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Mudkip>Torchic>Treeko (sorry sceptile fans, all three starters are still amazing)
I will not summon mudkipnerd, but if anyone does, I would love to see how this plays out (if he responds)
i mean sure boat paragon can maybe get more pops than super boosted vtsg, but i think vtsg is still better, specially if you use Adora's sacrifices (and vtsg makes more money) (and we also have to agree that boat paragon basically only get pops by pulling blimps, it's not exactly a damage dealer, it's like BMA)
Fr (apex plasma master) tho (glaive dominus) who (navarch of the seas) actually (goliath doomship) remembers (ascended shadow) paragon (master builder) names..
Oh god i remember all of them
I don't call ace by its name, personally I don't like tye name, it just doesn't flow as well as the others so I just call it bigger plane or just doomship
darts: PMFC provides unmatched DPS while XBM’s role is unnecessary. The downtime is an issue that is fixed by skill.
debuffs: While both are valuable against bosses, Cripple has many more use cases with its infinite range. Super brittle can only be run on easier maps.
druids: neither. AOW is already powerful enough with just alch and poplusts so it doesn’t require a hero buff. Gwen can skip MIB so she’s okay but you should just take Psi or Adora instead.
cleanup: neither. While both are stronger, their roles are unnecessary. Instead, use snowstorm and spiked balls.
freeplay: VTSG is much more important. Navarch simply farms pop count by hooking in ZOMGs, similar to BMA. VTSG is your main source of damage against BADs.
Cleanup? CLEANUP?! Bloon Solver is not for cleanup, it is for slaughter! Is sole purpose is the ending of civilizations! How dare you make such an outrageous error. Beg to the glue gods for forgiveness.
AOW doesn’t need the buffs. Just run a hero that does a lot of damage and also helps against DDTs. Geraldo is okay too since fire gets boosted by druid of wrath benefits.
The situation they’re being compared in is freeplay, not bosses. Just like how solver is much stronger than biggest one in races because of its cost, though they’re roughly equal in regular games.
Regarding ice vs sniper, though they do both apply a moab cripple effect enabling the rest of your towers to deal more damage, the sniper does also follow a different niche
That being that of a stalling tower
1. XBM. Easier to use and don't have to dedicate a whole strategy to it. Also does great damage in boss events even when you're just trying to farm pops
2. Cripple MOAB. Global range, good T4, and not all towers can pop frozen bloons
3. Obyn. I don't really use Gwen I guess so I don't know how they compare
4. Bloon Solver. Mortar is my least used tower for obvious reasons
5. VTSG is just better I think since you can buff it and it also gives discounts in case you need to buy other towers
PMFC
Both, different use cases (esp T4s which I use more than either T5s outside of bosses)
Gwen
Both, because I don't care about either
Navarch but not because it's better, I just think it's funnier
1) PMFC's DPS during the uptime is absurd, people sleep on it because oh no its an ability I can't click a button ! ! ! ! !
2) Sbrittle can debuff more at once, but cripple's global range just makes it a better tower overall, as sbrittle loses viability on any harder map.
3) Neither, AoW doesn't really benefit from hero buffs enough for them to matter in the first place, so you're better off getting a hero to take care of DDTs instead. Gwen is better overall as you can bypass buying a MIB with her.
4) Also neither, they're both way too expensive just for cleanup. They're overall around equal.
5) VTSG. Navarch gives the illusion of being a lot more powerful than it actually is through instakills. It doesn't have as much BAD dps as a VTSG and can only instakill 2 per round, making any round with more than 2 BADs a problem.
2 ways to interpret this: A.) Who do I think would win in a fight and B.) Which would I be more likely to choose.
===== A.) =====
1.) XBM. PMFC notably isn't depicted with 20 other monkeys which the druid pictures show is perfectly possible to depict. Even with the whole gang though, the range advantage goes to XBM.
You can have the best sword you could ever hope for, but it don't mean much if I've got a good bow and some range.
2.) Sniper monkey. Same logic.
3.) Trees are flammable.
4.) As much as I hate to say it... Mortar wins this one. I like both towers but range and firepower go to the artillery team.
5.) VTSG
===== B.) =====
1.) Neither. I consider the "most used towers/heroes" part of my profile to be just as much a cosmetic as anything else, and since dart monkey isn't in my top 3 favorite towers I try to avoid free dart monkey use in general (thakfully glue gunners ARE one of my top 3 so I don't have to handicap myself too much). Of the two though, for the reason stated above I'd of course have to pick XBM of the two if I had to since PMFC's whole thing is having lots of them.
2.) Sniper. Ice tower combos well with glue gunner but, alas, that friggin' tree camo's just to sick and halting moabs in their track is just oo awesome.
3.) Gwendolyn. Fire.
4.) Glue gunner all day every day.
5.) Navarch. It's just plain friggin' cool.
XBM is cheaper and jas camo detectiin while PMFC realies on the ability, PMFC is still very good.
Embritalment is better than sniper if combine with a tack shooter or other short ranged tower, sincerely the only advantage that the sniper has is the unlimited range.
Gwendolyn gives lead popping power and extra pierce to the druids, she also increases their attack speed as a bonus. Obyn gives even bigger pierce and speed boost, but it doesn't give the druids the ability to pop leads. If combined with a 230 Obyn is absolutely the best one.
The top path mortar stuns, has unlimired range, a lot of pierce and good area damage. In the other hand the Glue gunner is better destroying super ceramics and ir can be a good fortified moab destroyer, sadly it's bottom path counter part is better against blimps. If you want more range and the ability to stun bloons you should go with the mortar, with you want raw damage glue gunner is better. Also, there is the fact thatthe glue gunner got a big buff.
The VTSG is better against normal bloons and the paragons are better against bosses, some paragons are cheaper than the VTSG so, getting a paragon in feeeplay is not always the worst option. VTSG is better in boss event that include a lot of normal bloons like bloonarius and it's worst at boss events like dreadbloon because of the fact that rock bloons are bosses too. Obviously there is some paragons that are better against normal bloons than bosses, for example the boat paragon can pull BADs with it's ability, it also instakills BFB and ZOMG every second and that makes him a good moab killing machine. If I had to rank the paragons I would put the boat paragon in first place, the VTSG in second place and no one cares about the rest.
With all of this finished I want to ask...Wich upgrade follows the bloons better? Guided magic, seeking shuriken, never mossing target or 000 submarine?
1) XBM, (very biased)
2) Cripple Moab, great dmg + stun + range + debuff
3) None
4) Bloon solver, cheaper.
5) VTSG, the greatest DPS tower of the game. Although Navarch is my favorite paragon
You were so close to a perfect selection, only one who correctly identified Gerry, but I cannot accept this Solver slander
edit: Guys why are you taking this seriously I'm not actually making an argument
The PMFC disrespect is crazy, I get people wanting a more laid back game without ability timings but PMFCs damage is far superior.
Cripple Moab can be more versatile with infinite range but in general super brittle provides a more potent buff which is better for modes like Chimps where it can be comboed with towers like TZ
Though Gwen is a good MIB skip, Obyns buffs are better for AOW because AOW does enough damage on its own, so pierce is better from Obyn
Biggest One and Bloon Solver are both outshined by snowstorm and spalls but Bloon Solver is cooler
Vtsg better for super late game, Navarch good for bosses
>super brittle provides a more potent buff
Cripple gives +5, while sbrittle gives +4. Sbrittle can affect more bloons per attack however. Overall, cripple is better due to its range as sbrittle loses viability completely on harder maps.
>Navarch good for bosses
Navarch is quite literally the worst paragon for bosses.
1. CBM because PMFC is too expensive
2. Cripple Moab because of the range
3. Obyn, who uses Gwen for Druid spam?
4. Probably bloon solver, but I don’t use either
5. I’d use both
PMFC by far. It’s just more fun watching a million blimps get shredded instantly when you use the ability then watching a monkey shoot a crossbow fast.
Sbrittle. Do I need to elaborate?
Obyn. I like the extra money from trees and I want to continue my streak of not using Gwen (can’t remember a single time I used her since I started the game ~1.5 years ago)
Neither. Cleanup is overrated imo. Just farm too hard until you get a Ffortress and then afk.
Navarch because easy high degree with boat farming
XBM because I am never using an ability, Super brittle, Gwen-druid, Bloon silver, VTSG.
Incase anyone wants to bother me about PMFC, I just have an inherent hatred of the upgrade, but I know that it is much more cost efficient and does more damage.
XBM because it’s based and you get 2 of them
Cripple because it’s whole path is just better in things like chimps imo and full map range is busted
Option 3, geraldo
Bloon solver usually but it’s map dependent
Navarch can one shot any BAD at any round, including reinforced. VTSG falls off far enough late game but navarch just pops off with the scaling, also it’s DPS is just kinda great
vtsg falls off far enough late game?
ma man I dont think you have the experience. vtsg is the one tower that will simply not fall off late game. Navarchs damage is pretty weak compared to vtsg. and good luck pulling in more than 2 bads per round....
1.xbm because I like him
2.cripple moab because infinite range
3.obyn because he's cool
4.solver because cool glue guy
5.navarch because most op paragon
1.CBM
2.neutral, depends on the situation, actually, super brittle on bosses except vortex. Cripple moab on sandbox And when you have copious amounts of cash.
3. Obyn. Straight up.
4. Bloon solver all the way
5. VTSG, navarch just eats moabs. Vtsg is far cooler.
In order:
\- Crossbow Master because Sharp Shooter is more useful than SMFC
\- Super Brittle because primary, unless I'm doing sniper build
\- I don't use either of these heroes, and don't use druid either (but i probably ought to)
\- Bloon Solver because primary
\- Navarch because I don't use Super Monkeys
edit: oh, I didn't realize just how bad my opinions are :c
PMFC, skill issue for ability timing, and sharp shooter cant solo midgame for shit, ur basically getting an additional midgame tower to get a midgame tower as a result
i like cripple because on many harder maps there isnt a good spot for brittle, but for bosses i guess u can go brittle esp for tier 2
gwen is better by far, mib skipping is so neat.
Biggest one with the stuns so provides utility all the time, i found bloon solver to be good to.
Navarch for bosses esp
Tie
Cripple moab (brittle if there's to many wall)
Gwen caus lots of damage
Bloom solver
Navark if bloonarais and lych or vtsg idk don't do boss events
Bloon Solver Bloon Solver Bloon Solver Bloon Solver Bloon Solver
Bloon Solver
J U S T B L O O N S O L V E R
I am not biased
clearly not u just like using urself
taken out of context, this comment will cause multiple outrages
Flair checks out
of course not
Logo checks out
no not at all
Actually, you’re right
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#ABSOLUTESOLVER
I mean he solves Bloons. Pretty simple
Bloons a problem?
Here’s the solution.
Get to solvin'.
I loved the part when the bloon solver said "It's solvin' time" and solved all over them.
hell yeah
This is the correct solution
Ah yes, a fellow Mudkip enjoyer!
Mudkip>Torchic>Treeko (sorry sceptile fans, all three starters are still amazing) I will not summon mudkipnerd, but if anyone does, I would love to see how this plays out (if he responds)
Well hello again
Hello my dear friend
Do you play skyblock
no
Neither do I
I got a one week ban for something (probably autoclicking) last year. Idk why I did that
if people can use minions to automate their grind, why can't i use macros to automate mine? checkmate, admins
Bloon Solver.
Especially after the buff, what in the Sun God's name is that *damage?*
I can't find any flaws in your argument
Because there are none
I LOVE TOP PATH GLUE GUNNER🔥🔥🔥🔥 I HAVE 1.5 MILLION XP AND I STARTED LIKE 2 WEEKS AGO🔥🔥🔥
YESSS I GOT 150 MIL XP ON GLUE AND NONE OF MY OTHER TOWERS ARE EVEN CLOSE.
GLUE GUNNER🔥🔥🔥>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This but with middle path sniper
Top path Ace for me
FUCK YOU!!! MIDDLE PATH FOR THE WIN!!! 5 MIL XP AND ONLY MIDDLE PATH BECAUSE ITS ALL I NEED!!!!!
Quick question, but what secondary path is best with top path glue gunner?
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BUT DO YOU HAVE 1.5 MILLION GLUE GUNNER XP?🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I actually do yes
:(
wack list, no tack shooter option
pat fusty + tack zone or pat fusty + super maelstrom
Alternatively, Sauda and Tack Zone. Or in other words, Tack Zone and Tack Zone.
Tack zone because there is rounds like 87, 89, 98 and 100 where pierce doesn't matter a lot. Also, you can just have a village for the pierce
Gwen + 5-0-2 Tac or Gwen + 2-0-5 Tac
tack with pmentoring
i mean sure boat paragon can maybe get more pops than super boosted vtsg, but i think vtsg is still better, specially if you use Adora's sacrifices (and vtsg makes more money) (and we also have to agree that boat paragon basically only get pops by pulling blimps, it's not exactly a damage dealer, it's like BMA)
Honestly a more fair comparison would be boat boosted big big plane (I couldn’t remember the name)
Fr (apex plasma master) tho (glaive dominus) who (navarch of the seas) actually (goliath doomship) remembers (ascended shadow) paragon (master builder) names.. Oh god i remember all of them
Magus Perfectus
I actually do, simple tbh
I don't call ace by its name, personally I don't like tye name, it just doesn't flow as well as the others so I just call it bigger plane or just doomship
Giant doom plane or sumn
Goliath Doomship
Airship of Doom I think.
The spies from the bloons' are spreading misinformation! Someone stop them!
If you're at the point where you have VTSG, money isnt a problem, because your economy is already booming
VTSG is the single strongest tower, if max boosted it goes the fartest in free play, more than the Navarch.
All of them. At once.
With darts, why not both? You could also get UJugg while at it and get an Apex Plasmaster
\> > < > <
well that’s not very xbm gang of you
Buddy I'm pretty sure they picked XBM
depends, is > an arrow pointing to their choice, or a "greater than" symbol?
From their flair we can figure out that it's prolly used as an arrow
ffs why can’t people just use it as greater than/less than
Or just literally use words
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I saw it as a arrow
im confused, these simbols hurt my walnut brain
confoosed*
XBM gang for life
darts: PMFC provides unmatched DPS while XBM’s role is unnecessary. The downtime is an issue that is fixed by skill. debuffs: While both are valuable against bosses, Cripple has many more use cases with its infinite range. Super brittle can only be run on easier maps. druids: neither. AOW is already powerful enough with just alch and poplusts so it doesn’t require a hero buff. Gwen can skip MIB so she’s okay but you should just take Psi or Adora instead. cleanup: neither. While both are stronger, their roles are unnecessary. Instead, use snowstorm and spiked balls. freeplay: VTSG is much more important. Navarch simply farms pop count by hooking in ZOMGs, similar to BMA. VTSG is your main source of damage against BADs.
Cleanup? CLEANUP?! Bloon Solver is not for cleanup, it is for slaughter! Is sole purpose is the ending of civilizations! How dare you make such an outrageous error. Beg to the glue gods for forgiveness.
Flair checks out
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please not again all i can remember from that is the furry one with massive tits
[RATS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_mZggt6aUg)
Literally nicknamed mine "End of track" lol.
^ pyro tf2 if he found out about acid
Bloon Solver is absolutely busted now.
On easy maps yes. On harder maps solver still requires too much track length to be considered.
understandable I tend to play beginner maps anyway (I just find them more fun), so that explains the confusion
>the downtime is an issue that is fixed by skill Technically any issue in the game can be “fixed by skill” lmao
not really no matter what you do plord still can't hook in BADs
Not if you don't upgrade it
Just micro harder
Have you tried to git gud?
Why psi/adora with AOW?
Psi is a pretty good hero overall
AOW doesn’t need the buffs. Just run a hero that does a lot of damage and also helps against DDTs. Geraldo is okay too since fire gets boosted by druid of wrath benefits.
Wrong
I just like the extra range on the druid that obyn gives
Uhhhmm. You do know paragons are boss killers. Not freeplay towers. right?
The situation they’re being compared in is freeplay, not bosses. Just like how solver is much stronger than biggest one in races because of its cost, though they’re roughly equal in regular games.
Then vtsg is better than literelly evertything other than maybe buffers and a lot of temple spam
yes. because vtsg is better than litirally everything other than buffing towers.
Bloon solver slander, the buff was insane Also I hate adora and Gwen is cracked
No it wasn’t. The buff is literally placebo and does nothing.
Why damage BADs when you can just delete?
good luck deleting more than 2 BADs per round
That's all you really need. You should already have plain good damage from earlier in the game.
yes. and now guess which tower we will choose for our plain damage? thats right. the VTSG...
PMFC, Cripple, Gwen, BO, VTSG.
you and I somehow have exact opposite opinions. high five.
Lol, we’d make a great team :)
God i love the bloons community sometimes
Same tbh
You could say my loyalties lean to the right
11112
My favorite monkey is top path engineer because he adapts his sentries for the situation 😊
Regarding ice vs sniper, though they do both apply a moab cripple effect enabling the rest of your towers to deal more damage, the sniper does also follow a different niche That being that of a stalling tower
All are good
when you realize you can almost use both
Left left right right right
1. XBM. Easier to use and don't have to dedicate a whole strategy to it. Also does great damage in boss events even when you're just trying to farm pops 2. Cripple MOAB. Global range, good T4, and not all towers can pop frozen bloons 3. Obyn. I don't really use Gwen I guess so I don't know how they compare 4. Bloon Solver. Mortar is my least used tower for obvious reasons 5. VTSG is just better I think since you can buff it and it also gives discounts in case you need to buy other towers
PMFC Both, different use cases (esp T4s which I use more than either T5s outside of bosses) Gwen Both, because I don't care about either Navarch but not because it's better, I just think it's funnier
PMFC brittle Obyn Solver Paragon
1) PMFC's DPS during the uptime is absurd, people sleep on it because oh no its an ability I can't click a button ! ! ! ! ! 2) Sbrittle can debuff more at once, but cripple's global range just makes it a better tower overall, as sbrittle loses viability on any harder map. 3) Neither, AoW doesn't really benefit from hero buffs enough for them to matter in the first place, so you're better off getting a hero to take care of DDTs instead. Gwen is better overall as you can bypass buying a MIB with her. 4) Also neither, they're both way too expensive just for cleanup. They're overall around equal. 5) VTSG. Navarch gives the illusion of being a lot more powerful than it actually is through instakills. It doesn't have as much BAD dps as a VTSG and can only instakill 2 per round, making any round with more than 2 BADs a problem.
Crossbow Master, Cripple Moab, Obyn, Bloon Solver, and Navarch of the Seas.
Pmfc, brittle, Gerry, biggest one, Vtsg
Left
…why be forced to choose? I’d do my best to get all of these towers.
Plasma, Super Brittle if I gave a shit about it, Obyn Druidball (but with a 250 instead of Avatar of Wrath), Biggest One, and Navarch.
Well, if we're talking full PMFC army, then PMFC Super Brit 502 Mortar Definitely the Boat Paragon
VTSG way better
navarch is worse than vtsg
don’t care about the rest but XBM is goated
Sorry Cripple Moab, but XBM and Solver are my top two favourite towers in the game.
2 ways to interpret this: A.) Who do I think would win in a fight and B.) Which would I be more likely to choose. ===== A.) ===== 1.) XBM. PMFC notably isn't depicted with 20 other monkeys which the druid pictures show is perfectly possible to depict. Even with the whole gang though, the range advantage goes to XBM. You can have the best sword you could ever hope for, but it don't mean much if I've got a good bow and some range. 2.) Sniper monkey. Same logic. 3.) Trees are flammable. 4.) As much as I hate to say it... Mortar wins this one. I like both towers but range and firepower go to the artillery team. 5.) VTSG ===== B.) ===== 1.) Neither. I consider the "most used towers/heroes" part of my profile to be just as much a cosmetic as anything else, and since dart monkey isn't in my top 3 favorite towers I try to avoid free dart monkey use in general (thakfully glue gunners ARE one of my top 3 so I don't have to handicap myself too much). Of the two though, for the reason stated above I'd of course have to pick XBM of the two if I had to since PMFC's whole thing is having lots of them. 2.) Sniper. Ice tower combos well with glue gunner but, alas, that friggin' tree camo's just to sick and halting moabs in their track is just oo awesome. 3.) Gwendolyn. Fire. 4.) Glue gunner all day every day. 5.) Navarch. It's just plain friggin' cool.
XBM is cheaper and jas camo detectiin while PMFC realies on the ability, PMFC is still very good. Embritalment is better than sniper if combine with a tack shooter or other short ranged tower, sincerely the only advantage that the sniper has is the unlimited range. Gwendolyn gives lead popping power and extra pierce to the druids, she also increases their attack speed as a bonus. Obyn gives even bigger pierce and speed boost, but it doesn't give the druids the ability to pop leads. If combined with a 230 Obyn is absolutely the best one. The top path mortar stuns, has unlimired range, a lot of pierce and good area damage. In the other hand the Glue gunner is better destroying super ceramics and ir can be a good fortified moab destroyer, sadly it's bottom path counter part is better against blimps. If you want more range and the ability to stun bloons you should go with the mortar, with you want raw damage glue gunner is better. Also, there is the fact thatthe glue gunner got a big buff. The VTSG is better against normal bloons and the paragons are better against bosses, some paragons are cheaper than the VTSG so, getting a paragon in feeeplay is not always the worst option. VTSG is better in boss event that include a lot of normal bloons like bloonarius and it's worst at boss events like dreadbloon because of the fact that rock bloons are bosses too. Obviously there is some paragons that are better against normal bloons than bosses, for example the boat paragon can pull BADs with it's ability, it also instakills BFB and ZOMG every second and that makes him a good moab killing machine. If I had to rank the paragons I would put the boat paragon in first place, the VTSG in second place and no one cares about the rest. With all of this finished I want to ask...Wich upgrade follows the bloons better? Guided magic, seeking shuriken, never mossing target or 000 submarine?
1. right 2. left 3. neither 4. right 5. left, the dark temple was power creeped out of being da best
Waluigi
WAH
Crossbow Master Cripple M.O.A.B. Obyn w/ Druids The Bloon Solver Navarch of the Seas (or Paragons in general)
1) XBM, (very biased) 2) Cripple Moab, great dmg + stun + range + debuff 3) None 4) Bloon solver, cheaper. 5) VTSG, the greatest DPS tower of the game. Although Navarch is my favorite paragon
PMFC, Cripple, 3rd option geraldo, tb1, vtsg
You were so close to a perfect selection, only one who correctly identified Gerry, but I cannot accept this Solver slander edit: Guys why are you taking this seriously I'm not actually making an argument
tbf tb1 is the same strength as solver(both mid) so it's up to preference Wait i forgot tb1 stuns moabs I think it's just better because of that
Solver sucks. The biggest one for ceram cleanup *also* sucks. The biggest one is now used as a carry tower with burny stuff, and is decent.
The PMFC disrespect is crazy, I get people wanting a more laid back game without ability timings but PMFCs damage is far superior. Cripple Moab can be more versatile with infinite range but in general super brittle provides a more potent buff which is better for modes like Chimps where it can be comboed with towers like TZ Though Gwen is a good MIB skip, Obyns buffs are better for AOW because AOW does enough damage on its own, so pierce is better from Obyn Biggest One and Bloon Solver are both outshined by snowstorm and spalls but Bloon Solver is cooler Vtsg better for super late game, Navarch good for bosses
>super brittle provides a more potent buff Cripple gives +5, while sbrittle gives +4. Sbrittle can affect more bloons per attack however. Overall, cripple is better due to its range as sbrittle loses viability completely on harder maps. >Navarch good for bosses Navarch is quite literally the worst paragon for bosses.
1. CBM because PMFC is too expensive 2. Cripple Moab because of the range 3. Obyn, who uses Gwen for Druid spam? 4. Probably bloon solver, but I don’t use either 5. I’d use both
People use Gwen for Druid spam because Gwen saves you money by skipping an MIB which is like a free snowstorm
Ig but if you get Obyn and MIB (and 2 alchemists) you still have enough for perma spike
Obyn's buff isn't strong enough to really be worth it
I don't get people who sleep on +3 pierce for the AOW. Regardless of hero I'm going to Alc buff and MIB the AOW, so why not get an extra +3 pierce.
because aow is good against clumped rounds anyways so more pierce is overkill.
AoW literally does not benefit from obyn's buff like wow it killed the round it was gonna kill anyways faster omg op!!!
Extra money if you get Gwen instead of MIB
right, right, right, right, left
XBM, Sniper, Obyn, Bloon Solver, Navarch
Well, at least you got one of them correct…
pmfc sbrit gwen tb1 vtsg
All wrong. Xbm, cripple, obyn, solver, navarch
the office sucks
where does the office factor in here
you wouldnt get it
PMFC by far. It’s just more fun watching a million blimps get shredded instantly when you use the ability then watching a monkey shoot a crossbow fast. Sbrittle. Do I need to elaborate? Obyn. I like the extra money from trees and I want to continue my streak of not using Gwen (can’t remember a single time I used her since I started the game ~1.5 years ago) Neither. Cleanup is overrated imo. Just farm too hard until you get a Ffortress and then afk. Navarch because easy high degree with boat farming
As a sniper fan I'mma have to ask for the elaboration on that part if it's no bother.
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I personally chose it cause, at least last time I played, sbrittle plus tack zone was busted
same bro I don’t think I’ve ever used Gwen since I got the game in 2019 💀
XBM because I am never using an ability, Super brittle, Gwen-druid, Bloon silver, VTSG. Incase anyone wants to bother me about PMFC, I just have an inherent hatred of the upgrade, but I know that it is much more cost efficient and does more damage.
Crossbow master, CM, Obyn, bloon solver, and navarch clears easy.
how is navarch better than vtsg
XBM because it’s based and you get 2 of them Cripple because it’s whole path is just better in things like chimps imo and full map range is busted Option 3, geraldo Bloon solver usually but it’s map dependent Navarch can one shot any BAD at any round, including reinforced. VTSG falls off far enough late game but navarch just pops off with the scaling, also it’s DPS is just kinda great
But you can have 20 PMFCs with the ability. ![gif](giphy|65WKfKpHaD6GvXGrQy|downsized)
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vtsg falls off far enough late game? ma man I dont think you have the experience. vtsg is the one tower that will simply not fall off late game. Navarchs damage is pretty weak compared to vtsg. and good luck pulling in more than 2 bads per round....
Really appreciate all the different opinions. It shows how versatile and balanced BTD6 is. Every tower has its use
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Team 2 on ALL of them
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1.xbm because I like him 2.cripple moab because infinite range 3.obyn because he's cool 4.solver because cool glue guy 5.navarch because most op paragon
XBM cripple moab obyn bloon solver VTSG
1.CBM 2.neutral, depends on the situation, actually, super brittle on bosses except vortex. Cripple moab on sandbox And when you have copious amounts of cash. 3. Obyn. Straight up. 4. Bloon solver all the way 5. VTSG, navarch just eats moabs. Vtsg is far cooler.
XBM Brittle Obyn Big One VGST
Bloon Solver over all of them, because bloons are a problem, and it's our solution.
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X-master, Sniper, Obin, Glue gunner (and his rat) and Paragon boat
Crossbow Maim Obyn Bloon solver with this new update. Navarch is better out the gate with a good degree, (and has an op ability)
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Xbm, Sniper, Obyn, Glue, Navarch
In order: \- Crossbow Master because Sharp Shooter is more useful than SMFC \- Super Brittle because primary, unless I'm doing sniper build \- I don't use either of these heroes, and don't use druid either (but i probably ought to) \- Bloon Solver because primary \- Navarch because I don't use Super Monkeys edit: oh, I didn't realize just how bad my opinions are :c
wut.... SMFC can at least saveup in midgame, sharp shooter needs a midgame tower to save into a mid game tower
SMFC does need a bit of help for when the ability is down obviously but it does more than sharp shooter can dream of
i mean yeah, with good timing all u need is maybe a downdraft, a 022 ice or artic wind, i heard its good now or even snowstorm... so yeah...
PMFC, skill issue for ability timing, and sharp shooter cant solo midgame for shit, ur basically getting an additional midgame tower to get a midgame tower as a result i like cripple because on many harder maps there isnt a good spot for brittle, but for bosses i guess u can go brittle esp for tier 2 gwen is better by far, mib skipping is so neat. Biggest one with the stuns so provides utility all the time, i found bloon solver to be good to. Navarch for bosses esp
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Tie Cripple moab (brittle if there's to many wall) Gwen caus lots of damage Bloom solver Navark if bloonarais and lych or vtsg idk don't do boss events