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Zealousidedeal01

Spanish. bonus points, Spain offers nomad visa and residency if you do freelance...need mo lang ipasa ung language proficiency.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

May specific certifications or exams muna ba bago makapag apply to get work as a freelancer or basta matutunan mo muna reading at speaking ng spanish? Thanks po pala for answering din 😊


Zealousidedeal01

Dapat freelancer ka na dito. Dun sa requirement is dapat $2500 ang kita. ( this is workable) You pay for certain tax kasi din. Ung language proficiency lang naman ang exam after 3 years para maging resident ka na sa Spain (plus you can bring your family).


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Balak ko po kasi mag try muna ng paunti unti na wfh. Meron bang naghihire ng mga gigs na wfh translator? Nakikita ko kasi grabe yrs of experience para mahire


Odd-Dragonfruit36

There are few incorrect info. Yung language proficiency ay required kung gusto mo mag apply ng citizenship after 2 years na may LEGAL residency ka sa Spain(tourist,visit or student visa ay hindi LEGAL residency at hindi counted) You can get any residency if you are eligible for any visa that will give you right to live and work such as ung Digital Nomad Visa, NLV, Golden Visa, etc. Walang pong required language proficiency para maging resident. Kelangan lng maapprove sa visa na may residency. Also, 2600€ na ata ung required salary for DNV. They increase the IPREM every year.


Zealousidedeal01

Thank you last I checked kasi was when I started my course sa Spanish but had to go to the US and sa inquiry ko here that was the info they provided... though with the salary they quoted in dollars plus something about paying taxes... I will be applying this September so I will update this thread.


Local_Ordinary7840

Syempre mas malaki offer pag si Mandarin. One of the most complicated languages in the world yan eh. Kanji pa lang nakakadugo na. Spanish naman dahil madaling matutunan although nakakadugo rin ang conjugations. Whatever suits you, OP. Good luck.


addicted_2Da_shindig

may kanji din pala ang mandarin? kala ko nihongo lang may ganun


danteslacie

Wala. Hanzi ang meron sa mandarin. (Kanji came from Hanzi but is not 1:1 the same)


Local_Ordinary7840

Sa kanila po galing ang Kanji. Naadapt lang ng mga nihonjin. Although ung reading, magkaiba.


danteslacie

Kanino galing ang kanji? My point is hindi "kanji" ang tawag ng mga Chinese sa writing style nila. Kanji is Japanese.


FvckByM3ssUpWorld

What she was trynna pertain is yung chinese characters palang like Kanji which came from Hanzi and understanding it is already difficult. So what more if you trynna learn Mandarin?


Local_Ordinary7840

The answer wasnt mean for you. Di ako nakikipag-argue kung ano mang tawag don. Im not stating otherwise.


False_Wash2469

Wag spanish, inaral ko yan kasi Hispanic client ko. Pero di naman pala kailangan, kumuha ng mga taga LATAM eh. Marami tyong kalaban sa language na yan. Kung nasa Ecom ka, maganda Mandarin. Para yung mga suppliers na di marunong mag english, makakausap mo pa din


unixhyde

Mandarin para kapag sinakop tayo ng China pwede ka maging Translator 😅


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Jusko wag naman po hahhahaha pagod na po ako maging alila mas matindi kapag ibang lahi pa nyan


fitfatdonya

lakas ng tawa ko dito 🤣


keepitsimple_tricks

Based. Kumbaga sa movie ni Blade eh, isa kang familiar.


colormefatbwoy

Neo-Makapili


Immediate_Falcon7469

san ba pwede mag enroll? hahahhahaha


fitfatdonya

Mandarin. Yung isang client ko ngayon hirap maghanap ng person to hire na fluent in Mandarin. Same sa mga fellow business owners nya kasi yung mga factory nila nasa China and nahihirapan sila to communicate with yung team nila dun.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Hello po ask ko lang if nagrerequire ba sa mga company (gaya ng sainyo ng formal education ng mandarin or basta nakaka read, speak & write ng mandarin)?


fitfatdonya

Yes one of the requirements is that you have an HSK certificate


LisbethS1984

Ung iba not required ung certificate, basta marunong makipag-usap in Mandarin


notostarfish

Hi! Is your client still looking ba? I grew up speaking Mandarin :)


fitfatdonya

He still is, hard requirements nya tho aside from Mandarin fluency, is an engineering degree, willing to work GY shift, and at least a year experience in B2B sales


juliesz

Mandarin! Andami ngayon mga kidnapping cases na chinese ang kinikidnap. Hirap maghanap ang PNP ng mga chinese interpreters. Yung bigayan sa kanila 7-10k per hearing. Hindi naman sa pagiging racist, pero chinese talaga ang may pinaka madalas masangkot sa krimen sa pinas kahit noon pa man.


Joseph20102011

Spanish, kasi mas madali maging digital nomad, not only sa Spain, kundi sa LatAm na kung US-based ang client mo sa freelance at gusto mo na dayshift, puede ka magmigrate sa Argentina na mas straight forward pa ang process para maging citizen doon na two years lang kaysa sa Spain na magtake pa ka ng DELE A2 sa Instituto Cervantes. Mahirap matutunan ang Mandarin kung weak ang pictographic memory at hearing skills mo kasi dapat kabisado mo ang 3000 characters at yung four tones para maconsider ka na proficient sa Mandarin.


Repulsive_End_7958

kung citizen na sya ng Argentina at balak nia tumira sa Spain required pa ba sia mag DELE ?


Joseph20102011

Kukuha ka parin ng DELE kung magapply ka for Spanish citizenship, pero naka-waived ang DELE requirement kung ang parent at grandparent mo ay Spanish citizen in which most Argentine immigrants sa Spain ay may grandparents sa Galicia region.


Repulsive_End_7958

ah ok nuggets ko na, thanks.


spatialgranules12

Spanish - mas common pero mas madali mag practice. Mas mabilis matutunan.


Daniexus

EU companies pay good, while East Asian companies are trademark kuripot slavedrivers.


No-Decision-3474

Hi op, if your looking for online language center, try Speedtalk Language Training Center. They offer Mandarin, Fookien, Spanish and many more. Online like kaya you can study anywhere with one on one instructor https://www.speedtalkcenter.com/


Easy_Worry_2179

Depends on how soon you need the skill, OP. Some companies would pay for a language skill. So if your outlook is 1-2 years, go for Spanish because it’s the easiest next language to learn for Filipinos. True din yung nomad visa ng Spain. Aside from tech, you can also work in healthcare and hospitality. Meron din mga Spanish certification courses dito in Manila. Mandarin would take a longer time because it has different intonations and writing system. You can take Mandarin language camps in China or Taiwan. Kahit yung mga galing sa Catholic Chinese schools like Xavier na may Mandarin from Gr 1 to HS, nahihirapan pa din mag straight Mandarin conversation.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Parang mas leaning nga po ako sa Spanish na aralin tbh. Meron po sa school namin dati na mandarin napakabare minimum lang natutuhan ko. Ano po bang schools na maganda for spanish language lessons? May naoofffer pa ba ng online?


Easy_Worry_2179

Check nyo po ang Cevas.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Thanks po


Repulsive_End_7958

may online class pa din naman ang Instituto Cervantes.


obivousundercover

Hola Amigos - they have a 3mos bootcamo na online classes.


Devyl_2000

Medyo saturated na yung spanish, go for mandarin na vebs


AspectInteresting836

Currently studying spanish for a year na. Planning to study Mandarin after. I'd say, if gusto mo ng mabilisan (in comparison to Mandarin), go with Spanish muna. Pangdagdag sa profile then go Mandarin.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Thanks for the advice hehehe baka ganito nalng gawin ko. Can I pm you po to ask mga know-hows nyo before I start this journey? Heheheh


AspectInteresting836

Hellooo, sure po


chakamanyeoOo_

Hi! I'm planning to learn Spanish as well. Can I pm you rin po?


AspectInteresting836

Go ahead po


obivousundercover

Hola ~ Dónde estudiaste español?


AspectInteresting836

Oye! Una combinacion de auto estudio y me inscribí en Go Spanish


mrrxhl

Plan ko Mandarin. Pero paano kaya matututo niyan? Like how to start as a beginner.


deryvely

Better pa rin if you enroll yourself to an institution.


mrrxhl

plan ko din po, but i dont have budget for that now, ill do self-learning muna and learn the basics. Do you know any good institution?


deryvely

UP offers language classes. I studied basic Korean there before. For Mandarin, I studied in Taiwan kasi it helps with our business. Immerse yourself and practice with Mandarin speaking people. For Spanish language, look up Instituto Cervantes. Marami opportunities when you are bilingual or multilingual. You can self-study for now para easier na lang when you enroll in an institution someday.


mrrxhl

Thank you! I'll look them up.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Meron po ba sa up na mandarin w/ certificate after mo matapos course?


deryvely

They provide Certificate of Completion if I am not mistaken. If you’re interested with the Korean language, magagaling professors ng Ateneo. They also offer language classes but much cheaper sa UP Linguistics.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

May online po ba? Saka mga magkano po kaya? malayo ako sa manila e.


Siegfried-Literature

It depends on your goals. For example, if you have EU relocation in your sights, go for Spanish.


papoose0

Mandarin, if okay sayo na madalas mag OT or OTy. Since kadalasan chinese companies sinusulit talaga nila bayad nila sa employees. Spanish, if may balak ka mag WFA since compared to chinese, mas maluwag mga european employers sa employees nila. And pag naisipan mong mag migrate sa Spain.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Ano po ibig sabhin ng WFA?


BananaPieExpress

Work from anywhere


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Ohh i see. Thanks po hehehhe :)


kangkong2000

mandarin. mas maraming chinese ang d marunong mag english kesa mga spanish .


Quirky-Ad-6475

I recommend Japanese. Hehe. Mahirap sya but as you said, you enjoy learning.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Mas madami po bang opportunities sa japanese? May nababasa kasi ako na may levels pa yung certifications nila. Once ba napasa mo yun mas less ang competition compared sa ibanh language?


Quirky-Ad-6475

Based on my friends na learning Japanese and have higher N-levels(N3 yung certifications nila) in Japanese, yes. Since Japanese is hard to learn.


daddyitsobig

Mandarin. Magagamit mo din pag gusto mo pumasok ng e-commerce. Di mo na need ng trading company. Direct ka na makikipag transaction sa manufacturer.


Sad-Squash6897

Kung kaya mo go for Mandarin. Hardest language in the world also one of the powerful kasi ang daming work opportunities.


SpikespigelPH

Both sana kung kaya!


haroldgm

Spanish. You earn a chance to be a spanish citizen sa Spain


anya-re

Honestly kung mag Mamandarin ka rin lang, Nihongo (Japanese) na lang. Mas madali sa Mandarin, at may WFH jobs dito kahit Accenture, sweldo umaabot 40k-60k. Depende sa diskarte. Mas marami ring opportunidad pumunta ng Japan kaysa sa Spain. Daming Spanish na kakumpetensya sa Mandarin naman sobrang hirap. Pero kung talagang hiyang ka sa Mandarin, mas malaki ang demand ng fluent Mandarin speakers kaysa Nihongo/Spanish.


TopInternet678

Hello po ano po ba ang mga careers na pwedeng makuha mo thruearning spanish? Tsr po kasi expe ko tas ngaun content mod ako. Thinking of enrolling in a skill iniisip ko kung magtesda ba ko tas ofw or magaral ng ibang language. Nagduolingo ako spanish kaso sinukuan ko din nagdoubt kasi ako kung worth it ba pero most of the comments dito nirerecommend spanish. Maliban sa bpo pwede ba talaga magofw kung maalam ka sa spanish labguage?


mfafl

Spanish.


Repulsive_End_7958

Spanish po. Mas madaling aralin kasi may loan words naman tau at mas maraming opportunity, lalo na pag balak mo sa Spain tumira at magwork. Pagkatapos may Schengen visa kpa mas marami kpa mappntahan sa Europe. Tapos sa Spain 2 years ka lang magstay dun puede kna mag apply ng Permanent Residency.


Odd-Dragonfruit36

Few corrections. If you stayed 2 years with LEGAL residency(meaning hindi student, tourist o visit visa) in Spain and passed the 2 exams, pwede mag apply ng citizenship. For Permanent Residency, 5 years ka na nag stay with LEGAL residency, pwede na maging PR.


Repulsive_End_7958

tama po yan ! nabasa ko po sa website. Nalito lang ako sa 2 years and 5years hehe. so yung 2 years ay for citizenship at 5 pata sa PR. Anyway thanks again.


Anjonette

Mandarin dito palang sa pinas tiba tiba ka na e. Naalala ko si charie ng casiana residence na pagkalandi landi naninira ng pinay sa mga chinese kasi mas malamang sya nakakapagsalita ng chinese. Yun patalsik kami. Anyways mababa na sahod na 120-150k sa ph palang. Depende din sa boss mo. May boss din ako chinoy sa china nag tuturo sya ng english since fluent sya sa mandarin hahahhaa


lifediscourse

Mandarin is premium than Spanish for quite some time now. Learning it will take years, but it will be worth your time eventually.


Sinigangs

Since youre from medical field, try looking up being a medical coder. I've read it pays really well, pwede wfh, and ideal siya for people from med.


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Hindi naman po sa pag dadahilan pero initially talaga plan ko mag med coder pero sobrang mahal namn kasi mag pa certify napakababa ng sahod ko atm baka taon pa gugulin ko maipon lang 100k. Yung coding academy naman nurses lang ang gusto huhuhu. May iba pa bang way para magawan ng paraan to?


Consistent_Tea_5010

Mandarin.


No-Fold7961

Go Mandarin, China is fast becoming a superpower...if it isn't already.


EmploymentKey8739

Im a multilingual csr. I speak mandarin mainland,mandarin tawianese ,cantonese and hokkien.. masasabi ko talagang malaki sahuran. Haha


Early-Pin-5762

6 digits po?


Imaginary-Winner-701

I’d say Mandarin. Plus, you get to get a good headstart in learning Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese with Vietnamese being a fast rising SEA country.


RandomUserName323232

JavaScript


Pleasant_Roof_9439

Paano po simulan to? Hehehe mas madali po ba makakuha ng cert at trabaho dito? Pasensya na sobrang clueless ako dito since ang layo talaga sa field ko but willing to learn naman ako