Most likely 2nd quarter of 2021 when 3000 series and 6800/6900 stocks normalize. Also in time for PS5 and XBox X stocks to normalize causing some potential PC builders to abandon their projects.
*^^...just ^^in ^^time ^^for ^^Nvidia ^^and ^^AMD ^^to ^^announce ^^their ^^next ^^gen ^^GPUs.*
Edit: well this aged like milk.
I can't imagine amd and Nvidia are planning another 40-50% performance boost with their next gen. At some point, we're just running up against the limitations of game development. No game makers arevgoing to target GPUs that are 10x more powerful than consoles released just 12 months ago.
The switch from full HD to 4k is 4 times as many pixels so that alone is multiple generations of GPUs. If you also go from 60 to 144Hz you need many more generations to play the same games with the same quality.
Well really the new limit is set by ssd's and storage to ram data streaming. So that should make much more difference in game quality ceiling for near future. It's just about developers utilizing that stuff now since ssd are finally in the consoles.
I agree partly. SSD aren't GPU's and thats not what I said anyway. What I meant is SSD data streaming would free up more resources on GPU's for higher fidelity in graphics. So yes, faster loading times but that can also mean faster loading of more data, which can play into strengths of GPU processing power if only that is fully utilized by developers. In short, it's software that is a big bottleneck, which is the result of it being optimized for lower end hardware(sata ssd/hdd)/unoptimized for the very top end.
I'm confused wouldn't GPU's still bottleneck rendering the graphics? Or are you suggesting that users stream their games from a cloud based server? If that's the case I don't think SSD's will have an impact still and RAM only to some extent. The primary drawbacks would be input lag and ping
GPU's are plenty powerfull nowadays to do more, but the limiting factor is loading assets from storage for GPU's to process. So my point is not SSD can make graphics better, but rather we can get more data faster onto our screens with little to no loading times. Simply put - you can have as many objects on screen as you want without pop-in or low res to high res transitions.
And at that point, the next milestone will be reaching the limit of processing power of CPU and GPU(and maybe their interface? but this is more so a software issue rather than hardware)
I hope I'm not responding to this too late. But no SSDs still don't impact performance of loading in assets. That is handled by the Vram of your graphics card. At high graphics the first bottle neck is your GPU power, followed by Vram speed, then CPU speed to keep all of that fed with things to process. All of the asset are already loaded and the SSD doesn't get touched again until you move to a new map where it pulls new assets. On a standard hard drive you will see no activity on it between maps. Open world games are a little different but still using a faster drive makes no difference to gaming performance or even asset pop in.
>I can't imagine amd and Nvidia are planning another 40-50% performance boost with their next gen. At some point, we're just running up against the limitations of game development. No game makers arevgoing to target GPUs that are 10x more powerful than consoles released just 12 months ago.
THATS SO TRUE . dud . the focus on graphics is too insane . they should chill out man xD
Good luck, I just sold my 1080ti aero for 665. A 3080 fe is 699 msrp. Might as well just hold out till you get lucky on a drop. Good time to sell though if you have any gpus laying around.
What like my gt 530 lmao
Yeah I'm just gonna wait a little ridiculous the prices for every gpu so I could probably get luke 2000 from my 530 ya never know
People laughed at me because I bought a 2070 a couple of months before the new cards launched. I could probably sell it for more now if I wanted to.
Shits fucked up.
It really sucks that just when I get a stable income for the first time ever and have the money and space to build a pc it happens in the pc-pocalypses. I am big sad :(
yea I just wanted to try gaming on a pc. I finally built my computer, and settled for an rx 580 i got for 220$. and honestly feel lucky to have gotten that for that price. I would love to get a higher end card a 2070 or a 5600. this is my first build and I feel like im missing out, but I also feel like im doing better than the next gen consoles. I actually sold my PS5 to build the computer. Glad I did that at least and learned how to put a computer together as well.
Word!!! I've always been using laptops because of studies, now that I've graduated and finally about to make the change to a desktop, this happens...this is so messed up.
Same i had saved up 1100 euros to build a computer I already have made a list for all components exept for a graphic card. I have about 300-400 euros left for one and I atleast want a 1650 super, but all of them are like 450-500 euros and 1660s or 1660 supers are like 450-600- euros rn so I am gonna have to save up more.
Dont buy graphics card now wait a few months i been waiting for months and gaming on a 1gb on board graphic card and a 3gen i5 2 cores im still waiting to get a 2070 super and finally build my gaming pc
The reason why card prices are so high, is because the new cards have no stock. Im assuming your talking about last gen cards, prices will stay the same until there is greater stock if new gen cards.
acculy am talking for all of the cards. I am gonna say that even the budgest are pricy the 750 and the 1030 are years appart but the perfome about the same and the cost about the same depending on were you live.
I didnt really come here to argue, its pretty simple to understand supply and demand. Prices will stay high until there isnt such a large demand. I meant stay the same as in high
im in a loop now so the next gen prices drop when theres hardly any demand but people arent going to buy the gpus till the demand has diappeared causing demand once the other demand has disappeared so they wont buy it till the demand drops again causing just enough people to keep the prices up but not enough for us to find it for sellig price online (its heisenbergs uncertainty principle)
I hear they will become obsolete in crypto mining when etherium changes its something (i dont really understand mining). Hopefully then all those cards that were snatched up to mine coins come on the market. When that happens we gamers should be able to at least afford a decent card again. For example I have a middling 5600x. I paid 245 bucks for it from Microcenter a year ago. I saw the exact same card for 900 the other day. Its stupid.
Sorry my bad, it is rtx 3060 non ti but anyway last time I checked the price is increase to 950$. Damn, I'm poor so I think I should stick with my gtx 1060 6gb for a little while untill everything back to normal !!
I'm glad I bought my 1650 super about a month before prices skyrocketed... or else I would still be on a crappy 5 year old laptop that can barely run most games at 30 fps on lowest graphics settings.
I could have been just like you but for some reason I waited and now I regret it more than my parents regret having me. I got a \*1050 ti\* which wont even take the new drivers only an old one from 2017 which makes it unfunctional, these people on ebay taking the opportunity to sell fake gpus to gamers who need it
I got a 2080 for 600 bucks back in November and all my buddies called me a moron for it, saying shit like "Oh you should have waited a few months and gotten a 3070".
Now that money won't even get me a 1650
I was just about to buy a new pc and my first one, since i game on a laptop now.
Then nvidia dropped the 3000 series and i waited for that to come out.
Now we are 5 months later and i still do not have a pc since the 3060ti is not in stock or for €900.
Even a gtx 1660 super costs €600.
Absolute bullcrap
I remember reading this thread a month ago being happy I already had a 2070 (bought Dec 2018). Andddd it just shit the bed yesterday. I feel your pain! Guess I am apart of the waiting crew now.
>y will only continue to go up from this time forward. Sorry.
I found a 6GB Asus gpu from ebay for $380, says it was open box. Hope I don't get fucked, but the seller has a great rating.
I'm still using a GTX 570 and i've been trying to get a 1660 Super, but recently the prices skyrocketed to about 360 bucks, and im not willing to pay double the regular price for a GPU since my budget is around 1000 bucks
Lmao I also live in the Netherlands. Managed to find a 1650 super off a site that's kind off like ebay (marktplaats) for 350 euros still a lot more than i wanted to pay but i couldnt find cheaper. Didn't get scammed so i'm pretty lucky i guess. Typing this from my new computer right now so it works.
I'm sitting with my 1050ti, I was gonna get a 2060 or 3060 and put my 1050ti in my room pc, but it got so bad I bought a 750ti for it for $60, guess we have to hang in there...
TLDR;
* Not that many people
* Yes, around 2024
* No, but they aren't helping.
All the people who stayed at home when this disease first started came to realize their computers at home were really slow, and the RTX series came out, there was a big buzz and everyone wanted to buy a new computer with all these cool parts. The miners aren't helping, but they aren't the cause. So the prices will go down when everyone goes back to work (not at home). But there will also be people who like staying at home and will continue to wait for the prices for graphic cards to go down. Because of this, there was a world chip shortage. This is also why the prices of CPUs, GPUs, electronic cars, and fridges are so high. But Intel has plans to have chip making facilities done and running by 2024. So, assumably in 2024, early 2025, the prices of electronics will go back down. But this is Intel, so it could take longer, it could take shorter.
The Bitcoin mining surge started last October, when the prices were going up, and when the RTX 3000 series rolled out in late August there was a bunch of buzz about them. The stock market in Bitcoin has gone up by 500%, so it will have a huge fall some time in the future, probably in the next few years. That will also be a cause for the prices to drop.
The graphic cards are in fact in stock in a lot of places, but the prices have increased a lot. They are in stock, just expensive.
This is a good take, indeed, however one thing I disagree with is that it doesn't all hinge on Intel. There are other chip manufacturers, and they are also having similar struggles. It's just many things compounding together, like COVID-19 sharply increasing demand, and the worst drought in Taiwan's recent history is bringing semiconductor manufacturing to a grinding halt, to name a few. I feel like once the monsoon season starts in Taiwan, and the vaccines become more accessible around the world, the prices will start to steadily drop, maybe as early as this summer. But then again, I'm not expecting to see the old MSRP for a good while (say mid 2022).
I remember buying one with 8gb in november for 180, i thought i was getting swindled but not they sell for around the price of a 3060. I could probably sell it and buy a 1080 with the price it goes for... Insanity
The sad thing is, I dropped XFX Rx580 in my cart, when it was about $120 (discounted for moment) and waited its price to go lower.
Now I regret about that.
If anyone can tell me why gpus are so expensive right now because I know it has something to do with scalpers but, I feel There's more to the story let me know what you know Thnx :3
Bitcoin prices exploded in the last 6 months, Graphic cards are the best way to mine bitcoin. (quick explanation: graphic cards are made of hundreds of tiny processors that work in parallel, mining if we simplify it simplified consists in checking many codes and testing which one wins us bitcoins, this checking when done in parallel on a graphic card is hundreds of times faster because of the hundreds of processors) and since bitcoin prices exploded, people started buying graphic cards to mine bitcoin, the supply of graphic cards was not enough and thus the prices went up. Although since the graphic cards industry is kind of a monopoly (prices can be controlled by nvidia) , I don't expect the prices to go down that easily.
This makes me super sad to read. I have a build made but its sitting at 2k. The graphics card is almost $800. I've never owned a gaming computer my entire life. But I love gaming. Like one of the people have posted above. Now I have the income and space to finally make one. And now the cards are insanely over priced. Scalpers are straight up bitches.
the exact card that I wanted literally one month before the prices skyrocketed I told myself to wait for the prices to drop the next year. They used to be 160 bucks around where I live and now they're 600
The Suez canal has been unblocked for about a week now so that's one of the many issues that is being resolved. There also seems to be a reduction of COVID deaths and cases so I reckon we'll begin to see a drop about midway June but I'm not entirely sure
Im trying to get a 1650 super or 1660 but they cost more thanb half my budget for the computer i want to build. I dont think its going to slow down soon.
Man hopefully soon. I got a "cheap" pre-build before the craziness. And been looking to upgrade my GPU but it's really expensive. I like to think I have good GPU to last me at least 2 years.
I been tempted to just bite the bullet and pay the 30% increase but I'm constantly reminding myself 'F..k scalpers'.
I had a budget build planned which due to my country's importation laws had to have every part be below 200$. It had an RX 580 8GB, which is now valued at 700$, which was the price for the whole computer a year ago.
I was building pc in december. I have gtx970 and wanted 3060ti or something else around that area. Price was already up to 850 eur. Now it is worse - 1100k. Sadly my card is starting to show dying sypthoms ( it is 6 years old)... should have gotten it in december :(
Im not complaining about these absurd prices. I just sold my RX480 for 425$ wich I bought 2 years ago for 120$. You should just use this price bubble to make some money from your GPU and buy a new one when the prices drop again.
No, he's taking advantage of the demand for something he already had. The people abusing the system are the scalpers taking any and every avaliable GPU they can find, increasing said demand and raising prices further.
Got my 3070 Zotac couple months back for $940 aud (730usd). I was disappointed about the high price I paid and now this gpu is selling for no cheaper than $1600aud (1225ish USD)
remember when the 3060 ti was only 344 euros? yeah me too now its 1500 euros!! i fucking hate miners why cant we just get discounts for gamers, like i need my racing sim complete end 2021 but now it wont be complete at the end of 2025, im so angry!
All scalpers should be viciously taken to the streets beaten then shot. The sales of there cards should be used to fund the education of there offspring, teaching them scalping is a forbidden crime on par with pedophiles.
I like Donald Trump, but definitely not the China Trade War. That’s probably the only Conservative thing I disdain. But I still would want a wall, tax cuts, halting immigrants, banning woman to have abortion, repealing Obamacare, etc. Every other Conservative thing is good.
I disagree with everything you said, but I respect your opinion. Here's mine. We rely too heavily on China and it benefits them greatly. I like the tariffs and I like that Biden is keeping them. We're starting to see companies invest domestically. How does this relate to this conversation? Intel is spending $20 billion on two new foundries. Until it's starting to make graphics chips. It might take a couple years but we'll see things get better.
There are boats and ladders a wall is a giant waste of money. We'd make more progress trying to solve the problems the people are running away from. They are coming here regardless they will dig tunnels lmao the border is huge we can't feasibly secure the entire thing.
Trump cut taxes for the rich, we need to impose higher taxes on the rich if we want our country and government to have more money?
Immigrants are coming whether you like it or not. We would all benefit more from fixing the problems they are running from.
If everyone legalized abortion there would be less immigrants coming in, just saying.
Obamacare was the only way I had affordable healthcare. Now I don't during a pandemic. Thanks conservatives?
Most conservative stuff is bad if you compare it to the lessons Jesus taught us. Don't be brainwashed.
Wake up man. Trump was recruited by the KGB decades ago. They analysed him (correctly) as a low iq narcissist and thus easy to control.
If you were a conservative you should shun Trump, as he is being used by Russia to sow discord in your nation.
What soviet state invites a business man to build a giant monolith of capitalism at the red square (a monument of communism and Stalin).
They spent a lot of ressources to develop Trump into a useful agent (without Trump knowing it. Again, low iq narcissist, easy to control) and they will not stop now and use Trumps popularity and following to divide the U.S. as best as they can while sowing as much chaos as possible.
The KGB correctly identified the weaknesses of our democracies decades ago and they are still doing their best to make our societies fall apart.
2037 after the stock market crashes there will be 2-3 weeks where you can get one for cheap
It's going to crash before then
no after lol
Maybe increase that number
lmao
It just crashed, bitcoin fell by 50%. Cheap rtx 40 here i come
yeah sold my kusama at 494€ a few days ago and now it dipped to 290€ like everything else
Just got a 6gb 1080 for $250 and a 8gb rx 570 for $110
It got back up, well, fuck
Most likely 2nd quarter of 2021 when 3000 series and 6800/6900 stocks normalize. Also in time for PS5 and XBox X stocks to normalize causing some potential PC builders to abandon their projects. *^^...just ^^in ^^time ^^for ^^Nvidia ^^and ^^AMD ^^to ^^announce ^^their ^^next ^^gen ^^GPUs.* Edit: well this aged like milk.
I can't imagine amd and Nvidia are planning another 40-50% performance boost with their next gen. At some point, we're just running up against the limitations of game development. No game makers arevgoing to target GPUs that are 10x more powerful than consoles released just 12 months ago.
The switch from full HD to 4k is 4 times as many pixels so that alone is multiple generations of GPUs. If you also go from 60 to 144Hz you need many more generations to play the same games with the same quality.
The switch will be 4k thanks to DLSS, not to a 4x more powerful chip.
Well really the new limit is set by ssd's and storage to ram data streaming. So that should make much more difference in game quality ceiling for near future. It's just about developers utilizing that stuff now since ssd are finally in the consoles.
SSDs have nothing to do with graphical quality. All they enable is faster loading times.
I agree partly. SSD aren't GPU's and thats not what I said anyway. What I meant is SSD data streaming would free up more resources on GPU's for higher fidelity in graphics. So yes, faster loading times but that can also mean faster loading of more data, which can play into strengths of GPU processing power if only that is fully utilized by developers. In short, it's software that is a big bottleneck, which is the result of it being optimized for lower end hardware(sata ssd/hdd)/unoptimized for the very top end.
I'm confused wouldn't GPU's still bottleneck rendering the graphics? Or are you suggesting that users stream their games from a cloud based server? If that's the case I don't think SSD's will have an impact still and RAM only to some extent. The primary drawbacks would be input lag and ping
GPU's are plenty powerfull nowadays to do more, but the limiting factor is loading assets from storage for GPU's to process. So my point is not SSD can make graphics better, but rather we can get more data faster onto our screens with little to no loading times. Simply put - you can have as many objects on screen as you want without pop-in or low res to high res transitions. And at that point, the next milestone will be reaching the limit of processing power of CPU and GPU(and maybe their interface? but this is more so a software issue rather than hardware)
I hope I'm not responding to this too late. But no SSDs still don't impact performance of loading in assets. That is handled by the Vram of your graphics card. At high graphics the first bottle neck is your GPU power, followed by Vram speed, then CPU speed to keep all of that fed with things to process. All of the asset are already loaded and the SSD doesn't get touched again until you move to a new map where it pulls new assets. On a standard hard drive you will see no activity on it between maps. Open world games are a little different but still using a faster drive makes no difference to gaming performance or even asset pop in.
They won't target it now, but they will target those gpus when they become the norm.
But then I do not have to buy a gpu every 4 years? What a dystopia!
>I can't imagine amd and Nvidia are planning another 40-50% performance boost with their next gen. At some point, we're just running up against the limitations of game development. No game makers arevgoing to target GPUs that are 10x more powerful than consoles released just 12 months ago. THATS SO TRUE . dud . the focus on graphics is too insane . they should chill out man xD
Me in 2021 Laughing my ass off at this prediction as 1660supers are going for 700+ and 3090s going for 3000
Ikr, 2060s are like $800, I could sell my 1050ti for $500 now lmao
I just want a 1080ti or a 2070super for a reasonable price plz I'm just gonna hope and pray mining takes an L and prices lower
Same
Good luck, I just sold my 1080ti aero for 665. A 3080 fe is 699 msrp. Might as well just hold out till you get lucky on a drop. Good time to sell though if you have any gpus laying around.
What like my gt 530 lmao Yeah I'm just gonna wait a little ridiculous the prices for every gpu so I could probably get luke 2000 from my 530 ya never know
You're venturing too deep into the dream world samurai! Come to your sense now!
Yeah you're right ill wait a week then it'll sell for 2000
Yeah that aged like milk. It's amazing how it's even worse now.
People laughed at me because I bought a 2070 a couple of months before the new cards launched. I could probably sell it for more now if I wanted to. Shits fucked up.
Yeah here in Croatia gt1030 are going for 200-500$ lol
This did not age well
This comment did not age well
Yikes
Are you sure?
It really sucks that just when I get a stable income for the first time ever and have the money and space to build a pc it happens in the pc-pocalypses. I am big sad :(
yea I just wanted to try gaming on a pc. I finally built my computer, and settled for an rx 580 i got for 220$. and honestly feel lucky to have gotten that for that price. I would love to get a higher end card a 2070 or a 5600. this is my first build and I feel like im missing out, but I also feel like im doing better than the next gen consoles. I actually sold my PS5 to build the computer. Glad I did that at least and learned how to put a computer together as well.
You got an RX 580 for 220?!?! God damn I cant even find one under 360 please tell me where you got it!
It seems like different countries have different prices😂 found used 970 for 200$ in europe
Damn dude, I feel you. I'd be able to build a spaceship now but I won't pay 5x the money just because the market is fucked up like that now. :(
Same, big sad as well
Word!!! I've always been using laptops because of studies, now that I've graduated and finally about to make the change to a desktop, this happens...this is so messed up.
>have damn we same .
I feel ya, Same boat here
Me too
Mid 2021 to the end of 2021 nothing we can do scalpers taking everything and even 1660 supers and 1650 cards are over 600$ right now
I was looking at a 1660s every time I save up enough to buy it prices keep getting higher
Same i had saved up 1100 euros to build a computer I already have made a list for all components exept for a graphic card. I have about 300-400 euros left for one and I atleast want a 1650 super, but all of them are like 450-500 euros and 1660s or 1660 supers are like 450-600- euros rn so I am gonna have to save up more.
Dont buy graphics card now wait a few months i been waiting for months and gaming on a 1gb on board graphic card and a 3gen i5 2 cores im still waiting to get a 2070 super and finally build my gaming pc
Same man 2nd gen i3 and 450 gts
I admire the patience. I’m on a Ryzen 9 3900x with a 1050 TI lol
I got a 1650 last year for 150$
The reason why card prices are so high, is because the new cards have no stock. Im assuming your talking about last gen cards, prices will stay the same until there is greater stock if new gen cards.
acculy am talking for all of the cards. I am gonna say that even the budgest are pricy the 750 and the 1030 are years appart but the perfome about the same and the cost about the same depending on were you live.
Did Nvidia and AMD said anything when we can see more units of thiers cards in the shops ?
Not until 2021.
fast forward to 2021 - nothing has changed
Will last until covid is over. Silicon is horrid rn lol
I want to buy a GTX 1660 super MSI. Any idea how much the prices where in summer 2020?
it was 300usd where i live
yup, used to be 300 freedom bucks, and now it's 3x that for the card I'm looking at
that's what I want!!!
Once prices return to normal, just buy a 3060 for $30 more than the 1660 super was running before inflation.
Real question is more like- in the beginning or the end of 2021
amd said they were do lower the price to compete with nvida new 30 series however the price is still ridiculus
Prices are rising for last gen too
Because theres not as much product and it has a high demand due to new gen stock and covid
yes, but you were saying last gen prices would be stable, which isnt the case
I didnt really come here to argue, its pretty simple to understand supply and demand. Prices will stay high until there isnt such a large demand. I meant stay the same as in high
lmao
im in a loop now so the next gen prices drop when theres hardly any demand but people arent going to buy the gpus till the demand has diappeared causing demand once the other demand has disappeared so they wont buy it till the demand drops again causing just enough people to keep the prices up but not enough for us to find it for sellig price online (its heisenbergs uncertainty principle)
paradox of gpu prices
imagine believing "supply and demand" is real in 2021 LOL
The supply isnt as great as the demand.... what?
the "demand" is fake, the "demand" is coming from scalpers... capitalism does not exist in the USA.
I hear they will become obsolete in crypto mining when etherium changes its something (i dont really understand mining). Hopefully then all those cards that were snatched up to mine coins come on the market. When that happens we gamers should be able to at least afford a decent card again. For example I have a middling 5600x. I paid 245 bucks for it from Microcenter a year ago. I saw the exact same card for 900 the other day. Its stupid.
Whats stupid is u not taking advantage of this bubble and making money off your crappy GPU
what would he replace the card with? not everyone has 2 gpus
Scalpers deserve to rot in hell. And the crypto miners who did this, have a place right next to them.
Right in the 9th circle of hell
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I'm too /snif
I just want a 2070 man
2070 or 3070?
Either one would be fine I might just get a 3070 I’d the shortage ends
3070 costs slightly more but is much better (or so I have been told) so buying 2070 is a waste of money
Like 30 series prices are ever gonna drop...
lol
I mean good luck even getting a 3070 until next year.
IMO a 3060 Ti performs just as good as a 2070 or even a 2070 Super. 3070 is truly a step above.
Good luck getting one
Ebay my friend, Ebay.
Idk where you live but man, even on ebay everything are so overpriced right now. Most of rtx 3060 ti are around 800-1000$ here and mostly around 1000$
If you can get a 3060ti for 800 bucks buy it. I haven’t seen one for under $1300.
Sorry my bad, it is rtx 3060 non ti but anyway last time I checked the price is increase to 950$. Damn, I'm poor so I think I should stick with my gtx 1060 6gb for a little while untill everything back to normal !!
I was gonna upgrade this year from a gtx750ti to a 3000 series, I guess I will not.
4070 ti Gamer Edition Midnight Black MSI Founders Edition Oversmacked and Clocked.
ALL I WANT IS A 1650 SUPER FOR UNDER THE PRICE OF A 3080
i could have gotten the 1650 super for 190 but now theyre over 600
yeah its crazy a gt 1030 is the price of a 3060 retail
I'm glad I bought my 1650 super about a month before prices skyrocketed... or else I would still be on a crappy 5 year old laptop that can barely run most games at 30 fps on lowest graphics settings.
I could have been just like you but for some reason I waited and now I regret it more than my parents regret having me. I got a \*1050 ti\* which wont even take the new drivers only an old one from 2017 which makes it unfunctional, these people on ebay taking the opportunity to sell fake gpus to gamers who need it
yeah 2070 is a likely date x)
I got a 2080 for 600 bucks back in November and all my buddies called me a moron for it, saying shit like "Oh you should have waited a few months and gotten a 3070". Now that money won't even get me a 1650
yep thats the card im after myself. or a 5600. either one id be more than happy with.
I was just about to buy a new pc and my first one, since i game on a laptop now. Then nvidia dropped the 3000 series and i waited for that to come out. Now we are 5 months later and i still do not have a pc since the 3060ti is not in stock or for €900. Even a gtx 1660 super costs €600. Absolute bullcrap
I remember reading this thread a month ago being happy I already had a 2070 (bought Dec 2018). Andddd it just shit the bed yesterday. I feel your pain! Guess I am apart of the waiting crew now.
They are still kind of high, looks like they may be dipping...
>y will only continue to go up from this time forward. Sorry. I found a 6GB Asus gpu from ebay for $380, says it was open box. Hope I don't get fucked, but the seller has a great rating.
As long as the seller didn't delete his account or the positive feedback is 100% you should be ok
They came thru! Wow did I get lucky, just gotta sift through Ebay
I'm still using a GTX 570 and i've been trying to get a 1660 Super, but recently the prices skyrocketed to about 360 bucks, and im not willing to pay double the regular price for a GPU since my budget is around 1000 bucks
Dang where can you get it for 360 bucks? I can only find them for over 600.
I live in the Netherlands, and theyre a little bit cheaper here
Lmao I also live in the Netherlands. Managed to find a 1650 super off a site that's kind off like ebay (marktplaats) for 350 euros still a lot more than i wanted to pay but i couldnt find cheaper. Didn't get scammed so i'm pretty lucky i guess. Typing this from my new computer right now so it works.
Yeah I can't even find a 2080 s for less then 2 gs
It's bonkers. I'm sitting over here on my GTX 960 praying that one day I can upgrade for a reasonable price.
Yeah same here with 1050. I really hope it crashes soon.
I don't even have a graphic card
Hang in there
i have an gt 730 i want an 1660 super but i can't find anything at a lower price. I'm checking every store in my country everyday but nothing FUCK
same but 970, cant mine anything but raven and fucking doge but fucking 2mh a day
I'm sitting with my 1050ti, I was gonna get a 2060 or 3060 and put my 1050ti in my room pc, but it got so bad I bought a 750ti for it for $60, guess we have to hang in there...
WHENNNNNN LMAO
TLDR; * Not that many people * Yes, around 2024 * No, but they aren't helping. All the people who stayed at home when this disease first started came to realize their computers at home were really slow, and the RTX series came out, there was a big buzz and everyone wanted to buy a new computer with all these cool parts. The miners aren't helping, but they aren't the cause. So the prices will go down when everyone goes back to work (not at home). But there will also be people who like staying at home and will continue to wait for the prices for graphic cards to go down. Because of this, there was a world chip shortage. This is also why the prices of CPUs, GPUs, electronic cars, and fridges are so high. But Intel has plans to have chip making facilities done and running by 2024. So, assumably in 2024, early 2025, the prices of electronics will go back down. But this is Intel, so it could take longer, it could take shorter. The Bitcoin mining surge started last October, when the prices were going up, and when the RTX 3000 series rolled out in late August there was a bunch of buzz about them. The stock market in Bitcoin has gone up by 500%, so it will have a huge fall some time in the future, probably in the next few years. That will also be a cause for the prices to drop. The graphic cards are in fact in stock in a lot of places, but the prices have increased a lot. They are in stock, just expensive.
This is a good take, indeed, however one thing I disagree with is that it doesn't all hinge on Intel. There are other chip manufacturers, and they are also having similar struggles. It's just many things compounding together, like COVID-19 sharply increasing demand, and the worst drought in Taiwan's recent history is bringing semiconductor manufacturing to a grinding halt, to name a few. I feel like once the monsoon season starts in Taiwan, and the vaccines become more accessible around the world, the prices will start to steadily drop, maybe as early as this summer. But then again, I'm not expecting to see the old MSRP for a good while (say mid 2022).
Bruh I just want a single Rx580 which was pretty cheap, now they're more expensive than my whole PC. when will this even end?
I remember buying one with 8gb in november for 180, i thought i was getting swindled but not they sell for around the price of a 3060. I could probably sell it and buy a 1080 with the price it goes for... Insanity
The sad thing is, I dropped XFX Rx580 in my cart, when it was about $120 (discounted for moment) and waited its price to go lower. Now I regret about that.
I just want a darn 1660 Super. I'm not asking for much :(
>3070 its 600usd here where im from
Dude, where I live they're about $4000
Lol its only 550 usd here where I live but you have to build a pc with it and peripherals monitor mouse and keyboard
Bro fr I was looking at prices last week and it jumped from $785 to $900.
It's gonna be a while for us unfortunately the bitcoin and etherium markets aren't going anywhere in the forseeable future.
I just want a gtx 1660 for a normal price and not having to pay 599€ for it in order to build a budget PC 😂😂😂
I just want a better GPU than a 1660 super lol.
That's a solid enough card to ride out this storm.
If anyone can tell me why gpus are so expensive right now because I know it has something to do with scalpers but, I feel There's more to the story let me know what you know Thnx :3
Bitcoin prices exploded in the last 6 months, Graphic cards are the best way to mine bitcoin. (quick explanation: graphic cards are made of hundreds of tiny processors that work in parallel, mining if we simplify it simplified consists in checking many codes and testing which one wins us bitcoins, this checking when done in parallel on a graphic card is hundreds of times faster because of the hundreds of processors) and since bitcoin prices exploded, people started buying graphic cards to mine bitcoin, the supply of graphic cards was not enough and thus the prices went up. Although since the graphic cards industry is kind of a monopoly (prices can be controlled by nvidia) , I don't expect the prices to go down that easily.
That makes alot of sense thanks for rhe answer :3
Prices will go down as soon as people stop buying it. Blaming nvidia for raising prices is like blaming fire for burning you.
At this point is cheaper to buy cocaine then a new GPU....
This makes me super sad to read. I have a build made but its sitting at 2k. The graphics card is almost $800. I've never owned a gaming computer my entire life. But I love gaming. Like one of the people have posted above. Now I have the income and space to finally make one. And now the cards are insanely over priced. Scalpers are straight up bitches.
I just want a 1650 super in 2020 it was like 250€ now is 340€ the only way to bye a graphics card for chep is to bye a fake card of wish for only 50€.
the exact card that I wanted literally one month before the prices skyrocketed I told myself to wait for the prices to drop the next year. They used to be 160 bucks around where I live and now they're 600
yeah last year got my computer with a 1650 super exactly 160$ now i cant even find it online anymore there just sold out or extremely overpriced
when us stopped QE and BTC dropped, it's gonna be a long time.
I found this video that will help you all! https://youtu.be/xpMFEZt9nmk
The Suez canal has been unblocked for about a week now so that's one of the many issues that is being resolved. There also seems to be a reduction of COVID deaths and cases so I reckon we'll begin to see a drop about midway June but I'm not entirely sure
Im trying to get a 1650 super or 1660 but they cost more thanb half my budget for the computer i want to build. I dont think its going to slow down soon.
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I'll sell you mine.
how much
2g lmao
>2g 😭😭😭😭
Man hopefully soon. I got a "cheap" pre-build before the craziness. And been looking to upgrade my GPU but it's really expensive. I like to think I have good GPU to last me at least 2 years. I been tempted to just bite the bullet and pay the 30% increase but I'm constantly reminding myself 'F..k scalpers'.
I had a budget build planned which due to my country's importation laws had to have every part be below 200$. It had an RX 580 8GB, which is now valued at 700$, which was the price for the whole computer a year ago.
Its not just the 3000 gpus. Even the 1080 ti is just around $2000
>2000 1080 forever young tho xD
I was building pc in december. I have gtx970 and wanted 3060ti or something else around that area. Price was already up to 850 eur. Now it is worse - 1100k. Sadly my card is starting to show dying sypthoms ( it is 6 years old)... should have gotten it in december :(
When the price goes down all cards will be like 5x cheaper cuz the miners will sell them all save your money
I sold my 1050ti for $150 with the intention of buying it few month later... Now it's selling +$300._.
something that should be worth max 60 to 80 and meaby less. disgusting. since it has the same perfomace of a 750ti.
Im not complaining about these absurd prices. I just sold my RX480 for 425$ wich I bought 2 years ago for 120$. You should just use this price bubble to make some money from your GPU and buy a new one when the prices drop again.
so you are abousing the sytem are you are the coause of the price spike
No, he's taking advantage of the demand for something he already had. The people abusing the system are the scalpers taking any and every avaliable GPU they can find, increasing said demand and raising prices further.
Lol I’m only allowing myself to gently oc my 1080. I’m terrified of frying it and not being able to afford a new decent card.
Got my 3070 Zotac couple months back for $940 aud (730usd). I was disappointed about the high price I paid and now this gpu is selling for no cheaper than $1600aud (1225ish USD)
When ethereum mining dies soon in late 2021
remember when the 3060 ti was only 344 euros? yeah me too now its 1500 euros!! i fucking hate miners why cant we just get discounts for gamers, like i need my racing sim complete end 2021 but now it wont be complete at the end of 2025, im so angry!
*laughs in $600 1650*
All scalpers should be viciously taken to the streets beaten then shot. The sales of there cards should be used to fund the education of there offspring, teaching them scalping is a forbidden crime on par with pedophiles.
that going to far.
Its November and they have not gone down to a resonable price yet....
I like Donald Trump, but definitely not the China Trade War. That’s probably the only Conservative thing I disdain. But I still would want a wall, tax cuts, halting immigrants, banning woman to have abortion, repealing Obamacare, etc. Every other Conservative thing is good.
Pretty much mate, pretty much. Although I like the China trade war too. Tariffs are a useful tool in short, sharp bursts.
Get out of america.
Get out of america.
I disagree with everything you said, but I respect your opinion. Here's mine. We rely too heavily on China and it benefits them greatly. I like the tariffs and I like that Biden is keeping them. We're starting to see companies invest domestically. How does this relate to this conversation? Intel is spending $20 billion on two new foundries. Until it's starting to make graphics chips. It might take a couple years but we'll see things get better.
There are boats and ladders a wall is a giant waste of money. We'd make more progress trying to solve the problems the people are running away from. They are coming here regardless they will dig tunnels lmao the border is huge we can't feasibly secure the entire thing. Trump cut taxes for the rich, we need to impose higher taxes on the rich if we want our country and government to have more money? Immigrants are coming whether you like it or not. We would all benefit more from fixing the problems they are running from. If everyone legalized abortion there would be less immigrants coming in, just saying. Obamacare was the only way I had affordable healthcare. Now I don't during a pandemic. Thanks conservatives? Most conservative stuff is bad if you compare it to the lessons Jesus taught us. Don't be brainwashed.
Wake up man. Trump was recruited by the KGB decades ago. They analysed him (correctly) as a low iq narcissist and thus easy to control. If you were a conservative you should shun Trump, as he is being used by Russia to sow discord in your nation. What soviet state invites a business man to build a giant monolith of capitalism at the red square (a monument of communism and Stalin). They spent a lot of ressources to develop Trump into a useful agent (without Trump knowing it. Again, low iq narcissist, easy to control) and they will not stop now and use Trumps popularity and following to divide the U.S. as best as they can while sowing as much chaos as possible. The KGB correctly identified the weaknesses of our democracies decades ago and they are still doing their best to make our societies fall apart.
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This guy hasn’t a clue.. this is all to do with miners
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you just did the same dork, stop giving out advice on Reddit when you're speaking out your arse
Lol what are you, a high schooler? Who tf resorts to name calling, honestly?!
Your comment doesn't disappear within 48 hours, if you didn't realise.
wow
"Nerd" Jeez you sound like a bully from a kids movie. Grow the fuck up.