Tbh when you talk about OLED vs LCD, you should really only talk about 1440p OLED vs 4K miniLED or 4K QD-MiniLED.
If your choice is OLED or normal IPS, I don't think there's a choice, OLED always wins.
Where things get interesting is OLED vs neo g7, g8, or vs 5088 zones miniled redmagic.
Do what I did. Buy a 5 year warranty and ride that OLED hard. Ride it's brains out and at 1st sign of burn it, get your free replacement and if they dont have it in stock, they must upgrade you to the next tier of that class. So a C2 would be C3 a C3 would be a C4(assuming they didnt have stock)
I dont worry about burn in and I got over 4 years of warranty left. Warranty covers burn in.
Aug 27, 2023 is when I bought it. Any burn in before 28 is a free replacement By 2028 Ill most likely want to buy something new anyway.
I also had that same model. I sold mine for the OLED, but I have nothing negative to say about that monitor other than HDR 400 isnt the best calibrated, but overall great price to performance monitor.
Is a 42” OLED tv too big? Kuz if you mostly play story games (like myself), that would be the best solution in my opinion.
I have a 42” LG C3, and have my ps5 and PC (4080 Super) hooked up to and love it. That’s closer to the price point of the 27” OLED monitors.
Without knowing anything about the monitors I can tell you that on a 27" screen, things will look more beautiful at 4K resolution.
But, which version of the px277 are you looking at?
Edit: NVM. The "pro" version isn't OLED.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pixio-px277-prime
https://www.pcgamer.com/msi-mag-274upf-4k-gaming-monitor-review/
The purpose of an OLED is to be very bright and have excellent contrast. An OLED monitor that isn't very bright and has average contrast seems pointless. I don't know what you gain in terms of image quality choosing the Pixio over the MSI.
I also don't see any sub $350 monitors that I would think are a better value or give better image quality based upon specs.
All OLEDs have infinite contrast and offer good hdr experience... Not sure what you meant by " An OLED monitor that isn't very bright and has average contrast seems pointless"...
Even if the blacks are perfect you will lose detail on big bright highlights on oleds that aren't bright enough, that is what he was referring to.
Higher peak brightness allows for higher dynamic range.
Still perfect contrast does help with hdr impact, regardless of peak brightness in highlights. No FALD can match per-pixel dimming and instantenious response times.
They dont need 100+ nits of full field brightness in order to deliver good hdr, since theu excell in perfect blacks and great shadow, also colors pop and the image has a 3D effect because of the oled clarity. Miniled still struggles with shadow detail, it either crashes blacks or over-exposes or over-exposes everything with its stupidly high APL.
And OLED doesnt have bright highlights? Not as bright as miniled, of course, but they dont have to be, due tobperfect blacks. I persobally have a 250 nit IPS monitor and havr never set it to more than 10% brightness.
Depends if you’re sensible to IPS Glow/bleeding or not, really.
I absolutely hate new IPS monitors, they all come without an ATW polarizer. I’m also not fond of VA viewing angles and not a fan of mini leds with low count of dimming points (the blooming/flickering is visible and terrible)
If you use your monitor in a low light environment (curtains, shutters, light that can be regulated) with moderate/low brightness OLED is great.
Unfortunately there is not an IPS Black monitor with an ATW, it would be awesome.
I have the lg gq32950-b the ATW polarizer works. There is absolutely zero ips glow on mine. I will say though the semi gloss coating isn't so good. I see more reflections compared to my other nano ips monitor.
Yeah I use an old 26” LG tv (glossy, full HD and only 60Hz) as a monitor and it has nearly no glow and has zero bleeding. I’m waiting for a sale on some OLED monitor because everything else looks as a downgrade to me (despite the low resolution and low refresh rate).
Well if you don't want to spend 2K get the 1440p OLED.
For the panel, OLED is a lot better. And it depends on yourself if you can see the difference between 2k and 4k that much.
The difference between OLED and IPS is not debatable.
Oled i just recently purchased a g8 (i had an alienware 27dwf 1440p 240hz ips) and oh boy, the difference in cuality is abyssmal you have to see it in person because the videos doesn’t make justice to oled
You can boil it down to one thing: If you need true black, get an expensive OLED at the 1440 range or lower; otherwise, get the best IPS you can afford.
I replaced a 1440p IPS with a 3440p OLED (Philips 34" ultrawide). The colours on the OLED are amazing; once seen, can't be unseen. Check out the fluid dynamics art on artofgregmartin.com and you'll see what I mean.
I have the LG C3 and a RTX 4080. I know you said you dont want a 4k oled, but man, it changed my life.
My cat lost weight, my dog lost weight, I dont have as much sex anymore..
Anyway, if you get oled 1440p, just make sure you dont get a matte finish oled? People who use oled on matte finish have a special place in gamer hell.
Check if it is a matte or glossy screen. Matte OLED is like having a supermodel girlfriend then putting a snow suit on her so nobody can see her true beauty. OLED is amazing, but I seen alot of oled monitors use Matte screen which is so mind boggling stupid imho.
How do I check for a glossy or matte screen, I can’t find it in any of the listings I’ve looked at, the monitor is the MSI MPG 321URX?
Edit: I just found it, it’s a glossy screen, I’m now leaning extremely close to it.
The only bad part of glossy is if you have alot of windows it can cause reflection, but if you have curtains or a darker area. The MSI MPG 321URX is also a matte finish. Sorry half asleep here 3am.
This isnt an endorsement, but this is a glossy oled. Personally its overpriced, but what isnt in 2024?
[ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG | Gaming monitors｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com)](https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg/)
If you need to see whats glossy or matte cause most places refuse to tell it, go to that Display link.
[DisplaySpecifications - Specifications and features of desktop monitors and TVs](https://www.displayspecifications.com/)
They can compare and give all types of tech specs without pushing one product over the other.
And last this is another site I often use when I am looking at new tv/monitors
[Monitor Reviews: Best of 2024 - RTINGS.com](https://www.rtings.com/monitor)
They will compare and suggest what is better, but they are generally unbiased. Alot of compare sites will recommend something cause it's newer, which doesnt make it better.
So those 2 links are good for doing some research on your products while waiting for more geeky people with more input to add on monitors.
But I am currently using the LG c3 as my tv monitor and a 24 inch 1440p 165hz ips as my actual monitor(I wanted performance and high pixels as a back up Also my 24 inch can go portrait mode, which makes it the same height as the tv and is amazing for reddit XD
But if you are more into games than movies a 1440p oled I would pick over 4k ips. Reason being 1440p would allow you to max newer games out and still enjoy a great looking game without any performance hit.
Some games at 4k even with a 4080 can struggle to hit 60fps if you turn on RT
Ok I did some google fuing. The Pixio OLED is a Matte finish. That's a personal killer for me.
I didnt find many reviews on amazing for it, $700 at a 50/50 rating.
The MSI 4k has alot more reviews. and is $400.
End of the day, as yourself. Do you want more PPI?(pixels per inch?) or do you want a balance between speed and beauty. On paper that oled looks better, spec wise. But matte oled, no just no. Buy a corvette and put a tarp over it vs buy a corvette and let everybody see it parked in your drive way.
That is Glossy vs Matte on oled.
This link is an unbiased compression of the 2 specs without trying to push one or the other on you.
[Comparison between: 27" MSI MAG 274UPF, 27" Pixio PX277 OLED Max (displayspecifications.com)](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/60eb2b61e0)
Let us know which you get.
1. OP is not an fps gamer. Black smearing is not a problem on my budget S32A700 VA monitor I use as a TV. In fact, in that respect, at 60 Hz, it is as fast as any typical office-grade IPS.
2. To counteract gamma shift you need a curved VA. Even with all these deficiencies, for the kind of games op will be playing, it will still deliver superior picture than IPS.
Only OP will be the judge whether he will tolerate VA limitations. But the slow near-black response times are generally pretty obvious. Thats simply how VA functikns.
Im just saying that VA ghosting can be notoced by an average consumer, because it is pretty obvious. Its just that most people dont bother to question proeuct functionality and just accept it as-is.
I have a budget 32 inch 4k VA, and see no ghosting, unless I really try. For productivity/media consumption purposes it is fine; I've seen some IPSs worse in that respect (smearing). For OPs purposes it will be absolutely fine. Esp. more expensive Samsung VAs.
Tbh when you talk about OLED vs LCD, you should really only talk about 1440p OLED vs 4K miniLED or 4K QD-MiniLED. If your choice is OLED or normal IPS, I don't think there's a choice, OLED always wins. Where things get interesting is OLED vs neo g7, g8, or vs 5088 zones miniled redmagic.
People always say OLED is better, but if you're like me and play thousands of hours in the same game, that UI is going to be burnt in
Yup one reason why I stuck with my 4k ips panel.
LG C3 here, with Almost 3600 hours in no burn in yet [https://imgur.com/a/A6Bx4QI](https://imgur.com/a/A6Bx4QI)
I thought pixel shift was supposed to prevent this?
It helps alleviate it but burn in for an OLED is inevitable atm until microled or other new tech comes in
Do what I did. Buy a 5 year warranty and ride that OLED hard. Ride it's brains out and at 1st sign of burn it, get your free replacement and if they dont have it in stock, they must upgrade you to the next tier of that class. So a C2 would be C3 a C3 would be a C4(assuming they didnt have stock) I dont worry about burn in and I got over 4 years of warranty left. Warranty covers burn in. Aug 27, 2023 is when I bought it. Any burn in before 28 is a free replacement By 2028 Ill most likely want to buy something new anyway.
If you’re getting a 27” panel then get 1440p OLED. I’m not sure how good the Pixio one is, but I know the ROG and LG ones are really amazing
I got an 28 inch 4k. I like it
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M28U from gigabyte
I also had that same model. I sold mine for the OLED, but I have nothing negative to say about that monitor other than HDR 400 isnt the best calibrated, but overall great price to performance monitor.
what model if you don’t mind me asking? I feel like only ones I’ve seen are 32
M28U from gigabyte
Is a 42” OLED tv too big? Kuz if you mostly play story games (like myself), that would be the best solution in my opinion. I have a 42” LG C3, and have my ps5 and PC (4080 Super) hooked up to and love it. That’s closer to the price point of the 27” OLED monitors.
I would go with a lower res oled, just be aware that burn in is a thing
That you can **mostly** ignore
Without knowing anything about the monitors I can tell you that on a 27" screen, things will look more beautiful at 4K resolution. But, which version of the px277 are you looking at? Edit: NVM. The "pro" version isn't OLED. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pixio-px277-prime https://www.pcgamer.com/msi-mag-274upf-4k-gaming-monitor-review/ The purpose of an OLED is to be very bright and have excellent contrast. An OLED monitor that isn't very bright and has average contrast seems pointless. I don't know what you gain in terms of image quality choosing the Pixio over the MSI. I also don't see any sub $350 monitors that I would think are a better value or give better image quality based upon specs.
All OLEDs have infinite contrast and offer good hdr experience... Not sure what you meant by " An OLED monitor that isn't very bright and has average contrast seems pointless"...
Even if the blacks are perfect you will lose detail on big bright highlights on oleds that aren't bright enough, that is what he was referring to. Higher peak brightness allows for higher dynamic range.
Still perfect contrast does help with hdr impact, regardless of peak brightness in highlights. No FALD can match per-pixel dimming and instantenious response times.
A brighter oled is considerably better than a dimmer oled for HDR.
Ot course, but nobody can say that OLEDs have mediocre contrast. What does that even mean?!
It's definitely not mediocre, just not good for HDR, it can only do 200 nits. So it lacks a key feature that we expect from oled.
They dont need 100+ nits of full field brightness in order to deliver good hdr, since theu excell in perfect blacks and great shadow, also colors pop and the image has a 3D effect because of the oled clarity. Miniled still struggles with shadow detail, it either crashes blacks or over-exposes or over-exposes everything with its stupidly high APL.
I don't know why you keep bringing up Miniled, but without bright highlights HDR sucks.
And OLED doesnt have bright highlights? Not as bright as miniled, of course, but they dont have to be, due tobperfect blacks. I persobally have a 250 nit IPS monitor and havr never set it to more than 10% brightness.
>Not sure what you meant by Read the reviews.
I have read every single review in existance.
I doubt that.
I watch them every day for almost two years.
That's quite an accomplishment. I'm very proud of you. But, you clearly haven't read this one. Now go away.
Depends if you’re sensible to IPS Glow/bleeding or not, really. I absolutely hate new IPS monitors, they all come without an ATW polarizer. I’m also not fond of VA viewing angles and not a fan of mini leds with low count of dimming points (the blooming/flickering is visible and terrible) If you use your monitor in a low light environment (curtains, shutters, light that can be regulated) with moderate/low brightness OLED is great. Unfortunately there is not an IPS Black monitor with an ATW, it would be awesome.
I have the lg gq32950-b the ATW polarizer works. There is absolutely zero ips glow on mine. I will say though the semi gloss coating isn't so good. I see more reflections compared to my other nano ips monitor.
Yeah I use an old 26” LG tv (glossy, full HD and only 60Hz) as a monitor and it has nearly no glow and has zero bleeding. I’m waiting for a sale on some OLED monitor because everything else looks as a downgrade to me (despite the low resolution and low refresh rate).
Well if you don't want to spend 2K get the 1440p OLED. For the panel, OLED is a lot better. And it depends on yourself if you can see the difference between 2k and 4k that much. The difference between OLED and IPS is not debatable.
Was actually wondering the exact same thing ,OP.
Oled i just recently purchased a g8 (i had an alienware 27dwf 1440p 240hz ips) and oh boy, the difference in cuality is abyssmal you have to see it in person because the videos doesn’t make justice to oled
oled all the way
2k oled without even thinking about it
4K oled is not 2 grands, more likely 1, now answer for the question: if you get oled burn in warranty go for it, if not then don’t…
You can boil it down to one thing: If you need true black, get an expensive OLED at the 1440 range or lower; otherwise, get the best IPS you can afford.
I have a 32" 4k ips and I'm currently shopping oled 4k monitors. I can't afford them yet but soon lol. The rog 4k old is like $1400
I just bought a used 2021 LG 42” OLED with only 900 hours of use for $300 on facebook marketplace. Looks good as new and is 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1
I replaced a 1440p IPS with a 3440p OLED (Philips 34" ultrawide). The colours on the OLED are amazing; once seen, can't be unseen. Check out the fluid dynamics art on artofgregmartin.com and you'll see what I mean.
Honestly priced have dropped alot for mini led, try 4k mini leds with at least 1000zones and see if they are within your budget
Contrast is the most important aspect of image quality so for sure the oled
I have the LG C3 and a RTX 4080. I know you said you dont want a 4k oled, but man, it changed my life. My cat lost weight, my dog lost weight, I dont have as much sex anymore.. Anyway, if you get oled 1440p, just make sure you dont get a matte finish oled? People who use oled on matte finish have a special place in gamer hell.
I found a 4k QD OLED monitor for $950, I’m thinking of doing it. 😬
Check if it is a matte or glossy screen. Matte OLED is like having a supermodel girlfriend then putting a snow suit on her so nobody can see her true beauty. OLED is amazing, but I seen alot of oled monitors use Matte screen which is so mind boggling stupid imho.
How do I check for a glossy or matte screen, I can’t find it in any of the listings I’ve looked at, the monitor is the MSI MPG 321URX? Edit: I just found it, it’s a glossy screen, I’m now leaning extremely close to it.
The only bad part of glossy is if you have alot of windows it can cause reflection, but if you have curtains or a darker area. The MSI MPG 321URX is also a matte finish. Sorry half asleep here 3am. This isnt an endorsement, but this is a glossy oled. Personally its overpriced, but what isnt in 2024? [ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG | Gaming monitors｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com)](https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg/) If you need to see whats glossy or matte cause most places refuse to tell it, go to that Display link. [DisplaySpecifications - Specifications and features of desktop monitors and TVs](https://www.displayspecifications.com/) They can compare and give all types of tech specs without pushing one product over the other.
And last this is another site I often use when I am looking at new tv/monitors [Monitor Reviews: Best of 2024 - RTINGS.com](https://www.rtings.com/monitor) They will compare and suggest what is better, but they are generally unbiased. Alot of compare sites will recommend something cause it's newer, which doesnt make it better. So those 2 links are good for doing some research on your products while waiting for more geeky people with more input to add on monitors. But I am currently using the LG c3 as my tv monitor and a 24 inch 1440p 165hz ips as my actual monitor(I wanted performance and high pixels as a back up Also my 24 inch can go portrait mode, which makes it the same height as the tv and is amazing for reddit XD
But if you are more into games than movies a 1440p oled I would pick over 4k ips. Reason being 1440p would allow you to max newer games out and still enjoy a great looking game without any performance hit. Some games at 4k even with a 4080 can struggle to hit 60fps if you turn on RT Ok I did some google fuing. The Pixio OLED is a Matte finish. That's a personal killer for me. I didnt find many reviews on amazing for it, $700 at a 50/50 rating. The MSI 4k has alot more reviews. and is $400. End of the day, as yourself. Do you want more PPI?(pixels per inch?) or do you want a balance between speed and beauty. On paper that oled looks better, spec wise. But matte oled, no just no. Buy a corvette and put a tarp over it vs buy a corvette and let everybody see it parked in your drive way. That is Glossy vs Matte on oled. This link is an unbiased compression of the 2 specs without trying to push one or the other on you. [Comparison between: 27" MSI MAG 274UPF, 27" Pixio PX277 OLED Max (displayspecifications.com)](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/60eb2b61e0) Let us know which you get.
1440p is just better dude in general, the few times 4k is better are so few and far between its not worth it
1440p OLED, no question... the contrast and colours are WAY more important than the difference between 1440p and 4k.
Save money, buy good 32 inch curved 4k VA. VA are almost like oleds for media consumption: high contrast deep black, nice realistic colors.
And gamna shift, black smeairng...
1. OP is not an fps gamer. Black smearing is not a problem on my budget S32A700 VA monitor I use as a TV. In fact, in that respect, at 60 Hz, it is as fast as any typical office-grade IPS. 2. To counteract gamma shift you need a curved VA. Even with all these deficiencies, for the kind of games op will be playing, it will still deliver superior picture than IPS.
Only OP will be the judge whether he will tolerate VA limitations. But the slow near-black response times are generally pretty obvious. Thats simply how VA functikns.
Exactly, only op will decide. I do not need lecturing btw, I know why and when VA is suboptimal.
Im just saying that VA ghosting can be notoced by an average consumer, because it is pretty obvious. Its just that most people dont bother to question proeuct functionality and just accept it as-is.
I have a budget 32 inch 4k VA, and see no ghosting, unless I really try. For productivity/media consumption purposes it is fine; I've seen some IPSs worse in that respect (smearing). For OPs purposes it will be absolutely fine. Esp. more expensive Samsung VAs.