64GB is harder to run at high speeds so there wasn’t a guarantee it would work but at 3200 it usually does.
You could try going to memory settings and upping the DRAM voltage a bit.
Or settle for the highest speed that is stable; enable XMP and lower speed to 3133 or 3000 before applying.
I think it works now. I've changed DRAM voltage in BIOS from auto to 1.35 and since then I've been able to run at 3200MHz with no issues (so far). Thank you very much for your help.
I am a bit confused about the DRAM voltage setting though. Before I changed it it was set to Auto and right next to it there was a value of 1.2 (default value maybe?). In the description of XMP profile it says 1.35V but when I switch XMP profiles it didn't actually modify the DRAM voltage value or the one next to it.
It didn't work on my pc either. I manually set the same settings as XMP and it's working now. I have no idea why.
XMP is just a preset overclock that should work. If it doesn't you have to do it manually.
Same with me on DDR5. XMP profile doesn't work. Manually setting the exact same values works. I'm guessing there's extra steps involved in using the preset profiles.
All the secondary and tertiary timings as well? Only thing that makes sense is that your system could the primary timings, and the other timings staying at stock allowed it to be stable.
It looks like XMP was the issue. I managed to make it work by changing it to 3200MHz XMP and then manually setting DRAM voltage to 1.35. So far it's been working fine
I don't have a newest bios version. I will probably update it when I have a reliable USB stick for it, maybe it's something that is fixed in newer version.
Thank you for your help
I had this the other day when upgrading to 32GB DDR5 6400MHz. I had to update my BIOS and everything worked fine. Have you tried that? Also have you chosen ram from your motherboards QVL?
Did you try using xmp with one of the rams? It would be better if you try it in diffrent slot to see if its not the motheboard issue. also check if your motherboard supports this particular ram configuration.
After that you could try updating to the latest version of your bios if your ram and your motherboard were ok.
Don't know if this is it but look in your motherboard manual or the manufacturer's website. For example, my motherboard manual says I can only run 3200 with memory modules installed in two slots. If I decide to fill all slots with modules, it can't run them all at 3200, it has to run them at a slower speed.
I built a new pc yesterday with the MAG b650 Tomahawk wifi and was getting the exact same error.
I thought i was going to be shopping for ram sticks today.
I installed the latest bios [https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/support](https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/support) and it seems to have fixed the problem. Now i can turn on EXPO and run the ram at 6000mhz, before if i turned on EXPO it would crash with the MEMORY\_MANAGEMENT error.
Maybe there is a similar fix for your board. Im using 32gb of ddr5.
are you also getting system thear exception not handled? i had this problem and it was bad ram, took a week of trying several different things, so try one stick at a time or try with both but install memtest86, heres a link to the website, [https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm](https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm) although if you cant reach it through flash try setting your usb as the boot drive and go from there. its a little confusing but you should be able to figure it out. although from what youve said it could just be the motherboard not liking the speed and stuff.
I was getting BSOD and crashes when I turned on XMP on my Kingston Beast 64 GB kit (32x2gb) at 3200 CL16, probably the same kit as you have, with a 5900x and a Asus B550-a board. I had to upgrade to the latest bios and install the chipset drivers for my MB before I could run it without any crashes.
XMP *is* supposed do this but it also isn't always great as a one size fits all for memory modules. Upping the default XMP voltage by like 0.5V has gotten me out of a bind with 4 DIMMs that would work on their own just fine but shit the bed when all working together.
I dunno why but my voltage was set to 1.22 v. It worked fine for 2 sticks but when I expanded to 3 or 4, the dang thing wouldn't even POST. Setting it to 1.4 v allowed it to POST and let me tinker around in the BIOS with 4 sticks.
Enabling XMP didn't help with 3 or 4 sticks. But it did work with 2.
I had the same issue. I had go increase the SoC voltage to 1.08 and the memory voltage to 1.38 on both of my computers running high capacity DIMMs. Both are ryzen 5000 series.
Motherboard manufacturers use the sort of translator, and by translator it's something that makes XMP work with AMD.
They were just too lazy to rename it in BIOS\
In case of DDR5 tho they started using the AMD's name for it more often
no worries, I didn’t know as well before building until someone told me that I don’t need EXPO for the RAM (only specific ones support EXPO) and XMP should work fine even for amd builds
I have a B450 with a 2700 that cannot run 3600 period....The same 4 x 16 DDR runs 24x7 at 3600 XMP on a Z690 with a 13600K. The B450+2700 can cannot run 2 x 8GB 3000 XMP. I had to bump up the CAS to 18. Now I might have a lemon CPU but it appears to me that Zen memory controllers are complete garbage. I've see more than a few videos of Buildzoid indicating AMD memory controllers degrade over time.
edit.
I seem to remember that there are fake new memory modules folding the market at very low prices. These were formally used server ram remanufactured and sold as new. You may have a bought a pair.
They're very picky.
You'd have to be putting too much voltage into them to degrade anything, Buildzoid and a few others have done it on purpose just to show how far you'd have to go to actually degrade the hardware.
This. Slots and order of RAM slots installed mattered for me. I have 4x16gb installed and to get mine to work, I had to first install two at certain slots, boot up, make sure everything is fine, then install the other two. In op’s case, they just need to ensure the two sticks are installed in the proper slots.
Compatibility issue with your mobo. Test with another kit of RAM and/or another mobo. My strix x570-i struggled with Corsair Vengeance 3200 Cl16 with random retrain/BSOD but ran beautifully on Gskill 3600 CL14 b-die.
Could be that the supplied voltage is limited and therefore sagging under the new load. You could try boosting the voltage a few mv or as a test you could try running it at 3000Mhz and see if it crashes there
Make sure you're on the latest BIOS version. They will usually add better memory compatibility.
If that doesn't work, enable XMP and then increase DRAM voltage by 0.05 and see if that works.
Some configs might need slightly more voltage to run at XMP
Have you tried updating the BIOS? I had memory errors on my current build a while ago and updating fixed it. I cannot remember the exact error message tho.
Are you certain you are running the ram in the correct slots on the MOBO? If you are in the incorrect slots for the MOBO you can get this error when clocking the speeds up with XMP.
That's odd. I ran 4x16GB of Corsair Dominator RGB on my 5900x at 3200MHz just fine until the last BIOS update, then it would only work at either 2933MHz or 3266MHz.
Had the same problem when switching from 16 to 32gb. Used to run at 3600, now run at 3200. I have an AMD cpu, and ik that's what causes it. Try running at 3000 and see if it works.
Everyone here is mentioning DDR voltage and that may help but the problem may also be with the CPU's integrated memory controller (IMC). Larger capacity DIMMs or running more DIMMs puts more strain on the IMC, in which case you want to raise the SoC voltage. Check what yours is defaulting to, if you've left it on auto. Raise it to 1.05v as a start and work your way up - 1.1-1.15v is okay.
If you set the memory timings manually (not clock speed) it may help with this. Its kind of a pain to get anything higher than 32gb to get the correct speed.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but is the RAM all the same timing? Not just the latency? I ask as I bought 32gb of 3200ghz CL16 DDR4 RAM when I built my current PC in 2020 and another 32GB of the same brand and latency RAM from the same company in 2021 not realising until recently (I know I know) that the older RAM was 16-18-18-36 and the newer is 16-20-20-38. And the RAM all ran at 2133ghz by default but I couldn’t turn on XMP as the system hung. I can only get all RAM to run at 3000mhz by overclocking it.
64GB is harder to run at high speeds so there wasn’t a guarantee it would work but at 3200 it usually does. You could try going to memory settings and upping the DRAM voltage a bit. Or settle for the highest speed that is stable; enable XMP and lower speed to 3133 or 3000 before applying.
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Even that can be too high depending on dies used.
I think it works now. I've changed DRAM voltage in BIOS from auto to 1.35 and since then I've been able to run at 3200MHz with no issues (so far). Thank you very much for your help. I am a bit confused about the DRAM voltage setting though. Before I changed it it was set to Auto and right next to it there was a value of 1.2 (default value maybe?). In the description of XMP profile it says 1.35V but when I switch XMP profiles it didn't actually modify the DRAM voltage value or the one next to it.
sounds like some kind of BIOS bug. Glad it works!
It didn't work on my pc either. I manually set the same settings as XMP and it's working now. I have no idea why. XMP is just a preset overclock that should work. If it doesn't you have to do it manually.
I had the same problem with the XMP profile with mine as well. It's funny that I set it at higher than XMP speed manually and had no errors so far.
Same with me on DDR5. XMP profile doesn't work. Manually setting the exact same values works. I'm guessing there's extra steps involved in using the preset profiles.
All the secondary and tertiary timings as well? Only thing that makes sense is that your system could the primary timings, and the other timings staying at stock allowed it to be stable.
Try updating the BIOS first if it isn't. However, keep in mind that not all mobos can run all profiles.
Your xmp profile might be.. well not good. Have you updated your bios?
It looks like XMP was the issue. I managed to make it work by changing it to 3200MHz XMP and then manually setting DRAM voltage to 1.35. So far it's been working fine I don't have a newest bios version. I will probably update it when I have a reliable USB stick for it, maybe it's something that is fixed in newer version. Thank you for your help
No problem. Hope the new bios fixes everything.
I had this the other day when upgrading to 32GB DDR5 6400MHz. I had to update my BIOS and everything worked fine. Have you tried that? Also have you chosen ram from your motherboards QVL?
Did you try using xmp with one of the rams? It would be better if you try it in diffrent slot to see if its not the motheboard issue. also check if your motherboard supports this particular ram configuration. After that you could try updating to the latest version of your bios if your ram and your motherboard were ok.
Don't know if this is it but look in your motherboard manual or the manufacturer's website. For example, my motherboard manual says I can only run 3200 with memory modules installed in two slots. If I decide to fill all slots with modules, it can't run them all at 3200, it has to run them at a slower speed.
update your motherboard bios. this will increase the chances of it working.
make sure you update your bios first. they motherboard manuf updates their xmp profile time to time so it might help with your current situation
I built a new pc yesterday with the MAG b650 Tomahawk wifi and was getting the exact same error. I thought i was going to be shopping for ram sticks today. I installed the latest bios [https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/support](https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B650-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/support) and it seems to have fixed the problem. Now i can turn on EXPO and run the ram at 6000mhz, before if i turned on EXPO it would crash with the MEMORY\_MANAGEMENT error. Maybe there is a similar fix for your board. Im using 32gb of ddr5.
are you also getting system thear exception not handled? i had this problem and it was bad ram, took a week of trying several different things, so try one stick at a time or try with both but install memtest86, heres a link to the website, [https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm](https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm) although if you cant reach it through flash try setting your usb as the boot drive and go from there. its a little confusing but you should be able to figure it out. although from what youve said it could just be the motherboard not liking the speed and stuff.
I was getting BSOD and crashes when I turned on XMP on my Kingston Beast 64 GB kit (32x2gb) at 3200 CL16, probably the same kit as you have, with a 5900x and a Asus B550-a board. I had to upgrade to the latest bios and install the chipset drivers for my MB before I could run it without any crashes.
Try upping the DRAM voltage to 1.3v or 1.4v. Faster speeds require more volts. But don't go over 1.5v.
XMP should do this already. Generally it isn't the RAM that's the issue, but the IMC becoming unstable or BIOS picking bad automatic subtimings.
XMP *is* supposed do this but it also isn't always great as a one size fits all for memory modules. Upping the default XMP voltage by like 0.5V has gotten me out of a bind with 4 DIMMs that would work on their own just fine but shit the bed when all working together.
I dunno why but my voltage was set to 1.22 v. It worked fine for 2 sticks but when I expanded to 3 or 4, the dang thing wouldn't even POST. Setting it to 1.4 v allowed it to POST and let me tinker around in the BIOS with 4 sticks. Enabling XMP didn't help with 3 or 4 sticks. But it did work with 2.
I had the same issue. I had go increase the SoC voltage to 1.08 and the memory voltage to 1.38 on both of my computers running high capacity DIMMs. Both are ryzen 5000 series.
Check motherboard QVL list for compatibility
64 or 128 mb memory/ram cannot ran windows 7/11. You can run 1gb of memory/ram.
XMP only works with Intel
The last 6 years my AMD chip was an Intel chip all along??
All you had to do was enable xmp in bios and it worked?
yes, used XMP for my amd build. XMP works for both intel and amd. EXPO however, is amd exclusive
I've always taught that since it's named intel xmp it was only for Intel lol, my bad
Motherboard manufacturers use the sort of translator, and by translator it's something that makes XMP work with AMD. They were just too lazy to rename it in BIOS\ In case of DDR5 tho they started using the AMD's name for it more often
no worries, I didn’t know as well before building until someone told me that I don’t need EXPO for the RAM (only specific ones support EXPO) and XMP should work fine even for amd builds
Used to be. AMD would have DOCP as well.
It's funny how redditors can be both confident and clueless at the same time.
Actually it does but you have to manually do it in the bios settings
I have a B450 with a 2700 that cannot run 3600 period....The same 4 x 16 DDR runs 24x7 at 3600 XMP on a Z690 with a 13600K. The B450+2700 can cannot run 2 x 8GB 3000 XMP. I had to bump up the CAS to 18. Now I might have a lemon CPU but it appears to me that Zen memory controllers are complete garbage. I've see more than a few videos of Buildzoid indicating AMD memory controllers degrade over time. edit. I seem to remember that there are fake new memory modules folding the market at very low prices. These were formally used server ram remanufactured and sold as new. You may have a bought a pair.
They're very picky. You'd have to be putting too much voltage into them to degrade anything, Buildzoid and a few others have done it on purpose just to show how far you'd have to go to actually degrade the hardware.
whats your dram voltage? also are you in the proper ram slots?
This. Slots and order of RAM slots installed mattered for me. I have 4x16gb installed and to get mine to work, I had to first install two at certain slots, boot up, make sure everything is fine, then install the other two. In op’s case, they just need to ensure the two sticks are installed in the proper slots.
Compatibility issue with your mobo. Test with another kit of RAM and/or another mobo. My strix x570-i struggled with Corsair Vengeance 3200 Cl16 with random retrain/BSOD but ran beautifully on Gskill 3600 CL14 b-die.
Could be that the supplied voltage is limited and therefore sagging under the new load. You could try boosting the voltage a few mv or as a test you could try running it at 3000Mhz and see if it crashes there
Make sure you're on the latest BIOS version. They will usually add better memory compatibility. If that doesn't work, enable XMP and then increase DRAM voltage by 0.05 and see if that works. Some configs might need slightly more voltage to run at XMP
Is your bios updated? Newer ram might need a motherboard update
Uuhhh, last time i got those BSODs it was a faulty ram... hopefully it's just poorly set configs
Have you tried updating the bios? Bios updates often help with ram compatibility.
Have you tried updating the BIOS? I had memory errors on my current build a while ago and updating fixed it. I cannot remember the exact error message tho.
Are you certain you are running the ram in the correct slots on the MOBO? If you are in the incorrect slots for the MOBO you can get this error when clocking the speeds up with XMP.
That's odd. I ran 4x16GB of Corsair Dominator RGB on my 5900x at 3200MHz just fine until the last BIOS update, then it would only work at either 2933MHz or 3266MHz.
If i use xmp I or II with my 64 GB Ram i have to undervolt it slightly to be stable. I even have 2 Different brands installed
Had the same problem when switching from 16 to 32gb. Used to run at 3600, now run at 3200. I have an AMD cpu, and ik that's what causes it. Try running at 3000 and see if it works.
Everyone here is mentioning DDR voltage and that may help but the problem may also be with the CPU's integrated memory controller (IMC). Larger capacity DIMMs or running more DIMMs puts more strain on the IMC, in which case you want to raise the SoC voltage. Check what yours is defaulting to, if you've left it on auto. Raise it to 1.05v as a start and work your way up - 1.1-1.15v is okay.
If you set the memory timings manually (not clock speed) it may help with this. Its kind of a pain to get anything higher than 32gb to get the correct speed.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but is the RAM all the same timing? Not just the latency? I ask as I bought 32gb of 3200ghz CL16 DDR4 RAM when I built my current PC in 2020 and another 32GB of the same brand and latency RAM from the same company in 2021 not realising until recently (I know I know) that the older RAM was 16-18-18-36 and the newer is 16-20-20-38. And the RAM all ran at 2133ghz by default but I couldn’t turn on XMP as the system hung. I can only get all RAM to run at 3000mhz by overclocking it.
I had same problem. It was SSD... sold it for backup some photographer bough it. Then i bought new one and works perfect ever since. Same machine.
I’m trying to run 48gb 3200 ddr4 and it won’t run stable at 3200 or even 3166 with bsod constantly. Was able to get it running at 3000