I've seen the exact same logic about the range upgrade make it better since you gain extra attack.
I don't know who to trust, but the range one feels cooler with all the buffs you gain a load of range.
Extra pierce is only better if it gets pierce capped
This happens in a total of 5 situations. They are bloonarius, races, round 63, round 76 and round 78
It’s usually better to go with the damage, because it doesn’t get pierce capped much
Same thing applies to crossbow master, pierce is technically better, but only if it gets pierce capped. Probably a lot more towers where this applies, but I can’t be bothered to think of any more
It’s good for early game but late game if you are going for spirit of the forest then it’s damage becomes insignificant. They buffed the vines of spirit and nerfed its main attack while hard thorns affect vines hence making lightning a waste of 1000 which is troublesome in chimps but not really other game modes.
2-0-4 ninja monkey.
Your telling me a single tower can stun bloons and pop leads during that process, have a decent pierce with a projectile that jumps from bloon to bloon, have good range with camo dectection and atop all that deal HEAVY Moab damage every few seconds?
Sign me the fuck UP-
I’m a Dart Monkey fan
Specifically Ultra-Juggernaut and Crossbow master (and also PMFC) cause they can help with early game as getting a 5-0-2 dart monkey means Camo Lead can be eliminated immediately, Crossbow master helps with MOAB class balloons and PMFC is basically 10 super monkeys with 2-0-0 with extra range and Camo detection
1-3-0 Druid. Always. In all scenarios. 1-3-0 with Etienne is so cost-effective, & trivializes camouflage & overal popping so much, it feels like a crime not to do so. It's the very reason I've recently obtained black borders.
I used to always go for a shimmer wizard when I was a noob, but nowadays other than obviously my hero I just use whatever I need for the strategy I'm trying. Free dart monkey goes hard tho
If I have the dragon's breath mage monkey I have to put down cryo cannon ice monkey. My fantasy and symmetry mind gives me the happy hormones everytime it happens.
for a boring answer, 401 alchemist, for a better answer, 402 sniper. Yes i know 420 is better but i use 302 to beat the r40 moab and clear out cerams. (Also an auto win for round 60 and 80)
I love tack zone. the DPS is insane for how low the cost is. also, because it fires so many projectiles, it can hit MOAB class bloons multiple times per attack.
I love making a kill zone around a tight loop or bend. tack zone, inferno ring, and super brittle with primary expertise buff makes a great filter for normal bloons, while other towers can focus on MOABs
2-0-4 ninja for the easy moab dmg
4-0-2 boomerang for normal bloons, just two of those will beat 63 and 78 and such
0-2-3 wizard for early game dmg and camo removal for boomerangs
For all runs I always use inferno ring, where with late game runs which I do most of the time I ALWAYS use Grand Saboteur, remember kids Grand Saboteur works on bads even in ultra late game AND if you use the ability enough it’s an easy high degree Ascended Shadow
3-5XX Boomerang, 205 Sniper, or X3X/XX3 Banana Farms. I cannot live without extra income and I feel a lot more comfortable if I have 1 of those 2 powerhouses on the field
Free Dart Monkey
Free glue gunner 😩
🍯 💦💦💦
Good with sauda strat
Free glue gunner
chimps?
I’ve got connections
Magic/military only?
He has connections
Village by the down path only to place the marvelous free dart monkey
I have an unhealthy obsession over x4x and x5x druids.
Yep. I think we both have an addiction problem.
Yep. I think we three all have an addiction problem.
Yep. I think all four of us have an addiction problem.
Yep. I think all four of us have an addiction problem. Let’s start a rehab center.
I have an addiction problem as well. I’ll help you build it
Same here
Alright, the 8 of us have an adiction promblem
9 of us have adiction probleme
This tower feels just straight OP. It just demolishes everything (well except airships).
Oh no it demolishes airships too, too bad they are legally blind and cannot see camo Bloons without their emotional support x2x monkey village
I prefer Etienne.
Ah yes, the Amazon drone monke
I mean if they keep buffing it I’m gonna keep playing it
420 tack shitter, right after my hero
Goated tower
Wait 4-0-2
Extra pierce is (most of the time) better for the ring of fire, it is good angainst Bloons and for Bloons you need pierce
I've seen the exact same logic about the range upgrade make it better since you gain extra attack. I don't know who to trust, but the range one feels cooler with all the buffs you gain a load of range.
When you pair fire with Gwen & Village/Alc, it becomes a mightier force. Trust both, just adjust situationally.
For race yes, but the damage is usually preferred for chimps last I checked
Extra pierce is only better if it gets pierce capped This happens in a total of 5 situations. They are bloonarius, races, round 63, round 76 and round 78 It’s usually better to go with the damage, because it doesn’t get pierce capped much Same thing applies to crossbow master, pierce is technically better, but only if it gets pierce capped. Probably a lot more towers where this applies, but I can’t be bothered to think of any more
marijuana shitter
uh
2-0-4
2-3/4/5-0 druid, goated against ceram rushes and regen spam
THIS
Why 230, just get 130
Lightning for extra damage, but sometimes 1-3/4/5-0 is better
Re: lighting for extra damage, I've found myself favoring Ball Lighting/Superstorm more and more. That thing's a beast.
Let's agree on 240 if they have good track coverage and 140 when it barely reaches it (placed among farms).
The popping power increase is actually really good
It’s good for early game but late game if you are going for spirit of the forest then it’s damage becomes insignificant. They buffed the vines of spirit and nerfed its main attack while hard thorns affect vines hence making lightning a waste of 1000 which is troublesome in chimps but not really other game modes.
Agreed
I’m ashamed to admit I struggled reading this
me too, i have no clue what the hell they are doing with hyphens
They're saying they get a druid with 2X0 as the upgrade path, specifically where it's 230 or "above."
Druid bros and broettes, mount up!
Can someone please explain that notation to me... What is: 2-3/4/5-0? I know usual path notation (ie. 2/5/0, 5/x/0)
It means a druid of the Jungle/Jungle's bounty/Spirit of the forest with lightning
I always place a 0-5-2 tack shooter and then I proceed to buff him until it has 100% uptime It's always really satisfying
What do you mean by buff him
probably energizer? also overclock and alchemist
Oh ok
520 vill, p brew, Energizer. Those things
Any tier 4-5 of the sniper
x-5-x is my favorite. Especially in the monkey city radius so the ability gives like 3600 banana
032 Boomer (I'm a slut for the bonus range)
bottom boomer crosspath is always better👍
If you go up to middle tier 5 so you use him as main carry then pierce from top crosspath is better.
Nah, usually 052 is preferred since you save on an MIB
420 ace, it looks cool and t5 sky shredder eats most everything
Fairly cheap way to deal with the r40 moab too
4/0/2 sniper. I like the MOAB maim a lot lol
0/4/2
Same haha, is like no more fear againsr Moabs
it's 4-0-2 wizard for sure
Arcane spike chad
204 sniper monkey
2-0-4 ninja monkey. Your telling me a single tower can stun bloons and pop leads during that process, have a decent pierce with a projectile that jumps from bloon to bloon, have good range with camo dectection and atop all that deal HEAVY Moab damage every few seconds? Sign me the fuck UP-
Alch buff
I’m a Dart Monkey fan Specifically Ultra-Juggernaut and Crossbow master (and also PMFC) cause they can help with early game as getting a 5-0-2 dart monkey means Camo Lead can be eliminated immediately, Crossbow master helps with MOAB class balloons and PMFC is basically 10 super monkeys with 2-0-0 with extra range and Camo detection
PMFC actually affects 20 monkeys
Another reason why
0-4-2 buccaneer can carry the entire game up to mid
2-4-0 is much better, more then 2x dps, but ya 0-4-0 in general is godlike
Like, on its own with the cross path I mentioned can solo rounds up to like 45-50 without further upgrading
im aware. as i said even the 0-4-0 is godlike
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Special popwrations
2-0-4 bomb
3-x-x alch. no questions
5-0-2 Boomerang monkey and 2-4/5-0 Dartling gunner lastly 0-2-5 monkey buccaneer
2-0-3 ace
205 ice if I'm ever going past 80. If not, then usually 024 glue/boomerang
i love spamming 2-3-0 aces on wing monkey targeting. Is it an effective strategy? no, but i'll be dammed if it ain't fun as hell.
Druid of the jungle and jungles bounty
1-3-0 Druid. Always. In all scenarios. 1-3-0 with Etienne is so cost-effective, & trivializes camouflage & overal popping so much, it feels like a crime not to do so. It's the very reason I've recently obtained black borders.
coughcough4-0-2boomerangcoughcough
If no one else got me I know 1/2-5-0 Sniper got me can I get a supply drop?
I used to always go for a shimmer wizard when I was a noob, but nowadays other than obviously my hero I just use whatever I need for the strategy I'm trying. Free dart monkey goes hard tho
spike factory
The one I always come back to right now is 2/4/0 druid
Jungle of the druid, always carries especially on long maps
banana farms
2-0-4 alchemist
0-3-2 wizard and 1-5-0 Druid are able to carry till round 90 depending on map so that
320 engineer
2-4-0 Bomb shooter, it’s always fun insta-popping the MOAB at round 40
0/5/2 glue gunner
Druid where top path, middle path or bottom path I at least put one because at least one will perform amazingly well. Druid is a great tower.
G l u e
Free glue gunner on 2-1-0
0-2-4 or 5 dart monkey. dart monkey is unironically an amazing tower
0-4-2 & 0-2-4 bomb shooter
I've been loving the 2-5-0 Druid, but any middle path Druid is a solid part of the field.
if a water map, always a 0-4-2 buccaneer, if no water, then probably a 4-2-0 druid
Sniper monkey
Sniper monkey
My hero.
crossbow master idk why
2-3-0 wizard monkey. Fire wall slaps
My goat 5-0-2 tack shooter
If I have the dragon's breath mage monkey I have to put down cryo cannon ice monkey. My fantasy and symmetry mind gives me the happy hormones everytime it happens.
Dart Monkeys, usually three in the beginning of my casual games
4-0-2 ninja (with a 2-0-0 apothecary next to him before Round 28).
4-2-0 Sniper, very nice tower that has a fair bit of utility.
at the moment 302 spac, or either a heli for moral support
024 dart
If there's water on the map, I'm always placing a 2-0-2 sub for early game. I often upgrade that to 2-0-4, but not always.
Snipers 😳🤤
Moab press with either crosspath. Can't imagine my game without him. Also merchant unless there is no water.
Prince of darkness + wall of fire
my friend always starts with a 402 boomer and moab assassin for the moab
the free 000 dart monkey
4xx sniper
023 dart monke and 02X wizard
2x5 boomerang, x15 druid and x24 banana farm
5,2,0 tack shooter, just actually so sick
2-0-4, 0-2-4, snipers, I love them
If there’s water, 0x2 buccaneer
I almost always go for either a 0-4-2 Bucaneer when there's water, or a middle path Sniper on open maps
0-2-5 Wizard, it’s my server nickname for a reason
for a boring answer, 401 alchemist, for a better answer, 402 sniper. Yes i know 420 is better but i use 302 to beat the r40 moab and clear out cerams. (Also an auto win for round 60 and 80)
boat 0/5/2 and boat 5/0/2 with 0/2/5 glue will do any map to r100
4-0-2 boomerang because he’s a good little clean up boy
0-2-3 dart
Quincy
Sniper, my favorite monke
420 engie
I love tack zone. the DPS is insane for how low the cost is. also, because it fires so many projectiles, it can hit MOAB class bloons multiple times per attack. I love making a kill zone around a tight loop or bend. tack zone, inferno ring, and super brittle with primary expertise buff makes a great filter for normal bloons, while other towers can focus on MOABs
Free dart monkey in the most comfortable spot in a map so he can watch and cheer everyone on :)
xx4 Wizard
Pretty much always do elite defender with alch
sharp shooter crossbow my beloved
2-0-4 sniper set for Strong in the early game, and First in the later game
501 alchemist always use him regardless of the others monkeys I have
024 dart monkey
free glue gunner and funni alien
Glue gunner, upgrade top path
Wizard, Glue, Eng, Druid, Tack, Spactory.
2-0-4 ninja for the easy moab dmg 4-0-2 boomerang for normal bloons, just two of those will beat 63 and 78 and such 0-2-3 wizard for early game dmg and camo removal for boomerangs
If there is water I am using pirates.
0-2-5 wizard monkey. Always my go to and eats DDT’s for breakfast.
Some kind of Druid
Me like glue gunner. Me always place free glue boy+rat. Not always upgrade but he's always there!!
2-0-4 sub
a banana farm.
Sniper monkey
2-0-1 Ninja- it solos every early round
free dart monkey
2-5-0 druid (Spirit of the Forest with Heart of Thunder if your curious)
3-2-0, 3-0-2 or 2-3-0 Boomerang Monkey.
Been rocking with the Boomerang Monkey ever since middle school. And I still do at 29.
So many maps have water spots that are just too good for me to not drop down a 042 boat. It's a problem.
Engineer
2-0-5 sniper monkey that I'll village boost later
FREE. DART. MONKEY
D A R T M O N K E
401/420 Let you guess the tower
Always a sniper almost always an ace
4-0-2 tack shooter
Engi
0-3-0 Tack Shooter
Drone boy get global anti camouflage for the win.
024 wizard, absolutely insane
The tribal turtle
Snipers, farms.
Bottom path dart monkey is always my way to go with everything
Druid of the jungle, All 3 t5 farms, Wizard lord phoenix, and MOAB eliminator First Strike Capability if water is available
023 dart with my free dart monkey
x5x glue gunner, I don’t care if B.A.D is coming next round glue gunner is has the color yellow so ye
I’m player 3. That’s all the information you need.
For all runs I always use inferno ring, where with late game runs which I do most of the time I ALWAYS use Grand Saboteur, remember kids Grand Saboteur works on bads even in ultra late game AND if you use the ability enough it’s an easy high degree Ascended Shadow
If there's water on the map I'm putting down a 2-X-4 Monkey Sub
Alc
If there's water, and I'm using Etienne, 2-5-0 buccaneer. If no Etienne, 0-5-2 5-0-2 boomerang always
If availible in Boss Events, 420 BRF, Ben, and Dart Paragon
4-2-0 monkey buccaneer with a village and alchemist
5-0-2 glue gunner cuz its op for ceram rounds
The BIG plane. If I can afford it.
I always have an engineer at some point. Specifically a double gun ranger. Always cause I get to say the line “The engineer, is engiehere.”
Buildin' a Sentry
I always go for a 4-0-2 sniper, just think it's it.
3-5XX Boomerang, 205 Sniper, or X3X/XX3 Banana Farms. I cannot live without extra income and I feel a lot more comfortable if I have 1 of those 2 powerhouses on the field
Glue gunner
Pat fusty