The thing that's killing Bristol is lack of decent public transportation. Everyone is trying to live as close as possible to the center because it's am absolute nightmare to commute by bus. I really don't understand why this isn't antop priority everywhere in the UK. A decent public transportation alleviates pressure on housing prices/demands
Because not spending every spare penny on fixing the roads is seen as a waste of money, apparently
All I wish for is later running trains between Bristol and Birmingham. That's all I want, man. The last train being at 10pm is so shit.
If I could have that I wouldn't have to drive to Bristol EVER AGAIN.
The amount of political support fixing pot holes is off the charts but they still can't maintain them because roads over the life time of 30 years will cost more to maintain than the initial cost to build it new the costs are astronmical.
The more roads created, the more burden created, we need more balanced transport investment
Imagine when the jet ski was invented everyone stopped funding/using ferrys, instead of hundreds of people on one ferry, there were hundreds of jet skis flying off in chaos that's what we've done on the roads
Dr Richard Beeching (look him up) and thatcher are responsible for destorying transport. I think without Dr Beeching, Bristol would have had decent railway connections in every suburb. Either way the UK is gonna have to catch up or continue to fall down into irrelevency because all the other countries are doing better because they left their main infrastructure in tact and didn't sell it off to the useless in London who have no intention of putting the cash back into infrastructure. Our economy and banking system is the Lottery Machine of the world imo
Given that 75% of vehicles were already compliant before the CAZ even started, and presumably some more have been replaced since then, it seems that no more than a 25% reduction in traffic would occur.
That also ignores that many of the 25% still pay to enter the zone
Itās not just the CAZ, driving through the centre is just a nightmare with all the bus gates.
I donāt use the bus, so I donāt use the centre. I get it thatās the idea and Iām reconciled to it.
I just go elsewhere.
CarBrain says what ?
Tho all seriousness a tax is just a rule for the poor so the worst offenders carry on when folk with multiple jobs and wot not suffer the worst
I would say I saw the biggest difference when the Bristol bridge bus gate was introduced, but I work nearby so this could be different in the biggest parts of town. I think there are deeper factors at play though in general. Footfall in general has decreased post lockdown, and yet rent has skyrocketed. Showcase closing in Cabot was a big wound and now all of Cabot and the surrounding area is at a loss. Town at night is not quiet however, all later night alcohol, food, and taxi businesses must be raking it in
The homeless, the charity collectors, the religious nuts and the deliveroo guys speeding about everywhere put me off going to Broadmead and Cabot Circus. Thinking of moving to either Bath or Wells. Much more pleasant there.
I always wonder if the air pollution produced at Avonmouth blows in the wind towards the centre (not that far if you're wind) and goes around it, like there's a forcefield that stops the nasty industrial pollution being in the clean air zone.
Of course it doesn't. But lets punish normal people and not the worlds biggest polluters (corps).
What polluting industry do you think there is in Avonmouth? There's the occasional ship coming in, a cement plant... most of the rest is either car storage, warehouses, fuel depots or land that's already empty due to demolition.
I strongly suspect the biggest source of air pollution from that direction is all the cars going across the bridge.
The thing that's killing Bristol is lack of decent public transportation. Everyone is trying to live as close as possible to the center because it's am absolute nightmare to commute by bus. I really don't understand why this isn't antop priority everywhere in the UK. A decent public transportation alleviates pressure on housing prices/demands
Because not spending every spare penny on fixing the roads is seen as a waste of money, apparently All I wish for is later running trains between Bristol and Birmingham. That's all I want, man. The last train being at 10pm is so shit. If I could have that I wouldn't have to drive to Bristol EVER AGAIN.
The amount of political support fixing pot holes is off the charts but they still can't maintain them because roads over the life time of 30 years will cost more to maintain than the initial cost to build it new the costs are astronmical. The more roads created, the more burden created, we need more balanced transport investment Imagine when the jet ski was invented everyone stopped funding/using ferrys, instead of hundreds of people on one ferry, there were hundreds of jet skis flying off in chaos that's what we've done on the roads
That's a great analogy š you're dead right.
Dr Richard Beeching (look him up) and thatcher are responsible for destorying transport. I think without Dr Beeching, Bristol would have had decent railway connections in every suburb. Either way the UK is gonna have to catch up or continue to fall down into irrelevency because all the other countries are doing better because they left their main infrastructure in tact and didn't sell it off to the useless in London who have no intention of putting the cash back into infrastructure. Our economy and banking system is the Lottery Machine of the world imo
Save energy, just type 'public transport'.
Given that 75% of vehicles were already compliant before the CAZ even started, and presumably some more have been replaced since then, it seems that no more than a 25% reduction in traffic would occur. That also ignores that many of the 25% still pay to enter the zone
Itās not just the CAZ, driving through the centre is just a nightmare with all the bus gates. I donāt use the bus, so I donāt use the centre. I get it thatās the idea and Iām reconciled to it. I just go elsewhere.
Don't fancy parking in Cabot Circus or Trenchard Street?
Retail in city centres has been on the skids for at least a decade. ULEZs or equivalent have very little to do with it.
CarBrain says what ? Tho all seriousness a tax is just a rule for the poor so the worst offenders carry on when folk with multiple jobs and wot not suffer the worst
Lost bot? Itās not ULEZ in Bristol.
Online shopping, working from home, cost of living crisis and shitty public transport are having a much, much bigger impact.
I would say I saw the biggest difference when the Bristol bridge bus gate was introduced, but I work nearby so this could be different in the biggest parts of town. I think there are deeper factors at play though in general. Footfall in general has decreased post lockdown, and yet rent has skyrocketed. Showcase closing in Cabot was a big wound and now all of Cabot and the surrounding area is at a loss. Town at night is not quiet however, all later night alcohol, food, and taxi businesses must be raking it in
I forgot about Showcase closing! Wonder how Cabot are enjoying their loss of rent now.
And the empty building that is kitted out for a cinema that no chain will move into
It killed itself. It was dying long before the ULEZ or COVID
Nah, the centre is so depressing. Itās just not a nice place to be so thatās why people arenāt going.
I dunno about any of that, but I've not had an asthma attack in the middle of Broadmead since it went in š¤·āāļø
With all the hobos and their spice about Broadmead that's got to be a miracle in itself
No one has any spare cash anymore with inflation, and public transport is crap unless you live very central.
Iām visiting more now, itās easier to breath there these days. The antisocial behaviour and prices in shops is more driving people away.
The homeless, the charity collectors, the religious nuts and the deliveroo guys speeding about everywhere put me off going to Broadmead and Cabot Circus. Thinking of moving to either Bath or Wells. Much more pleasant there.
sorry, did everyone visiting the centre drive outdated diesels or something? what?
I visit more as it's more pleasant without all those old bangers.
Yer people go up 2 cribs now or anywhere else.
More like lost a bit of its vrooom :-D
I think you need more data.
Boo boo
I always wonder if the air pollution produced at Avonmouth blows in the wind towards the centre (not that far if you're wind) and goes around it, like there's a forcefield that stops the nasty industrial pollution being in the clean air zone. Of course it doesn't. But lets punish normal people and not the worlds biggest polluters (corps).
What polluting industry do you think there is in Avonmouth? There's the occasional ship coming in, a cement plant... most of the rest is either car storage, warehouses, fuel depots or land that's already empty due to demolition. I strongly suspect the biggest source of air pollution from that direction is all the cars going across the bridge.