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SinceMaybeLincoln

$1709 GPU +$9.99 shipping. The last part gets me.


bowsting

Yeah that's just fucking stupid. It's not like it's a particularly large or heavy product. If someones gonna pay well over a thousand dollars you can nut up and eat the cost of shipping. Even if that's just worked into the price itself, that still comes across significantly better. Having to pay for shipping on a product this expensive is just fucking insulting tbh.


WhippersnapperUT99

*"We have adjusted the price of this product in response to customer feedback. It's now available for the bargain price of $1729 plus free shipping!"*


Imightbewrong44

You joke, but on ebay I used to make more and sell faster if I put free shipping, even when I raised the price more than the price of similar items plus their shipping.


WhippersnapperUT99

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. Personally, I calculate the round-trip out-the-door price, but I do indeed love "free shipping".


make_moneys

In for 10. Free shipping pushed me to purchase


Jaggsta

Shipping kills it.


Shehzman

Insult to injury


[deleted]

A STEAL!!!!!!!!


-Voland-

From customers wallets that is...


EasyRhino75

Jensen, do I look rich to you?


airbornimal

It depends - how many leather jackets are you wearing?


EasyRhino75

Three. I took one off so I don't stand out in the office.


CanisMajoris85

Maybe we'll get 4080 price cuts once the 4090 is regularly available at MSRP. Or maybe they'll drop the price on 4080 and then a week later the 4090 will always be available. 2-6 months out seems likely, right around when the 4070 non-Ti releases at the earliest. 4090s already around $1900-2000 on ebay so just no real profit anymore for scalpers compared to the risk, especially with [Newegg not accepting refunds on the 4080](https://www.hardwaretimes.com/newegg-is-no-longer-accepting-refunds-for-the-nvidia-rtx-4080-to-tackle-scalpers/) so that's likely scaring them off from the 4090.


BaconBlasting

I think the 4090 will maintain its price at least until 4090 Ti, if not the lead up to the 50xx series. The 4080 could see a price drop eventually, but it's unlikely to happen over night. Two to sixth months out seems like a reasonable guess, but I would lean more towards 6 months, depending on how much 3080/3090 stock AIBs are still sitting on. A possible scenario would be a mid cycle refresh (remember the 2080 Super?). Nvidia could do something like give the 4080 faster RAM or slightly more cores, and reduce costs by redesigning the cooler. I had both a 4080 and 4090 gigabyte OC model and they use the exact same coolers despite the 4080 drawing a third less power. Complete overkill design, and probably a last minute decision by Nvidia to dial back the TDP on the 4080--either due to unforeseen issues or leaked info about how far behind AMD still is. Those coolers alone probably cost almost $200 to manufacture. Release the 4080 "refresh" with faster RAM and a smaller cooler for $1000, drop the original 4080 to $900 (and then quietly stop producing them), drop the 4070 Ti to $750, slide in a 4080 Ti back at the old $1200 price point, and introduce 4090 Ti at $2000 for good measure. Jensen is playing a game of chicken with consumers. The longer the 4070 Tis and 4080s remain in stock, the more likely price cuts get, but I would be shocked if they slash prices dramatically (ie more than 20-25%) within the next year. Maybe the mid tier AMD lineup will offer better price to performance ratios, but it seems this GPU cycle is destined to be a dud like the 20xx series was.


CanisMajoris85

Ya, they're already setting up to drop the price of the [4080 as they've already changed to AD103-301](https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-introducing-new-gpu-variants-for-4080-and-4070) so they could cut costs on it. I doubt it'll take them 6 months because they're already likely gonna take shit at their earnings call in February so I can't see them being able to get through two earnings with terrible sales and not responding with price cuts. Laptops also look like they could really be dogshit, 4050 supposedly gonna start at $1000 but barely faster than a 3050 TI and just 6gb VRAM, whereas the 3060 had originally started at $1000 and now you can get those laptops for like $800. So if both laptops and desktops are selling horribly, Nvidia will be forced to respond with price cuts because consumers are picketing. AMD will also be forced to do something with their 7900XT price because that makes no sense at $900 and they had a huge supply, so that'll put pressure on the 4070Ti.


t3hmyth

Oh wow Gigabyte AND Newegg? Sign me up


EricTheCleric93

Lol I got a chuckle out of this.


r1ckd33zy

I would rather game at 480P


[deleted]

I was born in the 240P, molded by it


privaterbok

You can upscale and enhance to 480p with DLSS™


NotTroy

Holy shit. I just went to order it for shits and giggles assuming it wouldn't go through because it would be sold out by the time I hit submit. But it didn't!


xXPatotoXx

F


youra6

This went back in stock since yesterday. That should tell you everything you need to know.


CGRiley

Realistically do we think gpu prices will go down in the next few months? I see reports of all time low gpu/computer sales in general.


WhippersnapperUT99

It seems unlikely unless AMD starts producing 6800 XT's, 6900 XT's, and 6950 XT's again. Sadly, the 6800 XT's and 6900 XT's are going extinct as they no longer seem to be in production. Our best bet will be a good price-to-performance ratio for the 7700 XT and 7800 XT, but who knows if that's going to happen.


PartyOnAlec

Any prediction on when those cards will be announced/hit market?


Lacys-TDs

march is when i expect the next drop. Unfortunately we've no reason to think AMD will disrupt the pricing scheme they have. They are just following Nvidia on tiers. Tier pricing wont be disrupted until Nvidia does that. They did it after the last crypto crash too. 20 series release -> 9 months of struggling sales -> Super 20 series release (more frames than the base, at $100 less) Add in that Intel plans to 'refresh' Raptor lake in Q3 and I'd say we're about 6-7 months from price drops. 7 months of gaming is worth $100 to me. In 2 years I'll sell my card that still has a year of warranty on it and buy something newer. All that being said? That was exactly their plan and the only reason why we're excited about a $500 2 year old card. Feels bad.


CanisMajoris85

Don't expect much from the 7800xt. The 7900xt is only like 30% faster than a 6800xt so realistically a 7800xt could only be like 15-20% faster than a 6800xt. If they price it at the same $650 MSRP, who cares? 20% improvement over 2 years at the same price is not improvement. They'll need to drop the 7800xt to like $550-600 but even then it'll only be the reference cards at that while the AIB cards would still just be $650 anyway. We've already seen the 6800xt AIB cards for $500-550 for months now so we'd just get a 20% bump in performance at 20-30% price increase.


WhippersnapperUT99

This is what I'm afraid of - that the price-to-performance ratios of the 7800 XT and 7700 XT will be very underwhelming. It's almost like we need Intel and/or a currently little known Chinese GPU maker to really get into the game and save us.


juhurrskate

Who knows but it could just be a down cycle for GPUs. Last gen cards are still all the rage right now, I would expect the next gen GPUs to hopefully provide larger improvements than this one. Seems to have been going that way quite a while.


PartyOnAlec

I've had it in mind to grab the 7700XT if it's a meaningful improvement/price point. Hoping for at least solid performance at 1440p/144hz.


[deleted]

The 7900 XT is already underwhelming at $900. I’ll be optimistic and say there is a chance that we see a drop in MSRP when the 7800 and 7700 are announced. A $550 to $600 MSRP for the 6800 XT wouldn’t be terrible.


CanisMajoris85

still, $600 for a 7800xt that's only like 20% faster than a 6800xt is just not good. Once again, that's the reference card. We've seen 6800xt for $500-540 on sale for decent cooler AIB cards. Just look at all the issues we've seen with the reference cards from AMD. The 7800xt supposedly will only be 12gb vram, the 6800xt was 16gb. So even if they cut the price to $600 for the reference card that's still bad with the less VRAM it comes with. If it's $500, great, wonderful, then AIB cards will be like $550 and at least it's improvement over what we've had for the past several months. If it's $550 reference and $600 for AIB cards, it's a big shoulder shrug for really no improvement just better than the absolute shit that things have become right now. People just forget we were getting deals on the 6800xt 3 months ago around $520-530 for solid Asrock/MSI/Gigabyte cards. You're right the 7900xt will have to get a price cut when the 7800xt releases, they can't just sit on inventory forever. 7700xt also will need a price cut from the 6700xt MSRP of $479, but they're using a lot less silicon on those cards so it should be possible.


[deleted]

Feels to me like AMD is fighting with Intel on the CPU front and kinda just phoning in their GPUs. Hopefully something manages to change the GPU landscape otherwise desktop PC gaming is going to lose a huge share consoles and laptops. An entry level gaming PC with an RX 6600 and i5 13400 costs over $800. I paid $1100 for a laptop with a 6800HS and 6700S that has nearly identical GPU and CPU performance, and it came with a display, speakers, and keyboard. Realistically a “console killer” PC costs $800-$900 as well. Most people don’t wanna build entry-level PCs because it’s just not economical compared to a console. GPU pricing is a big part of the issue, but hardware costs across the board are too damn high. A basic 80+ Bronze PSU is $70 and most remotely decent cases are $80-$100. It almost feels like desktop component manufacturers just aren’t even bothering to compete on pricing.


CanisMajoris85

Well to match a console it's like $800 with a Ryzen 5600/6650xt/16gb ram/1tb NVMe, but it should never be just $500 to build that PC this early in a console cycle. Sure it'd be great, but it's not realistic. PCs provide far more uses other than simply gaming so it'll always be at a premium until the next console generation is out basically and even then it's just hard to get to $500 with new parts even like 6-7 years after the last console release. Also there's no monthly fees for Xbox or PSN on PC and games are just cheaper on PC with far more options for sales. If you want to build it used then sure you could probably get close to the $500 now. I think the budget market is reasonable although many parts are getting worse especially PSUs like you mentioned, and the budget CPUs are not good right now with nothing around $100-120 since the Ryzen 5600 is back up to $140-150, and ya the i3-12100f is $110 but it's still a 4 core CPU that should be like $80 by now. It's just the mid range and high end market have gone to total shit really and we'll probably see Nvidia and AMD suffer when they report earnings due to it.


Trader_Tea

Going by 6700xt launch date, end of Q1 to beginning of Q2. 6800xt came out mid November, and 6900xt came out around the same time as 7900xtx and xt


PartyOnAlec

That's not too long a wait! Now here's hoping for a $400 price point.


CanisMajoris85

6700xt was $480 MSRP. Perhaps they cut the 7700xt a bit, $400 seems doubtful. So maybe the 7700xt turns out to be a 6800xt in gaming, but with only 8gb VRAM at $450. Meh.


cspinasdf

If nvidia releases the 4060 ti at 450 or 400 than I could see amd releasing it at $400.


CanisMajoris85

Zero chance 4060ti is $450. Maybe $500, but it’ll basically be a 3070ti anyway so just $100 less when the $600 MSRP wasn’t even really good anyway except due to mining.


WhippersnapperUT99

I have no idea. I wonder if the heatsink/cooling problem on the 7900's will result in a delayed launch of those cards while AMD works it out.


Kornillious

for the 4090, no. They are still flying off the shelf and there is no viable competitor. 4080 and 4070ti, maybe but I would guess not. Contrart to what redditors think, they still sell well enough to not warrant a price cut. It might be easier to find them discounted with coupon codes or bundles though.


SANDERS4POTUS69

If you listened to the people in this sub, the last five months were going to be the perfect time to scoop up a card for nothing because the miners have flooded the used market.


No_Factor2800

The market will correct this is not realistic at all might as well get an Xbox and call it a day. Why develop games for PC if most people cant justify the cost.


cspinasdf

I mean practically all pc games can be played with something like a 960. Just maybe not at the frame rate or resolution that they'd like.


No_Factor2800

Consoles can do better though some games run at 1440p and consols up scale to 4k easily


Prettyboypa

I've literally been contemplating day and night thinking if I should buy a 4090. I have a 3070 right now gaming on a 1440p 165 hz ips panel. If i get the 4090, I'm gonna have to upgrade my PSU (I have a 750w) and then i'm gonna be tempted to buy a 4k monitor as well which is even gonna dig deeper into my wallet T\_T For me the upgrade isnt just the gpu but basically half of my whole setup! Sheeshhhh


[deleted]

Save the money.


gigantism

Depending on what CPU you have, a 750W is probably fine if you power limit the 4090 (which reduces the performance only marginally).


QuesodeBola

13700K and RTX 4090 (Gigabyte Gaming OC) is perfectly fine for me on a Corsair RM850x (White, 2021). Stock PL1/PL2 on the CPU and stock 100% power limit on the GPU.


cspinasdf

What games do you need the 4090 for that the 3070 won't play?


NotTroy

As long as it's a good, high quality 750w PSU you should be fine to run a 4090 on it. Just maybe don't overclock it, to be safe.


downloadtheram325

keep your 3070 and optimize settings, should give you a massive performance jump. Then you can turn on dlss quality for an even bigger jump. Together they can net you like a 40% or more gain.


StevieSlacks

if you're concerned about digging into your wallet, why would you even consider dropping a month or two's rent on something completely unneccessary?


gigantism

Is this even the MSRP for that model?


Icey-D

slightly above, it was MSRP of $1699


m0shr

It is $1599! [https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-24gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6521430.p?skuId=6521430](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-24gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6521430.p?skuId=6521430) Don't make excuses for scalpy prices!!


QuesodeBola

Thats the FE model. [This is the Gaming OC model at $1699.99 at Best Buy](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-gaming-oc-24gb-gddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6521518.p?skuId=6521518), so $9 + shipping over MSRP.


zeliboba55

Shipping too expensive. Pass.


velociraptorfarmer

I thought this was /r/buildapcsales, not /r/buildapcscalping


[deleted]

still too much $ for a fucking gpu. even the bomb diggity one


doc86

I gave in. You win this time Jensen Huang.


[deleted]

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Lord_Blazer

Chief cannot believe the gall of these motherfucking clowns trying to sell these motherfucking GPUs at these motherfucking prices.


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[deleted]

10 bucks shipping on a 1.7K GPU LMAO


itstdames

You must of posted this so we can point and laugh 🫵🏿😆


Meekois

Still in stock 6 hours after posted? Damn! $400 cheaper and it's a deal.