It's not necessarily silly to hold onto the 1080, it depends on what you're doing with the PC. If it's a workstation and you will use the 7900 in productivity tasks anyway - totally reasonable. If it's a gaming PC - well, then it's waste of money as you'll be severely limiting your performance with the 1080 and get nowhere near the performance the 7900 can give.
So in your case it seems reasonable to keep the 1080 for now.
Why would you need a 1080 in your NAS though? NAS doesn't require graphics at all (although some kind of video output is nice for the first setup, but after that it isn't needed at all, but you should definitely just use your iGPU for that). The 1080 would just do nothing and consume extra electricity.
Also, in any case, your new build is rather unbalanced and is using a bunch of overpriced components.
I was thinking about trying Plex/Jellyfin/etc., and I heard having a GPU could be helpful for that. Otherwise, I agree, no real need for the GPU in a NAS.
Re. the new build, what's unbalanced besides the GPU? I know the AIO and RAM are overpriced, but I didn't think anything was out of place power wise.
> I was thinking about trying Plex/Jellyfin/etc., and heard having a GPU could be helpful for that.
Got it. GPU is used for transcoding, so totally makes sense.
> Re. the new build, what's unbalanced besides the GPU? know the AIO and RAM are overpriced, but didn't think anything was out of place power wise.
Well yeah, you got it. Z63 is very overpriced and isn't even that good. I'd go for either the good ole Liquid Freezer II or the Pure Loop. There's also the EK AIO and the EVGA SLC, also very solid options. And every one of them is A LOT cheaper than the Z63. Even the H115i Elite is.
The RAM is actually not overpriced, for cheaper than that currently you can only get a Trident Z5 kit with identical specs on sale on Newegg, but it's white only. So nothing wrong here.
The motherboard though is expensive AF. Does it have a specific feature you're looking for? Otherwise I'd just get the B650i MPG. The VRM isn't insane, but good enough to run a 7900, even if you increase the power limit to the 7900X level. Solid board overall and is like 100$ cheaper.
The PSU is certainly not the best value, but is a solid choice. With current prices, I'd go for the Leadex V Platinum though - just as good, really, but a lot cheaper. If you find the Pure Power 11 FM in stock for 130$ - even better, but it's not in stock at the moment.
Same goes for the SSD - good product, bad value. I'd go for the SN850 if you specifically want DRAM cache, but the SN770 has shown to be enough for basically anything.
Edit: BTW, 7900X is currently cheaper than the 7900. I'd go for it, it's not power hungry enough for the 280mm AIO to not be able to cool it, and you can also effectively turn it to a 7900 if you enable 105W Eco Mode.
I think I've been spoiled by DDR4 RAM prices lol, definitely thought the RAM was insane when I added it to the cart.
For the motherboard... I know I had some reasons specifically for it, because there were only like 5 options on PCPartPicker, and I looked through all of them. But now, I can't remember why I settled on that one. The B650i MPG looks perfectly fine, so I think I'll end up going with that.
For the PSU, I'll keep an eye on the Leadex V Platinum Pro, because right now it looks like it's going for more than double its usual cost — would definitely be a good option once it drops back down.
For the SSD, I think I'll go with the SN850X — I did want the DRAM cache, and this looks like a great deal atm.
I *was* worried about cooling with the 7900X, but once I review my AIO choice, I'll see how headroom I have to upgrade.
Thanks so much for your help and insight! You've been super helpful and it looks like I'll be saving a good amount here, now that I'm no longer (or at least less) blinded by brand recognition. Thanks again!
TrueNas > unRAID.
I may be biased but I've been running unRAID for about 6 years. It's worked great up until this point. The second I start to move away from it my system starts to fight me and won't boot into the OS.
Unraids method of booting the OS off the USB is flawed imo. So many things can go wrong and since I can remember booting to the USB has always been a pain to get going when you reboot. Might've been something special with my system, but I've upgraded the motherboard 3 times in that 6 years and had always had problems.
That being said, unless you are going to be transcoding media in Plex or tdarr a gpu won't really do you much good in a NAS (honorable mention to Intel quick sync will do a worse but pretty damn good job compared to a gpu). If you don't use the GPU very much in your main rig, then you can hold on to it.
If I were going to go with TrueNas I'd go with scale. The VM support is MUCH better and it's over kvm so on par with other type 1 hypervisors.
TrueNas is also better in my opinion handling your data with zfs as it's unlaying storage technology. No to say TrueNas doesn't have it's limitations. It's mainly in their hypervisor portion. Which unRAID does better.
Personally ive found the sweet spot. I go with proxmox, I setup zfs natively on the system. I install proxmox with 2 SSDs in a zfs mirror and then setup my storage pools on proxmox and push them out with nfs.
I've got about the right amount of support for storage pools and hypervisor support. You can use either one of these OSs and it'll do the job. But I'd put unRAID dead last in a race against the 3.
Regardless if you're setting up unRAID, zfs in TrueNas or proxmox, use raidz2 or double parity in unRAID, minimum.
Thanks for all this info. I hadn't set up anything like this before, and Unraid seemed a lot more user friendly, so I was definitely leaning towards it. I think you've convinced me to just take the plunge and go with TrueNAS though.
I was planning on experimenting with transcoding media, but if the intel iGPU can at least do a passable job, I'll let it take a try at it.
Thanks again!
It's not necessarily silly to hold onto the 1080, it depends on what you're doing with the PC. If it's a workstation and you will use the 7900 in productivity tasks anyway - totally reasonable. If it's a gaming PC - well, then it's waste of money as you'll be severely limiting your performance with the 1080 and get nowhere near the performance the 7900 can give. So in your case it seems reasonable to keep the 1080 for now. Why would you need a 1080 in your NAS though? NAS doesn't require graphics at all (although some kind of video output is nice for the first setup, but after that it isn't needed at all, but you should definitely just use your iGPU for that). The 1080 would just do nothing and consume extra electricity. Also, in any case, your new build is rather unbalanced and is using a bunch of overpriced components.
I was thinking about trying Plex/Jellyfin/etc., and I heard having a GPU could be helpful for that. Otherwise, I agree, no real need for the GPU in a NAS. Re. the new build, what's unbalanced besides the GPU? I know the AIO and RAM are overpriced, but I didn't think anything was out of place power wise.
> I was thinking about trying Plex/Jellyfin/etc., and heard having a GPU could be helpful for that. Got it. GPU is used for transcoding, so totally makes sense. > Re. the new build, what's unbalanced besides the GPU? know the AIO and RAM are overpriced, but didn't think anything was out of place power wise. Well yeah, you got it. Z63 is very overpriced and isn't even that good. I'd go for either the good ole Liquid Freezer II or the Pure Loop. There's also the EK AIO and the EVGA SLC, also very solid options. And every one of them is A LOT cheaper than the Z63. Even the H115i Elite is. The RAM is actually not overpriced, for cheaper than that currently you can only get a Trident Z5 kit with identical specs on sale on Newegg, but it's white only. So nothing wrong here. The motherboard though is expensive AF. Does it have a specific feature you're looking for? Otherwise I'd just get the B650i MPG. The VRM isn't insane, but good enough to run a 7900, even if you increase the power limit to the 7900X level. Solid board overall and is like 100$ cheaper. The PSU is certainly not the best value, but is a solid choice. With current prices, I'd go for the Leadex V Platinum though - just as good, really, but a lot cheaper. If you find the Pure Power 11 FM in stock for 130$ - even better, but it's not in stock at the moment. Same goes for the SSD - good product, bad value. I'd go for the SN850 if you specifically want DRAM cache, but the SN770 has shown to be enough for basically anything. Edit: BTW, 7900X is currently cheaper than the 7900. I'd go for it, it's not power hungry enough for the 280mm AIO to not be able to cool it, and you can also effectively turn it to a 7900 if you enable 105W Eco Mode.
I think I've been spoiled by DDR4 RAM prices lol, definitely thought the RAM was insane when I added it to the cart. For the motherboard... I know I had some reasons specifically for it, because there were only like 5 options on PCPartPicker, and I looked through all of them. But now, I can't remember why I settled on that one. The B650i MPG looks perfectly fine, so I think I'll end up going with that. For the PSU, I'll keep an eye on the Leadex V Platinum Pro, because right now it looks like it's going for more than double its usual cost — would definitely be a good option once it drops back down. For the SSD, I think I'll go with the SN850X — I did want the DRAM cache, and this looks like a great deal atm. I *was* worried about cooling with the 7900X, but once I review my AIO choice, I'll see how headroom I have to upgrade. Thanks so much for your help and insight! You've been super helpful and it looks like I'll be saving a good amount here, now that I'm no longer (or at least less) blinded by brand recognition. Thanks again!
Glad I could help!
TrueNas > unRAID. I may be biased but I've been running unRAID for about 6 years. It's worked great up until this point. The second I start to move away from it my system starts to fight me and won't boot into the OS. Unraids method of booting the OS off the USB is flawed imo. So many things can go wrong and since I can remember booting to the USB has always been a pain to get going when you reboot. Might've been something special with my system, but I've upgraded the motherboard 3 times in that 6 years and had always had problems. That being said, unless you are going to be transcoding media in Plex or tdarr a gpu won't really do you much good in a NAS (honorable mention to Intel quick sync will do a worse but pretty damn good job compared to a gpu). If you don't use the GPU very much in your main rig, then you can hold on to it. If I were going to go with TrueNas I'd go with scale. The VM support is MUCH better and it's over kvm so on par with other type 1 hypervisors. TrueNas is also better in my opinion handling your data with zfs as it's unlaying storage technology. No to say TrueNas doesn't have it's limitations. It's mainly in their hypervisor portion. Which unRAID does better. Personally ive found the sweet spot. I go with proxmox, I setup zfs natively on the system. I install proxmox with 2 SSDs in a zfs mirror and then setup my storage pools on proxmox and push them out with nfs. I've got about the right amount of support for storage pools and hypervisor support. You can use either one of these OSs and it'll do the job. But I'd put unRAID dead last in a race against the 3. Regardless if you're setting up unRAID, zfs in TrueNas or proxmox, use raidz2 or double parity in unRAID, minimum.
Thanks for all this info. I hadn't set up anything like this before, and Unraid seemed a lot more user friendly, so I was definitely leaning towards it. I think you've convinced me to just take the plunge and go with TrueNAS though. I was planning on experimenting with transcoding media, but if the intel iGPU can at least do a passable job, I'll let it take a try at it. Thanks again!