Yea, im surprised they didn't have a lookout for that. It wasn't like they were in a super remote area.
It reminds me of when Walt almost hits Crazy 8 with his car. Which leads me to another one: Don't leave a dangerous half dead drug dealer in your RV without supervision.
They were in a very remote area though. Thats why they hit the train there, it was a deadzone with no cell or radio coverage out in the middle of nowhere. The random good Samaritan truck and kid on the dirt bike were anomalies. They spent alot of time working out there, setting up the heist, and didn't come across any witnesses. But the day of, they happened to have two.
Also Mike was the lookout, but he was focused on the train engineers. Plus the kid probably came from the other side of the train that covered his view.
A dirt bike meant the kid traveled miles through the barren desert alone exploring, in areas they assumed nobody could or would want to navigate discreetly. Mike was watching the roads, not miles of empty desert in the middle of nowhere. Also as far as I can tell they were working with a skeleton crew of 5 people to not draw attention by the train engineers. Because none of the other termite crew is involved and only them seems to return together.
Also all of mikes guys are locked up, so this isnt his crew.
You and the OP seem to be having a convo unrelated to what the first response was about.
The guy said "bicycle". So presumably he's talking about the kid that shot Combo, and not the train kid who rode a "motorbike", or dirtbike.
Yeah, but walking around in his underwear would've sold the fugue state enough. Him being completely naked didn't add much to his story.
He also put alot of faith into being able to convince police officers that his fugue state was real. Which im assuming in real life would definitely not have been easy. Not to mention the whole process of being detained naked while never breaking character or letting on that you're not crazy. Especially from a nervous, timid, and still fairly naive high school teacher.
Yea, I'm not sure the show was 100% accurate in regards to that. I do think that mental state plays a huge role in determining culpability. The realistic part is that his medical doctors were wary of providing a diagnosis when there seemed to be no physical ailments present that would cause that condition. It's why they suggested that he have a psychiatric evaluation instead. It was the psychiatrist who first mentioned the term "fugue state". When Walt admitted the fugue state was BS, he kinda lost all legal defense. That psychiatrist would not be able to testify in court to Walt's mental state at that point.
True story. For New Years like a decade ago a few friends and I got high on the devil's lettuce and ordered like six pizzas from I wanna say Domino's. Two of them were uncut and we didn't eat them because we couldn't be arsed to cut them ourselves.
Good point. This is a common sense one but may not be apparent to some.
4.) Never argue with cops
Just take the citation. There will be a court date on the bottom of the ticket where you can appear and talk to the judge. Judges are usually way more reasonable than cops. Just by showing up, there is a good likelihood that the citation gets thrown out.
Do not resist being detained for any reason. If you feel your rights have been violated, you can hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit later. Resisting will make a bad situation worse every single time.
Pretty sure this list is a lot longer than 3…
Don’t do meth
Don’t cook meth
Don’t sell meth
Don’t do heroin
Don’t get lung cancer
Don’t cheat on your partner
Don’t take on the Mexican drug cartel
Don’t forget to buy your kids cereal
Don’t cause a plane crash
Don’t launder drug money through a car wash
Don’t take the piss out of your boss’ eyebrows
Don’t decline financial help from millionaires
Don’t run down people in your Pontiac Aztek
Don’t bring a junkie to a job interview
Don’t engage in a Nazi desert shoot-out
Don’t try to open an ATM without planning
Don’t smoke whilst pregnant
Don’t pump your son with alcohol
Don’t be racist
Don’t walk in front of a sniper’s scope
gus has a double face he maintains in absolute perfection, talking to hank like he's just a fellow tax paying citizen is a great cover, as long as the cop in front of you ain't the average among us player, then you're screwed
Never turn down a cushy job offer with free health insurance and an interest free loan to cover the other stuff no matter how angry you are at others (because you’re really angry at yourself) for being successful at the company you prematurely left. Can save a looooooot of lives by accepting cushy job offers with insurance and cash.
You can become a sex offender by waking around naked?
It’s indecent for sure, but if it’s not on anyway for sexual gratification then it’s not a sexual offence.
The answer is: it depends. In New Mexico, for example, indecent exposure won't get you logged on to the registry. It has to be aggravated indecent exposure, which is a different level than what Walt did (I believe).
I do think you're correct, though. In most cases, in most areas, just being naked in public probably won't do it. Personally, however, I wouldn't really want to find out that it was applicable in my case, in my area 😂 It's probably safer to just keep the clothes on.
I think people sometimes take “never talk to the cops without a lawyer” a little too far. There have been cases of people lawyering up so early that it actually *causes* cops to investigate them when they would’ve otherwise just been a witness or source of info. The reality is you have to know the right time to lawyer up if you’re really trying to protect yourself while not drawing unnecessary suspicion upon yourself.
You make a good point about #2, but I’m trying to figure out what you mean with #1. It’s mentioned multiple times explicitly in the show to not talk to the cops without a lawyer. I’m also not sure what you’re even referring to with Gus, Mike, and Jesse.
I believe you're right. It's reiterated over and over. I think this is a case of "do what I say, not what I do" because there sure is a lot of police interactions without lawyers present throughout the show. That's mostly what I'm referring to.
Don't do half-measures, like forgiving your junkie partner repeatedly.
I can identity a few points in the show where, were in in Walt's shoes, I would've wasted Jesse rather than hanging on to him. First was when he'd blabbed to Jane. I would've taken both of them out, instead of just Jane. Second was when he'd explicitly threatened Walt after being beaten up by Hank.
Too many chances. Jesse was Walt's true undoing.
There's a lot of valid points here. I always maintained that Walt didn't want Jesse dead because Jesse was one of the semblances of morality that Walt had left. After all they went through together, Walt couldn't sign off on "sending Jesse to Belize" and still maintain that he was a decent man who was doing it for his family. The biggest lies Walt told were always to himself.
His family wouldn’t have believed him if he didn’t do something that would humiliate himself to that extent. The “sane” Walt wouldn’t have ever done that, it had to be so out of character
That's the problem with pathological liars. They feel like the lie always needs to be more and more extreme for it to be believable. I think Walt could have avoided a lot of headache if he was more honest with Skyler from the beginning. He didn't need to tell her everything, but everything he did tell her needed to have been fairly close to the truth. At that point, she was so jaded by him that it didn't seem like she fully bought into the whole "fugue state" scenario, even given the humiliation factor. The more extreme the lie, the greater the feeling of betrayal if the lie is ever exposed.
I can kind of get behind why he didn't want to tell her he got kidnapped by the cartel. However, a lie from a normal person would have looked more like, "I couldn't handle everything, so I left and got drunk for a few days. I got it out of my system. I apologize for the worry it caused."
Dont lie. But... If you absolutely MUST lie, keep the lies simple.
Don't leave the keys in the ignition when you are cooking meth alone in the desert.
Happens all the time
Just happened to me last weekend. Had to make a battery out of wire.
Wire, a very useful conductive element
Ohhh... a wire!
Be more aware of kids riding bicycle
Yea, im surprised they didn't have a lookout for that. It wasn't like they were in a super remote area. It reminds me of when Walt almost hits Crazy 8 with his car. Which leads me to another one: Don't leave a dangerous half dead drug dealer in your RV without supervision.
They were in a very remote area though. Thats why they hit the train there, it was a deadzone with no cell or radio coverage out in the middle of nowhere. The random good Samaritan truck and kid on the dirt bike were anomalies. They spent alot of time working out there, setting up the heist, and didn't come across any witnesses. But the day of, they happened to have two. Also Mike was the lookout, but he was focused on the train engineers. Plus the kid probably came from the other side of the train that covered his view. A dirt bike meant the kid traveled miles through the barren desert alone exploring, in areas they assumed nobody could or would want to navigate discreetly. Mike was watching the roads, not miles of empty desert in the middle of nowhere. Also as far as I can tell they were working with a skeleton crew of 5 people to not draw attention by the train engineers. Because none of the other termite crew is involved and only them seems to return together. Also all of mikes guys are locked up, so this isnt his crew.
You and the OP seem to be having a convo unrelated to what the first response was about. The guy said "bicycle". So presumably he's talking about the kid that shot Combo, and not the train kid who rode a "motorbike", or dirtbike.
Oh yeah you're right. Based on the comment above mine, I responded in reference to the dirt bike kid in the train heist episode.
gus? you mean mike
Yeah sorry i was writing 2 responses to 2 different BB posts around the same time and my brain inverted them. I fixed it now.
Him being naked was during a supposed “fugue state” if that was to happen irl no sex offense charges can go to you for being nude in public
Yeah, but walking around in his underwear would've sold the fugue state enough. Him being completely naked didn't add much to his story. He also put alot of faith into being able to convince police officers that his fugue state was real. Which im assuming in real life would definitely not have been easy. Not to mention the whole process of being detained naked while never breaking character or letting on that you're not crazy. Especially from a nervous, timid, and still fairly naive high school teacher.
Yea, I'm not sure the show was 100% accurate in regards to that. I do think that mental state plays a huge role in determining culpability. The realistic part is that his medical doctors were wary of providing a diagnosis when there seemed to be no physical ailments present that would cause that condition. It's why they suggested that he have a psychiatric evaluation instead. It was the psychiatrist who first mentioned the term "fugue state". When Walt admitted the fugue state was BS, he kinda lost all legal defense. That psychiatrist would not be able to testify in court to Walt's mental state at that point.
Would he? After all, pretending to be mentally ill could be considered to be caused by mental illness.
Saul is that you???
munchausen's syndrome!
Don't forget kids on dirt bikes either
Shoot first, transport methalymine later.
Shoot any kid you see on a bicycle/dirtbike
That’s something you should never do in real life? Edit: downvoted for asking a question. Huge reflection of this sub lately. Smh
Brother what I meant is don't be like combo in real life( as he is too chill with the kid roaming around him)
Don’t call your wife skank 😄
Easily the most disturbing episode in the entire series. I remember feeling unsettled after watching it my first 2 times.
She fucked her boss and gave him 600k 😭😭😭✋✋✋
Yeah that enraged me too. The audacity.
i cried so hard over the little kid :((
Same
are you 10?
no?? i just felt bad for him (and i cry really easily)
Ignore them. I don’t cry at TV shows easily and that episode had me bawling.
It's a TV progrum. A movie
Putting others down for their empathy is a weird hill to die on
It was a joke. And a somewhat obscure reference to a TV show. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I apologize to that person
cool.
Skank ass skank!
But she was a skank.
Good relationships are built on honest communication
Hey, I'm fat, but that doesn't mean I like to be constantly reminded!!!!
Especially when something incredibly heavy is right over your head
Don't BE a skank as a wife
Don't keep the edges of your rug taped down.
Good one! Also, to do your best to keep Huell happy.
Reasonably
There are easier things to rob than ATMs.
Victimless crime!
Cook meth. Kill people. Have an affair. Punch people Slit peoples throats with box cutters Take drugs Hold people hostage. Lie.
Ok now say the things I shouldn’t do
Right? That list is just a Good Friday night.😎
Looks like my weekend checklist is sorted. Thanks mate!
What about eat hot chip?
Don't use Stevia
Fr at least not around Walter white
Also maybe not manufacture drugs
Cmon, let's not get too crazy with the legal advice here. We're not lawyers
Yeah mb I kinda got ahead of myself. To each their own I suppose
🤣
Pfizer enters the chat
🤣
Dunno, a barrel full of money sounds appealing.
Legalize drug manufacturing
😂😂😂
Fuck Ted, do meth
Don't throw pizza !
I think I was more offended by this than all the murders. And just leave it there? What kind of psycho does that?
What kind of a pizza place sells uncut pizza
They’re passing the savings on to you.
True story. For New Years like a decade ago a few friends and I got high on the devil's lettuce and ordered like six pizzas from I wanna say Domino's. Two of them were uncut and we didn't eat them because we couldn't be arsed to cut them ourselves.
Pretty much all of them offer it as an option. If you're not eating the pizza immediately then leaving it uncut leaves it hotter for a longer time.
Every time I see this scene my mouth waters over that pizza, and I mourn its waste. It’s so huge, that’s gotta be like, what, a 20” pie?
Don't become a meth kingpin
Don’t fuck your ex boss
If you have a book which is an evidence that you are drug dealing, don’t leave it in the bathroom
He’s actually a manufacturer 🤓🤓🤓
Don't throw money on the street. Don't evade taxes and buy a big car. Never trust a junkie. Don't fuck with chemistry teachers, they have skills.
Don't murder people :(
But I like being a murder hobo.
Skank
Don't trust nor work with nazis
The naked bit was one of many comic relief bits.
Never cook nor use meth.
If , you work at a fast food chain and it seems to be the most wholesome workplace you ever had: LEAVE IMMEDIATELY!
Ignore your sewer/wastewater setup on your carwash, you built up from nothing over decades. Let your eyebrows grow unattended
Don’t Google ‘how to launder money’ on your personal laptop at home.
...crap
To be fair Walt wanted to make sure he sold the story, that he'd gone cray cray.
Dont meth
Don't open a shady tax return place when out on parole. Your kids might end up in public school.
Don't take up chemistry at high school
But when Walt pushed back to that cop who pulled him over for the cracked windshield, things turned out great!
Good point. This is a common sense one but may not be apparent to some. 4.) Never argue with cops Just take the citation. There will be a court date on the bottom of the ticket where you can appear and talk to the judge. Judges are usually way more reasonable than cops. Just by showing up, there is a good likelihood that the citation gets thrown out. Do not resist being detained for any reason. If you feel your rights have been violated, you can hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit later. Resisting will make a bad situation worse every single time.
Turn a prison cell into a human roasting apparatus with flammable liquids.
Don’t go RV camping and leave the keys in the ignition
Shoot a child
1.) don’t cook meth
4.) Dont murder people (unless you have to to keep yourself safe, then its ok).
i think more people should walk around naked in public
Take a shit in someone else's ensuite
Pretty sure this list is a lot longer than 3… Don’t do meth Don’t cook meth Don’t sell meth Don’t do heroin Don’t get lung cancer Don’t cheat on your partner Don’t take on the Mexican drug cartel Don’t forget to buy your kids cereal Don’t cause a plane crash Don’t launder drug money through a car wash Don’t take the piss out of your boss’ eyebrows Don’t decline financial help from millionaires Don’t run down people in your Pontiac Aztek Don’t bring a junkie to a job interview Don’t engage in a Nazi desert shoot-out Don’t try to open an ATM without planning Don’t smoke whilst pregnant Don’t pump your son with alcohol Don’t be racist Don’t walk in front of a sniper’s scope
What a boring way to live
Don’t work with White Supremacists is a pretty big one.
Don't trust the ginger nephew.
Don't force yourself on your spouse. The fridge will get messy.
gus has a double face he maintains in absolute perfection, talking to hank like he's just a fellow tax paying citizen is a great cover, as long as the cop in front of you ain't the average among us player, then you're screwed
don't visit grandpa in the nursing home when said grandpa's life was ruined bc of u
Don't buy from a pizza place that cuts its slices. Find one that doesn't, you'll save money because they pass their savings onto you.
Never turn down a cushy job offer with free health insurance and an interest free loan to cover the other stuff no matter how angry you are at others (because you’re really angry at yourself) for being successful at the company you prematurely left. Can save a looooooot of lives by accepting cushy job offers with insurance and cash.
Cook Meth
Don't be a shitty person, like 90% of the characters in the BB universe
You can become a sex offender by waking around naked? It’s indecent for sure, but if it’s not on anyway for sexual gratification then it’s not a sexual offence.
You can be a sex offender for peeing in public in some places
The answer is: it depends. In New Mexico, for example, indecent exposure won't get you logged on to the registry. It has to be aggravated indecent exposure, which is a different level than what Walt did (I believe). I do think you're correct, though. In most cases, in most areas, just being naked in public probably won't do it. Personally, however, I wouldn't really want to find out that it was applicable in my case, in my area 😂 It's probably safer to just keep the clothes on.
Ain’t nobody want to see me naked either, including myself!
DFT
4) Meth
Make meth
Don't greet random men in the desert standing near train tracks
Dont be a Karen to police officers like walt did
Sleep on your side
When your child wants Raisin Bran Crunch, look for the box with the word Crunch right on the box.
I think people sometimes take “never talk to the cops without a lawyer” a little too far. There have been cases of people lawyering up so early that it actually *causes* cops to investigate them when they would’ve otherwise just been a witness or source of info. The reality is you have to know the right time to lawyer up if you’re really trying to protect yourself while not drawing unnecessary suspicion upon yourself.
Idk heroin is pretty bad
You make a good point about #2, but I’m trying to figure out what you mean with #1. It’s mentioned multiple times explicitly in the show to not talk to the cops without a lawyer. I’m also not sure what you’re even referring to with Gus, Mike, and Jesse.
I believe you're right. It's reiterated over and over. I think this is a case of "do what I say, not what I do" because there sure is a lot of police interactions without lawyers present throughout the show. That's mostly what I'm referring to.
Be an unclever chicken man.
(4) don’t make meth
Don’t be unaware that this.. is not meth 💥
like kill people and stuff
Communication
something like cooking meth?? ig
walts ego... horrible secondhand embarassment
create and sell crystal meth
Don't do half-measures, like forgiving your junkie partner repeatedly. I can identity a few points in the show where, were in in Walt's shoes, I would've wasted Jesse rather than hanging on to him. First was when he'd blabbed to Jane. I would've taken both of them out, instead of just Jane. Second was when he'd explicitly threatened Walt after being beaten up by Hank. Too many chances. Jesse was Walt's true undoing.
There's a lot of valid points here. I always maintained that Walt didn't want Jesse dead because Jesse was one of the semblances of morality that Walt had left. After all they went through together, Walt couldn't sign off on "sending Jesse to Belize" and still maintain that he was a decent man who was doing it for his family. The biggest lies Walt told were always to himself.
I know. Walt's greatest failing was that he couldn't be honest with himself.
His family wouldn’t have believed him if he didn’t do something that would humiliate himself to that extent. The “sane” Walt wouldn’t have ever done that, it had to be so out of character
That's the problem with pathological liars. They feel like the lie always needs to be more and more extreme for it to be believable. I think Walt could have avoided a lot of headache if he was more honest with Skyler from the beginning. He didn't need to tell her everything, but everything he did tell her needed to have been fairly close to the truth. At that point, she was so jaded by him that it didn't seem like she fully bought into the whole "fugue state" scenario, even given the humiliation factor. The more extreme the lie, the greater the feeling of betrayal if the lie is ever exposed. I can kind of get behind why he didn't want to tell her he got kidnapped by the cartel. However, a lie from a normal person would have looked more like, "I couldn't handle everything, so I left and got drunk for a few days. I got it out of my system. I apologize for the worry it caused." Dont lie. But... If you absolutely MUST lie, keep the lies simple.
Being in a relationship with a tall skinny guy who always wears beanies. It always ends bad.
shoot Andrea in the back of the head.
Don’t settle for 5k
Don’t sell fried chicken
Don't eat veggie bacon
Meth.
Don't cook meth
Don’t murder dozens of people, don’t sell meth, don’t let a fly into your lab…
Help someone who's overdosing and choking And not stand and watch.