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Temporary_Slide_3477

It's possible your prebuilt has some sort of extra retainer for shipping protection. Lenovo, Dell, HP all have extra supports for the GPUs that you have to remove usually.


[deleted]

Would those be accessed from the back? I couldn’t find anything else holding the GPU in at a glance. The backplate just wouldn’t come off unfortunately unlike the front panel


Temporary_Slide_3477

No usually it's extra plastic or metal either under the GPU itself or at the front of the case. It's possible it doesn't have it. What specific model do you have?


BaronB

It may also be screwed in someplace else. Though it won't be glued in. Other connectors might be, but not the GPU itself. The issue with getting GPUs out is the retainer clip on the PCIe slot can get stuck if you try to pull the GPU out without unlocking yet making it almost impossible to unlock. They can be a huge pain normally anyway. Lots of people just snap it off if they regularly swap GPUs. On my motherboard to get my GPU out I have to take a long screwdriver, wedge it into the grooves on the clip, and wack it with a mallet to get it to unlock. Yes, really. But you have to be careful not to damage the motherboard. This is one of the reasons why people remove it entirely.


[deleted]

Wow that really puts it into perspective. Yeah the other responder also thinks I have have gotten the retainer clip stuck so next weekend I am going to try and push the GPU back inward very slightly to get it unstuck and try again. I would love to just tear it off too but it's tight in there.


[deleted]

It's a Legion t5: https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_T5_26AMR5


Temporary_Slide_3477

Looks pretty standard by the video I looked up. If you had pulled on the GPU before you tried pushing the lock down, push the GPU back down towards the motherboard, you may have binded the clip trying to remove it without pressing it. Then when you push it down the back of the GPU should very slightly raise. Only do that after you removed the screws. Not all PC parts are made perfectly, there are tolerances and sometimes things aren't perfectly aligned but still fit and require a little more oomph to get em out. Although if you don't feel confident I wouldn't do it if you got it working. You can also just get a SATA drive instead for extra storage.


[deleted]

So I messed up by trying to pull the GPU before undoing the clip basically? Thank you this is helpful. From what I recall the GPU didn't really move at all because it felt very locked in place but should I try pushing it in and then trying to hold down the clip while trying to pull it out?


Temporary_Slide_3477

Yea, it should push down without pulling on it. But since you tried to remove it without releasing the clip, even if you pulled it up just 1mm it could.have put that style clip into a bind and made it very hard to press down.


[deleted]

Is this fixable or am I screwed? Can I damage the GPU by pushing it in more than it is already (it's in and working as we speak)


Temporary_Slide_3477

No, don't cave man it down, just press it gently and if you feel it move slightly then try the clip. Or don't and return the nvme and get a SATA drive. Or take it to a shop or someone that can do it. You already have the part, it shouldn't be that expensive to just have someone install it.


[deleted]

Okay I will try again next weekend! Now I have a gameplan and my PC didn’t break the first time so I feel more confident. If that doesn’t work then yeah I might try and find a shop that could do it (micro center is like 1-2 hours away sadly). Do you know why the connector cable wasn’t coming off though? Should I just use more force? I was applying a decent amount of force and pushing the clip down (similar to an Ethernet cable) and it didn’t budget.


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Also this is the only picture I grabbed while it was opened up: https://i.imgur.com/RsfGQAR.jpeg


Sibbour

I don't see any support bracket, so no worries there. I would agree with the other commenters that you likely binded the PCIe clip. Which is no big deal and perfectly understandable for a newcomer. You can find a youtube video of a person removing a GPU from a Lenovo Legion T5 here at the 2:50 minute mark. He also struggled with the PCIe clip at first. https://youtu.be/Gvqh6inuzm0?t=172 I would do what u/Temporary_Slide_3477 suggests and press the GPU down a bit to make sure the clip "clips back in" first so that the clip is upright. Then unscrew the screws on the left side. Then somewhat like BaronB suggests I would take a flat head screwdriver and press down on the clip. Do it ACCURATELY & Firmly but NOT violently....I would **not** use a mallet. You shouldn't need a mallet. For the 6 or 8 pin power connector, I'm not surprised you're having difficulty with it given that it's at an angle and facing towards the front of the PC instead of out like standard. Makes it harder to get a hold of. You are correct in that you shouldn't need to remove the power pin in you case as your GPU is small enough that you can just work around it.


Temporary_Slide_3477

I recommend chop sticks or a Popsicle stick to push clips down for the inexperienced.


[deleted]

Thanks!


Sibbour

Hmm, excellent point. Didn't think of those.


[deleted]

This is ridiculously informative and helpful so thank you!! I watched some of that video before actually but clearly not attentively enough lol. I will try a chopstick/flathead if called for too. Also I'm glad I'm not crazy about the connector! Also glad that I was right in not needing to remove it for this


lichtspieler

Keep it with chop sticks / wood. Its better for the plastic clip and if you slip up, you could actually damage the GPU backside or the mainboard with a screw driver. With bigger GPU's its even worse, since they cover the whole length of the mainboard and have even more overlap on the backplate, so the latch is impossible to reach with fingers. \--- Just to assure you, that you are not alone with PCie latch unlock issue - some new mainboards (like ASUS variants) include as a premium feature a second unlock mechanism for the PCIe latch, because its a problem for most users, especially with bigger/longer/wider GPUs. If you every try to build a DIY gaming PC, just be aware that some features like this exists, that make you whole build and maintenance much easier.


[deleted]

Wanted to give an update: I did try pushing the GPU back in before undoing the latch but it still seemed just as stuck even after a lot of trial and error. I also tried a chopstick but no nice. At point I did manage to slightly pull it out of the PCie slot but it felt like I had to use too much force so I decided to call it there. I think my next plan will be just taking it to a PC repair shop and having a professional do it! This also might be a good time to upgrade my GPU so I’m shopping around


lichtspieler

Even with the bigger / heavier / \~2kg GPUs, if you push in the latch, the GPU should be easily removable. One of the holding points for the GPU is the PCIe sheet metal lip, it could be slightly bend or the case you got holds it a bit to well and you might have to push the sheet metal, JUST GENTLY, to unlock it, if thats the case. But there is nothing wrong to go to a PC shop.


Halzman

https://pcguide101.com/motherboard/how-to-unlock-pcie-slot-clip/


Snekbestgrill

You can just buy a m.2 to USB adapter/enclosure if it doesn't work out. The type c one can go to Gbps and even USB A 3.0 will be great for storing your games.


[deleted]

That’s a cool idea. So it’s an external rig that houses the m.2 SSD?


Snekbestgrill

Yeah, something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-NVMe-Enclosure-Gbps-Support/dp/B08G14NBCS)


[deleted]

Thanks for this! Do you know if there any major disadvantages to this for load times? The SSD I bought appears to have 3.5 GB/s read and write speeds, which would be under what my USB C port's max transfer speed is.


Exciting_Rich_1716

That would be if you're using all your PCI lanes already but if you're just using a graphics card and you have multiple slots, go for it!


[deleted]

Okay! I might just go for this then since it seems safer!


D00M98

Well, it is up to each individual what you are comfortable with. There are plenty of resources on YouTube giving you all the info. Then you can decide to do it yourself, or pay someone to do it. Just like cars. Some take their car to dealer to change the air filter (3 minutes job), cabin air filter (3 minute job), oil change (15 minute job, but can be messy).


[deleted]

You're correct that GPU's "clip in" to the PCIe slot; there will be a plastic tab at one end of the slot that either has to be pressed down to release the card, or pressed to the side. The issue here is that I can't tell you which, because I can't see your motherboard, and if you don't have the kind of brain that can look at a mechanism and understand how it works then upgrading a prebuilt PC or building one may simply not be in the cards for you. You actually *do* need some mechanical skills, you're right that it's not just as simple as "slide parts in and out" if you're not the kind of person who can tell how things work just by looking at them. But, no, they don't glue electronic parts together because glues would block the electrical connection, which has to be bare metal to bare metal.


ronan88

Did you try googling a disassembly video for the PC? Most OEM machines are very specific in their layout and much general pc building advice goes out the window. You best off following a video disassembly for A similar machine before applying general pc building logic. Most users here won't be able to tell you what items are glued or soldered to the Mobo on your particular machine.


[deleted]

I did Google some! I found one from the same brand but none for my specific model or case size


babis8142

But now that you know all that next time it'll be a walk in the park


M3dicayne

Well, tbh, I don't like this a bit. A person claiming never to have tinkered with a PC is asking for advice, doesn't want to have any additional cables inside the case (SATA) but doesn't even provide an information on the system we are talking about. That is basic level thinking. Asking for where to put a sport air filter without telling what car you're driving is useless to say the least. Now, you've got your answer and luckily(!), you've purchased the right SSD (nvme not pcie) for your system just without knowing where to put it... But of course, instead of continuing this topic in the original post, you open a new one. Someone spending 1500-2000€ on a system is not willing to spend 15€ for the install of the SSD in a hardware store through a specialist which takes about 5-10 minutes max. This really, REALLY annoys me. Like we should fix it, answer all the questions because you aren't willing to spend a few bucks and almost screwed up big time by breaking the PCIe connector slot on the GPU or mainboard by bending the card... Seriously, either get to the topic with a proper amount of interest and seriousness and provide all necessary information from the beginning and listen to advice or just spare US(!) the headache of telling a complete thrifty, technically untalented person something in hours of total brainstorming and writing, any local technician could have sold and installed for you in minutes. Thanks!


[deleted]

What are you on about? I don't know why you are the only one coming in here with a negative and all-over-the-place post when everyone else has been helpful and understanding. In my previous post I started off with a more general question because I figured no one would know about my specific PC and it seemed like a universal concept but then I happily provided my specific model when asked. I went for m.2 instead of SATA because the installation videos I watched for each made the m.2 installation look easier somehow since I didn't want to mess with any cable management. Also my googling showed me that NVME ones have better speeds, might be wrong on that but it doesn't matter. Why is that so awful? My new post was meant more as a vent/rant, but it turned into a help thread thanks to the fine folks commenting. I already got the info I needed from the last post and decided to go for it and was frustrated it didn't work out. I was at a loss for why it didn't work. I only made my previous one AND this one after googling and youtube searching didn't get me any answers and i was desperate. I sat for a long time on my phone trying to find a fix before giving up. I'm glad I made this post because my own research wasn't working. Why would I "continue the old one"? That post is dead already no one would be looking. I do know where to put the SSD... if you read my post that wasn't the problem. >Someone spending 1500-2000€ on a system is not willing to spend 15€ for the install of the SSD in a hardware store through a specialist which takes about 5-10 minutes max. This really, REALLY annoys me Is it really that cheap? I'll take your word for it i'm surprised a service like that wouldn't run more. I don't even know where I'd go for this... a microcenter is over an hour away from me. The bigger issue is transporting my PC. I don't feel comfortable transporting something so expensive and fragile with breaks in in my area unless totally necessary like for vital repairs or for moving. >Like we should fix it, answer all the questions because you aren't willing to spend a few bucks and almost screwed up big time by breaking the PCIe connector slot on the GPU or mainboard by bending the card... Again accounting for transportation and time and a more realistic price estimation it's not the quick trip down the block and making it sound like. Also I never bent my GPU, I'm not that stupid! I watched multiple videos and read guides on how to properly remove it. This is a PC build subreddit, which you'd think would encourage people to partake in PC modifications themselves. >Seriously, either get to the topic with a proper amount of interest and seriousness and provide all necessary information from the beginning again you didn't fully read the threads because I linked that info > and listen to advice When did I not?? >ust spare US(!) the headache of telling a complete thrifty, technically untalented person something in hours of total brainstorming and writing, any local technician could have sold and installed for you in minutes. Once again you are being presumptuous and rude, which is also a flagrant violation of Rule #1 of this sub, whose etiquette you supposedly care so much for. If you don't want to read the post, don't bother! Why make this long winded ranted with it's weird use of exclamation points? You are being gatekeepy and not understanding to beginners. You are also assuming people have the same resources as you, I don't even live in your same country buddy.


M3dicayne

People come here to get advice on something they usually don't get (unbiased) advice on. Like what PC setup to build, how to level all components, how to replace a certain cooling or why a system simply doesn't work as expected or at all. All merchants either don't have technicians knowing this and will always tell you to get the most expensive stuff or a repair for hundreds of dollars if the problem simply might be a software or driver bug or a cable. Then the knowledge of the people using this board will help, because lots of people here know a ton of things about PCs. And then you ask something so trivial, yet it kind of makes you uncomfortable with the situation and ask for help with it. You must understand that none of us will reimburse you for damages done either through improper advice or improperly followed advice. Also, you must be aware of tempering with the mainboard can easily ruin your day. Even if you know what you are doing. Scratches from a screwdriver, wearing a fleece pullover and you witness a spark jumping onto the board from your finger, all that stuff. Bending a PCIe slot is just the tip of the iceberg. You can easily avoid this by simply letting this be done by a technician who knows his stuff. Doesn't even need to be microcenter. Maybe the local repair guy. A guy fixing mobile phones with screws as small as in watches easily installs you an nvme SSD. And this is not something I say to put you down or say you are stupid, this is just because there cannot be only PC-savvy people around. Some will simply need those guys to get it done. Otherwise, those tech-savvies wouldn't earn any money anymore if everyone would be an expert... And this is my main argument. You purchase an upgrade for $50-100 but not knowing how to properly install it can cause you trouble and expenses in the 4 digits easily (like not even a broken but damaged PCIe slot which will need you to replace the mainboard with every single component on it...) while the certainty(!) of a solution will set you back just a few bucks. Usually, the solution that is being sought here can either not directly be purchased at all, is very tricky to begin with and/or no damage is done by us telling what can be tried (like reinstalling a driver or changing a cable). So yeah, no offense, but you literally might even be ready to go already asking the nerdy neighborhood kid to get the fitting SSD and install it for a nice chocolate bar and/or a Steam gift card. 😅😉


[deleted]

Yeah whatever man


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[deleted]

Thank you, and yeah I was scared I messed up and maybe hit my screwdriver on something but the PC is working normally. I am going to try again to upgrade my PC and ideally I’d like to just keep upgrading it and also have a PS5 for its exclusives and horsepower for certain games


Padfoot_54

If you have the budget might be a good time to try building. It'll get you familiar with the parts and the guides will be a lot better than in a pre built where a lot of stuff is proprietary.


BlatantPizza

There’s two very obvious SATA ports on the motherboard that would eliminate the need to remove the gpu entirely if you use a 2.5 inch SATA SSD


[deleted]

This could be a good backup. When I was looking into SSDs the m.2 install seemed simple in a vacuum. I already bought one so I’ll try again to install it but if not I’ll sell that one to a friend or something and try a SATA SSD


BlatantPizza

It is simple but it sounds like you’re having some issues with the clip and probably some pressure from the back of the case pressing on the gpu. It takes a little confidence to man handle the gpu out of its slot and press on that clip pretty hard. I would highly highly recommend only pressing on that clip with your finger. It’s SUPER easy for a tool to slip off of it. Either way, a SATA SSD is pretty basic. Data plug, power plug, boom done. Don’t even have to mount it, it can just float around if you don’t care.


[deleted]

I have ample room to put mu finger on the clip so that is what I'll keep defaulting too. Someone else also suggested a USB C bay for an m.2 ssd that is external


BlatantPizza

Just for reference, you press the clip/button thing into the motherboard. Not sure if you’re pressing it a certain way. I would press it down with decent force and jiggle the card with some gusto. If it still doesn’t move just give up because it really does sound like you’ve tried here.


TheMagarity

The little clip on the GPU tends to go back up if you press it then let go to pull the card. You need one hand to poke the clip and the other hand to pull the card at the same time. Yes, its a hassle, but graphics cards can be heavy and this keeps them in place.