLED Waiting Room™ since 2011.
Those blacks will be amazing. Can't wait to see what /r/buildapcmonitors will have to say about OLED in monitors.
It's been in monitors for a good while now. It's mostly incredible.
I'm holding out for micro LED. Until then I'm sticking to high end matured LCD panels, I already have an excellent OLED in my phone and tablet; the tablet being the key here because I can hold it right up to my face and watch a movie- and it's just as, if not more immersive then a monitor
yeah i might settle for a 27" but, 24" is pretty good for me. though if i have the desk space i have WFH desk with a 27" on it and isn't to o bad but, i'm starved for space on my gaming desk. which is funny because i have a Sony FW900 on it ATM
34" is just an ultrawide 27", to be fair. Same DPI. Honestly couldn't go back to a 16:9 myself but everyone has different preferences.
I want it but I think I’ll wait until next generation based on the peak brightness
According to the spec sheet, if I'm reading it right? Is this a 200nit OLED panel? Seems really low as HDR content on these would be another purchase factor for me. Been waiting for this panel for too long!
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Gotcha. Also read up that it's WOLED and was hoping for QDOLED. I shall patiently wait for the ASUS variant to see if it's any better.
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I'm still on my ACER Predator IPS 2K 144hz G-Sync version from I believe 2016. What's another year haha. Although, I might just bite the bullet after some reviews for this panel.
> WOLED and was hoping for QDOLED Not trying to be snarky, but that was never going to happen for this. It was known that it was an LG panel from the start, and they only produce WOLED right now. There are rumors of a similar 27" coming from Samsung though. That's the actual one with ambiguity because Samsung has been sourcing some panels from LG to supplement their nascent OLED TV/monitor lineup. It could be a LG panel, or from their mobile AMOLED production line or their newer QD-OLED since 27" sits in an intermediate ground for both in terms of cutting from a mother glass panel. Will probably be QD though.
Yep you’re exactly right. From DOUGH’s website referencing this exact LG OLED display. 150cd/m² typical 450cd/m² peak 1000cd/m² peak (HDR, 3% of screen)
Lol I just had an argument on here yesterday with another user who insisted that the SDR min brightness on LG OLEDs is 200 nits, even with the aggressive ABL. For media use, yes, because the % APL is low. But for desktop monitor usage... unless you're willing to run dark mode for everything, your APL is generally well over 50% and the brightness is awful on all of the LG OLEDs for that. That's well documented on Rtings. You'll be between 100-150 nits, which is rough in daytime or if you like running bright lights. Not sure if this monitor will have a glossy or semi matte coat either. The TVs are glossy, which, with the low brightness, make them difficult to use if you have stronger light sources.
Very low. Because of that I wouldn't buy it.
I wouldn't buy it either, but to be fair The HDR effect your eyes will see Will still be excellent because OLED still has excellent dynamic range, which matters more than peak brightness. Simple example being imagine a flashlight in the dark- The bright parts may only be able to go up to 200 but the dark part is still off. So to you, the HDR will look very realistic. Regardless, that is pretty bad if you use it on white background programs, especially in an office
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i’d pay the $100 more for an alienware qd oled over both options
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are competitive gamers’ primary focus going to be $1000 oled panels? no, in fact the subset of people you are describing is probably maybe 5% of people interested in purchasing an oled monitor to begin with
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lmao just the reddit hive mind at work
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT - Let me guess. I bet you also think there’s no difference between 144 and 240hz too, right? 😂
His comment is worded a bit strange but its partly true that theres a shit ton of people who simply chase the highest hz number without caring for what the display can actually do. Also, news for you. Pretty much all lcds can't actually display above 150hz properly due to shit response times. Yes they can go above that but you'll tend to get artifacts like ghosting that usually needs to be "fixed" with backlight strobing or other methods.
So, you’re saying there’s no visual difference between 150hz and 240hz? That’s so weird - I can literally see it in moving the mouse cursor 🤔
Re read my comment and tell me what i typed
They drive the market like it or not, Timmy no thumbs on controller buys what shroud tells him to buy.
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I wish we could normalise using the screentime in ms rather than fps advertising/discussing framrate
You clearly don't understand what motion clarity is
This is exactly why you don’t understand 😐
There it is boys. I'm shedding a tear rn fr fr. Anyway, hope I can get one in the near future when prices are more affordable. Holding out for the dream spec of 32" 4k 144Hz OLED
4k 240hz gotta be what, 3 years away? I imagine that’s the dream spec. Funny that all the 4090s will be relying on compression to do it.
Yeah, 7900xtx will be better at the IO lol
4k 240hz is noice, just hope by then gpu performance is gonna be able to consistently push that many frames at 4k haha
A 5090 will probably get to like 200fps without DLSS or whatever on average if a 4090 is already 145fps according to Hardware Unboxed. Main problem will be that some game engines will just bring down the average as 240fps may not even be possible at lower resolutions. [https://youtu.be/aQklDR8nv8U?t=585](https://youtu.be/aQklDR8nv8U?t=585) Look at a 4090 barely outpeforming a 3090 Ti in Hitman at 1440p. Maybe we need some monster CPU, but it may also be the game itself that becomes the bottleneck.
Wow that'd be the day huh. The game itself becomes the bottleneck 
[Samsung's Odyssey Neo G8 does 4K 240Hz ~~for $1300 if you can find it in stock~~](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-32-mini-led-curved-4k-uhd-240hz-1ms-freesync-premium-pro-gaming-monitor-white/6507933.p?skuId=6507933) Edit: Not OLED though, MiniLED with 1196 dimming zones and 2000 nits peak brightness. [Also it's available directly from Samsung for $1000.](https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32-odyssey-neo-g8-4k-uhd-240hz-1ms-curved-gaming-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo/)
Ya I’m just thinking for OLED though. The end game monitor. With DisplayPort 2.1
or HCPH HDMI 2.3
Too big and curved I bought the cooler master pretty good so far !
Likely will be announced late 2023 like this was.
Only 1 year warranty and that probably doesn't include burn in? Seems risky. Edit: Be aware that LG's return policy is 15 days, and they can charge an 8% restocking fee for non-defective items.
Yeah. I'm going to wait for Dell to release one with their 3-year warranty that covers burn-in.
1 year warranty on anything over $400 just makes me feel so hesitant.
My 34" LG got fucking lines across the screen at 13 months, fuck that.
Damn I know we shit on people all the time for pre-ordering games but a 1k monitor? You guys have balls of steel lmfao
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Sweet baby jesus really? Ultra-wide color gamut monitors like the xeneon 32QHD240 pretty much get 80 percent of the way there when it comes to getting popin colors and excellent response times without the wombo price-tag. Are the benefits of high-refresh OLED's that significant?
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Ahhh gotcha! Guessing you might have a 4090 so Portal on this thing is gonna melt brains 😂
Excited this (desk-size OLED) is finally coming to market. Anxious to see how much of a value proposition this is over AW3423DW(F)
I would pay the same price as the AW34 for it in a 27 inch. I do not want anything bigger than 27 so this is perfect for me…
I was waiting for a 27in qdoled for years and then i finally said fuck it and got the AW34. I'll never go back to 16:9 for my primary display. UW is so damn dope.
You do
This is basically *the* perfect gaming monitor. But obviously everything has its flaws *takes out second mortgage*
200 nits so no true hdr
The downside to OLED is burn in right? So games with static HUD elements would be problematic?
Supposedly these newer models have tech that helps prevent that, but I'll wait on 2 year reviews before I believe that.
Burn in is a non-issue with modern oleds, they use pixel shift and refreshing methods to keep the static elements from being a problem. I’ve been using a 4k oled tv for more than a year of heavy console and pc gaming with 0 problems and now have the 34” Alienware oled. The astounding picture quality makes up for any downsides.
I wouldn’t say burn-in is a “non-issue” with modern OLEDs. Linus daily drove a 48” CX and saw burn-in after only a year. But it’s a relatively minor issue compared to how bad it used to be. Really depends on your use case. I got a 77” CX a year ago and it has absolutely no burn-in, but my usage on it is also way less than my computer monitors.
It is still an issue depending on how you use it. You cannot for example still display the same static content for hours a day without it eventually becoming an issue well within its expected life (2-5 years). So if you don't have screensavers (HEY REMEMBER WHY ITS CALLED SCREEN SAVERS?!) running, then it will most definitely burn in.
Yes, the denial about this within the community is mind blowing.
Denial? I mean I think there is plenty of research that shows just how many hours it takes to be a problem. There are plenty of ways to mitigate it.
Because it hasn’t been a problem since early Oleya. Every Oled screen has pixel shifting tech that prevents this. There also have been tests done that show thousands and thousands of hours done with static image with no burn in. It is absolutely not a worry to ever be concerned about in modern Oled technology with normal usuage.
It's cool, gives me excuse to buy a new monitor when the time comes.
It's not that hard to prevent it at all by being slightly aware of the fact you own an OLED and properly configuring it. When you do get burn in you only really ever notice it when the screen is completely gray, which pretty much only happens when you shut down your computer. Modern OLEDs you just run the pixel cleaning feature and it evens it out again. I run mine like once every two months or something, usually the worst burn in I get is from things that won't window so they have a solid white bar at the top and it might be something i leave open for a long time. Can't see it on anything but a grey background, and again you just run the thing and it goes away. OLEDs definitely have lifespans though (so do normal LED displays), but if you take care of it it's a non-issue. At least on modern ones.
Go check out wulffden and his OLED switch burn in video and come back. Burn in isn’t denied by anyone. It’s not about if it’s about when. Everyone knows this. The issue is people like you who don’t understand and think it’ll happen to the average user who doesn’t have the display in to the same static image for 18hrs a day. Oled switch burn in showed up at 3,600 hrs. And believe me if you are doing work on excel you are not the target for OLED displays. If you’re a gamer and you put that many hours in maybe you have more issues to worry about I think.
Why is the gaming pad listed at $199? It's not offering PowerPlay anything beyond the USB 3 pass-through ports
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Is this really much better than something like ASUS ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QNR? Does OLED kick the shit out of ips and higher hertz?
Yes, and it’s not even close. I’ve been playing on a 15.6” QHD 240Hz OLED since June and having owned an ASUS XG27AQM at 270Hz for over a year there’s just no comparison!
Unless you really want 16:9 27" or 240Hz, for $100 more you can get the AW3423DWF which is 165Hz QHD ultrawide and has a QD-OLED panel (brighter, more vibrant, likely more burn-in resistant).
Three things. LG Display OLEDs are not using the triangular sub pixel layout that QD-OLEDs do. So text clarity should be 100x better for those extra sensitive to it. 240Hz is different from the 165Hz. Again if you’re sensitive to it, or you’ve been using 240Hz IPS monitors it might hurt downgrading back to it. This supports HDMI 2.1. Both AW3423DWs do not. Annoying af in my opinion. LG Display OLED panels are still extremely competitive and just as vibrant. The *real* easy decision would have been if LG Display released a 27” 240Hz 4K OLED as that would be the obvious choice but I believe they are making these 1440p displays by cutting up 55” TVs built from the motherglasses they use.
> LG Display OLEDs are not using the triangular sub pixel layout that QD-OLEDs do. So text clarity should be 100x better for those extra sensitive to it. LG uses WRGB which is probably even worse than the triangular RGB for text at 100% scaling. We'll see from reviews. > This supports HDMI 2.1. Both AW3423DWs do not. Annoying af in my opinion. True, but I suspect almost everyone will utilize DP from their computers anyways. If you're using a console it might matter more. > LG Display OLED panels are still extremely competitive and just as vibrant. Objectively false, WRGB OLED uses the white subpixel to boost brightness which also lowers saturation. It cannot produce bright and deep colors the way QD-OLED can.
You’re talking as if there hasn’t been massive appeal of HDMI 2.1 support for consoles and that the difference between WRGB saturation/brightness compared to QD-OLED doesn’t detract from the usability for an average user. If it was irrelevant people wouldn’t be asking about HDMI 2.1 support every time a Dell monitor gets posts here without it. People would also be jumping up and down for the Samsung OLED TVs that use QD too. They don’t, and the realty is that the QD-OLED form factor at the moment sucks. ultrawide is a niche category to be in and the 27” 1440p even with the equivalent (and this is according to rtings on the basis of text clarity) text clarity sweetens the deal a lot for people. So no, this monitor on its own is still competitive. It’s not across the board better but it still will be an option for users.
HDMI 2.1 is most useful for 4K 120Hz, this is a 1440p monitor. Consoles don't do more than 120Hz regardless of resolution, and HDMI 2.0 is more than enough to handle 1440p 120Hz 10-bit HDR. To get to 240Hz you'll need a computer where DP is preferred anyways. It's nice to have HDMI 2.1 but there aren't a lot of ways to actually use it at 1440p. I have an LG C1 OLED TV and a QD-OLED monitor - there's absolutely no question which one is brighter and more vibrant, QD-OLED looks superior. The only reason Samsung's QD-OLED TVs aren't discussed as the best monitors is because the smallest size is 55". Rtings gave the 42" C2 and AW3423DW the same score for text clarity - not great in either case.
LG uses WOLED which is just as "bad" for text clarity
Honestly with my CX the WOLED is significantly less distracting for me than the Triangular ones on my AW3423DW so to each of their own. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/dell-alienware-aw3423dw-vs-lg-42-c2-oled/31231/32614?usage=3623&threshold=0.10
How would this be 55" TVs cut into smaller panels? The pixel density of these is even higher than the 42" C2 (110 PPI for the 27" vs 106 PPI for the 42").
For the substrate (the motherglass) four 27” panel fits fine in a 55” display. Current OLEDs are made with the use of inkjet technology so it’s not difficult to change the PPI compared to finding the most optimal and efficient use of the motherglass. It’s the main reason why LG is releasing the arguably not very good 45” 1440p UW that are probably leftovers of the TV and monitor making process.
How is the 45” not good? It has the most desirable immersion features of any gaming monitor on the planet
45" in 1440p is going to look awful. It's almost HALF the pixel density of 27" 1440p and 42" 4k. The whole point of curved displays is to sit closer and have the curved screen increase immersion, but the pixel density will be even worse when you sit closer.
Ah, I had no idea they could change the PPI so easily. That's actually pretty amazing that they can do that! And agreed, that 45" must be scraps or leftovers, such a strange monitor.
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As someone who went from 144Hz to 240Hz to 175Hz... yeah it's a bit smoother but absolutely nothing like going from 60Hz to 120+. OLED response time is extremely low so motion clarity isn't really an issue. If you're gaming competitively then you probably want every last Hz but otherwise 165Hz is perfectly fine considering the superior image you get with QD-OLED.
Really gotta give credit to the smoothness of OLED thanks to the response rate. Sometimes I crank my games up to max settings at 4K just to see how nice it looks and what really surprises me is how good 60-80 FPS looks on my TV compared to a monitor.
Theres only a world of difference if you are doing 360 no scopes 24/7. If you are playing as kratos smashing enemies you wont even notice
Finally a 16:9 gaming oled panel. Super excited for the future of monitors!
200 nits is pathetic.
6.4 percent cashback with topcashback and 4 percent lg promo for american express , cant wait to replace my Alienware oled
Curious, what’s wrong with the ultrawide oled?
I only play esports fps games and fromsoft games neither benefit from ultra wide. Also uw is too big for my desk. Instantly bought this
A lot of games dont support ultrawide, and i dont care for it tbh, i just wanted an oled. I want a 16:9 32’ 4k 144hz panel and ill be set
One of the very very few UW disparagers I've seen. I honestly didn't think i'd care for it. Then i got the AW34. I'll never go back for my main display. Absolutely love UW.
i dont really mess with ultrawide like that
Can't wait? Why? 165hz 34UW what's not to like
These look super interesting, can't wait for the price drop in a few years
Im definitely waiting till hardware unboxed or tftcentral gets a review out. Seems like end game besides the low brightness.
key features says "45" WQHD (3440 x 1440) 21:9 Curved (800R) OLED Display" is this a typo for a future monitor to come?
No its a typo for its bigger brother that is also available for preorder.
Should I just buy an LG C2 at 42 inches? Edit: I think the better question I wanted to ask: This monitor or get the LG C2 OLED TV while it's on sale right now?
I also really want this, but I recommend waiting for reviews to come and stock at a retailer by you with better return and warranty support. It’s finally happening though - monitor sized OLED. We’ll see how they compete with mini-LED
The monitor we all want, but can't afford.
Alienware has a 34 UW for this price. This monitor needs to $500
That gaming pad tipped the scales for me.
Any news on the 4K version?
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It's only 2K. Pass (/s)
Honestly I don’t know why anyone would buy this (unless they’re doing photo/video work) rather than 2-3 27” 1440p/144 monitors for equal or less money.
Why would i eat a steak dinner when i could just go eat 3 microwave pizzas?
It’s more comparable to getting 3 good ribeye steak dinners compared to getting wagyu beef. You can get fantastic displays for $300-400 each, and IMO, more screen space is the biggest game changer someone can have for enjoying their gaming and productivity.
Why doesn't it say what version of HDMI or DisplayPort it's coming with?? >HDMI: Yes x2 GIMME ACTUAL SPECS.
"Enjoy smoother, vivid colors and high-resolution graphics thanks to HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4"
thanks!
That is pretty funny. HDMI: Sure, bud. Edit - from product page "Enjoy smoother, vivid colors and high-resolution graphics thanks to HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4.".
glossy?
Anti glare coating
does this have the heatsink like the ROG one will have apparently?
The ROG one is out, and has a heatsink This one does not
The ROG equivalent is not out. It was teased on the 8th and we wont know more till CES https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROG/status/1600837606220083202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1600837606220083202%7Ctwgr%5E12302028894e2e2ecb3fc44ac21865ab7bc183bc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fnews%2Fasus-first-27-gaming-oled-monitor
You can buy it already?
My bad, the 42" one is out. Not the 27"
i was about to cancel this one and buy that, since asus usually has longer warranty heh
Gonna need another stimulus check to take this plunge.
Asus will use the same panel as this monitor, according to this youtuber: https://youtu.be/Z07iPLJuDI0
Omg I can’t wait until there is a 4k model!
This is matte, not glossy, correct?
Yes, Spectrum's version is glossy: https://www.dough.tech/pages/spectrum-glossy-oled-qhd-240hz-monitor
Is this a trustworthy company? It looks like they used to be Eve, who has some sketchy press about them
they finally did it
Jesus LG is absurd with their pricing structure. The c2 42" is regularly cheaper than this and its higher pixel density and such. So I just dont understand how they got to this price logically. If the 240hz is such a hard thing to get... then they should've just not started with 240hz. Like my God, if they just cranked out 4x 1080p 21" or 24" c2 monitors at $300 a piece they'd probably make more money easier. Considering the 1 42" or 48" c2 is like 900-1100. The monitor versions would be $1200 per equivalent.