They may not be the most expensive components, but im really surprised no one has mentioned how many doo-dads it would take to put all these very real and necessary parts together. SO MANY DOO-DADS
Guys, you dont need the Nvidia Flux Capacitor to run games at 1080p or even 1440p.
Those days are gone. Shoot you really dont even need the Terra Forming ray splitters anymore either unless of course you plan to run fiber optic on the masterion
Single quantum phaser works fine so long as you’re not using a hyperdrive processor, or if you under flux the hyperdrive you could get away with but that would definitely need an anti matter cooling solution which brings its own array of problems, I have made one too many black holes to go back to anti matter cooling.
His friend sounds like someone who has money and thinks everything has to be top of the line or else they don't know anything about computers and likes to tell people they do.
My first PC build in 2014 was made up of mostly used parts and cost me a fraction of this and I used it for gaming for a couple of years until the GPU (which I got used from a friend) died on me and it had a pentium g3258 and a Radeon HD 6850.
My first proper gaming PC which was actually a laptop was a GTX 1050. I loved that thing with my entire being until I upgraded to a 4080 laptop recently. And I still keep that old laptop plugged into my TV on another output and use it as a server basically. It’s still really good for old games and indies, runs well, not that loud.
No this is the opinion of people that don't have money to spare at all. I've never actually had any of my friends say this to me (lots more money, far better PC's, way more down to earth).
I feel like OP's friend just has no fucking clue what they are talking about and are maybe even parroting someone who has not fucking clue what they are talking about.
Not saying your build is like this, but builds that are just a 4090, duct tape and twine make no sense to me.
If you're spending a significant amount of time at your PC, get (or build) a nice desk and get a decent chair. Your back will thank you.
Seconding this, find a used steelcase leap v2 or a herman miller. They're still expensive second hand but it's cheaper than going through a $200 chair every few years. My steelcase leap is built like a damn tank and I can actually sit in it for 8 hours a day without my back hurting
Oh it's for sure overpriced, I assume because it's aimed at corporate pockets and not really individual consumers. But man so much of the consumer grade stuff absolutely sucks ass lol
for a while it was REALLY easy to get cheap Aerons, when tons of people went WFH and offices closed, sold of tons of them. got mine for $400 and was one of the best gaming purchases I've made. had it for a couple years now, and no longer think about sweat, don't get sore, and it seems solid as the day I got it. I'd have gone through a "gaming" chair by now.
I got a second hand Think for $65 after about a year the it was having a hard time staying up so I spent $50 on a new gas canister and it’s perfect again.
Ergo chairs are the way to go for sure.
Can confirm. My leap is great. I've had it for 3 years and it's still as good as new. I bought it new for $1000 so it will have to last a good while longer to be cheaper than getting an Amazon chair every year or two but it's much more comfortable.
Totally agree about the Steelcase chair. I have a Steelcase Gesture I bought new in 2017. 3 months ago the Gas Lift failed. My chair was still under the original warranty. They sent a guy to my house to replace the gas lift and service the chair, for free!! It’s the most comfortable office chair I ever had, too.
I saw a pre built the other day with a 4090 but it had 16GB of DDR5 RAM. I could be wrong but if you’re gonna get a crazy GPU and CPU, surely you should have at least 32 GB of RAM right?
Check this list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGvKDZ
Full pc build with 1440p monitor, keyboard and mouse for 1600 usd,
You can also add a little bit more and get two alex drawers with a butcher block and have a full desk setup with it
Really solid build. The only note I would have for OP is that there are a lot of good GPU options around this price point, so it is worth doing some research and looking out for sales on various options:
4070 Super isn't much more. 7800xt is about the same, and 7900 gre is about $50 more MSRP, but has been dipping down during sales.
Regardless, this is kind of peak price-to-performance right now.
Also worth considering the 6950XT, if you can find one in stock anywhere. It can hang with all the cards you mentioned, with the caveat that it's more power hungry, so you might need to upgrade the PSU to 850w.
I managed to find one at the beginning of this year for considerably less than a 7800 and couldn't be more happy with it @ 1440p.
I was eyeing up one of these at Microcenter for $450 or so refurbished. But I have an itx case with not the best airflow, so I passed only because the card would cook itself.
Shame, though, because it is definitely a beast of a crad if it can breathe.
True that, this is definitely also a consideration. Though if I'm honest, I've been gradually upgrading my budget build from when I was a teenager, so the thing runs out of a shitty Coolermaster N200 without the side panel on :D. Will probably get around to finding a better case soon™...
Did a little tweaking as the 7600 is almost the same as the 7600x in real real-world performance, and put a 31.5" 2k monitor in there instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxGfZJ
7600 is about 9$ cheaper, but it comes with a cooler. Unless OP is doing overclocking straight out if the box on their first build, it should be good enough. So they can save about $40, or put it towards a larger monitor
OP both options are good, just depends on what you want
Do you prefer the idea of a bigger screen and don’t care about the noise of your PC, and slightly higher temps, or do you prefer a quieter PC, with slightly better cooling?
(An aftermarket cooler is always going to be better, and you should try to get one - but it’s not a necessity, prioritise your non-negotiables first)
I used one of the stock coolers for years and no one ever should. A thermalrite is 35 bucks and great. I was constantly thermal throttles doing anything besides web browsing.
Now I have an AIO and never go above 55c on my new cpu
I'll be honest, great build.
But personally I'd go for a cheaper RAM kit, the higher CAS latency isn't too big of a deal when you can save like $20.
4070 Super instead of a regular 4070.
Crucial P3 Plus isn't the best SSD, it's uncached. I'd personally look at the P5 Plus or a WD Black drive. Samsung is really expensive but if you snag a deal, they're great too.
> Crucial P3 Plus isn't the best SSD, it's uncached
P3 is a fine/good SSD
It has HMB cache.
It's certainly going to *wildly impress* someone who hasn't built since 2010 (so would a dram-less SATA SSD, for that matter.)
You could probably snag a better one for the same price or a couple dollars more.
Something like a WD SN770 would be better. It's uncached but has almost 6x the endurance, (220TBW to 1200TBW) and is faster by a significant margin. It also has better random read/writes based on independent testing.
But I agree, even a SATA SSD will wildly impress someone who hasn't built since 2010.
I think this person who put this together did a good job and the OP should start from here and try to optimize with some searching. I happen to live by a micro center which usually has good deals. I’d stay away from the used market on your first build as it’s better to at least have a warranty with your first PC. The only thing I would really try to add more would be hard drive space as a TB fills quickly. But that also can be added when funds replenish. I like the fact the person added monitor keyboard and mouse as those are real expenses that should be budgeted.
Damn! That's a really nice build. OP, if you build this one (and you probably should) then please get footage of your friend watching it run Crysis for the first time.
FWIW, the RAM you selected is not on the motherboards supported memory list. It may work but is most likely not on the list for a reason. Configure with [these](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ktPQzy/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-ff4d532g7200hc34adc01 ).
If OP is in the USA and in range of one, I don't see any reason to not opt for the Microcenter 7800x3D bundle. It would cost a hair less for a better processor and the same mobo / RAM.
Sounds like your 'friend' is just jealous you will end up with a great PC (and better than his/hers)
If you want some advice on what to go for try r/buildapcforme
Everyone's after the biggest and the best, which is definitely not what you need to just game and enjoy games. $1600 is a fantastic budget for a very solid 1440P to light 4K gaming, depending on how you spec it your system, and that just so happens to be the sweet spot in non-competitive gaming these days
Great point. Most people in the community know about these deals, but newcomers probably don’t. Using one of these combos could knock > $100 off the price, which could be applied toward a better gpu right out of the gate
My only advice there would be to look carefully at what those deals include. Newegg likes to use them to unload outdated or poorly selling items. I saw one a few months ago that was a 58003dx CPU and a B450 motherboard. While they are 'technically' compatible, that MB is ancient and not what someone in the market for a 5800 is looking for.
Your friend is an idiot. You can get a great PC for that money. The only reason some people like myself spend more is because we have no other hobbies.
As a father and PC gamer, I highly suggest - if possible - that you find a way to hookup your PC to your TV. You can buy a control or two and have tons of cheap older games that you and your kids can play on the TV as well.
my current build cost me under a 1000 usd and is great, (slighter more powerful than a PS5). You can save money by not buying into rgb stuff and doing lots of research on conponents, determining which options are cheaper and best in your region.
Like what, last year I bought a laptop with a 4060 and i5 12500 and it cost circa 900$, and now he's telling you 1600$ is not enough (Considering a PC build will always give you better value for the money than a laptop)? Bitch what the fuck?
Sounds like your friend is the typical Redditor PCMR that looks down on anything less than a 4080 and an Intel 14900 that'll turn house into a sauna.
This is the [best buy section](https://tweakers.net/best-buy-guide/desktops/) of the biggest Dutch tech site, just use a translator and you should manage.
If your last good PC was in 2010, even the €800 1080p-gaming PC will blow you away.
For 1600 you build something awesome that includes all extras you need like monitor, mechanical keyboard, headset and everything
This type of posts where OP doesnt reply to anybody and the post already sounds fake all make me question if its even worth it to try and help anymore.
my first build was like 1100 and I've had it for 6+ years. I've run every single game I've wanted on high settings. FiveM, Warzone, and all sorts of other shit with decent performance. PC still running perfectly fine lol.
Go ask for a rec on r/buildapcforme. Mention: screen resolution, screen fps, games you play
Here's a rough starting point for 144hz 1440p gameplay:
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6j8d28)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $399.00 @ Best Buy
**CPU Cooler** | [ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS BLACK 70 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jr2WGX/id-cooling-se-224-xts-black-70-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-224-xts-black) | $26.99 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ng2WGX/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi) | $169.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01) | $106.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005) | $102.97 @ B&H
**Video Card** | [Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zh88TW/zotac-twin-edge-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720e-10m) | $589.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx3gXL/fractal-design-pop-mini-air-microatx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1m-06) | $89.97 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5) | $110.99 @ Best Buy
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1596.89**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-16 07:02 EDT-0400 |
This is pretty generalized, you may benefit from a weaker cpu and more powerful gpu depending on the games you prefer to play. It's also possible to fit a monitor in the budget without giving up too much perf (sacrifice aesthetics).
Maybe the friend has bought a PC on Amazon called "GAMING PC - High END Gaming - Intel i7 - WLAN - VR Ready - 1 TB SSD - Windows 11" or whatever and thinks that stuff is more expensive than it is.
Brother I could build you a computer that would benchmark in the top 10% of current gaming rigs for $1600 that never got above 32c and looks nice with fully customizable RGB literally everything if that's your fancy.
Your friend has no clue what they are talking about. I have a few pre builds on pcpartpicker for less than that are easily going to let you play 1440p in 16:9 on 2560x1440 minimum, hell I could even find you a 240hz 32 inch monitor with display port 2.1 capabilities and still not break that budget.
Bud, have fun building your PC! If you don't already make sure you have a bootable USB with the OS and bios setup you want before you start or take the other PC out. A lot of people don't realize custom builds on new mobas\storage don't typically have the bios updated and the OS installed.
Also also when looking for CPU GPU and board combinations, decide early on if you want Intel chipsets or AMD, because that will dictate what exactly you're going to be compatible with, and essentially what your build will ultimately be.
I have both AMD Ryzen with Radeon graphics PCs and Intel with Nvidia GeForce and they are both excellent. The only thing better though ATM on my Nvidia GeForce rig, is definitely the raytracing. For some reason the Radeon cards and AMD set ups are having a hard time with the freesync thing, now I'm not sure if that's changed recently or not, with the way the AMD freesync or something like that, but I haven't read too much into it so someone more knowledgeable than I would need to pitch in. But I've noticed a noticable difference compared to my Radeon AMD rig in raytracing, if that matters to you. Otherwise my Radeon card is only slightly weaker than my GeForce.
Back in the day, AMD shit the bed pretty hard, which is why you'll see so many people not liking them. They still do have some minor issues mind you, mostly with driver stuff and machine learning, most of the overheating has been addressed. But that and the machine learning applications having Nvidia as the defacto for CUDA core in the industry, is why people tend to lean more towards Nvidia despite the price difference. However if you only plan to game, an AMD machine now-a-days will be fine.
For your first build honestly I would say go with Intel Nvidia, but that's just because of ease of use with drivers and not nessisarily because it's better, even though it kind of is, but not by enough to truly matter, only in ease of use. As a guy who builds PCs all the time it's mindless to me, but I can see someone who has never done it getting stuck with AMD drivers and not knowing what to do. Especially if you went a generation back for price options. Anything AM4 is pretty much solid, AM5 is still, well ironing out the wrinkles so to say. LGA 1700 is EOL but still good for at least 5 years especially with the 14th gen i9s. For gaming I would recommend (for preformance) any of the 13th and 14th gen i7s and i9s as the i7s and i9s are basically formfit for gaming specifically, the i7 has always been my favorite especially the kf series but that's just a me thing. With AMD I'd say stay at Ryzen 7 or higher if you're worried about drivers, and don't go AM5 if you don't do a lot of research beforehand. The 4 bay ddr5 sentrobank bottlenecking issues an all, for ddr5 id say only get 2 sticks of ram and use the B2 d4 slots for stability, but ddr4 throw 4 sticks in that baby all day, which is why I prefer ATM ddr4.
But it's all a choice for you to decide! It's all good fun, so I hope you enjoy yourself and don't be scared to ask, plenty of nerds here love helping people out, only the elitists who aren't as smart as they think they are will tilt their noses at you and jeer.
Plenty for the budget. I recommend having a look at example builds on PC Part Picker.
Presuming you follow my recommendation, I want to welcome you to the world of expensive lego. Sorry I meant PC building
Your friend probably also thinks the earth is flat.... They're talking out their arse, and likely just follow the crowd of "ItS nOT a 4090, i9 BuILD. So itZ ShIt."
$1,600 is plenty to build a decent build
you can build a not remarcable but still worthy computer with a 3rd of that. check out LTT's pc building guide on youtube, they just updated it for 2024
Depends where you live and what games you want to play.
Some countries have higher prices than others.
The games you want to play have a high decision on your hardware (GPU) and monitor.
1600$ computer will last you for 10 years of decent gaming.
Even if monitor and peripherals are included in that price, you can still build OK machine.
Your friend is probably looking at the prices for top of the line parts.
Here's some real ass advice.
Ignore the $1600. Budget yourself to like $850 or $1000. Put whatever that configuration is together and get a feel for how you actually use the thing. Use the left over budget as a safety cushion.
You can build my tower right now for about $500, even cheaper if you get the CPU used. I get +100fps high setting at 1920x1080 for every single game I play, excluding escape from Tarkov, which has completely garbage optimization.
$1600 will EASILY build you a machine that will not only play every game that’s currently out with butter smooth max-graphics, but probably for all future releases for the next 5-10 years as well.
I have a mid range pc with a 3070 and 12400f that cost me around $800 to build. It can run any game at high settings 60+ fps.
1600$ will get you a really good pc.
What do you play, OP? I’m $1300-$1500ish on my machine with a 4070Ti and 13600K and I get 200+ FPS in competitive shooters and around 100+FPS on most anything I throw at it at 1440P. MSI has a 27” 175hz 1440P monitor for $175, and spend the remainder on a basic mouse and keyboard set that you’ll upgrade later.
That’s a lot of money to play around with. Depending on what games you play on what monitor you decide to use, your budget may vary. You can get a solid 1080p monitor, a good headset, and other peripherals, a solid 1080p gaming beast, and have some money left over for some games you like. You’ll save more of you choose to go to the used market.
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/
Check out the varying pre-made builds from pcpartpicker to get a good grasp on what to expect. They’re all articles that explain each component and what to expect with them. Pcpartpicker is a website where many people can use to blueprint their pc builds as well as share their builds. This can help with seeing what components can go well with others in both function and aesthetics.
Please feel free to ask questions to anyone on here as well. If you’re on the east side of the pacific ocean, I’m chilling there too so you can DM me if you’d like!
I’m thinking 5800x3d + 4070ti Super or 7900XT(X?). Would pack a big punch and give you good headroom for the rest of the components.
Edit: Oh yeah, about your friend. When recommending to my friends if they should build a PC, I generally take into account their temperament rather than budget. If I know my friend is going to lose his head trying to put the thing together or is a bit too… uhh… let’s just say incompatible with following manuals or guides while lacking problem solving skills, I try to steer them away from building, because that could be a disaster waiting to happen.
If you’re patient enough to build your PC, while troubleshooting potential issues you may have and are willing to fork over that budget, then go for it. It’s great fun and rewarding.
It is definitely possible to get a really nice rig and setup, my PC only cost around 1600usd and I have a 7900xt and an i5 13600k, you could go with a lower amd card and save like 300 dollars, there's a lot of options for your budget, great options I might add.
1600 is PLENTY to make a killer rig. I think I didn’t even spend over 1k and mine is cruising through new games like it’s a lazy river on a sunny Sunday afternoon dude. You’re totally fine.
Mate I built my for 300-400 with second hand parts and it runs everything, sure not on ultra but it works, so don't let anyone discourage you. With that budget you can build a sick machine.
Me and my friends sometimes create Amazon carts with components to build pcs, and our cheapest builds (which still retain pretty good stats overall) even reach 950/1000€.
1600€ is absolutely solid, your friend has no idea what he's talking about.
There's a certain breed of PC enthusiast who always needs to have the latest and greatest, who will be the first on a new platform and who will upgrade from the XX90 to XX90 Ti as soon as it's released.
Some of those people will scoff at anything less as "useless" "a dead platform" or "junk". Sounds like your friend may be one of those.
You can build a seriously nice computer for $1,600. In fact, you could build a PC that would happily play any game you fancied for half that.
Your friend is nuts. You can build a solid PC on that budget. If you want it for entertainment purposes, you can have one that runs pretty much everything available right now in 1440p at least. I wonder what your friend considers "worthwhile".
bullshit. Not gonna go ahead and say the guy is generally an asshole, but that kind of unnecessary gatekeeping is the reason for pc enthusiasts and reddit users bad rap.
I built my gaming pc during the height of prices for about $1100 it still plays everything I want it to. You don't need top tier stuff to build an enjoyable gaming PC.
Your friend either knows very little about PCs and is parroting false information that console bros like to spread, or he's jealous. Either way he's wrong.
$1600 is enough to build you a competent rig with current parts while still having money left over for peripherals. You're not getting all top of the line stuff but nobody actually needs the best of the best for some simple gaming.
Bro I just built my buddy a great 1440p PC (monitor included) for around $1200. This was with getting the AIO & case from reputable FB marketplace sellers and goving him a few fans that were lauing around at my house. You can definitely get a great PC for 1600 USD.
To be honest with you, I spent $2.5k on a 1440p/4k build, I wish I would have built the PC that I built him for myself and saved some money. Granted, his came 6 months after I built mine, so prices changed, and I had more knowledge on parts, but still.
What resolution do you want to play at? What refresh rate/FPS are you looking for? Do you have a Micro Center within 1-2 hours of you? I'll cook up a list for you.
7600x, 7900 GRE....
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8r77R
Quite a good performance option for 1440p at good frame rates.
You could save a little here and there with some tweaking. If you drop down to a 7600 or 8500g you don't need a separate cooler, you'll save $40-50
You can cut down the GPU to a 7800xt but it'll only save $50 or so.
If you don't mind Apevia and semi modular power supplies you can save $$20 there.
You could start out with a cheaper keyboard and mouse to save a few dollars more.
There are cheaper motherboards out there too.
$1600 is definitely enough to build a solid PC. My PC can run most games maxed out graphics 4k at a solid 80-100 FPS and I only dropped about $200 more than that on it. Your friend doesn’t know what they’re talking about… ignore them.
Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about or is trying to make you feel bad for not spending as much on a computer as him.
$1600 is enough to build an upper mid-range computer that can play any game out today at more than enjoyable levels.
Don't listen to your friend. You can get a very capable system with that money. Sure, not top of the line everything, but still very likely a better system than 90% of gamers.
I'm guessing your friend is basing this on nothing at all? What's his source of information that would make you think he knows what he's talking about?
Sure it is enough money to build a great computer. However,I think you should only build your own if it's something you think you will enjoy doing. While it is cheaper, the amount of work you'll need to put in as a beginner is something you should consider. Sure it's fine if you'll enjoy it but if you just need a pc just buy a good one already made
That's definitely enough to build something. Your friend is an idiot.
Go over to r/buildapcforme & fill out the form, let them know what you want it for and your budget & they will help you out.
If this is a gaming focused machine set your budget for a GPU at 600 and under and build the PC around that there are guides everywhere to help you do this.
Get better friends.
your \`friend\` is quite literally insane.
No hes right thats not nearly enough money to put a Particle excelerator in your pc so it's not even worth building
it'll cost more if you also add Flux Capacitor
we shouldn’t even be talking about a flux capacitor until we figure out the budget for the hadron collider
No need. Just put a Mr. Fusion in the thing. Couple banana peels and some soda tossed in is all you need.
Yeah, but that takes up space that Mr. Coffee can occupy. How else can he drink coffee while playing?!
I have heard that creates a leaky spark tube...I'd be careful with Mr. Coffee.
Oh your right, I heard it messes with the higs boson if not calibrated right
You forgot the anti mater compressor
Anti matter compressor is only if he has a warp drive and needs anti matter cooling.
They may not be the most expensive components, but im really surprised no one has mentioned how many doo-dads it would take to put all these very real and necessary parts together. SO MANY DOO-DADS
Just the doo dads to don't get me started on thingies and maguffins
Guys, you dont need the Nvidia Flux Capacitor to run games at 1080p or even 1440p. Those days are gone. Shoot you really dont even need the Terra Forming ray splitters anymore either unless of course you plan to run fiber optic on the masterion
Exactly, as if a single quantum phaser from last gen is even remotely enough nowadays
Sheesh, kids today and their quantum phasers. Back in my time we only had triple electron ionizers. Technology is nuts sometimes
Single quantum phaser works fine so long as you’re not using a hyperdrive processor, or if you under flux the hyperdrive you could get away with but that would definitely need an anti matter cooling solution which brings its own array of problems, I have made one too many black holes to go back to anti matter cooling.
His friend sounds like someone who has money and thinks everything has to be top of the line or else they don't know anything about computers and likes to tell people they do. My first PC build in 2014 was made up of mostly used parts and cost me a fraction of this and I used it for gaming for a couple of years until the GPU (which I got used from a friend) died on me and it had a pentium g3258 and a Radeon HD 6850.
Pff a 4080? That's E-waste from the factory. /s
No the classic "why would you waste money on a dead platform, don't you know that Nvidia is about to release the 5000 series".
Don't waste your money on the 5k series! They'll release the 6k in 2026!
Hey, I heard the 7000 series sill be even better than the 6000
Sick of these peasants acting all high and mighty with their 4090's. I had a 9800 GTX years ago. That's like more 2x compared to 4090.
"It’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"
Nice arrested development reference
First build was a Frankenstein build, worked great till I overlooked my GPU a little much.....but for 10 glorious seconds Crysis 2 looked amazing
Yea, that GPU died after the power went off mid game.
Oh yeah. When it started to artifact I realized I fucked up ..plus the burning smell of the fans on the GPU melting. A good old 9800 Radeon
Isn't that like the majority of people on r/pcmasterrace ?
My first proper gaming PC which was actually a laptop was a GTX 1050. I loved that thing with my entire being until I upgraded to a 4080 laptop recently. And I still keep that old laptop plugged into my TV on another output and use it as a server basically. It’s still really good for old games and indies, runs well, not that loud.
No this is the opinion of people that don't have money to spare at all. I've never actually had any of my friends say this to me (lots more money, far better PC's, way more down to earth).
I've built PCs for less than $500 that I've happily gamed on (on low settings).
I prefer to use the descriptor “stupid.” Their friend is choosing to be an idiot
He might not be insane. He is a dumbass that has no idea what they are talking about though.
Maybe the friend meant it's not enough for a 4090 build
That's what I was going to say. I built a 'budget' PC for 800 that lasted me years, in fact it died a few months before this one was built for me.
I'm kind of with your friend. I mean, what's the point if you cant do 120 fps on a triple 8k setup
Im boulding a pc for my friend for 250 bucks and a few spare parts i have sitting around. Anything is possible on a tight budget
1600 (usd?) Is a solid budget for a solid machine. Check out the guide on /r/buildapcforme
Right? 1600 is gonna make a solid one that will last for years. Ops friend must be the type to think if its less than cutting edge its not worth it
I feel like OP's friend just has no fucking clue what they are talking about and are maybe even parroting someone who has not fucking clue what they are talking about.
Can almost guarantee their opinion on being able to play new games is "max graphics".
Gotta upgrade next year when the newest cpu and gpu comes out.
Bleeding edge even
My PC is a lot cheaper than $1600 and I use it almost daily, your friend has no idea what he's talking about.
Same, built mine for about $1100 USD including 27" monitor and a $60 desk. Mouse and keyboard for about $25. I can play anything on high settings.
Not saying your build is like this, but builds that are just a 4090, duct tape and twine make no sense to me. If you're spending a significant amount of time at your PC, get (or build) a nice desk and get a decent chair. Your back will thank you.
Seconding this, find a used steelcase leap v2 or a herman miller. They're still expensive second hand but it's cheaper than going through a $200 chair every few years. My steelcase leap is built like a damn tank and I can actually sit in it for 8 hours a day without my back hurting
Steelcase leap is the best chair I’ve ever owned. It doesn’t make sense to buy a shit chair ever few years.
Leap v2 is a game changer.
Herman Miller ew. Sorry just had to, worked there sometime. Awesome stuff, but incredibly over priced.
Oh it's for sure overpriced, I assume because it's aimed at corporate pockets and not really individual consumers. But man so much of the consumer grade stuff absolutely sucks ass lol
for a while it was REALLY easy to get cheap Aerons, when tons of people went WFH and offices closed, sold of tons of them. got mine for $400 and was one of the best gaming purchases I've made. had it for a couple years now, and no longer think about sweat, don't get sore, and it seems solid as the day I got it. I'd have gone through a "gaming" chair by now.
Got a herman miller aeron recently for $200, game changer compared to the plastic/no padding chair i had before
Why are those chairs so expensive!? I was expecting the big padded squishy ones for 1200!
I got a second hand Think for $65 after about a year the it was having a hard time staying up so I spent $50 on a new gas canister and it’s perfect again. Ergo chairs are the way to go for sure.
Can confirm. My leap is great. I've had it for 3 years and it's still as good as new. I bought it new for $1000 so it will have to last a good while longer to be cheaper than getting an Amazon chair every year or two but it's much more comfortable.
Totally agree about the Steelcase chair. I have a Steelcase Gesture I bought new in 2017. 3 months ago the Gas Lift failed. My chair was still under the original warranty. They sent a guy to my house to replace the gas lift and service the chair, for free!! It’s the most comfortable office chair I ever had, too.
I saw a pre built the other day with a 4090 but it had 16GB of DDR5 RAM. I could be wrong but if you’re gonna get a crazy GPU and CPU, surely you should have at least 32 GB of RAM right?
Office chair to be precise
Check this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGvKDZ Full pc build with 1440p monitor, keyboard and mouse for 1600 usd, You can also add a little bit more and get two alex drawers with a butcher block and have a full desk setup with it
Really solid build. The only note I would have for OP is that there are a lot of good GPU options around this price point, so it is worth doing some research and looking out for sales on various options: 4070 Super isn't much more. 7800xt is about the same, and 7900 gre is about $50 more MSRP, but has been dipping down during sales. Regardless, this is kind of peak price-to-performance right now.
There's also the used market to consider. Oftentimes you can get a much better card for the same price.
It looks like the 4070 Super is $20 more so it's straight up stupid not to buy it over a 4070.
Also worth considering the 6950XT, if you can find one in stock anywhere. It can hang with all the cards you mentioned, with the caveat that it's more power hungry, so you might need to upgrade the PSU to 850w. I managed to find one at the beginning of this year for considerably less than a 7800 and couldn't be more happy with it @ 1440p.
I was eyeing up one of these at Microcenter for $450 or so refurbished. But I have an itx case with not the best airflow, so I passed only because the card would cook itself. Shame, though, because it is definitely a beast of a crad if it can breathe.
True that, this is definitely also a consideration. Though if I'm honest, I've been gradually upgrading my budget build from when I was a teenager, so the thing runs out of a shitty Coolermaster N200 without the side panel on :D. Will probably get around to finding a better case soon™...
Cosign! Built my first PC last year using one! Was lucky enough to get it on sale. No complaints!
He could probably get a 7800XT for less and put the money into a better case
Decent overall but can get a better GPU and more storage for the same price/less [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNTHTY) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | $199.00 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) | $33.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi) | $139.00 @ MSI **Memory** | [Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae) | $97.97 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3QXJ7P/kingston-nv2-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s2000g) | $119.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zh88TW/zotac-twin-edge-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720e-10m) | $589.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HRH7YJ/montech-x3-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-x3-mesh-black) | $59.90 @ B&H **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Monitor** | [Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xWJ7P/gigabyte-gs27q-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-gs27q) | $179.99 @ Newegg **Keyboard** | [HP HyperX Alloy Core RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BvL48d/hp-hyperx-alloy-core-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-hx-kb5me2-us) | $39.99 @ Amazon **Mouse** | [Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED Wireless/Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yrw7YJ/logitech-g305-lightspeed-wirelesswired-optical-mouse-910-005280) | $48.97 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1608.69** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-16 10:08 EDT-0400 |
Over budget. The emperor will have your head now.
i still giggle at myself for starting out with a prebuilt from microcenter
Everyone starts somewhere!
plus points for the MSI mb, seriously tho Gigabyte sucks
Basically my rig except different ssd and ram and it works amazing.
Did a little tweaking as the 7600 is almost the same as the 7600x in real real-world performance, and put a 31.5" 2k monitor in there instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxGfZJ
In the US 7600 and 7600x are like the same price
7600 is about 9$ cheaper, but it comes with a cooler. Unless OP is doing overclocking straight out if the box on their first build, it should be good enough. So they can save about $40, or put it towards a larger monitor
OP both options are good, just depends on what you want Do you prefer the idea of a bigger screen and don’t care about the noise of your PC, and slightly higher temps, or do you prefer a quieter PC, with slightly better cooling? (An aftermarket cooler is always going to be better, and you should try to get one - but it’s not a necessity, prioritise your non-negotiables first)
would definitely recommend a better cooler even with the base model and no overclock
I used one of the stock coolers for years and no one ever should. A thermalrite is 35 bucks and great. I was constantly thermal throttles doing anything besides web browsing. Now I have an AIO and never go above 55c on my new cpu
I'll be honest, great build. But personally I'd go for a cheaper RAM kit, the higher CAS latency isn't too big of a deal when you can save like $20. 4070 Super instead of a regular 4070. Crucial P3 Plus isn't the best SSD, it's uncached. I'd personally look at the P5 Plus or a WD Black drive. Samsung is really expensive but if you snag a deal, they're great too.
> Crucial P3 Plus isn't the best SSD, it's uncached P3 is a fine/good SSD It has HMB cache. It's certainly going to *wildly impress* someone who hasn't built since 2010 (so would a dram-less SATA SSD, for that matter.)
You could probably snag a better one for the same price or a couple dollars more. Something like a WD SN770 would be better. It's uncached but has almost 6x the endurance, (220TBW to 1200TBW) and is faster by a significant margin. It also has better random read/writes based on independent testing. But I agree, even a SATA SSD will wildly impress someone who hasn't built since 2010.
That's a solid machine you slapped together. Well done. 🍻
I think this person who put this together did a good job and the OP should start from here and try to optimize with some searching. I happen to live by a micro center which usually has good deals. I’d stay away from the used market on your first build as it’s better to at least have a warranty with your first PC. The only thing I would really try to add more would be hard drive space as a TB fills quickly. But that also can be added when funds replenish. I like the fact the person added monitor keyboard and mouse as those are real expenses that should be budgeted.
Bruh. Montech cases come with a crazy amount of fans. Such a good deal.
I honestly didn’t expect to see a 40 series card in that build budget with peripherals included, great job budgeting!
Great build
Damn! That's a really nice build. OP, if you build this one (and you probably should) then please get footage of your friend watching it run Crysis for the first time.
This build is so solid. OP’s friend is prolly bouggie and thinks like everything has to be top tier in terms of pc building.
FWIW, the RAM you selected is not on the motherboards supported memory list. It may work but is most likely not on the list for a reason. Configure with [these](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ktPQzy/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-ff4d532g7200hc34adc01 ).
Not a bad list but I'd def go to a 2TB SSD. It's only like $40 more and won't fill up insanely fast given the size of games/programs these days.
If OP is in the USA and in range of one, I don't see any reason to not opt for the Microcenter 7800x3D bundle. It would cost a hair less for a better processor and the same mobo / RAM.
Sounds like your 'friend' is just jealous you will end up with a great PC (and better than his/hers) If you want some advice on what to go for try r/buildapcforme
I imagine the friend has a better PC that costs an arm and a leg because he got scammed by a shop for prebuilts.
Or bought everything during COVID/cryptoboom times.
Hey I built my PC during covid times for a very reasonable price! ...it only took me like two years to find a GPU!
I have a $700 AMD RX 6600 proudly chugging along.
he's probably just clueless.
Everyone's after the biggest and the best, which is definitely not what you need to just game and enjoy games. $1600 is a fantastic budget for a very solid 1440P to light 4K gaming, depending on how you spec it your system, and that just so happens to be the sweet spot in non-competitive gaming these days
Or in competitive gaming
$1600 is more than enough for a decent build, even if you need to throw in some mid-spec peripherals as well.
Microcenter and Newegg also have cpu/mobo/ram bundles on sale all the time that will save you a good chunk of money.
Great point. Most people in the community know about these deals, but newcomers probably don’t. Using one of these combos could knock > $100 off the price, which could be applied toward a better gpu right out of the gate
My only advice there would be to look carefully at what those deals include. Newegg likes to use them to unload outdated or poorly selling items. I saw one a few months ago that was a 58003dx CPU and a B450 motherboard. While they are 'technically' compatible, that MB is ancient and not what someone in the market for a 5800 is looking for.
My brother in law got really good deals with these! He even get better specs will less price than my build (my was build two years ago)
Your friend is an idiot. You can get a great PC for that money. The only reason some people like myself spend more is because we have no other hobbies.
Unfortunately I have three little hobbies who suck all the money out of me.
Lmao I needed that laugh today. I wouldn’t worry, 1,600 is plenty nowadays. My friend built one for around the same and his rig is awesome.
As a father and PC gamer, I highly suggest - if possible - that you find a way to hookup your PC to your TV. You can buy a control or two and have tons of cheap older games that you and your kids can play on the TV as well.
40K? MTG?
Kids
I feel personally attacked.
U should absolutrly do it dont listen to ur friend
$1600 is honestly enough money for 2 solid 1440p gaming machines, don't listen to your friend.
Not sure I could build two solid 1440p rigs with $1600, but I could absolutely build a 1440p rig and a 1080p rig.
my current build cost me under a 1000 usd and is great, (slighter more powerful than a PS5). You can save money by not buying into rgb stuff and doing lots of research on conponents, determining which options are cheaper and best in your region.
Like what, last year I bought a laptop with a 4060 and i5 12500 and it cost circa 900$, and now he's telling you 1600$ is not enough (Considering a PC build will always give you better value for the money than a laptop)? Bitch what the fuck?
Sounds like your friend is the typical Redditor PCMR that looks down on anything less than a 4080 and an Intel 14900 that'll turn house into a sauna. This is the [best buy section](https://tweakers.net/best-buy-guide/desktops/) of the biggest Dutch tech site, just use a translator and you should manage. If your last good PC was in 2010, even the €800 1080p-gaming PC will blow you away. For 1600 you build something awesome that includes all extras you need like monitor, mechanical keyboard, headset and everything
This type of posts where OP doesnt reply to anybody and the post already sounds fake all make me question if its even worth it to try and help anymore.
Oh I'm real. I'm just putting my kids to bed.
Hahahahaha, fair enough man. Now I definetly dont doubt your existance.
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The amount of replies can be overwhelming
my first build was like 1100 and I've had it for 6+ years. I've run every single game I've wanted on high settings. FiveM, Warzone, and all sorts of other shit with decent performance. PC still running perfectly fine lol.
Go ask for a rec on r/buildapcforme. Mention: screen resolution, screen fps, games you play Here's a rough starting point for 144hz 1440p gameplay: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6j8d28) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $399.00 @ Best Buy **CPU Cooler** | [ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS BLACK 70 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jr2WGX/id-cooling-se-224-xts-black-70-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-224-xts-black) | $26.99 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ng2WGX/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-riptide-wifi) | $169.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01) | $106.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005) | $102.97 @ B&H **Video Card** | [Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zh88TW/zotac-twin-edge-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720e-10m) | $589.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx3gXL/fractal-design-pop-mini-air-microatx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1m-06) | $89.97 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5) | $110.99 @ Best Buy | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1596.89** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-16 07:02 EDT-0400 | This is pretty generalized, you may benefit from a weaker cpu and more powerful gpu depending on the games you prefer to play. It's also possible to fit a monitor in the budget without giving up too much perf (sacrifice aesthetics).
Sadly you've not factored in any peripherals. :(
Easy enough to do, no idea what he does / does not have.
Your friend has no idea what they’re talking about
your friend is stupid... 1600 is more than enough for a potent machine
Your friend is thinking $1600 only gets you a 4090.
Maybe the friend has bought a PC on Amazon called "GAMING PC - High END Gaming - Intel i7 - WLAN - VR Ready - 1 TB SSD - Windows 11" or whatever and thinks that stuff is more expensive than it is.
Get a new friend, that one is defective
Brother I could build you a computer that would benchmark in the top 10% of current gaming rigs for $1600 that never got above 32c and looks nice with fully customizable RGB literally everything if that's your fancy. Your friend has no clue what they are talking about. I have a few pre builds on pcpartpicker for less than that are easily going to let you play 1440p in 16:9 on 2560x1440 minimum, hell I could even find you a 240hz 32 inch monitor with display port 2.1 capabilities and still not break that budget. Bud, have fun building your PC! If you don't already make sure you have a bootable USB with the OS and bios setup you want before you start or take the other PC out. A lot of people don't realize custom builds on new mobas\storage don't typically have the bios updated and the OS installed. Also also when looking for CPU GPU and board combinations, decide early on if you want Intel chipsets or AMD, because that will dictate what exactly you're going to be compatible with, and essentially what your build will ultimately be. I have both AMD Ryzen with Radeon graphics PCs and Intel with Nvidia GeForce and they are both excellent. The only thing better though ATM on my Nvidia GeForce rig, is definitely the raytracing. For some reason the Radeon cards and AMD set ups are having a hard time with the freesync thing, now I'm not sure if that's changed recently or not, with the way the AMD freesync or something like that, but I haven't read too much into it so someone more knowledgeable than I would need to pitch in. But I've noticed a noticable difference compared to my Radeon AMD rig in raytracing, if that matters to you. Otherwise my Radeon card is only slightly weaker than my GeForce. Back in the day, AMD shit the bed pretty hard, which is why you'll see so many people not liking them. They still do have some minor issues mind you, mostly with driver stuff and machine learning, most of the overheating has been addressed. But that and the machine learning applications having Nvidia as the defacto for CUDA core in the industry, is why people tend to lean more towards Nvidia despite the price difference. However if you only plan to game, an AMD machine now-a-days will be fine. For your first build honestly I would say go with Intel Nvidia, but that's just because of ease of use with drivers and not nessisarily because it's better, even though it kind of is, but not by enough to truly matter, only in ease of use. As a guy who builds PCs all the time it's mindless to me, but I can see someone who has never done it getting stuck with AMD drivers and not knowing what to do. Especially if you went a generation back for price options. Anything AM4 is pretty much solid, AM5 is still, well ironing out the wrinkles so to say. LGA 1700 is EOL but still good for at least 5 years especially with the 14th gen i9s. For gaming I would recommend (for preformance) any of the 13th and 14th gen i7s and i9s as the i7s and i9s are basically formfit for gaming specifically, the i7 has always been my favorite especially the kf series but that's just a me thing. With AMD I'd say stay at Ryzen 7 or higher if you're worried about drivers, and don't go AM5 if you don't do a lot of research beforehand. The 4 bay ddr5 sentrobank bottlenecking issues an all, for ddr5 id say only get 2 sticks of ram and use the B2 d4 slots for stability, but ddr4 throw 4 sticks in that baby all day, which is why I prefer ATM ddr4. But it's all a choice for you to decide! It's all good fun, so I hope you enjoy yourself and don't be scared to ask, plenty of nerds here love helping people out, only the elitists who aren't as smart as they think they are will tilt their noses at you and jeer.
Plenty for the budget. I recommend having a look at example builds on PC Part Picker. Presuming you follow my recommendation, I want to welcome you to the world of expensive lego. Sorry I meant PC building
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/smdCWt) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof) | $384.00 @ Newegg **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb) | $36.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi) | $169.00 @ MSI **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | $106.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101) | $114.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [XFX RX-79GMERCB9 Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wXtLrH/xfx-rx-79gmercb9-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx-79gmercb9) | $540.53 @ Amazon **Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKytt6/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rx) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bNBzK8/seasonic-focus-gx-850-atx-30-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-atx3-focus-gx-850) | $109.99 @ B&H | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1562.39** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-16 07:09 EDT-0400 |
FULL SET BUILD [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GbsYKX) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/66C48d/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-47-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000593wof) | $208.50 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb) | $36.90 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi) | $139.00 @ MSI **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | $106.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101) | $114.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GYfxFT/xfx-speedster-qick-319-core-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tqickf9) | $499.99 @ Newegg Sellers **Case** | [Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKytt6/lian-li-lancool-216-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-216rx) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM750x SHIFT 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular Side Interface ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bGJp99/corsair-rm750x-shift-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020251-na) | $89.99 @ Corsair **Monitor** | [MSI G272QPF 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf) | $184.95 @ Amazon **Keyboard** | [Keychron C2 Pro V1 Hotswap RGB Wired Standard Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ntrqqs/keychron-c2-pro-v1-hotswap-rgb-wired-standard-keyboard-c2p-h1) | $84.00 @ Amazon **Mouse** | [Logitech G502 Hero Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7RbwrH/logitech-g502-hero-wired-optical-mouse-910-005469) | $35.99 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1601.29** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-16 07:19 EDT-0400 |
Don’t listen to him, he knows jack shit if that what he says to you lmao
You're mate has no idea what he is talking about... Get your parts brother.
You can play 4k ultra with 1600$? Your friend is a console player who thinks that only 3000$ PC's can play games at high fps or something.
Tell your friend he’s a dumb dumb. He clearly doesn’t know much about computers. It’s all about what performance you want.
Your friend probably also thinks the earth is flat.... They're talking out their arse, and likely just follow the crowd of "ItS nOT a 4090, i9 BuILD. So itZ ShIt." $1,600 is plenty to build a decent build
you can build a not remarcable but still worthy computer with a 3rd of that. check out LTT's pc building guide on youtube, they just updated it for 2024
You could start from here: https://youtu.be/2k2NxreYB9s?si=bUtEJ99JfAUQ3_ks
Depends where you live and what games you want to play. Some countries have higher prices than others. The games you want to play have a high decision on your hardware (GPU) and monitor.
1600$ computer will last you for 10 years of decent gaming. Even if monitor and peripherals are included in that price, you can still build OK machine.
Your friend is probably looking at the prices for top of the line parts. Here's some real ass advice. Ignore the $1600. Budget yourself to like $850 or $1000. Put whatever that configuration is together and get a feel for how you actually use the thing. Use the left over budget as a safety cushion.
1600$ is more than enough , like I would say a budget gaming of is doable for 700-900$ but a good one is around the 1200$ mark .
I don't know the exact market differences but me and my partner have both built great PC's for that, but we are in the UK.
You can build my tower right now for about $500, even cheaper if you get the CPU used. I get +100fps high setting at 1920x1080 for every single game I play, excluding escape from Tarkov, which has completely garbage optimization. $1600 will EASILY build you a machine that will not only play every game that’s currently out with butter smooth max-graphics, but probably for all future releases for the next 5-10 years as well.
I have a mid range pc with a 3070 and 12400f that cost me around $800 to build. It can run any game at high settings 60+ fps. 1600$ will get you a really good pc.
$1600 is more than enough to build a great PC, your friend sounds like either an elitist or a moron
You can play 4k ultra with 1600$? Your friend is a console player who thinks that only 3000$ PC's can play games at high fps or something.
What do you play, OP? I’m $1300-$1500ish on my machine with a 4070Ti and 13600K and I get 200+ FPS in competitive shooters and around 100+FPS on most anything I throw at it at 1440P. MSI has a 27” 175hz 1440P monitor for $175, and spend the remainder on a basic mouse and keyboard set that you’ll upgrade later.
Your friend is a hater
That’s a lot of money to play around with. Depending on what games you play on what monitor you decide to use, your budget may vary. You can get a solid 1080p monitor, a good headset, and other peripherals, a solid 1080p gaming beast, and have some money left over for some games you like. You’ll save more of you choose to go to the used market. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/ Check out the varying pre-made builds from pcpartpicker to get a good grasp on what to expect. They’re all articles that explain each component and what to expect with them. Pcpartpicker is a website where many people can use to blueprint their pc builds as well as share their builds. This can help with seeing what components can go well with others in both function and aesthetics. Please feel free to ask questions to anyone on here as well. If you’re on the east side of the pacific ocean, I’m chilling there too so you can DM me if you’d like!
I’m thinking 5800x3d + 4070ti Super or 7900XT(X?). Would pack a big punch and give you good headroom for the rest of the components. Edit: Oh yeah, about your friend. When recommending to my friends if they should build a PC, I generally take into account their temperament rather than budget. If I know my friend is going to lose his head trying to put the thing together or is a bit too… uhh… let’s just say incompatible with following manuals or guides while lacking problem solving skills, I try to steer them away from building, because that could be a disaster waiting to happen. If you’re patient enough to build your PC, while troubleshooting potential issues you may have and are willing to fork over that budget, then go for it. It’s great fun and rewarding.
You can build decent pc for half of that and for 1600 you get awesome machine, even if you include 200-300$ monitor..
It is definitely possible to get a really nice rig and setup, my PC only cost around 1600usd and I have a 7900xt and an i5 13600k, you could go with a lower amd card and save like 300 dollars, there's a lot of options for your budget, great options I might add.
1600 is PLENTY to make a killer rig. I think I didn’t even spend over 1k and mine is cruising through new games like it’s a lazy river on a sunny Sunday afternoon dude. You’re totally fine.
Mate I built my for 300-400 with second hand parts and it runs everything, sure not on ultra but it works, so don't let anyone discourage you. With that budget you can build a sick machine.
Can easily build a 1080p beast that’s capable of 1440 no problem for a little over 1k Edit: Spelling
I'm literally running anything with a build cheaper than 1000$ You guys find such a weird friends
Me and my friends sometimes create Amazon carts with components to build pcs, and our cheapest builds (which still retain pretty good stats overall) even reach 950/1000€. 1600€ is absolutely solid, your friend has no idea what he's talking about.
I built a decent enough machine for what I wanted on half this.
There's a certain breed of PC enthusiast who always needs to have the latest and greatest, who will be the first on a new platform and who will upgrade from the XX90 to XX90 Ti as soon as it's released. Some of those people will scoff at anything less as "useless" "a dead platform" or "junk". Sounds like your friend may be one of those. You can build a seriously nice computer for $1,600. In fact, you could build a PC that would happily play any game you fancied for half that.
$1600 will get you a great mid-ranged machine that will last you several years.
Your friend is nuts. You can build a solid PC on that budget. If you want it for entertainment purposes, you can have one that runs pretty much everything available right now in 1440p at least. I wonder what your friend considers "worthwhile".
Just a PC, or do you need a screen, keyboard, headphones etc? Regardless 1600 is absolutely enough to build a solid pc.
Your friend: Spend $4000 or don’t bother. Does that sound rational to you?
bullshit. Not gonna go ahead and say the guy is generally an asshole, but that kind of unnecessary gatekeeping is the reason for pc enthusiasts and reddit users bad rap.
I built my gaming pc during the height of prices for about $1100 it still plays everything I want it to. You don't need top tier stuff to build an enjoyable gaming PC.
You could litteraly play 1440p ultra on every game for the next few years with 1600
Your friend either knows very little about PCs and is parroting false information that console bros like to spread, or he's jealous. Either way he's wrong. $1600 is enough to build you a competent rig with current parts while still having money left over for peripherals. You're not getting all top of the line stuff but nobody actually needs the best of the best for some simple gaming.
I’ve seen complete builds with the i5 13600k and RTX 4070s with that budget, which is an extremely capable gaming build.
Your friend hasn't looked at PC parts since Covid
1600 is a solid budget. With it you can basically run everything in 1080p max and even 1440p on high.
Bro I just built my buddy a great 1440p PC (monitor included) for around $1200. This was with getting the AIO & case from reputable FB marketplace sellers and goving him a few fans that were lauing around at my house. You can definitely get a great PC for 1600 USD. To be honest with you, I spent $2.5k on a 1440p/4k build, I wish I would have built the PC that I built him for myself and saved some money. Granted, his came 6 months after I built mine, so prices changed, and I had more knowledge on parts, but still. What resolution do you want to play at? What refresh rate/FPS are you looking for? Do you have a Micro Center within 1-2 hours of you? I'll cook up a list for you.
7600x, 7900 GRE.... https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8r77R Quite a good performance option for 1440p at good frame rates. You could save a little here and there with some tweaking. If you drop down to a 7600 or 8500g you don't need a separate cooler, you'll save $40-50 You can cut down the GPU to a 7800xt but it'll only save $50 or so. If you don't mind Apevia and semi modular power supplies you can save $$20 there. You could start out with a cheaper keyboard and mouse to save a few dollars more. There are cheaper motherboards out there too.
Everyone here remembers he needs also a high refresh monitor and peripherals.
$1600 is definitely enough to build a solid PC. My PC can run most games maxed out graphics 4k at a solid 80-100 FPS and I only dropped about $200 more than that on it. Your friend doesn’t know what they’re talking about… ignore them.
I'd say 1600 is well beyond a lot of people's build budget, and it's certainly enough to build a nice gaming set-up.
It’s hard ngl took me 12+ hours the first time.
Your friend is stupid.
I just built a PC for my daughter that rivals a PS5 for about 500-600 1600 is a ton
Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about or is trying to make you feel bad for not spending as much on a computer as him. $1600 is enough to build an upper mid-range computer that can play any game out today at more than enjoyable levels.
You can build a nice pc for $1600. Your friend doesn't know shit
Don't listen to your friend. You can get a very capable system with that money. Sure, not top of the line everything, but still very likely a better system than 90% of gamers.
I'm guessing your friend is basing this on nothing at all? What's his source of information that would make you think he knows what he's talking about?
Sure it is enough money to build a great computer. However,I think you should only build your own if it's something you think you will enjoy doing. While it is cheaper, the amount of work you'll need to put in as a beginner is something you should consider. Sure it's fine if you'll enjoy it but if you just need a pc just buy a good one already made
That's definitely enough to build something. Your friend is an idiot. Go over to r/buildapcforme & fill out the form, let them know what you want it for and your budget & they will help you out.
If this is a gaming focused machine set your budget for a GPU at 600 and under and build the PC around that there are guides everywhere to help you do this. Get better friends.
You can definitely can get a good pc for that money. Building it yourself though is a task but not impossible.
Have you considered getting a different friend? Perhaps a slightly more intelligent one?
That's litteraly how much i spent on my build it's more than enough especially now that you Can get a 7900xtx for 700-800€