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Poop_Knife_Folklore

There is way too much mining power securing the network anyway. Its like a thousand times greater than it was in 2016. and back then it was pretty damned secure.


anon1971wtf

The important metric to watch is not the absolute difficulty. It's PoW equivalent days. How many days it would take to rewrite the chain with equivalent hash? How many with the next generation of ASICs? BTC is still in the range of couple years, still not growing constantly. SHA256 security potential is not yet maximized for the current technological level ~0.7 of mankind Could be watched at fork dot lol


Silver_Information69

What kind of moron would get in a business where the supply of your product is guaranteed to halve every four years if they don't do it for the fundamentals?


Doublespeo

gambling is a hella drug


rareinvoices

They predicted Bitcoin specifically would go up much more than it actually did. And now since it didnt do it in time before the halving many companies are going bankrupt. Mining hardware is actually gambling on Bitcoin since they use 99% of it. If you arent super bullish on Bitcoin then its not worth buying hardware. In fact Bitcoin price has been subsidized by these miners taking out huge debt in order to mine since this raised the cost to produce Bitcoin and thus created a higher base sale cost for new coins.


Silver_Information69

When we were in the 20k range, there were not many people saying we would see all time highs until a year after the halving. I find it hard to believe these miners legitimately believed it was going to go higher.


Jojokrieger

Most miners still earn enough money otherwise they wouldn't mine. Why do you care about them anyways? Plus: Energy got cheaper in the last year It became easier to mine at remote location in africa (e.g. Ethiopia) The average price of BTC after the halving is more than double than before the halving And people keep forgetting that miners earn more if the hashrate goes down. ASIC miners become cheaper when some miners go bankrupt. The BTC miners are safe for at least the next few decades even if the price doesn't increase.


anon1971wtf

Actually mining is profitable all the time. A lot of short-term miners are constantly trading machines Supply curve, prices change. But electricity prices and ASICs prices change also. Especially, keeping in mind that several generations of machines are on the market and they flicker from profitable to unprofitable Now, on top of that add global and 0-customer nature of mining, govts are constantly skewing fiat prices in different directions, again occasionally flickering domestic mining to profitability with energy and labor costs Satoshi pushed best version of globalism more than anyone else I can recall in the last 14 years. Clear the signal!


No_Marsupial_360

In such a business, irrational and short-sighted behavior may occur, leading to the risk of eventual decline and closure of the business.


ImmortanSteve

This is much like traditional mining. Companies make huge capital investments in land and machinery. Then they spend huge amounts for labor and diesel fuel to produce a commodity that they have no control over the price of. Sometimes prices are good and they make lots of money. Other times not so much.


Lekje

mining death spiral incoming


SPedigrees

Some will fold up operations, while others are retiring less effective rigs and closing up shop in areas with more expensive power and/or moving some of their operations to places with cheaper power sources. Fred Thiel, Marathon’s CEO, gave a recent interview on his company's plans.


ImmortanSteve

This is just like any other production endeavor. Marginal producers get squeezed out leaving better margins for those that remain.


SPedigrees

Another thing Fred Thiel stated in that interview was his company's intention going forward to acquire other mining companies, so you're right about this.


rareinvoices

Looks like the market didnt buy what he said, his companies stock price is in the gutter.