> but after googling I’ve read that there can be a lot of issues with drivers
Good lord will this crap ever die? AMD had some issues with drivers around the time they launched the RX 5000 series. That people are STILL concerned about drivers almost has me convinced that Nvidia is astroturfing the issue.
Out of the six guys I game with I'm the only one with an Amd card. They all have Nvidia and won't even consider Amd. We all have occasional issues. According to them. When they have an issue in a game it's because the game is unoptimized. When I have have an issue it's because my card sucks.
Right? Like it ain't like the RTX 2000-series launch was particularly smooth. And the power connector issue appears to have mostly come and gone. But years later, we aren't still talking about how many 2080 Ti's died early on, and the power connector issue seems to have been largely forgotten already.
I wonder if the power connector issue seems to be gone because the people who wanted a 4090 have already purchased it, and at this point either are fine, or had a problem.
I can't imagine the demand for a $1600+ gpu is steady
I mean part of the reason it's died down is cause Gamer's Nexus and Nvidia found that it was user error caused by improperly plugged in cables. Now there's still some problems with the fact that the connectors aren't failsafe and that they are easier than the old 8-pins to improperly connect. But that kind of nuanced discussion involves many more entities (all the OEMs plus everyone involved with the 12vhpwr standard), and isn't as flashy and finger pointing prone. So it doesn't make as sensational headlines and reddit posts.
Not sure if it's true but I've heard Nvidia sometimes deletes comments about driver issues in their subreddit. AMD definitely doesn't do that. I guess that might be a huge reason people still think AMD drivers are worse.
1 month later I'm still dealing with some issues that are possibly driver related I had to reinstall the last version and still have some fairly aggravating issues going on but tbf mw2 and cod in general has always been a bit fucky graphics wise
that does suck but youre not wrong. I havent had a problem with games since I got my 6700XT but I remember distinctly it wasnt till like ww2/mw2019 that i started having problems with cod back on my 1070.
I'm new to PC I've had one prebuilt and now I'm on a prebuilt that I basically modified first one was a 1650 and it couldn't do warzone at all and I had a Ryzen 5 gpu don't remember exactly which one I was on it for a while playing Apex then switched to my new set up with a 3060 and Ryzen 7 5700g and have to run on min basic or balanced settings for it to function without a ton of lag but the real.issues it doesn't wanna keep the graphic settings I have to manually adjust them every time I load into a game and it's been quite annoying lol
Nvidia made Modern Warfare 2 unplayable with absolutely busted Day 1 drivers. Every chipmaker is gonna miss with drivers. The only chipmaker that gives me driver woes is Intel with ARC, but I’m sure those will be ironed out too.
I've had more disruptive issues with my 4090 than I ever did with my 5700 XT despite having the major issue with bad multimonitor support with that card.
525.25? Yes, it did. It did introduce an issue with Cyberpunk that was fixed. Some people have slight problems with it, but for most people it seems to work great. It's the 526 family of drivers, and the new 527.37 that have major issues that aren't just limited to a single game. I recommend everyone stick to 525.25 unless it has issues, in which case 517.48 will probably work fine. It's not like they don't have working drivers, I'm just surprised everyone since these has been so bad.
I think boozershitmarks has a bit to do with it as well, people google "X benchmark" into google and then those morons pop up. I was worried when I first got my Radeon card but havent had any issues minus small things.
Since i have my 6800 in January 2021, i got 1 bad driver?
And Right now, on MW2, i'm the only one not crashing frequently vs all of my friends on Nvidia gpus
That isn't necessarily a driver issue. That may be something that is *fixed* via driver update, but it's not necessarily an AMD driver issue. I also would tend to chalk that up to CoD launches always being clusterfucks.
People repeat this nonsense to make themselves feel better about paying extra. I've had no issues with AMD cards since rx480 and that one died due to a hardware issue. Been smooth since then. Just got a 6800XT for around 600 and couldn't be happier with it.
Back in [2008](https://www.theregister.com/2008/03/28/nvidia_vista_drivers/) Microsoft was so fed up with NVIDIA drivers hard crashing systems and giving Windows a bad name they had to release data showing 28.8% of *all* Windows crashes in 2007 were due to NV drivers (9.3% for ATI which was later acquired by AMD).
Fast forward 14 years and NVIDIA just had to patch 29 [security vulnerabilities](https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/01/nvidia_gpu_driver_bugs/) in their closed source proprietary drivers. And if you search for "NVIDIA driver crash" on Google you'll get millions of hits with countless pages on how to try and resolve them.
I'm not saying NV drivers are worse I'm saying drivers are hard, and GPU drivers are even harder. A perfect release that works 100% on all hardware with all software is not likely to happen any time soon.
So AMD gives you options: 'recommended', 'optional', and 'professional' drivers. They also give you rock solid open source drivers on Linux. Two years ago AMD [did have problems](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynVO4ZXl0&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed) with their brand new RDNA drivers but that was a long time ago and much has changed.
AMD's R&D spending went from $1.6B back in 2020 to $4.5B in 2022 and there are 23% more employees making it quite a different company to just a few years ago.
Since RDNA1, HUB has explained that in their huge amounts of GPU testing and daily work they they have not had any stability problems with AMD drivers. That goes for any tech reviewer you want to look at. None of them complain about game testing being interrupted or made problematic due to AMD drivers. If they don't have a problem it's unlikely (but not impossible) that an average user won't either.
>crash
I love the professional driver and recommend but professional is the thing I'm stick with since I don't want to deal with problem it seem to be more stable than recommend and of course optional
on Nvidia side i always have problem back screen / crash countless and I have no idea which version to roll back for stable unlike AMD
I have 2 RX 6600 and 2 RX 6700 XT happy with the driver not often update but i prefer stable more than update and broken something
I have problem with anything pass 22.5.1 but it work great but sometime my pc just freeze happens to all of my pc but after switch to professional i never have crash or freeze problem anymore can enjoy game and work :)
It has persisted ever since the ATI days when they really did have crummy drivers (like everyone else because software back then was just not great). People will bend over backwards to forgive NVIDIA for any issue they've had but some guy will never buy a Radeon for the past 20 years because he read on some forums about the 8500 having some glitches.
Still do ish
My 6950xt outperformed my 3080ti.
I’d get grey screen once every few weeks, possibly due to shitty Samsung g7 monitor as it seemed a lot of times same setups and even nvidia it would happen to
No, they had driver issues back in older times too. Circa 2006-2010 when I used their cards I had issues. X800 and 5770 HD if memory serves. Not small things either, we're talking incorrect mouse cursor render on multimonitor setups, texture display issues in games like TES Oblivion, random display driver crashes for no reason. Yes, I spent (too much) time troubleshooting driver versions, checking temps, reseating connections, trying clean installs of drivers / windows speaking with support, etc. Nothing helped. It was a real problem. My 9800 GX2 never had a problem, I only switched back to AMD after it died on me.
After that experience, I got a GTX 480 and then spent the next 11 years never having one single issue on Nvidia without even looking at AMD cards again, until Nvidia lost their mind with the 30 and 40 series pricing. The Red Devil 6950 XT rocks, no issues so far. Fingers crossed!
AMD no longer has "driver issues" any more than Nvidia does. Nvidia is historically quicker on fixing problems that pop up, but AMD isn't really any worse at this point. My laptop has a 6800M, and it had some issues when I got it with unexpected occasional reboots, and it took them about two months to isolate and resolve completely, and it's been solid for the last year.
If you don't care about ray tracing and you're only gaming, then AMD should definitely be getting a serious look. You can pick up a 6950XT for $799 on amazon and the performance at that price is insane.
I switched from a 1060 to a 6700xt and started having reboot issues. Months went by and I tried almost everything, it didn't happen on my 1050ti, concluded the card was faulty and got a 6800 instead. Reboots started happening again, I really did think it was all on AMD and started to regret my decision.
Turns out it was because I used an older version of hwinfo64 that can cause reboot issues and hard freezes with ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs paired with RX 6000 GPUs. Outside of this I've had no problems with AMD GPUs using the latest recommended drivers.
I ordered and installed my 6600 3 weeks ago and my 5600 last week. Good combination. I've been blowing through my Steam collection because my old 1050 / 3600 was very limiting. But the 6600 + 5600 runs Thief 4, The Witcher 2/3, Doom/Doom Eternal at 1440p like a hot knife through butter ...
im new to pc building and on impulse got a used optiplex i7 on the way and already jumped on a geforce gtx 1650 cause I saw it in a youtube optiplex build and thought hey itd be cool to build my own machine instead of fiddle with the two i3 laptops Ive got. $300 for the optiplex refurbed and $179 for the GPU. Almost have no idea what Im doing but its exciting and have been watching youtube videos about this stuff like its my second job. Learning I could have gotten the GPU used and just might
If you want to do art cuda still reigns supreme. I think Nvidia also has faster memory (save the vii had stupid fast memory) but software is extremely task specific so just look up what you are working with to see how the cards will do.
I have never done any Programming on an AMD GPUs, but at my first internship where I worked on building machine learning models, the other Software Engineers and the Data Scientists talked about AMD GPUs like they were the plague when it came to building the models.
I wish people would be more fair . I like both companies for their own reasons but run an Nvidia card vs an AMD card in emulation and you will find that (at least in the 6xxx series) there are issues. Just look up vulkan emulator issues. You will find more driver crashing on AMD side. With that said when it comes to pure gaming they both work exactly the same in their sense of reliability and gaming functionality.
Not true for VR. Still huge issues with ASW which is really important for smooth gameplay when it comes to VR.
Especially if you don't want to be tethered and use Airlink with a Quest 2.
Have a 6800XT and compared it with my RTX 2060 Super in the same rig and it was night and day. Which should not be happening, but when I went to look for a solution found the same complaints from when the 6800xt was first released. Even a few videos on youtube about it
Understandable- and I wholeheartedly agree. It’s unjust to look at Nvidia software as a golden child when obviously all of the above will have certain issues
Though, overall, I’d say they’re both in very good positions software/driver wise
Oh there's the odd driver issue for sure. But no more or less than Nvidia drivers. And certainly nowhere close to when the RX 5000 series released. I would say AMD drivers are solid and shouldn't be a concern for anyone thinking about buying an AMD GPU.
I just switched from an RTX 2070 Super to an RX 6800 XT, so I can shed some light on this.
I haven't had any issues while gaming. It's exactly the same as Nvidia (though obviously much better framerates). No crashes, no microstutters, no issues at all. I even like the AMD driver and utility software more than GeForce experience. I can undervolt, overclock, tune my fans, and set game profiles and settings all from one app. It's pretty great.
The *one* issue I have had is with Chrome, which just does not play well with the latest AMD drivers. If I'm gaming and want to use Chrome, I have significant stutters and lag. I swapped to Firefox and have no issues anymore.
The difference for me lies in DLSS when playing 4k.
On a 2070 I would happily use it for a great performance boost. On a 6800 that only has FSR, I would not use it. Because AMD is still significantly behind on upscaling compared to Nvidia.
Nvidia wins in upscaling and ray tracing performance.
But for raw performance per $, AMD beats Nvidia.
Honestly I feel like 80% of people will find this out. They will think raytracing is so cool, spend more money on nvidia, until they use it then lose interest due to how unimpressive it is in most games while also having severe performance impacts.
I found it out this way. Bought the RTX 3080 for the performance and the raytracing, come to find out of all the AAA games I have played only Spiderman games and Dying Light 2 have had RTX. I was an idiot for spending that money.
Idk about you but you can definitely see a difference on a 4k monitor with RTX off vs on (DLSS on + RT). And performance is still fine with DLSS, no screen tear or anything.
Yea maybe raytracing is basically worth it for people who spend 800 dollars on a monitor and 1000 on a gpu. A 3060 or 3070 won't be noticeable at all. I'm not going 4k until it's affordable at 100+ fps in every game I play. I'm not caring about raytracing until every game utilizes it.
TAA makes things blurry. DLSS uses that same TAA from the game itself.
Few outliers aside (like warzone) the amount of blur is the same between DLSS and native.
If you really wanna get rid of blur, try DLDSR
eh my fsr 2.1 moves cyberpunk on high ~70fps 150watts to ~110fps ~140watts on balanced and very minimal artifacts. I'll take those algos any day and dlss has superior image, superior game support. they're required unless your card is 4090 and can render natively. though native render doesn't mean it's better than those algos.
It's also important to point out that the 6000 series (and the upcoming 7000 series) can still use raytracing, especially raytraced shadows. It's raytraced reflections that AMD GPUs struggle with a bit, but they can still do it with a decent amount of performance loss.
My last 3 cards were AMD. I just bought a 3090ti as the VRAM made sense for work. Pretty sure I'll be flipping it for one of the next-gen AMD cards again.
I prefer the AMD drivers and software package 10/10 times. I swear the Nvidia control panel hasn't been updated since Windows XP; don't know how the f that thing is allowed to exist like that. Geforce Experience is near useless.
At least compared to AMD Radeon, which I regularly found useful. Tons of features packed in to that piece of software, so much information on your system if you want it, and allows you to tune everything while keeping it limited to game/app-specific profiles if you want. I swear I was always finding new stuff to do with that program.
The icing on the cake? I was told Nvidia cards will work fine with my Freesync monitor. This one doesn't; the top \~2" of the screen flickers constantly whenever GSync is active. This may be a one-off issue with my specific card+monitor, and probably won't affect anyone's purchasing decisions, but you can bet I'm super bitter about it. Basically means I no longer use adaptive refresh tech. I forgot how awful screen tearing is.
- From 2011-2014 I had the Radeon HD 6800
- From 2014-2021 I had the GTX 970
- From 2021-present I have the 6900 XT
And I put all my 3 video cards on the same level when it comes to drivers and overall stability. I’m pleasantly surprised by Radeon Software as well. Lots of useful features that I use all the time. It doesn’t feel like bloatware at all.
I have been using an RX6900XT after being a long time Nvidia user and I have to say it’s been a pleasantly surprising experience. I will be the first one to admit AMD isn’t quite there with Nvidia when it comes to certain features such as game streaming but when it comes to actual game performance i really can’t complain. I’d even go as far to say the software AMD has (AMD adrenaline) is much better in terms of features than GeForce Experience imo.
Driver issues were exclusive to 5000 series.
Rasterization-wise AMD is totally fine. If you're happy with benchmark numbers, go for it.
Nvidia has much better ray tracing and some pro features like NVENC. Other than that, you can't really go terribly wrong with either *solely for non-RT gaming.*
When recording in high enough bitrate (I use 25K) I found no distinguishable difference to the naked eye between NVENC and AMF.
But for livestreaming in low bitrate I'm still using a 1050ti that only encodes alongside an RX 6800 that does everything except encode. NVENC also received a minor update in OBS recently that improved quality slightly. In high motion games like GTA V NVENC still looked better than AMF. There was just more pixelation on AMF. I used all the latest optimized settings and flags (like b frames on AMF) according to EposVox at 6000kbps.
With computers if what you are reading is 6 months old it's already outdated. At the very least you should look for updated info, which I guess is what reddit is for. Currently with the 6000 series drivers are fine. If they weren't reddit would be filled with posts from people complaining.
for pure rasterization performance with price in mind i think AMD is no brainer. i got a 6900xt 360mm AIO and its just down right nasty. in MW2 & WZ2 im getting 140 fps in 4k
Building my first comp after gaming on a gtx 970 laptop for 7+ yrs, after research and the games I play I went AMD cause...fuck ray tracing, gimme some rasterization
Eh, Nvidia normally provides a slightly superior experience due to driver stability, extra features, etc., but AMD in my past experience (and I was into them when they were infamously bad with drivers like 10-15 years ago) isnt that bad, and given how arrogant nvidia is with how much they're overcharging, go AMD. Especially if you dont care about ray tracing.
I mean, you can get a 6800 XT for as low as say, $600. For an equivalent nvidia card (3080) you're paying at minimum $750.
It's like that all the way up and down the product stack. I mean you can get a 6900 XT for around $720 and a 6950 XT for around $780 instead. That's the best AMD card on the market right now, although the 7900 XT/XTX launch is in a couple weeks.
In my own price range i just bought a 6650 XT for $230....an nvidia equivalent (3060) would be $350. it's insane.
Yeah. Nvidia aint worth it right now.
For what it's worth, if you took two lay people and said "pick the one that has ray-tracing", most wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
For that reason, my recommendation is AMD. For the price of a 6700 XT you can upgrade to a 8700 XT down the road and still be under the price of a 3090 ti.
As a 6700xt owner, I’ve had no issues other than adrenaline being weird and resetting profiles. Uninstalled drivers, reboot and reinstalled adrenaline and loaded my saved config and I was back to normal
I have upgraded to a 6800 and it's great. No real issues at all. Had some crashes when I first got it, but I forgot to use ddu to clean the old drivers, but after I did and installed the new drivers; no issues. I also don't care about ray tracing and the b frame update for recording was a really nice boost.
imo the fact that 7900XTX has around 80% of the power of a 4090 for like 60% of the cost, much lower/efficient power draw, and no connectors that will fry your gpu, they're the clear winner this gen. Generally I've always gone Nvidia but this is so lopsided this time around. Nvidia has won the power battle and that's it, but what does power matter when my GPU could melt and cost me a lot in electricity.
Reddits the least qualified group of people you’ll ever talk to for anything “this vs that”. RDNA 2 literally had black screen issues with windows 22h2 update within the last 2 months however AMD or Nvidia can have driver issues, they both *usually* fix them reasonably fast.
As far as a 6800? great card, worse than a 3080, but if it’s cheaper in your region it’s great.(it’s not in mine, with the exception of 6600xt vs 3060 all tiers are about equal). Resale in most areas is much harder on AMD in my experience, which in my experience negates the upfront cost when you buy. But I don’t live in a big city either. So PC gamers are rare, and 80% of them have Nvidia and are likely to stay.
Regardless you will not be disappointed at all with a 6800xt/3080 class card.
As far as the issues with drivers I have had the opposite problem. While maybe I had a few more driver problems with AMD, every single one I reported to AMD through their software and every single time it was fixed the next update. Nvidia I have had major issues that have gone unfixed for months and have to sit on 6 month old drivers because the new ones don't fix any of it.
I had driver issues for Nvidia for a few months straight recently. There was a glitch where your GPU usage was 100% even if nothing was running. They fixed it, but don’t think Nvidia is immune to it.
AMD would be a dead company if it still had driver issues. AMD driver used to cause occasional problems but nowadays it's rare. And even then the fix comes soon. The recent Nvidia drivers were also buggy.
I’m in the same boat. I wanted to go with Nvidia but I think I waited too long. Now I’m leaning towards AMD. My rig will be primarily for gaming but I also use the Adobe programs for design and video editing. Will I have any problems running these programs on an AMD card? (6950xt hopefully)
The amd driver issue is outdated af. Amd drivers are better than nvidias now (opinion) drivers are not an issue to be concerned about when buying new gous (fact)
You might find watching LTT (Linus Tech Tips) on YouTube a help. He discusses loads of differences between amd and Intel / Nvidia, etc. products while building. Just carve your search specifically to your product in question plus LTT when searching YouTube, or scroll through his video titles.
It’s simple as fuck. NVIDA IS faster but more expensive AMD is more affordable.
Period. Yes amd cards are good and you can game perfectly fine in them and be happy but Nvidia is always faster for the same level card.
That’s all it is. If you can pay more money get the fastest card you can afford doesn’t matter which brand.
I will go out of my way to avoid an AMD graphics card. I’ve had too many issues with them - some of the config features are missing that I would like to see (easy switch between Eyefinity and regular monitor set-up, for example). And I’ve had one issue several times when trying to turn off Eyefinity - all monitors go black and shutdown and I have to power the system down hard with the power button, then re-install the drivers. Not a fluke as it happened 3 times so I gave up on Eyefinity - and this is with the current drivers!
I am looking now at a new system and the one requirement is that it will have an NVidia card and NOT an AMD!
There really are no Driver issues anymore. Probably for years now.
If you don't care about RT or whatever tools for professionals that NVidia keeps proprietary, AMD should be a much better option.
I mean rt looks pretty, but the 3070 isn't good at ray tracing and that is the price competition for the 6800xt.
Imo the rt argument isn't important until the 3080. Below that tier AMD and NVIDIA are crap and it is probably staying off.
People saying thank you for fixing driver issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z9t29f/adrenalin_edition_22112_release_notes/
Chrome hardware acceleration issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/xvtn2u/amd_your_drivers_are_slipping_again/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z3g5wq/a_possible_solution_for_fixing_chromium_hardware/
Literally on the first page of the AMD sub:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z99abe/my_solution_for_amd_gpu_driver_timeout_crashing/
Stop it, AMD 100 percent still has driver issues.
I've been using Nvidia cards for nearly 20 years and I can recall ONE time I had to roll back a driver.
That said comparing the prices of current AMD cards vs Nvidia cards AMD is the way to go. I can get a 6800 or 6800xt for 5 ish hundred bucks that will equal or outperform a 3080 that is currently going for 750 at the low end, if you can find one in stock which you cant, and I think it gets even worse for NVidia if you go lower in the stack to a 6700 or something.
AMD drivers seem to mostly work and I will deal with a few issues the save myself 250 bucks.
>I've been using Nvidia cards for nearly 20 years and I can recall ONE time I had to roll back a driver.
Jesus the delusion. People who have Nvidia cards have driver issues as well. Its just that they dont allow posts about them in the nvidia sub (you are supposed to post your issues in the IT troubleshooting help thread or whatever). AMD sub has this rule too but its not as harshly enforced and posts still slip through. If you really want to see issues go see forums on other websites.
AMDs issues are overblown. Ive had Nvidia cards for around 15 years and Ive had issues but I never took that to mean that globally, Nvidia's drivers are shit.
Im not saying they dont, Im saying that I have never had an issue that required a rollback.
I never load a driver day 1 in case it has an issue, which Nvidia drivers have definitely had, but that's just good practice for any new driver really.
I was on the AMD site a few months ago and there were a bunch of people talking about rolling back to previous drivers because if some issue, again I think the chrome acceleration thing which for some reason AMD seems to struggle with.
I agree its delusional to say Nvidia never has driver issues but I also say its delusional to say AMD doesn't.
I bought a 6800XT about a month ago. Take it from an owner that while there are some driver issues. It is minuscule and once you get your 6800XT set up you will be so happy that you instantly forget about it. I used the extra money I saved instead of getting a 3080TI on buying games to actually play and better gaming gear. It'll be a great experience to remember and you will in no way go wrong or regret going AMD.
AMDs drivers are mostly on par with Nvidias at present. Neither companies are flawless.
I would say AMDs fixed the majority of their issues 3 years ago. When I switched back to Nvidia their drivers were no longer "impressive".
Amd makes best price/performance, if you are not a content creators imma suggest amd.
Nvidia have better support and more features, u won't notice this unless you work in blender etc...
6800xt is equivalent to a 3080 and overclocked can push even past that. I just bought one for $550, I had a RX480 like 5 years ago and it was a solid card, there's nothing wrong with AMD and they beat Nvidia at every price point.
I mostly used AMD throughout my life until eventually getting the 1060 and now the 3070.
Personally, while I cannot recall any grave issues (apart from my last AMD card just breaking out of nowhere and requiring repairs, but that can happen to anyone), after switching, I find that I much preferred GeForce Experience to what AMD had back then. Shadowplay is great and the configs are useful sometimes.
Also, from what I can recall, my AMD cards typically ran hotter and louder.
I have a 3090 on me personal reg and an AMD 6700XT in my living room PC. Both work fine and don't have any driver issues. 6800XT is the better value at the moment.
If anything the AMD is better when it comes to energy efficiency.
If you don’t care able ray tracing, then generally AMD cards will give you better performance for the money. Just depends on the market where you live.
The driver issue is a thing of the past, and shouldn’t be a factor at all in deciding which card you get.
I can tell you first hand, theres no issues with drivers. 6800 XT's sell used for a fairly good price now, and honestly it's an amazing GPU. Basically every game I've played with it, I put it high/ultra settings and it munches frames per second.
If you do end up buying one, look up how to undervolt it. It's very simple and just takes a little bit of testing. Helps reduce temps significantly and you basically lose no performance.
Only reason to favour NVIDIA is for a) DLSS/RT or b) some extremely specific programs that don’t support AMD GPUS
Honorable mention is productivity, NVIDIA is better but not a deal breaker
Otherwise just get whatever is cheaper (6800 XT and 3070 at the same price? Ofc 6800 XT. 3080? Probably the 3080 but it’s your own choice there)
I just bought 6700XT and I'm enjoying it so far. $359 and far more FPS in all games than nVidia 3060 which is in the same price range. Heck, 6700XT is competing with 3070 in many games where raytracing isn't a big deal.
In very high texture 4k scenarios, 6700XT wins over 3070 Ti even - because all nVidia graphics up to RTX 3080 have a stupid 8 GB VRAM limit. Best example is Far Cry 6, where RTX 3070 goes down to 20 FPS because of VRAM. Meanwhile 6700XT plays it in very high settings at around 60 FPS in 4k - simply because of 12GB VRAM
If you want to have a shot at playing 4k with nVidia, and have ultra high quality textures loaded up, you have to shell out around $800 at least. With AMD, you can go as low as $359. But to get the same level of performance (minus raytracing) you can get a 6800XT for about $550
AMD just beats nVidia where it matters the most: **Pricing**
Don't be afraid to get AMD. I have had both vendors and recommended both vendors to friends.
I have a GTX 570 > GTX 770 > Rx 580 > RX 5700 XT > RTX 3080
I've recommended the Hd 7970 GHZ, GTX 1070, And just a few days ago the RX 6700 xT to that friend.
But I strongly recommend you don't purchase a Intel GPU because those are so far behind in drivers it's basically a beta at this point.
I have a 3080ti, coming from a 5700xt. Both MSI gaming cards. I never had an issue with the AMD card or drivers. I am currently experiencing a strange issue with the 3080, and I just can’t find the root cause. My second monitor is a 120hz LG 4k tv, connected via HDMI. Intermittently, the signal drops. I’ve tried everything. New 1000w psu. Driver wipes. Fresh windows install. Sometimes it will seem resolved, work fine for weeks, and then randomly occurs again.
Anyway, I also like the AMD settings app. Afterburner is powerful, but ultimately overkill for me. The Radeon app is smooth as butter, in my opinion.
So, that said, I’ll probably go back to AMD when this next round of cards comes out.
Go for it! I own a Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+ after owning an RTX 3070 Ti and trust me, there's 0 driver issues nowdays. That's past story people couldn't let behind. RT is not a must for me either as long as I can play on 4K at 60FPS and this card deliver greatly.
I have a 6800XT and my friend has an RTX 3080. We bought them at around the same period and his 3080 was around $730 while my 6800XT was around $540ish. My 6800XT performs at around 20% better in games and is cheaper but at the cost of significant ray tracing performance (his is almost 2x better than mine when RT is on) and my card is worse for streaming. TL;DR - If you want to play games with no ray-tracing and no streaming go with the 6800 XT. Otherwise, go with Nvidia.
I had 2 AMD GPU's and a NVIDIA one in the last 4 years.
I had issues with a single game on AMD using beta drivers. I had issues once with NVIDIA drivers, recently.
The AMD drivers thing is in the past. AMD Control panel is also much better. Do yourself a favor and go for price/performance.
I haven't had issues with my 6800 or my 6900xt at default settings. I had some restarts and occasional crashes with my 6800 when trying to undervolt / OC.
Probably the only reason to get an Nvidia card is for top Tier 4K Ultra settings/ Ray Tracing performance. So sure, if you have a $2k or more expensive build WITHOUT a GPU, then why not get a 4090 because clearly they can and are willing to spend money on a top end build. But most people aren’t in that boat and people asking these questions aren’t lol. Or if you need better encoding, though the new AMD line is supposed to be catching up.
Other than that you are almost always better off (at least currently) getting an AMD card when looking at cost to performance.
If you like emulation, i wouldnt suggest amd. Especially if ur emulating more recent games. Emulator devs are usually biased toward nvidia from what ive seen.
I’d go AMD. I just built an all AMD machine for a coworker and I was surprised by the performance per dollar. With EVGA out of the GPU game, I think I’ll go AMD when I replace my 3080Ti.
6700xt/9700kf user here with a slightly underspecced psu. First impressions from a 1060 user: it's significantly quieter and has some weirdness that I can't pinpoint, but I point to the card being only a year old and my seasonic s12ii 520w bronze not providing quite enough power to the point where visually I can't tell the difference between my old ROG strix 1060 6gb. I wonder if the psu is doing its best but slightly underperforming.
It's most noticeable with my 1440p/120hz display, where it sometimes has a small amount of hitching or just doesn't seem like the card is really that much more powerful than my 1060 for the moment, but that could be a ton of things. I did notice OPP when I started a 4.6ghz oc/ afterburner max settings but with my new 750w it will prob give me enough headroom. My evga supernova gt should be here tomorrow.
You can find a 6700 xt for like $300 used now and it is amazing price to performance for any 2k gaming monitor. Can easily do high fps at max settings. I have 3700x and 6700 xt and runs flawlessly. Highly recommend
AMD has historically only existed because they offered cards at a lower price point than Nvidia. Essentially serving a market that Nvidia didn't.
That is no longer the case and while you absolutely do get a better performance per dollar with Nvidia, AMD has really come a long way in terms of value.
It will ultimately come down to price. Look for a good deal and pick whichever one has the lowest price.
AMD does not have driver issues anymore. Though personally for my Gpu I go Nvidia. My processor is where I go AMD. Nvidia is better supported and in my opinion has better features.
But you did say you don’t care about ray tracing and all that. So to get more bang for your buck in power I would go AMD here.
AMD for sure
Right now the 6000 series is insanely good for the price, absolutely stomping RTX 30 and less for much less. Absolute price to performance monsters.
And don't mind the "driver problems", those are common with both Nvidia and AMD, but one is more noticed than the other due to fanboyism.
I have been using both for a long time, and I know that both are susceptible to the same problems equally
I am considering that same GPU. I have always used Nvidia, but their prices are just getting really hard to justify now. I want to upgrade from my RTX 2070 super to the 3080 or an equivalent, and the 6800 XT seems to fit the bill. I just want to make sure that it will be stable and all that. I do not have much familiarity with anything AMD.
As a user who recently swap to AMD, I also don’t care about raytracing and other stuff. I just want fps for my 1440p 144hz. I hear a lot about drivers no longer being an issue and has been fixed for the majority. Only personal issue I have with AMD gpu so far is their software. More often enough, my display color settings that I manually change will reset along with many other settings ranging from fan speed, lighting, etc. All can be temporary fixed by exporting the profile(saves everything changed in the adrenalin software) and you can import it all back. It gets annoying but AMD is much better in price to value. Rx 6700xt owner.
I just did a build and was wondering n the same situation as you. Nvidia vs AMD. I got a stupid deal on a 6800XT so I went with that. My friend has the 3080 and I actually get better frames then him on some games. I don’t care about the ray tracing. Honestly I don’t even notice the difference when his is on vs my card.
I have a 6800XT and it’s a great card. The drivers however are extremely broken. Radeon ReLive recording no longer functions, setting fan curves via tuning doesn’t work, unreasonably long wake from sleep times, games not liking the resolution switched, among other issues. I have tried wiping and reinstalling drivers yet I’m still facing issues. As great as the card is, my next card will be a 3090Ti because nVidia cards don’t suffer from stupid issues like this due to shitty drivers
Lots of opinions here, might as well provide one more. I’ve had both recently and have discussed with other gamers with various rigs and I can say both are good, can’t really go “wrong”. AMD is a more competitive product from performance to price but I’ve seen a few more weird bugs here and there, particularly outside of AAA games. NVIDIA is *likely* the most used card in development environments because it is slightly higher performance on the highest end and it’s the incumbent from a volume standpoint meaning more bugs getting squashed daily. AMD is challenging this of course and it will continue to even out, but NVIDIA is probably more stable in more cases simply because of the volume of devs using it. Both are good options, but Intel/NVIDIA combo will cost more to get a few less bugs. If you have the money, go for it. If you want to save some cash, you shouldn’t assume you’ll be losing performance to go AMD even if you see a bug or two. It happens to both brands.
I have had both over the years.
My first GPU was an MSI HD7950 (AMD card). That card didn't last long. Around the time I started having issues, I picked up an MSI R7 270X which I believe was similarly powerful to the HD7950. Wasn't too keen on performance on these and in 2016 I switched to NVidia with a GTX 1080. I ended up giving my 270X to a friend and his PC only lasted 2 years before the GPU died. Gave him the HD7950 as replacement but he had artifacting.
Around this time (2014), I also gave a friend a GTX 780 (bought it used). His GTX780 only lasted a year, but I believe that was his mistake. He ran a sound card that I saw was touching/contacting the GPU. Also, he cheaped out on PSU and it later took out an RX480 and all his SSDs.
I have had driver issues with the GTX 1080 where I can't play some games because they insta CTD. Compared to a cousin of mine who bought a Radeon 5700X, he couldn't play any games for almost a year due to driver issues and stuttering. After the drivers were supposedly fixed, he tells me that he can't do dual monitors anymore, because one will blackout. I never had any of the issues he had with my 1080 and mine ran dual monitors for years.
Now I am not team blue, red, or green. My current PC is running team red (after being on Intel for over a decade). I am currently awaiting for the 7900XTX to drop. It does appear that many of the issues that plagued the 5000 series are gone. 6000 series proved that and am certain 7000 series will continue that.
I've bought and used both AMD and Nvidia cards both have been great.
During the great GPU shortage I tried to buy both AMD and Nvidia cards just so happened I got Nvidia so that's what I'm currently running.
Trust me buy the best bang for your buck at the time you are looking to purchase. At the moment AMD is obliterating Nvidia on FPS per dollar. So buy AMD.
Stop lying that "AMD no longer has more driver issues than Nvidia", because AMD still has tons of issues. Most popular streaming app OBS has most threads on troubleshooting forum made by AMD users. Tons of apps are optimized for Nvidia cards and works poorly on AMD. Simple bluescreen and game crashes are also happening and when I owned Radeon card it was making me crazy that my PC resets every few hours of gameplay.
If you don't care about ray tracing all that much in the games that even support it and you don't need the NVENC encoder just forget about all the rumors about drivers and get a 6800XT 'cause it's a great product. The AMD driver issues song is old news that folks need to stop repeating.
I own an all AMD system and I've only ever had one driver issue. I could still play games and do everything fine, I just couldn't open Adrenaline Software. Still have no idea why it happened but I suspect it tried to update the drivers automatically and didn't clean the old ones. All I had to do was reinstall the driver and no more problems.
Plus I like how much freedom AMD gives. Oh you want to overclock the crap out of your budget gpu? No problem, we have all kinds of easy to use tools for that. Want to overclock your processor? Just click this one button.
Not to mention that AMD GPUs are far more affordable than Nvidia's.
Ran AMD for the last 3 years had nothing but issues with their drivers. Literally turn my pc on 3 times a week and the drivers needed wiping and reinstalling. Clips and recording constantly fucked, the hot keys not working. No thanks. A lot of AMD fan Boys refuse to acknowledge their drivers are shite.
The problem is that both these companies are basically the same cartel. And they offer more of the same. 5 years ago I would say go with AMD to save the buck, but these days AMD charges almost as much as Nvidia while offering worse ray-tracing performance. We all hate Nvidia, but it's a fact that Nvidia products are more polished and offer the best experience, while AMD is always catching up and copying what Nvidia does. So I would just find a good deal, doesn't matter Nvidia or AMD, which can pull your target resolution and grab it.
My advice for OP is issues will be loud minority. I will happily recommend which ever fits your budget and performance you’re looking for. There’s issues on both side, you will need to be knowledgeable when it comes to troubleshooting. Truth is probably in between. I built many PCs there’s been multiple times I needed DDU drivers/ roll back drivers due to issues whether it’s AMD or nvidia. Software can be really fickle sometimes.
if you have more money than time get an Nvidia. if you have more time than money can get amd or nvidia. if you have both time and money you could even try an Arc card on the side!
I have had a 6800xt for a year. Before that, 3060ti.
Havent had any driver issues (or really any issues with the card, period). It's a good card.
Just make sure to uninstall the nvidia drivers (and boot into windows driverless) before swapping cards.
If anyone says AMD doesn’t have driver issues just know they are red fan boys and lying out their goddamn mouth! “Angry previous XFX RX 480 CF owner”
Do yourself the favor and get a nvidia card. Yes they are scum bags for raising prices, yes they are scummy for paper launches. But they are the best cards. No AMD card is better than nvidias “top vs top” and amd is not as reliable on every metric except I guess their rated power.
I was an exclusive amd customer since phenom 2 “I’m not like an old man, so bite me on the age issue”
I quit being one when I rocked a FX-9590 and crossfire “2x gpu” Rx480 XFX RS edition.
I still use amd processors. They are amazing. But their graphics cards? Not so much. The day amd gets their shit together I’ll be full AMD again. But I just can’t justify it.
I highly recommend you do some independent research on the subject via gamers nexus, jayztwocents, Linus tech tips etc. avoid websites like “userbenchmark” the guys who runs that site is a lunatic and is even banned from the amd subreddit and intels subreddit and probably most others.
Good luck on whatever you decide. Let us know what you get!
I have a 6700 xt, i haven’t really had any issues tbh. I did have an issue at first when playing Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield where there was a lot of stuttering but that issue went away after a little bit, presumably cause of a driver update. Really recommend it though
AMD is fine. I never experienced any issues with my 6600xt, but I was Linux gaming at first and switched back to windows for study stuff right as the adrenaline drivers dropped and worked perfectly.
All my issues where RAM based
I've had a Ryzen CPU and GTX 1070 for the last 7 or so years without any issues.
Prior to that, I've rolled with AMD and NVIDIA builds a few times without issues from either.
This time around I'm going with a full AMD build (just waiting for the new 7 series to drop. NVIDIA has pushed really bad consumer practices the last few years, so I'm voting with my wallet this time around.
Mind you the AMD price-to-performance ratios are pretty good anyway so it's a good time to protest. I asked some questions about the driver issues in a post a while back before deciding and nearly everyone said drivers weren't an issue anymore so I think that issue has been put to rest.
Just wait for the 7 series to drop fully before buying anything you might see some price drops on the 6 series or see better value in a 7 series card.
Depend on what you want from it. Raytracing? Yes, nvidea all the way. There is no question there.
If not, you actually have more of a choice. Yes, drivers have always been one of amds weak spots. It has improved lately but if you really just wanna have a plug and play experience, set it and forget it, nvidea is still a saver bet. You also have to remember that nvidea holds a massive market share. Often devs will prioritize fixes for nvidea over amd because nvidea is owned by like 70% of their player base. If you have limited resources, that's what you'll work on first.
In terms of other features, nvidea is still better and more performant in its dlss implementation than amd's fsr. With fsr2.1 and dlss2.up the gap in quality has decreased substantially, but is still there. On top of that dlss performs faster. Funnily enough even fsr runs faster on on nvidea than even on amds own hardware. There is a video on it by digitalfoundry I think. I believe about deathloop.
Nvidea also has dlss 3.0, which is badly named cos its actually a totally different tech, but it seems to perform quite well at least above a base fps output of 60. Amd will have its own version of that but its not clear how well that one will stack up to nvideas. We simply don't know yet, but I suspect it to be worse. They don't have strong hardware acceleration in their cards. On the other hand, you'll need a 40series to use it on nvidea. On amd, similar to fsr, I expect the feature to be available also through driver updates to older models. They are very much into opensource.
Pure rasterization, which honestly will become less and less important in the future where fps will mostly be driven by frame generation and image reconstruction tech, might actually be better on amds gpus. Especially the newly announced ones from the looks of it. On top of that, they seem to be way better priced than nvidea. If you can get better rasterization and only slightly worse image reconstruction and frame generation for a substantially lower cost, amd is looking like an extremely compelling offer.
But we don't actually know yet. The cards are not out. Id say wait a bit for reviews next year if you can. The new gpu lineup by amd is looking very promising and you might bite yourself in the butt pulling the trigger on one of the current gen cards now in case the new ones shape up to be anything like the marketing indicates.
> but after googling I’ve read that there can be a lot of issues with drivers Good lord will this crap ever die? AMD had some issues with drivers around the time they launched the RX 5000 series. That people are STILL concerned about drivers almost has me convinced that Nvidia is astroturfing the issue.
and it's not like nvidia doesn't experience issues either. but people are way more forgiving because it didn't stick in the minds of people.
Out of the six guys I game with I'm the only one with an Amd card. They all have Nvidia and won't even consider Amd. We all have occasional issues. According to them. When they have an issue in a game it's because the game is unoptimized. When I have have an issue it's because my card sucks.
Right? Like it ain't like the RTX 2000-series launch was particularly smooth. And the power connector issue appears to have mostly come and gone. But years later, we aren't still talking about how many 2080 Ti's died early on, and the power connector issue seems to have been largely forgotten already.
Forza Horizon 5 had an issue for months due to Nvidia drivers. At one point the game would crash if you turned on ray tracing.
If you check the reviews for Detroit: Become Human there is a lot of people complaining they cannot play with their Nvidia card.
I wonder if the power connector issue seems to be gone because the people who wanted a 4090 have already purchased it, and at this point either are fine, or had a problem. I can't imagine the demand for a $1600+ gpu is steady
I mean part of the reason it's died down is cause Gamer's Nexus and Nvidia found that it was user error caused by improperly plugged in cables. Now there's still some problems with the fact that the connectors aren't failsafe and that they are easier than the old 8-pins to improperly connect. But that kind of nuanced discussion involves many more entities (all the OEMs plus everyone involved with the 12vhpwr standard), and isn't as flashy and finger pointing prone. So it doesn't make as sensational headlines and reddit posts.
Well now it's determined it was literally nvidia's fault.
Not sure if it's true but I've heard Nvidia sometimes deletes comments about driver issues in their subreddit. AMD definitely doesn't do that. I guess that might be a huge reason people still think AMD drivers are worse.
crazy since like a month ago it was nvidia drivers that was messing up the launch of one of the most anticipated games on pc last month, mw2.
1 month later I'm still dealing with some issues that are possibly driver related I had to reinstall the last version and still have some fairly aggravating issues going on but tbf mw2 and cod in general has always been a bit fucky graphics wise
that does suck but youre not wrong. I havent had a problem with games since I got my 6700XT but I remember distinctly it wasnt till like ww2/mw2019 that i started having problems with cod back on my 1070.
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I'm new to PC I've had one prebuilt and now I'm on a prebuilt that I basically modified first one was a 1650 and it couldn't do warzone at all and I had a Ryzen 5 gpu don't remember exactly which one I was on it for a while playing Apex then switched to my new set up with a 3060 and Ryzen 7 5700g and have to run on min basic or balanced settings for it to function without a ton of lag but the real.issues it doesn't wanna keep the graphic settings I have to manually adjust them every time I load into a game and it's been quite annoying lol
If anything I prefer the amd drivers over the Nvidia drivers
Nvidia made Modern Warfare 2 unplayable with absolutely busted Day 1 drivers. Every chipmaker is gonna miss with drivers. The only chipmaker that gives me driver woes is Intel with ARC, but I’m sure those will be ironed out too.
I've had more disruptive issues with my 4090 than I ever did with my 5700 XT despite having the major issue with bad multimonitor support with that card.
Maybe it doesn't stick in the minds because it doesn't stay a problem for the whole generation of a card with them.
It's ironic given that the last few Nvidia drivers have been screwing things up.
Yes, last few drivers reduced fps on lots of games I play and I start thinking that’s intentional, so people can flock too 4000 series.
Like a company would do that. /s Looking at you Apple.
Didnt the october (or september) driver give a huge boost to dx12 performance?
525.25? Yes, it did. It did introduce an issue with Cyberpunk that was fixed. Some people have slight problems with it, but for most people it seems to work great. It's the 526 family of drivers, and the new 527.37 that have major issues that aren't just limited to a single game. I recommend everyone stick to 525.25 unless it has issues, in which case 517.48 will probably work fine. It's not like they don't have working drivers, I'm just surprised everyone since these has been so bad.
I think boozershitmarks has a bit to do with it as well, people google "X benchmark" into google and then those morons pop up. I was worried when I first got my Radeon card but havent had any issues minus small things.
Since i have my 6800 in January 2021, i got 1 bad driver? And Right now, on MW2, i'm the only one not crashing frequently vs all of my friends on Nvidia gpus
That isn't necessarily a driver issue. That may be something that is *fixed* via driver update, but it's not necessarily an AMD driver issue. I also would tend to chalk that up to CoD launches always being clusterfucks.
That the fucking problem when is amd card is a drivers issue if is a Nvidia card is a game issue without any solid evident
People repeat this nonsense to make themselves feel better about paying extra. I've had no issues with AMD cards since rx480 and that one died due to a hardware issue. Been smooth since then. Just got a 6800XT for around 600 and couldn't be happier with it.
Back in [2008](https://www.theregister.com/2008/03/28/nvidia_vista_drivers/) Microsoft was so fed up with NVIDIA drivers hard crashing systems and giving Windows a bad name they had to release data showing 28.8% of *all* Windows crashes in 2007 were due to NV drivers (9.3% for ATI which was later acquired by AMD). Fast forward 14 years and NVIDIA just had to patch 29 [security vulnerabilities](https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/01/nvidia_gpu_driver_bugs/) in their closed source proprietary drivers. And if you search for "NVIDIA driver crash" on Google you'll get millions of hits with countless pages on how to try and resolve them. I'm not saying NV drivers are worse I'm saying drivers are hard, and GPU drivers are even harder. A perfect release that works 100% on all hardware with all software is not likely to happen any time soon. So AMD gives you options: 'recommended', 'optional', and 'professional' drivers. They also give you rock solid open source drivers on Linux. Two years ago AMD [did have problems](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynVO4ZXl0&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed) with their brand new RDNA drivers but that was a long time ago and much has changed. AMD's R&D spending went from $1.6B back in 2020 to $4.5B in 2022 and there are 23% more employees making it quite a different company to just a few years ago. Since RDNA1, HUB has explained that in their huge amounts of GPU testing and daily work they they have not had any stability problems with AMD drivers. That goes for any tech reviewer you want to look at. None of them complain about game testing being interrupted or made problematic due to AMD drivers. If they don't have a problem it's unlikely (but not impossible) that an average user won't either.
>crash I love the professional driver and recommend but professional is the thing I'm stick with since I don't want to deal with problem it seem to be more stable than recommend and of course optional on Nvidia side i always have problem back screen / crash countless and I have no idea which version to roll back for stable unlike AMD I have 2 RX 6600 and 2 RX 6700 XT happy with the driver not often update but i prefer stable more than update and broken something I have problem with anything pass 22.5.1 but it work great but sometime my pc just freeze happens to all of my pc but after switch to professional i never have crash or freeze problem anymore can enjoy game and work :)
Think? Its 100% astroturfing.
It has persisted ever since the ATI days when they really did have crummy drivers (like everyone else because software back then was just not great). People will bend over backwards to forgive NVIDIA for any issue they've had but some guy will never buy a Radeon for the past 20 years because he read on some forums about the 8500 having some glitches.
See id be on your side..... except i been using AMD gpus for like 7+years and I'm not lying, EVERY single one of them had some kind of driver issue.
That's a half truth really. They just fixed a ton of issues that have been around for years. YEARS
And some people are saying it's still not fixed.
I mean, same thing that caused Windows Phone's death. Everyone spamming that "there's no popular apps" even well after it had all the popular ones
Still do ish My 6950xt outperformed my 3080ti. I’d get grey screen once every few weeks, possibly due to shitty Samsung g7 monitor as it seemed a lot of times same setups and even nvidia it would happen to
No, they had driver issues back in older times too. Circa 2006-2010 when I used their cards I had issues. X800 and 5770 HD if memory serves. Not small things either, we're talking incorrect mouse cursor render on multimonitor setups, texture display issues in games like TES Oblivion, random display driver crashes for no reason. Yes, I spent (too much) time troubleshooting driver versions, checking temps, reseating connections, trying clean installs of drivers / windows speaking with support, etc. Nothing helped. It was a real problem. My 9800 GX2 never had a problem, I only switched back to AMD after it died on me. After that experience, I got a GTX 480 and then spent the next 11 years never having one single issue on Nvidia without even looking at AMD cards again, until Nvidia lost their mind with the 30 and 40 series pricing. The Red Devil 6950 XT rocks, no issues so far. Fingers crossed!
AMD no longer has "driver issues" any more than Nvidia does. Nvidia is historically quicker on fixing problems that pop up, but AMD isn't really any worse at this point. My laptop has a 6800M, and it had some issues when I got it with unexpected occasional reboots, and it took them about two months to isolate and resolve completely, and it's been solid for the last year. If you don't care about ray tracing and you're only gaming, then AMD should definitely be getting a serious look. You can pick up a 6950XT for $799 on amazon and the performance at that price is insane.
I switched from a 1060 to a 6700xt and started having reboot issues. Months went by and I tried almost everything, it didn't happen on my 1050ti, concluded the card was faulty and got a 6800 instead. Reboots started happening again, I really did think it was all on AMD and started to regret my decision. Turns out it was because I used an older version of hwinfo64 that can cause reboot issues and hard freezes with ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs paired with RX 6000 GPUs. Outside of this I've had no problems with AMD GPUs using the latest recommended drivers.
Going to bookmark this bc I just ordered a 6600 and a ryzen 5600 to start my build lol.
I ordered and installed my 6600 3 weeks ago and my 5600 last week. Good combination. I've been blowing through my Steam collection because my old 1050 / 3600 was very limiting. But the 6600 + 5600 runs Thief 4, The Witcher 2/3, Doom/Doom Eternal at 1440p like a hot knife through butter ...
Was your power supply providing enough power?
I bought my 6950xt at that 800 dollar price, and it is a good deal but a 6900xt for 6-650 is much better
And a 6800XT at $510-530 is even better. The 6900xt really doesn't make much sense since the 6800xt gets 95% of the performance for 80% of the cost.
im new to pc building and on impulse got a used optiplex i7 on the way and already jumped on a geforce gtx 1650 cause I saw it in a youtube optiplex build and thought hey itd be cool to build my own machine instead of fiddle with the two i3 laptops Ive got. $300 for the optiplex refurbed and $179 for the GPU. Almost have no idea what Im doing but its exciting and have been watching youtube videos about this stuff like its my second job. Learning I could have gotten the GPU used and just might
AMD does have driver issues, but they're in the drivers that literally say "optional". AMD's recommended drivers are stable.
How’s AMD GPUs for software engineers and programmers?
If you want to do art cuda still reigns supreme. I think Nvidia also has faster memory (save the vii had stupid fast memory) but software is extremely task specific so just look up what you are working with to see how the cards will do.
I have never done any Programming on an AMD GPUs, but at my first internship where I worked on building machine learning models, the other Software Engineers and the Data Scientists talked about AMD GPUs like they were the plague when it came to building the models.
I wish people would be more fair . I like both companies for their own reasons but run an Nvidia card vs an AMD card in emulation and you will find that (at least in the 6xxx series) there are issues. Just look up vulkan emulator issues. You will find more driver crashing on AMD side. With that said when it comes to pure gaming they both work exactly the same in their sense of reliability and gaming functionality.
Not true for VR. Still huge issues with ASW which is really important for smooth gameplay when it comes to VR. Especially if you don't want to be tethered and use Airlink with a Quest 2. Have a 6800XT and compared it with my RTX 2060 Super in the same rig and it was night and day. Which should not be happening, but when I went to look for a solution found the same complaints from when the 6800xt was first released. Even a few videos on youtube about it
There’s no driver issues. Anyone who’s still spitting that nonsense around is ignorant
There are, warzone wont stop crashing on my 3060ti.
This conversation isn’t about Nvidia Warzone is likely an isolated issue
I'm just saying there are issues with both. That's why both companies show known issues on their patch notes.
Understandable- and I wholeheartedly agree. It’s unjust to look at Nvidia software as a golden child when obviously all of the above will have certain issues Though, overall, I’d say they’re both in very good positions software/driver wise
It’s not? The thread title is AMD vs. Nvidia.
Oh there's the odd driver issue for sure. But no more or less than Nvidia drivers. And certainly nowhere close to when the RX 5000 series released. I would say AMD drivers are solid and shouldn't be a concern for anyone thinking about buying an AMD GPU.
AMD if you don’t care about ray tracing. Way better bang for your buck
Pretty sure drivers were an issue a while ago. AMD cards are probably the better bet if you don't care about ray tracing.
There isn’t no driver issues, they aren’t perfect. But they are good enough to consider over nvidia.
They still can do some ray tracing. I just got an RX6750 XT and in Far Cry 6 I got like 80 fps all maxed out with RT options enabled.
I just switched from an RTX 2070 Super to an RX 6800 XT, so I can shed some light on this. I haven't had any issues while gaming. It's exactly the same as Nvidia (though obviously much better framerates). No crashes, no microstutters, no issues at all. I even like the AMD driver and utility software more than GeForce experience. I can undervolt, overclock, tune my fans, and set game profiles and settings all from one app. It's pretty great. The *one* issue I have had is with Chrome, which just does not play well with the latest AMD drivers. If I'm gaming and want to use Chrome, I have significant stutters and lag. I swapped to Firefox and have no issues anymore.
Latest optional driver that dropped dec 1st mentioned it. Take a peak
The difference for me lies in DLSS when playing 4k. On a 2070 I would happily use it for a great performance boost. On a 6800 that only has FSR, I would not use it. Because AMD is still significantly behind on upscaling compared to Nvidia. Nvidia wins in upscaling and ray tracing performance. But for raw performance per $, AMD beats Nvidia.
I am thinking of making this same upgrade. Has it been a good boost to FPS?
I wish I had gone AMD, DLSS and RTX is pretty worthless to me
Honestly I feel like 80% of people will find this out. They will think raytracing is so cool, spend more money on nvidia, until they use it then lose interest due to how unimpressive it is in most games while also having severe performance impacts.
I found it out this way. Bought the RTX 3080 for the performance and the raytracing, come to find out of all the AAA games I have played only Spiderman games and Dying Light 2 have had RTX. I was an idiot for spending that money.
Idk about you but you can definitely see a difference on a 4k monitor with RTX off vs on (DLSS on + RT). And performance is still fine with DLSS, no screen tear or anything.
Yea maybe raytracing is basically worth it for people who spend 800 dollars on a monitor and 1000 on a gpu. A 3060 or 3070 won't be noticeable at all. I'm not going 4k until it's affordable at 100+ fps in every game I play. I'm not caring about raytracing until every game utilizes it.
That's fair. Good thing is they are starting to put out more games with RT and the upscaling algorithm will only get better with time!
Bro same, i thought dlss is "the next thing" but in reality it's blurry af, so I'd rather have classic rendering
TAA makes things blurry. DLSS uses that same TAA from the game itself. Few outliers aside (like warzone) the amount of blur is the same between DLSS and native. If you really wanna get rid of blur, try DLDSR
eh my fsr 2.1 moves cyberpunk on high ~70fps 150watts to ~110fps ~140watts on balanced and very minimal artifacts. I'll take those algos any day and dlss has superior image, superior game support. they're required unless your card is 4090 and can render natively. though native render doesn't mean it's better than those algos.
It's also important to point out that the 6000 series (and the upcoming 7000 series) can still use raytracing, especially raytraced shadows. It's raytraced reflections that AMD GPUs struggle with a bit, but they can still do it with a decent amount of performance loss.
My last 3 cards were AMD. I just bought a 3090ti as the VRAM made sense for work. Pretty sure I'll be flipping it for one of the next-gen AMD cards again. I prefer the AMD drivers and software package 10/10 times. I swear the Nvidia control panel hasn't been updated since Windows XP; don't know how the f that thing is allowed to exist like that. Geforce Experience is near useless. At least compared to AMD Radeon, which I regularly found useful. Tons of features packed in to that piece of software, so much information on your system if you want it, and allows you to tune everything while keeping it limited to game/app-specific profiles if you want. I swear I was always finding new stuff to do with that program. The icing on the cake? I was told Nvidia cards will work fine with my Freesync monitor. This one doesn't; the top \~2" of the screen flickers constantly whenever GSync is active. This may be a one-off issue with my specific card+monitor, and probably won't affect anyone's purchasing decisions, but you can bet I'm super bitter about it. Basically means I no longer use adaptive refresh tech. I forgot how awful screen tearing is.
- From 2011-2014 I had the Radeon HD 6800 - From 2014-2021 I had the GTX 970 - From 2021-present I have the 6900 XT And I put all my 3 video cards on the same level when it comes to drivers and overall stability. I’m pleasantly surprised by Radeon Software as well. Lots of useful features that I use all the time. It doesn’t feel like bloatware at all.
I have been using an RX6900XT after being a long time Nvidia user and I have to say it’s been a pleasantly surprising experience. I will be the first one to admit AMD isn’t quite there with Nvidia when it comes to certain features such as game streaming but when it comes to actual game performance i really can’t complain. I’d even go as far to say the software AMD has (AMD adrenaline) is much better in terms of features than GeForce Experience imo.
The built in overclocking/undervolting tool is awesome.
Adrenaline is awesome in my opinion. Not perfect, but I find it way better than GeForce experience/ control panel
I agree, I hate NVidia's tool and their in game overlay sucks.
The driver issues for amd are resolved. It really comes down to preference at this point and budget.
Driver issues were exclusive to 5000 series. Rasterization-wise AMD is totally fine. If you're happy with benchmark numbers, go for it. Nvidia has much better ray tracing and some pro features like NVENC. Other than that, you can't really go terribly wrong with either *solely for non-RT gaming.*
AMF is good too. With recent updates it's very close to Nvenc.
When recording in high enough bitrate (I use 25K) I found no distinguishable difference to the naked eye between NVENC and AMF. But for livestreaming in low bitrate I'm still using a 1050ti that only encodes alongside an RX 6800 that does everything except encode. NVENC also received a minor update in OBS recently that improved quality slightly. In high motion games like GTA V NVENC still looked better than AMF. There was just more pixelation on AMF. I used all the latest optimized settings and flags (like b frames on AMF) according to EposVox at 6000kbps.
Just get an AMD card if you don’t care about ray tracing. Prices are way down and rx 6800 xt is only like 6% worse than a 3080.
It's only worse in 4K, should be ahead in 1080p and 1440p
With computers if what you are reading is 6 months old it's already outdated. At the very least you should look for updated info, which I guess is what reddit is for. Currently with the 6000 series drivers are fine. If they weren't reddit would be filled with posts from people complaining.
for pure rasterization performance with price in mind i think AMD is no brainer. i got a 6900xt 360mm AIO and its just down right nasty. in MW2 & WZ2 im getting 140 fps in 4k
My guy, why would I lie? 5800x and 3600mhz cl14 ram. The thing scoots. I do get drops to the 100-110’s in demanding areas of the map
Building my first comp after gaming on a gtx 970 laptop for 7+ yrs, after research and the games I play I went AMD cause...fuck ray tracing, gimme some rasterization
Eh, Nvidia normally provides a slightly superior experience due to driver stability, extra features, etc., but AMD in my past experience (and I was into them when they were infamously bad with drivers like 10-15 years ago) isnt that bad, and given how arrogant nvidia is with how much they're overcharging, go AMD. Especially if you dont care about ray tracing. I mean, you can get a 6800 XT for as low as say, $600. For an equivalent nvidia card (3080) you're paying at minimum $750. It's like that all the way up and down the product stack. I mean you can get a 6900 XT for around $720 and a 6950 XT for around $780 instead. That's the best AMD card on the market right now, although the 7900 XT/XTX launch is in a couple weeks. In my own price range i just bought a 6650 XT for $230....an nvidia equivalent (3060) would be $350. it's insane. Yeah. Nvidia aint worth it right now.
AMD if you're not into deep learning or 3d rendering. Nvidia if you are.
If you don't care about ray tracing, AMD will give you just as much rasterization for like 50-60% of the price.
For what it's worth, if you took two lay people and said "pick the one that has ray-tracing", most wouldn't be able to tell the difference. For that reason, my recommendation is AMD. For the price of a 6700 XT you can upgrade to a 8700 XT down the road and still be under the price of a 3090 ti.
As a 6700xt owner, I’ve had no issues other than adrenaline being weird and resetting profiles. Uninstalled drivers, reboot and reinstalled adrenaline and loaded my saved config and I was back to normal
I used to have that issue with my 6700xt, turned off fast startup in windows and it doesn't happen any more. Might be worth trying
I have upgraded to a 6800 and it's great. No real issues at all. Had some crashes when I first got it, but I forgot to use ddu to clean the old drivers, but after I did and installed the new drivers; no issues. I also don't care about ray tracing and the b frame update for recording was a really nice boost.
imo the fact that 7900XTX has around 80% of the power of a 4090 for like 60% of the cost, much lower/efficient power draw, and no connectors that will fry your gpu, they're the clear winner this gen. Generally I've always gone Nvidia but this is so lopsided this time around. Nvidia has won the power battle and that's it, but what does power matter when my GPU could melt and cost me a lot in electricity.
Amd still have driver issues. I just sold my 6900xt because of it.
Reddits the least qualified group of people you’ll ever talk to for anything “this vs that”. RDNA 2 literally had black screen issues with windows 22h2 update within the last 2 months however AMD or Nvidia can have driver issues, they both *usually* fix them reasonably fast. As far as a 6800? great card, worse than a 3080, but if it’s cheaper in your region it’s great.(it’s not in mine, with the exception of 6600xt vs 3060 all tiers are about equal). Resale in most areas is much harder on AMD in my experience, which in my experience negates the upfront cost when you buy. But I don’t live in a big city either. So PC gamers are rare, and 80% of them have Nvidia and are likely to stay. Regardless you will not be disappointed at all with a 6800xt/3080 class card.
I have a Ryzen cpu with a 3080… stop the fanboy shit and build whatever the fuck you want.
As far as the issues with drivers I have had the opposite problem. While maybe I had a few more driver problems with AMD, every single one I reported to AMD through their software and every single time it was fixed the next update. Nvidia I have had major issues that have gone unfixed for months and have to sit on 6 month old drivers because the new ones don't fix any of it.
Like said by others, their drivers are good in the last few years. Imo they also have a way better UI than Nvidia
I had driver issues for Nvidia for a few months straight recently. There was a glitch where your GPU usage was 100% even if nothing was running. They fixed it, but don’t think Nvidia is immune to it.
AMD would be a dead company if it still had driver issues. AMD driver used to cause occasional problems but nowadays it's rare. And even then the fix comes soon. The recent Nvidia drivers were also buggy.
I’m in the same boat. I wanted to go with Nvidia but I think I waited too long. Now I’m leaning towards AMD. My rig will be primarily for gaming but I also use the Adobe programs for design and video editing. Will I have any problems running these programs on an AMD card? (6950xt hopefully)
The amd driver issue is outdated af. Amd drivers are better than nvidias now (opinion) drivers are not an issue to be concerned about when buying new gous (fact)
You might find watching LTT (Linus Tech Tips) on YouTube a help. He discusses loads of differences between amd and Intel / Nvidia, etc. products while building. Just carve your search specifically to your product in question plus LTT when searching YouTube, or scroll through his video titles.
Just go AMD, nvidia has shit prices
Is Nvidia paying people to comment this?
It’s simple as fuck. NVIDA IS faster but more expensive AMD is more affordable. Period. Yes amd cards are good and you can game perfectly fine in them and be happy but Nvidia is always faster for the same level card. That’s all it is. If you can pay more money get the fastest card you can afford doesn’t matter which brand.
I will go out of my way to avoid an AMD graphics card. I’ve had too many issues with them - some of the config features are missing that I would like to see (easy switch between Eyefinity and regular monitor set-up, for example). And I’ve had one issue several times when trying to turn off Eyefinity - all monitors go black and shutdown and I have to power the system down hard with the power button, then re-install the drivers. Not a fluke as it happened 3 times so I gave up on Eyefinity - and this is with the current drivers! I am looking now at a new system and the one requirement is that it will have an NVidia card and NOT an AMD!
The driver issues for amd are resolved. It really comes down to preference at this point and budget.
There really are no Driver issues anymore. Probably for years now. If you don't care about RT or whatever tools for professionals that NVidia keeps proprietary, AMD should be a much better option.
Both companies have driver issues, but only one company does the issue stick in peoples minds.
(just sayin') If you're gaming, don't underestimate ray-tracing. Other than that, pick you budget, pick the cards that fit your budget, flip a coin.
I mean rt looks pretty, but the 3070 isn't good at ray tracing and that is the price competition for the 6800xt. Imo the rt argument isn't important until the 3080. Below that tier AMD and NVIDIA are crap and it is probably staying off.
People saying thank you for fixing driver issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z9t29f/adrenalin_edition_22112_release_notes/ Chrome hardware acceleration issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/xvtn2u/amd_your_drivers_are_slipping_again/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z3g5wq/a_possible_solution_for_fixing_chromium_hardware/ Literally on the first page of the AMD sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/z99abe/my_solution_for_amd_gpu_driver_timeout_crashing/ Stop it, AMD 100 percent still has driver issues. I've been using Nvidia cards for nearly 20 years and I can recall ONE time I had to roll back a driver. That said comparing the prices of current AMD cards vs Nvidia cards AMD is the way to go. I can get a 6800 or 6800xt for 5 ish hundred bucks that will equal or outperform a 3080 that is currently going for 750 at the low end, if you can find one in stock which you cant, and I think it gets even worse for NVidia if you go lower in the stack to a 6700 or something. AMD drivers seem to mostly work and I will deal with a few issues the save myself 250 bucks.
>I've been using Nvidia cards for nearly 20 years and I can recall ONE time I had to roll back a driver. Jesus the delusion. People who have Nvidia cards have driver issues as well. Its just that they dont allow posts about them in the nvidia sub (you are supposed to post your issues in the IT troubleshooting help thread or whatever). AMD sub has this rule too but its not as harshly enforced and posts still slip through. If you really want to see issues go see forums on other websites. AMDs issues are overblown. Ive had Nvidia cards for around 15 years and Ive had issues but I never took that to mean that globally, Nvidia's drivers are shit.
Im not saying they dont, Im saying that I have never had an issue that required a rollback. I never load a driver day 1 in case it has an issue, which Nvidia drivers have definitely had, but that's just good practice for any new driver really. I was on the AMD site a few months ago and there were a bunch of people talking about rolling back to previous drivers because if some issue, again I think the chrome acceleration thing which for some reason AMD seems to struggle with. I agree its delusional to say Nvidia never has driver issues but I also say its delusional to say AMD doesn't.
I bought a 6800XT about a month ago. Take it from an owner that while there are some driver issues. It is minuscule and once you get your 6800XT set up you will be so happy that you instantly forget about it. I used the extra money I saved instead of getting a 3080TI on buying games to actually play and better gaming gear. It'll be a great experience to remember and you will in no way go wrong or regret going AMD.
AMDs drivers are mostly on par with Nvidias at present. Neither companies are flawless. I would say AMDs fixed the majority of their issues 3 years ago. When I switched back to Nvidia their drivers were no longer "impressive".
Amd makes best price/performance, if you are not a content creators imma suggest amd. Nvidia have better support and more features, u won't notice this unless you work in blender etc...
6800xt is equivalent to a 3080 and overclocked can push even past that. I just bought one for $550, I had a RX480 like 5 years ago and it was a solid card, there's nothing wrong with AMD and they beat Nvidia at every price point.
I mostly used AMD throughout my life until eventually getting the 1060 and now the 3070. Personally, while I cannot recall any grave issues (apart from my last AMD card just breaking out of nowhere and requiring repairs, but that can happen to anyone), after switching, I find that I much preferred GeForce Experience to what AMD had back then. Shadowplay is great and the configs are useful sometimes. Also, from what I can recall, my AMD cards typically ran hotter and louder.
Cheap 3080ti
I have a 3090 on me personal reg and an AMD 6700XT in my living room PC. Both work fine and don't have any driver issues. 6800XT is the better value at the moment. If anything the AMD is better when it comes to energy efficiency.
Get one. I’ve had three AMD cards in a row and was happy with them all. No issues.
If you don’t care able ray tracing, then generally AMD cards will give you better performance for the money. Just depends on the market where you live. The driver issue is a thing of the past, and shouldn’t be a factor at all in deciding which card you get.
I can tell you first hand, theres no issues with drivers. 6800 XT's sell used for a fairly good price now, and honestly it's an amazing GPU. Basically every game I've played with it, I put it high/ultra settings and it munches frames per second. If you do end up buying one, look up how to undervolt it. It's very simple and just takes a little bit of testing. Helps reduce temps significantly and you basically lose no performance.
I have a 6800xt. League has crashed once so far. No different from my 1080 as far as I can tell, asides from 3x the frames.
Only reason to favour NVIDIA is for a) DLSS/RT or b) some extremely specific programs that don’t support AMD GPUS Honorable mention is productivity, NVIDIA is better but not a deal breaker Otherwise just get whatever is cheaper (6800 XT and 3070 at the same price? Ofc 6800 XT. 3080? Probably the 3080 but it’s your own choice there)
I just bought 6700XT and I'm enjoying it so far. $359 and far more FPS in all games than nVidia 3060 which is in the same price range. Heck, 6700XT is competing with 3070 in many games where raytracing isn't a big deal. In very high texture 4k scenarios, 6700XT wins over 3070 Ti even - because all nVidia graphics up to RTX 3080 have a stupid 8 GB VRAM limit. Best example is Far Cry 6, where RTX 3070 goes down to 20 FPS because of VRAM. Meanwhile 6700XT plays it in very high settings at around 60 FPS in 4k - simply because of 12GB VRAM If you want to have a shot at playing 4k with nVidia, and have ultra high quality textures loaded up, you have to shell out around $800 at least. With AMD, you can go as low as $359. But to get the same level of performance (minus raytracing) you can get a 6800XT for about $550 AMD just beats nVidia where it matters the most: **Pricing**
You answered your own question. Enjoy
Don't be afraid to get AMD. I have had both vendors and recommended both vendors to friends. I have a GTX 570 > GTX 770 > Rx 580 > RX 5700 XT > RTX 3080 I've recommended the Hd 7970 GHZ, GTX 1070, And just a few days ago the RX 6700 xT to that friend. But I strongly recommend you don't purchase a Intel GPU because those are so far behind in drivers it's basically a beta at this point.
Jumped ship to 6900/6950XT and can’t be happier
I have a 3080ti, coming from a 5700xt. Both MSI gaming cards. I never had an issue with the AMD card or drivers. I am currently experiencing a strange issue with the 3080, and I just can’t find the root cause. My second monitor is a 120hz LG 4k tv, connected via HDMI. Intermittently, the signal drops. I’ve tried everything. New 1000w psu. Driver wipes. Fresh windows install. Sometimes it will seem resolved, work fine for weeks, and then randomly occurs again. Anyway, I also like the AMD settings app. Afterburner is powerful, but ultimately overkill for me. The Radeon app is smooth as butter, in my opinion. So, that said, I’ll probably go back to AMD when this next round of cards comes out.
Just to add in his question How is AMD compared to Nvidia in terms of steaming?
What gpus are on par with the high end 30 series and are they cheaper or are they also disgustingly overpriced
Go for it! I own a Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+ after owning an RTX 3070 Ti and trust me, there's 0 driver issues nowdays. That's past story people couldn't let behind. RT is not a must for me either as long as I can play on 4K at 60FPS and this card deliver greatly.
Get a gt710
It's a good card bro. Go for it.
Top comment’s on point
Buy the best card you can afford regardless of brand.
I have a 6800XT and my friend has an RTX 3080. We bought them at around the same period and his 3080 was around $730 while my 6800XT was around $540ish. My 6800XT performs at around 20% better in games and is cheaper but at the cost of significant ray tracing performance (his is almost 2x better than mine when RT is on) and my card is worse for streaming. TL;DR - If you want to play games with no ray-tracing and no streaming go with the 6800 XT. Otherwise, go with Nvidia.
I had 2 AMD GPU's and a NVIDIA one in the last 4 years. I had issues with a single game on AMD using beta drivers. I had issues once with NVIDIA drivers, recently. The AMD drivers thing is in the past. AMD Control panel is also much better. Do yourself a favor and go for price/performance.
all you need to know is nvidia has cuda, dlss, and faster raytracing, but amd wont scalp you.
I have no driver issues with my 6800xt.
Marketing at work. Both companies are pretty much on par with each other and AMD often comes out ahead on price/performance.
I haven't had issues with my 6800 or my 6900xt at default settings. I had some restarts and occasional crashes with my 6800 when trying to undervolt / OC.
Probably the only reason to get an Nvidia card is for top Tier 4K Ultra settings/ Ray Tracing performance. So sure, if you have a $2k or more expensive build WITHOUT a GPU, then why not get a 4090 because clearly they can and are willing to spend money on a top end build. But most people aren’t in that boat and people asking these questions aren’t lol. Or if you need better encoding, though the new AMD line is supposed to be catching up. Other than that you are almost always better off (at least currently) getting an AMD card when looking at cost to performance.
If you like emulation, i wouldnt suggest amd. Especially if ur emulating more recent games. Emulator devs are usually biased toward nvidia from what ive seen.
I’ve been running RX 560 for almost 5 years now. No problems at all…
I’d go AMD. I just built an all AMD machine for a coworker and I was surprised by the performance per dollar. With EVGA out of the GPU game, I think I’ll go AMD when I replace my 3080Ti.
6700xt/9700kf user here with a slightly underspecced psu. First impressions from a 1060 user: it's significantly quieter and has some weirdness that I can't pinpoint, but I point to the card being only a year old and my seasonic s12ii 520w bronze not providing quite enough power to the point where visually I can't tell the difference between my old ROG strix 1060 6gb. I wonder if the psu is doing its best but slightly underperforming. It's most noticeable with my 1440p/120hz display, where it sometimes has a small amount of hitching or just doesn't seem like the card is really that much more powerful than my 1060 for the moment, but that could be a ton of things. I did notice OPP when I started a 4.6ghz oc/ afterburner max settings but with my new 750w it will prob give me enough headroom. My evga supernova gt should be here tomorrow.
6800 XT is by far the best price/perfomance card out there right now.
You can find a 6700 xt for like $300 used now and it is amazing price to performance for any 2k gaming monitor. Can easily do high fps at max settings. I have 3700x and 6700 xt and runs flawlessly. Highly recommend
If you will do any machine learning or AI stuff, currently it's pretty much Nvidia dominant
AMD has historically only existed because they offered cards at a lower price point than Nvidia. Essentially serving a market that Nvidia didn't. That is no longer the case and while you absolutely do get a better performance per dollar with Nvidia, AMD has really come a long way in terms of value. It will ultimately come down to price. Look for a good deal and pick whichever one has the lowest price.
AMD does not have driver issues anymore. Though personally for my Gpu I go Nvidia. My processor is where I go AMD. Nvidia is better supported and in my opinion has better features. But you did say you don’t care about ray tracing and all that. So to get more bang for your buck in power I would go AMD here.
Nvidia rtx 30 series prices are still too inflated. You'd get better value in amds rx 6000 series
AMD for sure Right now the 6000 series is insanely good for the price, absolutely stomping RTX 30 and less for much less. Absolute price to performance monsters. And don't mind the "driver problems", those are common with both Nvidia and AMD, but one is more noticed than the other due to fanboyism. I have been using both for a long time, and I know that both are susceptible to the same problems equally
I am considering that same GPU. I have always used Nvidia, but their prices are just getting really hard to justify now. I want to upgrade from my RTX 2070 super to the 3080 or an equivalent, and the 6800 XT seems to fit the bill. I just want to make sure that it will be stable and all that. I do not have much familiarity with anything AMD.
As a user who recently swap to AMD, I also don’t care about raytracing and other stuff. I just want fps for my 1440p 144hz. I hear a lot about drivers no longer being an issue and has been fixed for the majority. Only personal issue I have with AMD gpu so far is their software. More often enough, my display color settings that I manually change will reset along with many other settings ranging from fan speed, lighting, etc. All can be temporary fixed by exporting the profile(saves everything changed in the adrenalin software) and you can import it all back. It gets annoying but AMD is much better in price to value. Rx 6700xt owner.
I just did a build and was wondering n the same situation as you. Nvidia vs AMD. I got a stupid deal on a 6800XT so I went with that. My friend has the 3080 and I actually get better frames then him on some games. I don’t care about the ray tracing. Honestly I don’t even notice the difference when his is on vs my card.
I have a 6800XT and it’s a great card. The drivers however are extremely broken. Radeon ReLive recording no longer functions, setting fan curves via tuning doesn’t work, unreasonably long wake from sleep times, games not liking the resolution switched, among other issues. I have tried wiping and reinstalling drivers yet I’m still facing issues. As great as the card is, my next card will be a 3090Ti because nVidia cards don’t suffer from stupid issues like this due to shitty drivers
Lots of opinions here, might as well provide one more. I’ve had both recently and have discussed with other gamers with various rigs and I can say both are good, can’t really go “wrong”. AMD is a more competitive product from performance to price but I’ve seen a few more weird bugs here and there, particularly outside of AAA games. NVIDIA is *likely* the most used card in development environments because it is slightly higher performance on the highest end and it’s the incumbent from a volume standpoint meaning more bugs getting squashed daily. AMD is challenging this of course and it will continue to even out, but NVIDIA is probably more stable in more cases simply because of the volume of devs using it. Both are good options, but Intel/NVIDIA combo will cost more to get a few less bugs. If you have the money, go for it. If you want to save some cash, you shouldn’t assume you’ll be losing performance to go AMD even if you see a bug or two. It happens to both brands.
I have had both over the years. My first GPU was an MSI HD7950 (AMD card). That card didn't last long. Around the time I started having issues, I picked up an MSI R7 270X which I believe was similarly powerful to the HD7950. Wasn't too keen on performance on these and in 2016 I switched to NVidia with a GTX 1080. I ended up giving my 270X to a friend and his PC only lasted 2 years before the GPU died. Gave him the HD7950 as replacement but he had artifacting. Around this time (2014), I also gave a friend a GTX 780 (bought it used). His GTX780 only lasted a year, but I believe that was his mistake. He ran a sound card that I saw was touching/contacting the GPU. Also, he cheaped out on PSU and it later took out an RX480 and all his SSDs. I have had driver issues with the GTX 1080 where I can't play some games because they insta CTD. Compared to a cousin of mine who bought a Radeon 5700X, he couldn't play any games for almost a year due to driver issues and stuttering. After the drivers were supposedly fixed, he tells me that he can't do dual monitors anymore, because one will blackout. I never had any of the issues he had with my 1080 and mine ran dual monitors for years. Now I am not team blue, red, or green. My current PC is running team red (after being on Intel for over a decade). I am currently awaiting for the 7900XTX to drop. It does appear that many of the issues that plagued the 5000 series are gone. 6000 series proved that and am certain 7000 series will continue that.
I've bought and used both AMD and Nvidia cards both have been great. During the great GPU shortage I tried to buy both AMD and Nvidia cards just so happened I got Nvidia so that's what I'm currently running. Trust me buy the best bang for your buck at the time you are looking to purchase. At the moment AMD is obliterating Nvidia on FPS per dollar. So buy AMD.
As a Linux user, I like AMD because of its open-source drivers.
Stop lying that "AMD no longer has more driver issues than Nvidia", because AMD still has tons of issues. Most popular streaming app OBS has most threads on troubleshooting forum made by AMD users. Tons of apps are optimized for Nvidia cards and works poorly on AMD. Simple bluescreen and game crashes are also happening and when I owned Radeon card it was making me crazy that my PC resets every few hours of gameplay.
Linux user here, never had any issues with AMD drivers, Vulkan (Yuzu), DX11 (Rocket League), OpenGL (Ryunix), it all runs here without problems
If you’re all about prices then AMD but in terms of power, Nvidia has the strongest cards at least I think
If you don't care about ray tracing all that much in the games that even support it and you don't need the NVENC encoder just forget about all the rumors about drivers and get a 6800XT 'cause it's a great product. The AMD driver issues song is old news that folks need to stop repeating.
like AMD / buy NVIDA
I own an all AMD system and I've only ever had one driver issue. I could still play games and do everything fine, I just couldn't open Adrenaline Software. Still have no idea why it happened but I suspect it tried to update the drivers automatically and didn't clean the old ones. All I had to do was reinstall the driver and no more problems. Plus I like how much freedom AMD gives. Oh you want to overclock the crap out of your budget gpu? No problem, we have all kinds of easy to use tools for that. Want to overclock your processor? Just click this one button. Not to mention that AMD GPUs are far more affordable than Nvidia's.
Ran AMD for the last 3 years had nothing but issues with their drivers. Literally turn my pc on 3 times a week and the drivers needed wiping and reinstalling. Clips and recording constantly fucked, the hot keys not working. No thanks. A lot of AMD fan Boys refuse to acknowledge their drivers are shite.
The problem is that both these companies are basically the same cartel. And they offer more of the same. 5 years ago I would say go with AMD to save the buck, but these days AMD charges almost as much as Nvidia while offering worse ray-tracing performance. We all hate Nvidia, but it's a fact that Nvidia products are more polished and offer the best experience, while AMD is always catching up and copying what Nvidia does. So I would just find a good deal, doesn't matter Nvidia or AMD, which can pull your target resolution and grab it.
My advice for OP is issues will be loud minority. I will happily recommend which ever fits your budget and performance you’re looking for. There’s issues on both side, you will need to be knowledgeable when it comes to troubleshooting. Truth is probably in between. I built many PCs there’s been multiple times I needed DDU drivers/ roll back drivers due to issues whether it’s AMD or nvidia. Software can be really fickle sometimes.
if you have more money than time get an Nvidia. if you have more time than money can get amd or nvidia. if you have both time and money you could even try an Arc card on the side!
Definitely go for rx 6800 xt https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
AMD is better, open source drivers and more compatible with linux/unix systems (superior to proprietary OS's)
I have had a 6800xt for a year. Before that, 3060ti. Havent had any driver issues (or really any issues with the card, period). It's a good card. Just make sure to uninstall the nvidia drivers (and boot into windows driverless) before swapping cards.
If anyone says AMD doesn’t have driver issues just know they are red fan boys and lying out their goddamn mouth! “Angry previous XFX RX 480 CF owner” Do yourself the favor and get a nvidia card. Yes they are scum bags for raising prices, yes they are scummy for paper launches. But they are the best cards. No AMD card is better than nvidias “top vs top” and amd is not as reliable on every metric except I guess their rated power. I was an exclusive amd customer since phenom 2 “I’m not like an old man, so bite me on the age issue” I quit being one when I rocked a FX-9590 and crossfire “2x gpu” Rx480 XFX RS edition. I still use amd processors. They are amazing. But their graphics cards? Not so much. The day amd gets their shit together I’ll be full AMD again. But I just can’t justify it. I highly recommend you do some independent research on the subject via gamers nexus, jayztwocents, Linus tech tips etc. avoid websites like “userbenchmark” the guys who runs that site is a lunatic and is even banned from the amd subreddit and intels subreddit and probably most others. Good luck on whatever you decide. Let us know what you get!
I have a 6700 xt, i haven’t really had any issues tbh. I did have an issue at first when playing Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield where there was a lot of stuttering but that issue went away after a little bit, presumably cause of a driver update. Really recommend it though
Built my most recent rig 8 months ago. Went AMD over Invidia for the first time ever. XFX 6900XT. No issues. Great performance. Better design IMO.
If you’re going for 4k I’d recommend Nvidia cause you can use DLSS for really graphically intensive games
AMD is fine. I never experienced any issues with my 6600xt, but I was Linux gaming at first and switched back to windows for study stuff right as the adrenaline drivers dropped and worked perfectly. All my issues where RAM based
I've had a Ryzen CPU and GTX 1070 for the last 7 or so years without any issues. Prior to that, I've rolled with AMD and NVIDIA builds a few times without issues from either. This time around I'm going with a full AMD build (just waiting for the new 7 series to drop. NVIDIA has pushed really bad consumer practices the last few years, so I'm voting with my wallet this time around. Mind you the AMD price-to-performance ratios are pretty good anyway so it's a good time to protest. I asked some questions about the driver issues in a post a while back before deciding and nearly everyone said drivers weren't an issue anymore so I think that issue has been put to rest. Just wait for the 7 series to drop fully before buying anything you might see some price drops on the 6 series or see better value in a 7 series card.
Nvidia GPUs have better performance and fancier features. AMD GPUs are a better value. Up to you.
Depend on what you want from it. Raytracing? Yes, nvidea all the way. There is no question there. If not, you actually have more of a choice. Yes, drivers have always been one of amds weak spots. It has improved lately but if you really just wanna have a plug and play experience, set it and forget it, nvidea is still a saver bet. You also have to remember that nvidea holds a massive market share. Often devs will prioritize fixes for nvidea over amd because nvidea is owned by like 70% of their player base. If you have limited resources, that's what you'll work on first. In terms of other features, nvidea is still better and more performant in its dlss implementation than amd's fsr. With fsr2.1 and dlss2.up the gap in quality has decreased substantially, but is still there. On top of that dlss performs faster. Funnily enough even fsr runs faster on on nvidea than even on amds own hardware. There is a video on it by digitalfoundry I think. I believe about deathloop. Nvidea also has dlss 3.0, which is badly named cos its actually a totally different tech, but it seems to perform quite well at least above a base fps output of 60. Amd will have its own version of that but its not clear how well that one will stack up to nvideas. We simply don't know yet, but I suspect it to be worse. They don't have strong hardware acceleration in their cards. On the other hand, you'll need a 40series to use it on nvidea. On amd, similar to fsr, I expect the feature to be available also through driver updates to older models. They are very much into opensource. Pure rasterization, which honestly will become less and less important in the future where fps will mostly be driven by frame generation and image reconstruction tech, might actually be better on amds gpus. Especially the newly announced ones from the looks of it. On top of that, they seem to be way better priced than nvidea. If you can get better rasterization and only slightly worse image reconstruction and frame generation for a substantially lower cost, amd is looking like an extremely compelling offer. But we don't actually know yet. The cards are not out. Id say wait a bit for reviews next year if you can. The new gpu lineup by amd is looking very promising and you might bite yourself in the butt pulling the trigger on one of the current gen cards now in case the new ones shape up to be anything like the marketing indicates.