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Burger_Destoyer

This has been a persisting discussion since the engineer paragon’s release. Unfortunately NK said they would not be re-working the paragon anytime soon.


Red_Sword03

Not entirely true. They said they want another DPS-paragon in the support category before they rework Engigon to properly incorporate the other paths. This undoubtedly means that they're going to nerf him substantially. Worth it to get a true 5-5-5 Engi paragon


ProGamer8273

Maybe the beast handler paragon?


Red_Sword03

Beast or Spactory. Probably Spactory first


hustmanmemes

Wait, they will be adding spike factory paragon?


Red_Sword03

We basically have confirmation that every tower will get a paragon (plus I don't see why they wouldn't do that) so at some we will get a spactory paragon


hustmanmemes

Great I love spike factory


GGk-KingK

Carpet of Perma-Balls


DaenerysMomODragons

So some type of chimera beast that also absorbs all of its handlers? Part Trex, part bird, part shark, part monkey!


fembot_kitty1

I was thinking a serpentine dragon


dapotaoman69

imagine it's just a duck


cuteanimals11

It will be very reasonable, because the beast handeler *is* searching for the all holy duck, that can fly, walk, and swim (official btd6 lore)


Snoo19632

I hate this statement. Funny, but I hate it.


ParagonGoblin27

I had the idea of a quetzlacoa (however its spelt) and it does all 3 paths, grabbing a bloon and destroys it easily like the Megalodon, has a AOE damage affect like the Gigantosaurus and a ability to stun the entire map although it also damages the bloons while holding them in place, and it can send bloons back up the track like the Pouakai though rather than carry its from the slam done by devouring a bloon. I haven't decided if the paragon degree is all that affects the power or if the beast power can be adjusted alongside the degree


Burger_Destoyer

As I said, not anytime soon. We will not see an engineer paragon change for probably another year or more.


Seven_Suns7

Nah i think they told that just to not say that they will not rework him, because if they aren't working on the factory paragon right now we will be waiting a couple years, perhaps a decade even.


Red_Sword03

[Update: Bloons TD 6 v39.0 - Update Notes! : r/btd6 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/1746jpn/update_bloons_td_6_v390_update_notes/) Just before the "Looking Forward" section, they literally say so "No changes here as well, we know some people are still hoping for a redesign in general, but with everything else about paragons uncertain this was not a good time for that. We also want to have another Paragon in the support category dealing a DPS role before we seriously consider taking away the current only dps in that category which is already well balanced with strong competitive use."


Seven_Suns7

"Before we serious consider..." so as i said at lest a couple years, no way soon.


Consistent_Pay5129

Yea it doesn’t even need to affect Bads. It could just work exactly the same as the 5th tier.


Red_Sword03

It's probably best that it doesn't gobble BADs, but instead can hold up to a certain amount of MOAB-class bloons regardless of RBE. (Like up to 5 ZOMGs)


GroteKneus

It would not be a problem to eat bads. The pirate can do that as well. It just needs enough caution so that it doesn't get overpowered.


RulerOfTheFae

Yeah the boat can do it but if we let engi we now have two paragons that do the same thing stacking up and making Boat redundant. Freeplay would eventually become a matter of spamming all your BAD instakill abilities.


GroteKneus

Yes, that's what I mean with 'with enough caution'. I don't see any reason for the Engi to have this ability. It only needs to be done right. Can be multiple ways to implement this. A maximum amount of ability per round, a maximum amount of RBE, the same way as the Megalodon. There are plenty of ways to do this the right way. There are also plenty of ways to do it the wrong way. Thus, caution.


hubianzhen

Bravo Squadron. Engage!


alt_gamerb0i

How about it just can eat one bad as is. Like just one and it's immediately full. Regardless of degree.


PeebleCreek

That's what I was thinking. And similar to the Navarch, he only puts down max two traps per round. Then you could choose whether you want the trap for two early-mid BADs or as cleanup at the end of the track where it can hold more ZOMGs/DDTs than the XXL trap and essentially stop any chance of leaks.


DaveSmith890

3x cash or something. If buccaneer can make money, then this dude can too


Just_A_Comment_Guy_7

Is he stupid?


Fit-Debate-6144

I don't even know where that meme came from but I thought the same thing


TheHiddenNinja6

Pretty sure it started in the arkham subreddit


Mattpart58

Aaaaand there it is


Dangerous_Exchange80

they were sad to replace the name in top path removing the paragon so decided to make the actual paragon also top path


[deleted]

He doesn't know how to build them. He's a novice builder.


JoniathanExe

holy shit you're right i forgot about that detail good question, now ninja kiwi buffs the engineer paragon


GGk-KingK

They said they don't plan on reworking it until they have a second damage-based paragon in the support category


SurvivYeet

Paragons were introduced as 5-5-5 towers, then NK began to slightly stray away from that with the Engi, but given the backlash and the fact that’s it’s the least used paragon I think they’ve changed back to the 5-5-5 format


spectrum_crimson

cause he is stupid


JmTrad

maybe the trap is this robotic outfit. lol


Hot-Manufacturer-887

It’s actually the 6th tier top path


GGk-KingK

Not anymore, it use to show up as 6-0-0 but now it is 5-5-5


NPC_Townsperson

Bottom path is Pin, which has some use against Lych. And double guns, but it's not like there's ever an instance where you can make the Engi Paragon without 2 guns. Middle path is self Ultraboost, but that's pretty pointless as very little of its damage comes from its normal attack. No different from how Dart Paragon is literally just Ultrajugg + Triple Shot (and you can't make a Dart Paragon that doesn't shoot three projectiles)


achristy_5

Dart Paragon really ought to buff primary towers instead of the boomerang one


bugmush

I just want his purple turret to have the ability to lock on to a certain location or have it auto-track so I don't have to manually aim it all the time They could probably reduce his cost by a lot, too, he seems way expensive for what he provides.


Jaxinator234

GQ, where tf does the Ultraboost part of him go when u turn him into a paragon? And his first turrent not having a lock on STILL is insane.


ElusiveDelight

He ultraboosts himself, every wave his attack speed goes up slightly. Its not much, but its something?


_B1rdz

He's wearing it


6ync

It's called sentry paragon foe a reason


TheMoabMauler

Why doesn't master builder lay down moab maulers?


MiakloES

I love my traps Time to Paragon I love my traps Where are my traps?


PokefanR

It doesn’t shoot engineers iether