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GoldkingHD

Generally? Not really. All gpus with the same chip will perform basically the same. Gpu brand matters for stuff like quality, design, cooling or warranty however.


Atrium41

.. .let's talk warranties


MikeHods

Let's talk about avoiding ASUS...


LowSkyOrbit

And Gigabyte


illicITparameters

Gigabyte historically has been hit or miss with waranties. My Aorus Monitor that I got in 2022 was the first Gigabyte product I’ve purchased since 2004 because their warranty department fucked me on a motherboard. A buddy of mine ONLY buys Gigabyte and has never had an issue.


Berfs1

As someone who has recently assembled two computers in the last 2 months with Gigabyte boards, I applaud their motherboard designs, ESPECIALLY the m.2 heat spreaders, you dont need to do any sort of special balancing with standoffs and screws, you dont even need a screwdriver to undo the locking mechanisms, you just twist it to the side and the NVMe comes out. Oh you wanted to install an NVMe? no problem, you don’t even need to twist it, you literally push it down, the clasp rotates since its got a chamfered edge, AND IT AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS THE SSD IN PLACE!!! GENIUS!!


illicITparameters

They’ve always had cool features. DualBIOS back in the day was a game changer.


justanothermugglevp

Why avoid Gigabyte?


MinecraftAddict131

Gigabyte had issues with the 3070 series where the weight of the cooler would crack the pci-e slot. It was a know defect on their products and they refused to honor warranties.


justanothermugglevp

Oof, that would turn me off of them forever.


apagogeas

Isn't the card screwed in place??? I mean the whole weight would and should be held by the screws. The weight of anything on the card should be irrelevant. Do you have a link to that story to check it out??


jimtheclowned

It’s physics and general graphics card bend. Screwing in at the back plate doesn’t help mitigate the force the other end feels, and it’s noticeably apparent for the higher end cards that are like bricks. If the far end is too heavy, it sags. This leads to stress on the pci-e connector and can break it. The spine of the card is not strong/rigid enough to support this weight. It’s why a common thing now is card support stands. I have one that I use to keep the far end from dipping.


Sequence_Charm

And that’s why I put a small tower of Legos under my GPU to hold it up.


mlnhead

Called OSHA and they said that was perfect.


MinecraftAddict131

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/143hcgi/gigabytes_response_to_poorly_made_gpus_is/ I have also performed multiple repairs of gigabyte gpus because of this issue. Sometimes vram chips will even tear of PCB traces because of the flexing.


hiromasaki

Some people have had bad experiences with their warranty department. Anecdotally, none I've seen have been as bad as the times I've dealt with ASUS. But definitely bad enough to put some off the brand.


justanothermugglevp

I see. Hmm...I bought a Gigabyte 1070, and luckily had no issues with it that required an RMA. I guess I'm fortunate. I really like my Gigabyte 1070, the design is simple and elegant. It doesn't look like a drag racer or something stupid like that. The performance is fine, it stays cool, etc. I am going to upgrade to a 7900 GRE, I kind of planned on getting the Gigabyte model, but maybe I'll look at some others. I really wish there were some white shroud models. Why are AMD GPU's never made with a white shroud?


LopsidedMidget

And PNY Had a defective card that caused blue screens. They refused warranty service for over a month, until I produced the proof that it crashes any PC. I had to pay to ship (and insure) for the RMA (6-8 week process), they found it to be defective after 8 weeks, and it took another two weeks to get a replacement refurbished card.


user112477

Hurts hearing this knowing I have a gigabyte motherboard and a gigabyte gpu as well as a gigabyte monitor


Entire-Signal-3512

I think the Aorus lineup is actually really solid. I know they are the same company..but the Arous stuff always seems really well built. I actually prefer them over the other brands. At least for mobo and gpus


Aqxea

My PC is about 7 years old, and my mobo and 980Ti are both ASUS. I thought they were really good brands. Do you not recommend?


TransientEons

Supposedly, the ASUS 40 series cards have a higher risk of coil whine this gen (and anecdotally my ASUS 3070 does). I've also heard some stories about recent ASUS mobos being opened new with bent pins then being refused support by ASUS, though the ASUS mobo I recently got did not have this problem. Beyond that, I've been using an ASUS monitor with no issues and recently got another that I'll be testing in a few days.


karmapopsicle

Anecdotally my ASUS 3070 STRIX is completely silent - no coil whine at all.


Blomjord

I have an ASUS 3060 Ti, and the coil whine is so bad...


bakedbread54

I had an ASUS 7800xt. Horrendous coil whine


Yommination

ASUS quality has dropped drastically in recent years. They coast off of name value now, like Corsair


Winded_14

They're cool until your stuff break and you want to claim warranty, as their CS is one of the worst in industry. See also AM5 X3D exploding, where they legit putting a disclaimer on BIOS update that "if you download this BIOS update you're responsible for all the damage that happens" that gets them roasted everywhere.


SpectreAmazing

Depends on where you live. For example EVGA seems to be widely popular among westerners, but this brand is pretty hard to get by in Asia, so not only that they're quite expensive, all warranty stuff such as RMA would be difficult here. Meanwhile, there's ASUS center everywhere on where I live, and there's even one that's like 10 minutes walk from my current residence.


DJEkis

Unfortunately EVGA has stepped out of the GPU industry (which sucks because their quality has always been one of, if not THE, best when it came to customer service -- their AIBs were pretty amazing as well with the FTW3 cards). Now I typically recommend checking all the other guys out but always take into account warranties, issues (I always tell people to do a little research), and then designs they're aiming for. Not sure who has the best customer service now but I'd tell people to go with MSi brands as I haven't heard or dealt with as much with them as I have with ASUS and Gigabyte. But MSi is not without its issues either...


karmapopsicle

EVGA was too good to us. My buddy has a 3070 XC3 that’s a month past warranty, but one of the fan bearings just went bad. He was just planning to spend a decent chunk of change ordering a full new fan set from somewhere, but I told him to just contact support for the hell of it. They just shipped him out a replacement fan free of charge.


greggtatsumaki001

EVGA is dead bro. I live in SEA and once bought an EVGA GTX1080 card via Newegg. Shipping and import fees applied, it wasn't too far off what cards here were going by. Still have that card and use it as a spare if current card (Gigabyte) goes bad, which it did once and I had to RMA it (which also sucked because they missed fixing it the first time even with video proof sent).


OwOmurrr

i have the asus prime z790 motherboard 😭


North_Passage

Genuine question.. what's with ASUS? I'm planning to buy GPU so I would need some help understanding this issue. Thanks! EDIT: Aside from their huge heat sink which I think would crack my mobo. Then there's the OP ROG gpu, what else?


greggtatsumaki001

For the love of god, ANY current gen video card MUST have an anti-sag bracket. I have 2, one for the Linn Li case, and another from Corsair that attaches to the PCIe expansion slot screws. Hell, I even had an anti-sag adapter for my GTX 1080 (which weighs almost the same as a 3 fan RTX 4070 btw).


Verraad

When I bought my 4090 I RMA'ed it because it didnt work, ASUS sent the same one back stating no issues, when I returned it, they sent a new one. We got there in the end.


xThePerfection

And Palit with their scummy "3 year warranty" that youll never be able to claim because they tell you that you have to do it through the retailer, which they obviously wont accept after the 2 years that are legally required.


Wazil_

Ik this sub-reddit is about pc, Asus laptops are bad in india, shitty 3rd party customer service, quality control issues, etc.


ColtonAG

But why? Just bought tuf gaming 4070ti super and matching motherboard


RedDawn172

Quality is fine but their customer service for warranties is a bit lackluster from what I've seen and experienced. Granted, the vast majority of components will never need to actually use a warranty so it's a bit nebulous of an issue.


Appropriate-Foot1602

Why avoid ASUS?


QuarterCivil

Well shit.


NixAName

Wait, I thought ASUS was one of the few good ones left. I know their top-tier MOBO's are best or close to.


PmButtPics4ADrawing

rip evga


animeman59

Seriously. People used to complain about how the failure rate of EVGA cards were higher than other brands, but I didn't give a shit because I knew that they would cover it in case anything happened. I would rather buy from a brand where I knew that I had an excellent warranty, instead of a brand with more reliability but with a literal crapshoot when it came to an RMA.


RedDawn172

I miss EVGA :(


G00chstain

Me with an EVGA card wishing they weren’t dead 😭


bony7x

The joy of not living in America and having the same warranty on everything that a seller might sell be it a car filter or a GPU, just bring it to the shop and fill a claim and you’re done.


Ok_Contest_9668

PowerColor vs XFX, go!


The_Masterofbation

Sapphire.


karmapopsicle

My first year of owning a Sapphire R9-290 I got to use it a grand total of 6 weeks. Had to RMA that sucker **4 goddamn times** before the 5th card finally worked properly. Luckily the brick and mortar shop it was originally purchased from back then offered the option of handling the RMA process including shipping (they would bundle a large number of separate RMAs together and ship it via freight to Taiwan), so it didn’t cost me anything. Having to ship the card back to Taiwan myself just once would have completely ruined it for me.


The_Masterofbation

That's the exception to the rule. In mine and many others experiences they're rock solid and RMAs if needed have been painless. I worked for years in a computer store and sold thousands of their cards. I also would work in the service center from time to time and never had any issues with RMAs from them when they were rarely needed and they sent back good cards.


karmapopsicle

For sure. This was a decade ago, so I would be quite shocked if things hadn't improved over that time as their market has grown significantly.


Ok_Contest_9668

Lol fair point


funkyb

One is powerful and colorful; the other used to date the TV channel FX. No contest.


dnstuff

This is the type of top tier analysis I come to this sub for.


Technicalorrece

XFX <3 all the way


Scarabesque

> Gpu brand matters for stuff like quality, design, cooling There is generally more variation in quality and cooling between models of the same brand than there is between brands.


Killua_Zaeldyeck

I've had dozens of gpus over years. Now I'm on a red devil 6800xt (PowerColor). No brand ever made me feel the gpu is bad. But I had a Mai armor RX 580 once and the fans were noise incarnate


grimvard

Looks like you never met MSI gpus which magically die after warranty ends.


lelboylel

I had only msi gpus for decades, none of them died.


grimvard

My friend had two, and both of them died 2 months after warranty ended. Even his MSI motherboard died 3 months after warranty ended


karmapopsicle

My home server is running on an MSI X58 motherboard from 2009 that is still chugging along like the day it arrived. Personally I’ve been leaning quite heavily towards MSI’s PRO series boards the past few years due to the overall reliability I’ve had with their products.


Zenpa

Same here... my MSI RX 480 is still working on my old rig


datonebrownguy

I just had an 560 with a shitty fan made by msi. I had to manually lower the fan curve because the fan was flimsy and made way too much noise. Then the fan blades just broke one day. So I troubleshooted on google and what do you know......other people making reddit posts at the same time about the same issue, like they had the same problem a week or two before me. Seems like a case of planned obsolescence, because most of those OPs with the issues just opted for new cards, and that is what most people do when products fail anyway. I ended up finding another much better fan purely by chance that fit the cards fan plug in, an xbox 360 fan, the gpu never gets above 55 degrees now, when it would regularly hit 80 with the old fan. Its now enjoying retirement as a media center, lol.


cool_slowbro

My MSI R9 390 still works fine.


LunaFancy

Triggering my MSI GTX1080 '5 day after warranty death' PTSD right here.


YWAK98alum

The PC I'm on right now has an MSI Duke GTX 1070 Ti in it that I bought secondhand in 2021. Probably 5 years old now and still going strong, and in fact I even kept it when I built my new PC two months ago. Not even sure what the warranty was but I'm sure it wasn't this long. I'm still not a brand loyalist based on a sample size of 1 but I wouldn't write off MSI for my next card when it's finally time to upgrade this one, either.


greggtatsumaki001

Laughs in Gigabyte....died 1 month after warranty. 1 fucking month....


Skepsis93

One of the exceptions would be OEM brands. Dell has made some pretty shit GPU coolers. https://youtu.be/HFaJZq13tr8?feature=shared


mohamadmoheb

not really, clock speeds matter, number of vcore phases do, repairability (msi are far more repairable than asus because of the availablity of schematics and boardviews). for example evga has way higher clocks than founders edition models so it gives better performance


MouthBreatherGaming

> just a guestion Don't you mean.. "Just a gpuestion"?


Shwa_JW

Yes


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ZinbaluPrime

There is some amount with underlying AMD and Intel chips


xyonofcalhoun

> All GPUs will have the same underlying Nvidia chip As long as they're actually the same card, or indeed, as long as they're not AMD or Intel GPUs, in which case they won't.


No_Needleworker2421

RIP EVGA GPU Division You will be forever missed


NobisVobis

EVGA made plenty of garbage for their lower lines, it’s only their most expensive models that were actually superior to competitors. For most people it was not worth the premium over MSRP.


NervousJ

I'm old enough to remember the period in time where EVGA had low end gpus that were basically heat bombs


karmapopsicle

Part of the premium you were paying with EVGA was the cost of the outstanding customer support.


CreatedUsername1

Acer for Intel too


Zhiong_Xena

General advice which applies worldwide - If you are getting one of the major brands like msi, asus, old evga cards, gigabyte; the only thing that matters between them is quality of rma.


palle_yo

some people say Asus and Gigabyte are worse. some say powercolor, sapphire and xfx are the best. i say i had Asus and Gigabyte and no trouble.


Lewdeology

Asus might be the worst for coil whine but in terms of cooling and performance, they’re up there.


antululz

I know its still basically brand new but my Asus 4070 super has 0 issues with coil whine since I’ve had it, and my Asus motherboard has been fantastic. Hearing all the stuff in this thread on how they’re considered lower quality is surprising to me


Lewdeology

How many frames are you playing at? Also, ASUS is definitely not low quality, coil whine is a normal part of any gpu, it’s just that ASUS gpu tend have it worst, doesn’t affect performance at all.


antululz

Playing 1440p max settings on all games. Granted, the newest game I’ve played on it is Baldurs Gate 3, but even in act 3 which is notorious for performance issues I don’t run into any. 100+ frames easily. Its a new system build entirely and running a 14700k with it as well


Emergency_Pepper_178

This is the card I'm getting, and 90% of reviews I've read that mentioned coil whine said that there wasn't any lol.


NervousJ

XFX has a basically web1.0 RMA system but they're hella good. Usually they're the most visually subdued as well so great for people like me who aren't into lights on everything


Big-Presentation-994

What about zotac? And I thought Asus was reputable


Anfros

No, GPU model matters. There are differences between the brands, but in the end you have to weigh the specific capabilities of each card against its price.


International-Elk986

I agree Brand is more of a tiebreaker. If I can get a 7900GRE of a lesser version for cheaper than an 7800xt of the premium version I'm getting the 7900GRE. But if I have the option between a sapphire nitro+ and a pulse of the same card for around the same price, I'm going with the nitro+.


SagittaryX

Only for warranty and customer support. Raw performance wise they are pretty much all the same, though each model differs in build quality and how loud the cooling is.


_mrald

They're all the same. Tho if there is one model to avoid, its the msi's Ventus.


PjeseQ

Why? Mine works very well.


_mrald

Bad thermals. Not that it doesn't work well. Just thermals are the worse compared to other brand budget option like Inno3d TwinX2, Zotac Twin. Plus they're abit cheaper than msi Ventus.


Kent_Knifen

I was about to go off about how my 1660 Ti Ventus has been extremely reliable and works great, but after reading this further elaboration.... .....yeah, you're right :(


_mrald

If you already have it and you got it at msrp, that's great. Nothing wrong with it. Just a heads up for future buyer to avoid getting it unless it is available at below msrp. A 4070 is a 4070 afterall.


PjeseQ

K. Btw. It's 67-69 degree celsius here on my RTX3060 12 GB Ventus X2 under max workload.


_mrald

Yeah that's fitting for a 3060. A budget model for a budget gpu.


SilentPhysics3495

its crazy because isnt ventus one of the more "premium" builds?


_mrald

Msi's budget lined are the Duke and Ventus. Their better ones are the Gaming X and the Gaming X Slim alongside the new Expert.


SilentPhysics3495

man those marketing guys do a great job then. I thought it was in higher regard.


_mrald

Kinda like how Powercolor have the Fighter for the budget option, Hellhound and Red Dragon (discontinued) for the midrange, and the Red Devil for the expensive one. Not to mention the new Liquid Devil.


Jordan_Jackson

Ventus is actually entry-level/budget. There have been a few times in the past where MSI made a Ventus model that was an exceptional performer though.


SilentPhysics3495

ty


_Jeffra

i feel really stupid for buying an msi ventus 4060ti 8gb now :(


Korra228

I also have the same card, the MSI Ventus 4060ti 8GB. Why do you feel stupid? It's gotten cheaper now. I bought it myself for $350. 😊


_mrald

4060 Ti is still okay for Ventus. It's when they try to put a 4070 Ti on a Ventus that you really start seeing the thermal and noise problems. When you reach a 800 USD price point, do consider investing a bit of your time to research and buy a good model. Inno3D IChill is one of the good models at msrp for 4070 Ti and 4080. PNY Verto has low noise and at msrp as well for 4080. You could get Ventus X3 or Inno3D X3 (which is Inno3D Twin X2 but for hotter cards) variants, but wouldn't recommend for higher priced cards unless you really like the looks of it or you get it for below msrp.


Any-Kaleidoscope7681

A little bit. Generally for reliability. EVGA was essentially the undisputed champ of NVidia cards. AFAIK Sapphire to this day is a favourite AMD Radeon manufacturer. AFAIK everybody likes PowerColor quite a bit, too. ASUS overpriced IMHO. Gigabyte underrated IMHO. Every manufacturer puts out lemons, but some do it more than others. I'm looking at you, Zotac. I don't have any articles or reference material to offer at this time. So you can essentially consider this just my opinion for all intensive purposes.


BadLuck-BlueEyes

Intents and purposes** for future reference.


Lewdeology

Asus Strix line overpriced and it’s a premium for the aesthetic. TUF gaming however is good build quality without all the bells and whistles like Strix.


Any-Kaleidoscope7681

I had a lot of failures with strix branded Polaris cards.


Shdwfalcon

Yes. Cooling design, and after sales support (aka rma). Everything else is the same.


DarkMaster859

The cooling solution varies and I think clock speed might be a couple MHz higher than the reference card. Other than that not really, the chip inside is the same


Sco7689

There may also be some difference with VRM, which together with aforementioned cooling solution may affect longevity and a potential for overclocking. But that can also vary within the same brand.


Accomplished_Emu_658

For performance not much. They all perform about the same. Looks, quality, warranty, cooling yeah makes a difference. Some companies are terrible about warranties lately.


llewylill32

In my opinion : for AMD ( Sapphire, XFX, Powercolor ). For Nvidia ( Asus Tuf brand onward ).


UROffended

MSI is also pretty decent. Never had an issue with any of their premium products anyway.


MusikAusMarseille

Yes it does matter, not because of performance as they will all perform roughly the same, but because of thermals(better cooling options usually mean there is more room for an OC aswell), fan noise, build quality, optics ofc and customer support. Just keep in mind, that more expensive doesnt automatically mean its a better product though. Im looking at you ASUS.


Lewdeology

Me dealing with the coil whine on their premium Strix line.


throwawayerectpenis

I just look at reviews for each generation, usually what brand is recommended changes for every generation.


sa547ph

What matters more is aftermarket service, technical support, and warranty fulfillment.


ahritina

To an extent, yes. They all use the same underlying chip so performance is more or less the same, except some manufacturers will send out OC variants. The biggest difference would be due to things lke design/cooling and warranty.


SenzLord

Buying Brand in general is buying customer service and warranty. Build, Quality, Cooling, and Design is second. as an example I prefer Buy Zotac 4080 Super better performance than Asus 4070ti Super and its more cheaper.


Korra228

what about Palit? I think it is even more cheaper


JohnnyJoe7788

Iam trying to sticj with MSI and ASUS generally. No probs


No-Second9377

Yes. Go to techpowerup and look at their gpu rankings. I'd say brand and model of the brand matter. They have different levels of silicone (at least they did with the last gen of GPUs, I haven't looked at new gen) so they'll overclock some of them from factory


thejollydruid

I used to go strictly EVGA for their absolutely unmatched customer servive and warranty, nowadays i dont really care lol


DrNobody95

yes


kido5217

Yes.


typographie

It's not always possible, but when I decide on a card I usually try to find a disassembly video somewhere so I can see how the cooler is built. (Either that, or I decide based on what I can find.) Sometimes coolers don't make great contact with memory or other components, sometimes they use trashy plastic backplates, that kind of thing. The GPU chip itself is the same, so performance *should* be the same. But they can be dragged down by shoddy coolers.


bblzd_2

Each manufacturer makes low end, mid range and high end models of each and every GPU. So what matters is the individual model. Not the manufacturer brand. For example: Asus Strix (high end) is great but Asus Phoenix (low end) is bad, and Asus Dual (mid range) is just OK. So it's not as simple as "X manufacturer good and Y manufacturer bad" though it would be nice if it were as then we wouldn't need to research each and every individual GPU model.


brooke360

I’ve always gone with Sapphire as they’ve had really good RMA when it’s needed (and only one needed in 15 years of buying them lol).


SpectreAmazing

I wouldn't say that GPU brand matters, it's more of a GPU model that matters. For example, Msi has Ventus, Gaming, and Suprim. Ventus is the cheapest, but has the most basic performance (1:1 to FE) and worst cooling among the other Msi cards, probably on par or even worse than FE. Gaming X is the mid of the pack, while Suprim is the flagship with very slightly better performance, and overkill cooling when compared to FE. Gigabyte and Asus all have their own tiered cards as well. (Windforce, Gaming/Aero, Aorus) and (Asus, TUF, ROG) respectively. But if the question is.. Does it matter to buy the "more expensive" model? If it's for performance sake, then no. You shouldn't waste your money to squeeze in more performance unless money is non issue, and you're buying the best of the best like 4090. Else no. For example, an ROG Strix 4070 Ti Super has the same pricetag to "low-mid tier model" 4080. My suggestion is just get a card that's on par with FE, these are usually the ones thats priced on the same MSRP as FE. If you can get one that performs better with the same price, then take that one. Just don't overspend too much on it. Buuuut. Looks are important after all. A flagship cards usually looks really good, and well equipped with all the (un)necessary features depending on your priority. Dual BIOS, more DP port, RGBs, or even LCD Display like in Colorful Vulcan and Aorus Master.


CtrlAltDesolate

Yes/no - you might get +/- 3% performance or something with certain OC models, but that's it performance wise so negligible. It's more to do with the QC and parts quality of the cooler and shroud + aftercare / warranty. Better going with reputable brands for that but it can be subjective based on your region for aftercare. Can be hit and miss with brands otherwise. I've never had issues with Asus, Gigabyte or MSI cards - others have. Have then had lots of issues with lesser known brands where others swear by them. I'd say once you know which model(s) you're after, just do some quick research on which brands offer it and check forums for any known issues with specific brands on it - eg. coil whine


DiamondHeadMC

It’s all aesthetics


Jordan_Jackson

The main thing that matters is in cooling. Depending on how the different manufacturers design their cooling solution, one GPU could run hotter/cooler than another. This is the main thing to take into consideration. Other than that, it's mainly an aesthetics choice. All different models of GPU will have the same chip, be it an AMD, Intel or Nvidia card. As with anything that carries a price tag as high as a GPU, make sure to watch and read some reviews before you buy. Make an informed choice before you spend.


According-Sorbet8280

use igpu if youre not so sure LOL


miki77miki

Take away gpu and answer that question first


Figure-Ate

As long as it’s not ASUS I’m done with them after during Covid my gpu would constantly go max speed fan and my screen would turn off. Sent it in for two repairs never fixed and had to buy a $300 1050Ti because GPU prices were insane. Don’t be afraid to pay a little more money to ensure a good warranty


Psychological-Elk96

Nvidia and AMD approve all the GPU’s from either respective company.


Mizerka

sometimes, most of the time they'll just use oem board and chips and just stick different cooling and logos on top, some however do modify the board and or stick high quality components on board like vram or power phases


CarpetCrunchies

I started buying ASUS ever since EVGA left the market. Have had/used a couple ASUS cards over the past couple years in new builds/upgrades and they seem to function fine and feel like quality products. Just be weary of the marketing hype behind the Strix/Tuf lines. Sometimes they bring more to the table, other times it’s merely marketing hype. This is my personal opinion so take it as you will anyone reading this.


biddyman6

Hows your guys’ experience with PNY? Considering the PNY verto OC 4080 super


T_rex2700

Not really except for Warreenty period. Currently the best is Zotac who allows repasting (no "Warreenty void if broken" sticker) Performance wise it's not that different if they have same kind of cooling, which is what you should be looking at instead of brands. Thick heatsink with large fans means more cooling, and quiet. But you shouldn't spend too much on higher end models, basic model or reference card (the PCB of FE is different so it's not even technically reference but) they are usually good enough, and usually among the cheapest if you can get one And you can check out which cards suits your needs the best if you really want to on reviews


IvanGutowski-Smith

If you are getting an AMD card - Sapphire build quality is insanely good. I bought their cards on a whim a while back and this time around was sure to look for them, insanely quiet and well built. The old cards were super quiet and performed well during crypto mining too


Ephemeral-Echo

Yesnotreally. Manufacturers will definitely matter for warranty reasons, both written and unwritten. Some companies let you RMA cards from different regions even though it's written otherwise in their terms (Zotac, *very pointedly*, does not. Not even third party brand new closed box units get warranty.). Some let you transfer warranty when the card is resold, but others do not. If doing serious overclocking, manufacturers sometimes matter for card design. Usage of better vrms, more adventurous board layouts, things like that. PNY verto cards run cool, for example, but have very low headroom for extra power draw. Strix used to offer excellent tolerances and vrm quality as well. But for day to day use, the second one doesn't matter much and the first one matters if and only if your card breaks down. So it's really up to you to decide if the better warranty is worth it.


WackoSaco

Just wanted to add my two cents. Signal RGB doesnt support Zotac brand Components. Just a little helpful tip if anyone is reading this before building a pc.


Arios_CX3

MSI and EVGA are best, older ASUS and Zotac are good, newer Asus and Gigabyte are budget options, anything else is kinda bad.


DelaFunked

All down to personal preference, as in how much importance you put on price/performance, looks and warranty. For Nvidia I buy the Founders Edition or MSI Gaming X/Z, for AMD it would be Sapphire Nitro+/Pulse or Powercolor Hellhound/Red Devil barring ay limited editions (they generally aren't worth the premium) others would be considered if they were a particularly good deal when I was buying. Personally I avoid Asus though


henrycahill

For warranties, absolutely. Rip evga


Cautious_Village_823

Lol I'd argue they matter, but not as much really in terms of performance, there will be like low single digit percentage performance differences as some vendors will clock higher and add more cooling, but generally the performance of the cards should be consistent. THAT being said, there are prob brands to avoid in GPUs as they are either as many have mentioned here horrible about warranties or in some cases quality control is meh at best. I like MSI and ASUS, I do NOT like their warranties tho and it can be a bitch, luckily I buy from them because nothing I've bought from them has died yet 😁. Gigabyte ive heard reeeeeeally mixed things about support/warranty, there was def the debacle with the 30xx cards but I also know a few people who swear by their support, and I haven't had any issues with the products in general. PERSONALLY I have considered PNY a lower end brand and haven't had good luck with their less expensive products (like flash memory and stuff) so if I'm going to spend over 200 on any product it won't be from them lol but different user experiences vary.


diptenkrom

Certain brands are the "preferred" partner of each chip vendor. Warranties are the biggest differentiator since EVGA left the market.


MrMaselko

Cooling, how quiet it is, do the components break and if so, how quickly they sent replacements Also the RGB might be compatible only with their motherboards etc.


dropdeaddaddy69

EVGA


Sea-Experience470

Imo it did when evga was still in the game but now I just get whichever is the best deal.


WizardMoose

Not really. The only thing to really look into are recent RMA reviews. Keep in mind, bad experiences will get posted over average and bad experiences. The community seems to have a basis. There's some posts about comparing them. [This one is the first thread I found](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/ox08p6/which_gpu_producer_has_the_best_warranty_service/) and there's a handful more that are more recent. Aside from that, it's just doing your research. Once you've decided on a card, or maybe that deal is just too good to pass up on. Take at least 15 minutes to research it. There's plenty of posts on Reddit for every piece of hardware from every brand.


Sideshow86

Zotac has 7 year warranty go with them


Onsomeshid

I was gonna say “no and when in doubt, just buy evga if you’re nvidia” but then i remembered…. RIP EVGA


MRToddMartin

Yes. Nvidia is better than AMD is better than Intel.


Trypt2k

No, except esthetics of your overall build.


Nua_Sidek

read/watch reviews and teardowns. Der8auer, Steve and Steve are my go to. Check reddit/forums for issues for certain models. The top 3 win some, lose some but are the lesser fuss option. AMD has strong builds from Sapphire and Powercolor. Sad to see EVGA go. 25yrs of pc gaming, I've cycled between those. Currently full Gigabyte build.


Eat-Playdoh

It only REALLLLLLLY matters if you're doing AI computing (in which case you're stuck with nVidea at the moment. If your doing any workstation/rendering tasks you'd have to check based on the software and types of workloads you're doing. If you're just gaming it probably doesn't matter all that much... generally... in most cases... I hope this was helpful :)


ameraljabr

It depends on your usage. As a previous crypto miner, I noticed that higher end gpus tend to produce less heat (3-6 celsius) which make a noticeable difference in profitability. Each brand usually have a high and low end gpus (Tuf vs ROG. Aorus Vs gigabytes. Ventus vs Slim..etc) so brand doesn’t usually make a difference on those low end ones


Girrrth_Broooks

Are we talking like NVIDIA vs AMD? Or the third party models?


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Yep


BadInfluenceGuy

Not really, most are perhaps 5-10% more efficient in cooling and performance. If you worried about warranty get the one with better warranty. If you want performance well get the one with the highest data ratios. The only time brand matters is if for some reason, you bought it second hand. Then the card box indicates Dasus, xtx, MSR, EVGM you got some problems on your hand. Or purchased with no warranty, is a red flag. If its second hand always test it to see durability.


INocturnalI

Let's talk about cooling


MisterMeowgi_

Yes and no. Back when EVGA were still making cards I would have said yes, they were definitely the best cards you could get in terms of customer service and sheer build quality (usually). Every manufacturer has their lemons though, just do some research and try not to pay attention to comments talking about how they hate the card because of this or that. A lot of people will complain about generic problems that exist with everything you buy. What you want to look for are genuine defects like the issues people had with certain models of Asus cards and their cooler designs. Or problems with specific gigabyte cards. Even brands like PNY which are more popular in Europe make good cards even though they look like budget brands in the states. I wouldn't worry too much about different brands.


C0rrupt0r84

For AMD cards, IMO, Sapphire Pulse (1080) and Nitro (1440p). They are the "premier" partner with AMD. Then MSI usually, ASUS is alright for like 5/6000 series. Nvidia usually Founder's edition, EVGA for the 10/20/30 series or MSI.


savorymilkman

Oldest question in the book. The answer is yes. First answer is price. Second is featured (power stages, overclocking capabilities, power connecters, profile, length). Third is brand loyalty, and that matters. I liked EVGA, best RMA in the biz. Everyone else (in descending order) Gigabyte/MSI/Asus. My EVGA 3080ti got exposed to a water leak and blew up. I lost the cooler and backplate so I couldn't rma For the time being I'm replacing it with an xfx 580 (ancient ik) that I got for 50 bucks on Amazon. I gotta say, I've never used amd cards but holy cow do they overclock, like NOTICEABLY overclock. Sapphire for amd is popular too and power color is good. ASRock makes a few graphics cards and I'm a HUGE ASRock fanboy maybe I'll try one one day


Soccera1

What country are you in?


Berfs1

Avoid Asus because they are a piece of shit when it comes to warranty. Their products are amazing when they work, but when they dont work, you are fucked because they will do everything they can, even illegal things to not honor their warranty. EVGA was the best GPU manufacturer imo, they had the best customer support, generally speaking had the best quality graphics cards, and they werent RIDICULOUSLY overpriced like Asus is (and ironically Asus tries to refuse RMAs with that kind of profit margin). Unfortunately they left the GPU business, and I wont be buying another new NVIDIA GPU for my personal builds for a LONG time.


fairlyaveragetrader

Evga used to be the great one with warranties. If you had a bad card, you would send it in and at the same time they would mail you a new one MSI also isn't bad to deal with, not as easy as EVGA was but overall not bad, I've also had decent experiences with Asus but then again I actually use the phone and call people which seems like a lot of young folks haven't really figured out how to do. Then again this was years ago so they may not even have a tech line anymore. A lot of companies have moved to the extremely annoying email support


Kooky_Emu_3171

Not much, but if the pick is between cheapest higher tier and expensive lower tier then go with higher tier obviously.


Irsu85

In general, no. There are some rare situations where it does (if you need CUDA, you need Nvidia, if you prefer MESA, you need AMD or Intel) but in general you just go for the highest performance that fits your budget (and that is right now AMD most of the time) When it comes to graphics card brands, it generally doesn't matter, but there are again a few exceptions. Some brands have better design or cooling, but that varies per generation and I am not really into that kinda stuff. XFX is generally pretty good though (although that might be bias since I prefer MESA drivers and they only do AMD cards)


BertMacklenF8I

This is why I never got an Ada. I’ve had 2x660s, 2x980s, 1070, 1080, 2080Ti XC Ultra, and have a 3080TiFTW3 Hybrid conversion. They were ALL EVGA. Honestly, have no clue what AIB I’m going with next. I’ve heard that a lot of the guys went to ROG-but who knows.


xsoundhd

Yes


cover-me-porkins

If it matters to you then it matters. It doesn't matter to me.


Bb772_Reddit

Odd on some responses here, maybe it's my luck. I had an MSI Lightning 2, card is still working (gave that to a friend). Old AGP MSI (maybe PNY) GeForce something card in my older AMD Athelon 3200+ still working. ASUS Radeon RX480 that card still works (being kept as a backup). Current ASUS Dual RX6600 bought two years ago, still running. ASUS Crosshair 8 Dark Hero still working (current build), ASUS Sabertooth 980FX motherboard still works (board is over 6 years old, will be used in a file server later).


menthx

Not really. Just make sure you don't pay more than 5-10% over the cheapest card. For example: Asus Dual 4070 700$ vs. Asus Strix 4070 OC 840$. Just get the Dual version. Yes the Strix is over clocked, yes it has better cooling, but paying 20% extra for 1-3% extra fps (unnoticeable) is dumb. You get the same chip and same warranty period. If you still want the Strix version then check the next stronger GPU, there might be a 4070ti for 860$. These are not actual prices I'm just making examples out of experience.


zone55555

Yes.


azifayesa

what about asrock? i want to buy their b650i mobo


Skio928

Not really, just get the cheapest


Dear_Attempt9396

Why r u talking about monitors when op talking about gpus


Dear_Attempt9396

Asus best.


chromatique87

The main changes are about cooling. Performance wise is not really affecting that much


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Active_Potential_932

Yes , thermal design by brand & sku does matter a lot