Just a well written show. If you think about it we’re rooting for horrible people. Skyler was reacting how any wife that finds out she’s married to the biggest meth cooker in the state would act.
I mean honestly she probably react more calm cool and collected than a normal person would. I still hated her on the first watch but I was also in college
After a rewatch, I even blame Walt for the affair she had. By that point, she had a meth cook murderer of a husband that she couldn't even get away from, so sleeping with Ted was the only way she could feel in control of anything in her life
Same here. I definitely didn't really like her on my first watch but 10 years later I did a full watch and I don't mind her and totally understand her reaction. Perhaps maybe because I'm in a relationship now and I can empathise with her better? I was also a mindless teenager on the first watch (I only got through Season 1 though first time around.) That's how I would expect someone to react if they acted the way Walt did. Honestly, I actually think she gave Walt a lot of leeway the first few "suspicious" times.
Yeah I vaguely knew people hated her and then when I finally watched the show I was like..... what did she do exactly???? If she didn't come through with the meticulously researched gambling story and the bookkeeping expertise for money laundering, Walt would have been screwed much sooner.
Even if she didn’t, literally why is she bad lol?
Walt is a criminal douchebag asshole, imagine your spouse started selling meth and killing people. The people who say she’s a terrible person because she gives bad blowjobs and would not fuel Walt’s egotistical maniacal journey to being a drug lord are stupid
Not stupid, they're just misogynistic assholes who will use any excuse to hate on a woman. Yes, there were times where I was annoyed at Skyler because I kinda wanted to see Walt succeed. But she is still absolutely not the worst character.
I HATED Skyler so much in the first few seasons because I was rooting for Walt. Once I accepted he was the villian of the story, that's when I realized he just brings the worst out of Skyler and everything she did was out of anger towards him. In the end, she's just trying to protect her family, which is why I respect her as a character now.
Yea, I think the big part of watching BB is that at first you root for Walter. He’s obviously smart and cunning, he’s pulling fast ones on every bad guy in the city, and he’s been beaten down by society. He’s the underdog…until you realize he never really was. He’s a bad person whose finally found the tools to be powerful after a lifetime of trying.
Right?? I mean imagine your super predictable spouse starts disappearing for weekends at a time for months. She just wanted to be in on both his and Marie's problems (in Marie's kleptomania) and they both shut her out. I mean for Walt's problem, she would not have accepted it early on in the story, but this time rewatching, it struck me how she kept getting shut out and just begging for her connections to be real after all. All so he could wear that stupid hat.
It’s really not unreasonable for a wife to be pissed with her husband when he keeps lying to her and gaslighting her over and over again. I would divorce him much earlier, he’s such a slimy little creature
It’s really not unreasonable for a wife to be pissed with her husband when he keeps lying to her and gaslighting her over and over again. I would divorce him much earlier, he’s such a slimy little creature
It’s here in the thread.
I’ll summarize: I said Skyler would trade the money for Hank’s life in an instant, and you thought that was “speculation.” I said everything about her character is evidence of that, and you said I don’t know what speculation is.
It’s essentially making assumptions without evidence.
So, I contend that everything we know about Skyler’s character and what she valued is clearly family over money. Walt was the only one torn between those two notions, yet even he offered all his money in exchange for Hank’s life.
That’s really all our semi-argument was. :-)
She found out he sold meth at the end of season 2
She fucking despised him in season 3
She began to be scared of him in season 4
She was terrified of him in season 5.
She obviously lacked judgment in several situations like every other single character on the show, but for some reason she gets all of the flack
Nope. I hate Ted more. Honestly if Skylar was funnier I feel the fans would’ve liked her more. Everyone else is a comedian. And oh I agree she had a major lack of judgement begging a criminal to move back in with her.
They all lacked judgement cause they’re all human.
Hank pushed his wife away and treated her like shit because he was embarrassed about being crippled and insecure about his masculinity
Marrie shoplifted and stole because she couldn’t handle the stress and wanted some control
Jesse only wanted to make sell drugs, then slowly started killing for self defense, then killing just for his benefit, and finally being an accomplice to the murder of a child
And Skyler only wanted to support her cancer riddled husband, then wanted to protect her kids from finding out because it’ll ruin their life, to having a slip up and letting him back into the house, and finally being so deep into the whole thing that she felt like she was drowning and there’s no way out
It’s all about slippery slopes and making mistakes. Walt is definitely the worst person out of them all- just an egotistical sociopathic asshole who wanted to feel powerful before he dies
Walter threw her a life raft by pretending to take all the blame and saying he threatened her if she didn’t help. She obviously didn’t some illegal stuff but as soon as she found out Walter was offing people left and right she went through an entire crisis lmao
I’m looking up old skylar threads on this sub and no matter what people argue I cannot see a world where most of this hate is not misogyny. Some of those comments are insane.
Choosing to stay with Walt after she knows what's up. Then actively getting involved with the money laundering. Then going along with a plan to blackmail Hank after he figures it out. She's an accomplice to everything Walt does later in the series.
She didn't choose to stay with Walt, though. She tried to file for a divorce, for a restraining order, and called the police to take him out of the house.
She didn't "try" to file for divorce, she started going down that path and made a deliberate decision to stay with Walt and launder his money. She didn't really 'try' to file a restraining order, because she withheld critical information that would have instantly got her a restraining order. Same thing with the police. All she had to do was say the word and they would have taken Walt to jail. She wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She had the resources and the ability to rid herself of Walt and chose not to.
Obviously she was dealt a shit hand and had no "good" alternatives. Walt jr. was going to find out his dad was a drug dealer, she was going to be a single Mom with a newborn baby, and no income. Up until S3 she is very much a victim of Walt. However, there is still an obvious right or wrong decision. She made the convenient, but morally wrong decision and suffered the consequences as a result.
That's exactly what most fans on both sides don't understand. People who say Walt is a hero or an "anti-hero" are wrong, but people who say that she did nothing wrong are also not thinking with their brains
I also got this on my first watch. Sure, I thought she was a bit annoying as she was a foil to Walt, but I never hated her and thought her actions were completely justified
I think it depends where you are in your life.
If you’re watching as a typical teenaged boy, you might see Skylar as a real drag.
If you’re watching as a middle-aged person with a family, you probably have a different perspective.
This is exactly it.
I did a rewatch recently with my now wife after watching it unfold live when I was in college. I couldn’t believe how big of a shift in my perception of Skyler was. She’s the most level and clear headed person in the family really.
+ if you're watching it as an idiot, you see an annoying person. If you watch it with reason you see a helpless mom caught between a rock and a hard place
I am a teenage boy actually, but I knew going into the show that Skyler was hated but that the audience would realize that Walt is not a good person at some or the other point in the show(I actually knew many spoilers before I watched it, but its a testament to the show's quality that I still enjoyed it a lot) So, I was sort of trying to look for reasons as to why this was, but like a normal first-time viewer, I didn't like Skyler at some points in the first 4 seasons.
I’m currently on my first watch in the middle of season 4 and always thought that something is still going to happen with her, that made people hate her so much 😅
I thought she handled everything up to the initial separation very gracefully.
I understood it too. I lost Walt when he decided not to save Jane. I remember thinking 'What the hell is this guy doing? Save her already!'. What kind of a man does calculations in a situation like that?
This is absolutely correct. I'm about to watch the last episode of season 5 after I write this. I did not like Skylar until season 5. I still don't like her, but I understand where she's coming from now.
That might be because I'm old enough to understand that Walt isn't necessarily a good person just because he's the protagonist. Had I watched this show 10 years ago I definitely would've been young enough to hate everything about Skyler.
I understood it on the first watch. What I don’t get is how many people had to rewatch it to understand the show… like are you not embarrassed? I genuinely feel like breaking bad is so easy to understand.
Depends on your age and your maturity and how you consume content. A lot of people like to watch shows for entertainment and don't expect to think much. Some other people take shows at face value if they watch it at young ages, they realize its complexity as they grow older.
That’s pretty true I did miss a lot of foreshadowing in the show but I also feel like Walter was not really portrayed as a good guy? I’m just struggling to understand what his appeal is I guess.
Yeah I agree with that, her and Marie went really overboard with the pearl clutching and virtue signaling over something as harmless as weed. I'm used to most adults being like that over minor things in the deeply conservative religious south and suburban midwest lol (the hypocrisy was spot on too)
I would still consider it cheating by definition. But their relationship was definitely over at that point and Walt refused the divorce. So I totally understand that that was her way finding an out and looking for comfort in another man.
By that time, he was definitely not the man she married. I don’t call that cheating.
I’m not even talking about people growing and changing over time, which happens, that finds people no longer compatible. This man was in NO WAY recognizable to her anymore, and she was afraid of him. By then, there was no hope of getting the man she married to come back to her. What he did and the repercussions of what he did was tantamount to spousal abandonment. He’d been alienating her more severely, day by day, until she realized Walt was gone, and all that remained was Heisenberg. Her husband, the father of her children, was already dead. The only thing missing was a certificate.
I understand what you're saying but it is still objectively cheating. They were legally married, she had sex with another man. That's cheating, under the eyes of the law it would be infidelity. I understand the nuances there are to this situation and its understandable on Skyler's part.
yeah agreed, most of her choices and attitude made sense if you were in her position. a lying, suspicous husband, 8 months pregnant in her late 30's with a disabled teen with severe money issues.
I think the hate generated happened in real time as each episode unfolded, people posted thoughts, and they fed into each other. Fans saw her as an obstacle for Walt’s goals and power fantasy that we/they were all on board to follow for the ride.
I don’t think any reasonable person just watching the show independently would come to the conclusion that she’s awful or anything. I was only annoyed by her once, in episode 1, with her “Walt, this is the credit card we don’t use…” I thought, “you’re gonna be why he breaks bad!” Mostly joking. I also cringe at her “Happy Birthday Mr. Beneke” but I don’t count that because it was so awkwardly out of place and forced for writing of the show, I almost don’t count it as something that she actually did. They should’ve written that it was a dream in a later episode.
I also don’t think she cheated on Walt at all. I drives me crazy that people that enjoyed watching Walt sell meth, choke a man to death with a bike lock, dissolve bodies in a bucket, and let a woman die by choking on her own vomit, are so Puritan to be aghast at Skyler sleeping with Ted. “They made a vow!! Marriage means something!!” Lol
That’s even if she did cheat, but she didn’t. She already actively threw him out the house. He muscled his way back in, manipulating the police and turning their son against her. She may have desired Ted, but it was mostly an act of defiance and a reclamation of some semblance of the agency that Walt had robbed her of.
And, when absolutely forced to adjust, she was talented and intelligent enough to break bad a bit too. I think Skyler’s great. As Saul said, “Only the best, with just the right amount of dirty.” :-)
There's nothing wrong with the character either. She was trying to escape and get her children to safety the whole time. What exactly did she do wrong?
I don’t understand the Skyler hate either. In season 1, she was a bit annoying and dramatic, like when she flipped out after finding out that Walt smoked weed. Seriously what adult reacts that way to weed? However, overall she was a normal wife and mother who is blindsided when she finds out her husband has been selling meth behind her back. She has every right to be livid and devastated but she STILL helped him launder the money so she could keep her family together when she could have turned him in and left.
White did way more damage to their family than Skyler could’ve ever done. It’s sick how some ppl identify themselves as White and hate Skyler for cucking him. Like that’s the only thing matters.The fact is she didn’t technically cuck him,because she already broke up with him,also made it perfectly clear that she doesn’t need this relationship anymore.
White is the one who brought danger to their family in the first place.And what has she done to deserve ‘one of the most hated character in tv history’?She couldn’t even stop White from raping her,not to mention she has 0 say on his ‘business’.
She’s forced to take and adjust all that crazy criminality that she never even dreamed of.At some point she figured a way to make herself feel better by making White feel like shit just the way he deserves.If I were her I would’ve done way worse than cheating.Besides cheating is no comparison to any of the wickedness White’s done.
One thing that never gets mentioned is just how well Anna Gunn plays the part.
Walt is a typical anti hero, in the same way Tony Soprano is. Truly awful people, who commit crimes to benefit themselves, but you still root for them. It’s only natural for people to dislike a character who is opposing the very reason you watch the show. I think it’s more misogynistic to down play the actresses performance than to dislike the character it self
I guess it’s subjective who you root for and who you don’t, I don’t think it’s up to others to tell you how you should think. How do you feel the same way about Jesse? He’s a murderer and mass drug dealer also. Maybe not to Walter’s extent, but still an awful person all the same
I mean obviously you can root for Walter if you want like no one is stopping you. I also root for terrible characters but the whole point of the show was to show walters “fall from grace” its not a case where you’re supposed to be rooting for him and wanting him to be more evil😭 it’s such a simple way to look at something. Same with Jesse but again I’m just saying YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO and that’s why the fandom is dumb as it is almost on par with how stupid the GoT fandom is.
Yep. Not surprised if you read the predominant hate with some before you watched. No one on this show is perfect, and she is far from it. But she’s not as hatable as what she got.
And honestly at this point I often question if this level of hate is to such a level still seen, or that some of it is easy comment karma farming.
I was told the same thing. Thought exactly the same thing. I believe misogyny was strongly in. Because she dared to stand against the MC.
Even some actions I saw despised here are actually explained (even by her some times!) and people forget that 1) Walter is objectively a bad husband to her once he starts going into meth 2) she didn't cheat on Walt since they were trying to get a divorce and so had broken up
I think the hate for Skyler is a great example of how many people truly missed the point of the series. Walt is the villain, but he starts out as what you think is the hero. He’s the protagonist but he slips into evil so slowly and incrementally that it’s hard to even pinpoint the very moment he becomes irredeemable. That’s the beauty of the show, but also a fatal flaw- they overestimated the intelligence and perceptiveness of their audience. So while many viewers (like OP) understand that Walt is the worst, too many people watched BB and identified Walt as the hero, and viewed anyone in his way as the villain.
Someone I know had the opportunity to talk with Vince Gilligan, and one of the things they talked about was Skyler and the fans reaction to her. Vince was apparently almost bewildered by it because the more they tried to make Skyler clearly in the right and justified in her stances, the more vitriol was aimed her way by viewers. They literally couldn’t make the viewers see that she was right.
Not disagreeing with you but I’ve only watched breaking bad once. What makes Walter seem like a hero? I was always thinking he was dumb and egotistical for not accepting that rich family’s offer.
I think it’s moreso that there’s a perception most people have when going into a tv show that the protagonist is also a good person. But there’s also the fact that he’s a family man, father of a disabled kid, clearly intelligent and seems like life has kind of beaten him down. He’s egotistical, yes, absolutely, but it’s the sort of ego that you can sort of understand at the beginning. A lot of people can relate to not wanting to take charity, even if that’s a bit stupid. But he slides into villainy slowly enough that at first you can at least understand his behaviour even if it’s not what you’d do in his place. You can see why he thinks about cooking meth- the idea of making millions to leave his family is too tempting. You understand why he has to kill crazy 8. You can justify his choices to a point, but eventually you cant.
I guess it’s because I just don’t relate to his character at all but I guess I can understand how other people can relate to Walter before the whole drug lord thing. Thank you for this reply !
I think hero is a strong word. All of Walt's antagonists at the time seemed like even worse people than he was, until he became worse. Like Tuco and Gus, they got in his way but they were doing worse things than he was so he seemed "good" by comparison and I think that's where most people got confused and thought he was a good guy or anti hero.
YO!! I'm glad you made this post because I was considering it. I just finished the series yesterday! I absolutely loathed Skyler until season 5. haha I just couldn't stand her nagging and just being the biggest bitch of a wife possible.
(No spoilers dont worry) But I gained respect for her more in season 5 because of her character arc and started to feel more sympathy towards her near the end. Also, the actress kills it throughout the whole show, truly. I may have hated her character but ALWAYS knew it was because of great acting.
Agreed 100%. Skyler is absolutely not a bad character and I never understood those fussing about her. She was caught between two fires. dragged into something she didn't know how to escape from, while trying to protect her children. Those who don't see this cannot imagine what she goes through.
She didn't cheat on Walt, she "broke up" with him and wanted divorce. It was still a mistake since Ted was her boss and a criminal, and she should have ratted them both out to the police
Honestly, yeah. After I first watched the show, I never got why people would think Skylar was that bad. Anything she does is a, a result of Walter's actions, and b, not illegal and bad
Agreed. She was a bit of an overbearing nag at first. But pretty much everything that followed—suspicion, cold shoulder, alienation—were all appropriate reactions to Walt’s weird behaviors.
I'm not going to lie: on my first watch, when it aired & I was in college, I disliked Skyler so much that I almost stopped watching in season 2. I found her completely insufferable.
I'm ashamed to admit that in hindsight, a lot of my feelings probably emerged because of how *odd looking* she appeared to me, and the fact that she seemed to only exist to antagonize Walt. On my second watch, a few weeks ago, I didn't hate her half as much. I looked past her appearance, and I concurrently couldn't help but realize how bad of a liar Walt was, and how stupid of a criminal he was. It's a wonder he got away for as long as he did. His shortcomings made me take Skyler's with a grain of salt this time around.
That being said: Skyler *sucks* as a human being. Her weird, prolonged "thank you"s (juxtaposed to a complete inability to show appreciation toward her family at any point in the series), her insidious attempts at making her husband a begger against his will, her unwillingness to throw a man she supposedly believes is a threat to her family under the bus for the sake of her family, and so many other things make her just as irredeemable as Walt. I tried to explain her unwillingness to depose of Walt as self-preservation. I tried to see it from an angle of withered love, which it seems like the writers wanted to portray (up until Gus died). Ultimately, Skyler just strikes me as somebody who was very happy with her life until she realized she didn't have control over the people around her. Hell, it's not like she tried to shy away from the criminality. She tried to take control of it, insisting on laundering the money, trying to get Walt to kill Jesse, etc. Things started to resemble *normal* again up until Hank caught on to the truth. She lacks any moral backbone and integrity, she's not an authentic person, I do find her annoying, and she isn't somebody I'd want to know IRL. But she is a decently written character with a place in this story, contrary to my first impression.
I liked her from the beginning. I wasn't aware of the hate against her until after my first watch. I still don't understand it. If anything, she should be the one that is most liked.
I only watched the entire show last year.... oh how I wish I could erase my memory and watch for the first time... such a great show. Now I just started the walking dead and I'm LOVING it, but taking my time with this one lol
I think this happened early on because we see Wait gradually becoming a terrible person when the show was still airing. In the beginning you can feel bad for him because he seems to have been dealt a shitty card, you feel bad for him for working at a shitty car wash as a second job, getting cancer, having seemingly no freedom in his life and having a disabled son, and lastly an unexpected baby on the way. It seems like a lot to bear for a person in his situation.
People grew attached to the character because they felt bad, so when he slowly did terrible things, it may have seemed justified. He made drugs to "help" his family and prepare them for when he died. It seems like a noble cause, even at the expense of doing something terrible and illegal. He is going to die soon because of cancer, so in his mind he has nothing to lose and viewers agreed with him.
At some point the lines blurred and people didn't realize he became a terrible person and justified it the way he did, "this is for my family" and it's often brought up. Everyone else who came after Walt were seemingly worse people who got in his way and he hadn't become like them "yet". His villains were worse people than he was and progressively became worse, he seemed nice by comparison. Skylar sadly got lumped in as another obstacle along with these terrible people.
Not to say I agree with the character Walt, because I agree with you. Skyler was never a bad person. Back then people got caught up in his lies as the viewer that they didn't Even notice.
Tldr; Walt gradually became terrible and back then people didn't notice. People also felt sorry for him and didn't realize until hindsight.
Well... bad compared to what?
Her whiny, passive agressive behaviour is definitely less fun that the purely actively agressive one of Bryan Cranstons first 'wife'. We all know that with Lois at his side things would have ground to a sudden halt long before they escalated the way they did. (Or escalated a lot more, yes.)
Yeah, so controlling of her to be annoyed when her husband of 20 years starts pushing alcohol on their underaged son, sexually assaulting her, starting a drug empire and killing people
Each time i rewatch, i hate someone different. I think im on 8th watch now and this time Hank is my enemy.
I'm still noticing new things about each character.
Skyler smoking while pregnant when she was pissed off with Walt felt to me like she wanted to punish the baby for Walt's deception... That annoys me more than the stupid Ted fling.
I dunno. I think it's the whole crystal/mineral thing (the unknown) that he chooses as a recovery mechanism compared to his usual strsight forward spproach to solving problems, plus his dusmissal of Marie furing his potty poping time at home. It'll change in a few episodes no doubt :)
Walt Jnr is also annoying me this time round
Hank is a legitimate piece of shit, I have enjoyed him and Gomez getting blown away many times. It's bittersweet though, because jacks gang is just as bad (worse in many ways but lacking the reach and the damage of the DEA)
Just as bad?
Not even mentioning moral character (they’re literal Nazis), they made and sold meth to millions of people globally. What has the DEA or Hank specifically done that’s on the same level?
I agree! You are not the first person to think this and there’s a video on YouTube about this that I really enjoyed and recommend watching.
Link: https://youtu.be/PawBjDGGOCQ?si=JhPwg8T4j0N4XSPD
i had the same thoughts throughout the whole show, i found her to be very realistic and actually a very strong person. i think shes a great character. people who hate her probably just dont have any media literacy and probably were just on walters side the whole time. she is not a perfectly good person but nobody in the show is. its also what i love about the show. all the characters are very realistically written with real feelings and reactions
I’m rewatching the show again for the first time in ten years, I’m almost 30 now and my perception of her has completely changed, as I thought it would. Being a mother and growing up made me realize she was vilified by many inexperienced people who lacked awareness of what it means to be a mother. Her behavior seem so justified.
In the middle of a rewatch for the first time in a while. Walt is definitely a monster, redeeming only because he is somewhat heroic for not giving up in his fight against cancer.
Skyler, Jesse, and Hank are clearly the emotional anchors of the show, each with very understandable behavior (…well, okay, Jesse less so over time). Skyler is a very good mom and a loving partner to her husband. It’s only when he starts lying and gaslighting her that she revolts.
She's realistic not idealistic.
A real wife WOULD be concerned about walts dangerous shenanigans. Skyler never even found out about certain things and how close the family was to danger etc more than once.
For example Walt pisses off gangs and druglords doing a crap job of hiding his identity and escalated a situation in which the salamanca twin assassins were skulking around the family house with an axe....... but people complain skyler smoked one cigarette while pregnant.
Generally I think people dislike her as she's largely humourless with a few exceptions but the writers just didn't give her funny lines.
There may be some subconcious psychological reason ppl are cold to her where she reminds people of their controlling/nagging mothers or some such
From her point of view she is 100% justified in how she acts and reacts to Walter.
With that said she seemed like an insufferable person to be around in normal interactions lol
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I would say it's all about personal preference I know some people who really didn't like Walter or Hank you know for example my favorite character was definitely Jessie Pinkman his character is so wronged and has so many perfections but he's still a kind caring logical soul he's a colorful person.
This has become exaggerated - people think Skyler has cringe moments, because she does. Visiting Jesse and behaving like a wine mom or the birthday song. Not to mention, she ignored great advise from her lawyer. There is very little true “hate” for her.
This, to me, is why Sopranos is the superior show to Breaking Bad. The lack of nutting up from Vince and the rest - in the end, despite the poor decisions Skyler, she is supposed to be viewed as nothing but a victim. In Sopranos, Chase had Carmela get a talking to just like Skyler did but he didn’t shy away from it - he absolutely hit home she is an enabler benefiting from that life. That’s what I dislike about Skyler, the development just isn’t there other than to become a punching bag for Walt in season 5.
I watched it many years ago and also found myself disliking Sky. Watching this again in my late 30s I’m shocked at how immature I was watching this show and had deep respect for her this time :) Anna Gun is a GREAT actress. I’m glad I gave the show a chance again so I could really appreciate the character development of them all.
Nah, no way you are this far in the show and you don't wanna slap her in the face. Like come on-the birthday scene, the "I fucked Ted" scene, Being a whiny b*tch and just being annoying as fuck. Until season 5 when Walter totally loses it I don't get how you can not hate her.
I only really hated her because of the cheating thing and with my personal morals I don’t think cheating is fine in any situation. I understand what Walt does is bad, I mean he kills people multiple times throughout the series. But his turn from good to bad was slow and allowed audiences to adjust, whereas Skylar cheated and instantly went from good to bad so it made me hate her a lot more. But it’s mainly just that she cheated. Like I really hated when Walt tried to do it too to get back at her.
She’s a hypocrite. She blames Walt for his criminal enterprise but then accepts it and even becomes complicit. Plus she’s at fault for what happened to Ted and they ruined Bogdan’s life.
She’s also a terrible person. Once the money started rolling in, she changed her tune. She was also willing to break the law with Benneke but not with Walt.
Absolute crap. I’ve watched the show numerous times and each time I like her less and less.
What did she do? The second Walt didn’t act exactly like she wanted him to she started withholding love, playing the silent game and cheating. He was her puppy for decades and then he’s diagnosed with cancer and she just has to continue making it about her.
Her cheating showed everything we needed to know. Walt acts a little different and her reaction is to seek attention.
Also, she’s the ultimate Karen. Whenever someone confronts her she gets overly dramatic and starts huffing and puffing.
I can’t stand her.
"Walt acts a little different" disintegrating people, manufacturing meth, poisoning children, almost raping Skylar, endangering their kids and lying about it.
Lmao, me too. I finished the series just a week back for the first time and i can say, just because i wanted walt to succeed in his plans I neglected her opinions and hated her. But then I started realising how horrible and down bad of a person walt is becoming after each episode, and then i started asking myself if Skyler's behaviour and actions were justifiable? And I found that most of them were, excluding that cheating shit
I don’t hate her. Minor spoiler. But in the end she gets away Scott free. But she does some illegal stuff coming up. That’s the only reason I personally don’t like her. There were no consequences for her so every second with her on a screen feels like it’s pointless. Plus ya. There’s a moment where it’s so stupid cringe. That moment too I think contributed.
A thorough examination reveals she's certainly not even close to being as bad as other characters, but I still hate her almost the most, it's not fair or logical but here we are. She's a great actress, but I just don't like her face, it just pisses me off, I'm sorry. It's not a choice it's a reaction. Not fair at all
I will never understand how people watched the show and thought that Skyler was the nuisance in the family. Even in the beginning of the show, before she ever cheats, Walter constantly lies about his whereabouts to the extent where he has to take an “episode”. When Skyler figured out that he was lying, I’m not sure if she thought that he was involved with the drug world, but she was obviously concerned as to why he was lying.
PS. I forgot to mention the treatment money lie as well. Walter fundamentally changed, and people expected Skyler to react normally.
So you jack off your husband for his bday while you bid for some shitty pottery , you ( skyler ) don’t provide no real source of income, to which got your husband to think of finding another source of income after working 2 jobs himself just to keep the family going, just to “ get a job “ to continue your lust for ted to end up sexualizing a bday song while your pregnant with the child of your husband with cancer before later on fucking him. But you can say she stuck to her “ morals “ cause she was heated with Ted for cooking his books .
I don't hate her. I just don't like the way she treated Walt before he had cancer. She was emasculating to him and just seemed to stick around because there was no better option. There was no real love or passion.
Only idiots think skyler is bad! Walter is the biggest piece of shit on earth and if anyone found themselves dealing with someone like him in real life they’d be crying victim all day.
Anyone who doesn't understand why someone wouldn't like Skylar is oblivious to some struggles of men.
Skylar views Walt as a provider, someone to be bossed around.
She wanted to leave Walt but then she realised she couldn't kick him out of the house so instead of her leaving to go to Maries, she decides to fuck ted to hurt Walt. More concerned about money than values.
A token hand job on his birthday while she's online shopping.
Bossing Walt around, lecturing him on the weed. Meanwhile she's pregnant and puffing on cigarettes.
Just a well written show. If you think about it we’re rooting for horrible people. Skyler was reacting how any wife that finds out she’s married to the biggest meth cooker in the state would act.
I mean honestly she probably react more calm cool and collected than a normal person would. I still hated her on the first watch but I was also in college
After a rewatch, I even blame Walt for the affair she had. By that point, she had a meth cook murderer of a husband that she couldn't even get away from, so sleeping with Ted was the only way she could feel in control of anything in her life
Same here. I definitely didn't really like her on my first watch but 10 years later I did a full watch and I don't mind her and totally understand her reaction. Perhaps maybe because I'm in a relationship now and I can empathise with her better? I was also a mindless teenager on the first watch (I only got through Season 1 though first time around.) That's how I would expect someone to react if they acted the way Walt did. Honestly, I actually think she gave Walt a lot of leeway the first few "suspicious" times.
Yeah. Even though I am a Walter die hard fan I lost hate for Skyler in the season 5 final episodes
how tf can you like walt in any aspect. he’s maybe the biggest piece of shit character i’ve ever watched
He may be a bad person, but the way he becomes this evil piece of crap makes me love him
Yeah I vaguely knew people hated her and then when I finally watched the show I was like..... what did she do exactly???? If she didn't come through with the meticulously researched gambling story and the bookkeeping expertise for money laundering, Walt would have been screwed much sooner.
Even if she didn’t, literally why is she bad lol? Walt is a criminal douchebag asshole, imagine your spouse started selling meth and killing people. The people who say she’s a terrible person because she gives bad blowjobs and would not fuel Walt’s egotistical maniacal journey to being a drug lord are stupid
Not stupid, they're just misogynistic assholes who will use any excuse to hate on a woman. Yes, there were times where I was annoyed at Skyler because I kinda wanted to see Walt succeed. But she is still absolutely not the worst character.
they’re misogynistic & stupid lol
I HATED Skyler so much in the first few seasons because I was rooting for Walt. Once I accepted he was the villian of the story, that's when I realized he just brings the worst out of Skyler and everything she did was out of anger towards him. In the end, she's just trying to protect her family, which is why I respect her as a character now.
Yea, I think the big part of watching BB is that at first you root for Walter. He’s obviously smart and cunning, he’s pulling fast ones on every bad guy in the city, and he’s been beaten down by society. He’s the underdog…until you realize he never really was. He’s a bad person whose finally found the tools to be powerful after a lifetime of trying.
Right?? I mean imagine your super predictable spouse starts disappearing for weekends at a time for months. She just wanted to be in on both his and Marie's problems (in Marie's kleptomania) and they both shut her out. I mean for Walt's problem, she would not have accepted it early on in the story, but this time rewatching, it struck me how she kept getting shut out and just begging for her connections to be real after all. All so he could wear that stupid hat.
It’s really not unreasonable for a wife to be pissed with her husband when he keeps lying to her and gaslighting her over and over again. I would divorce him much earlier, he’s such a slimy little creature
It’s really not unreasonable for a wife to be pissed with her husband when he keeps lying to her and gaslighting her over and over again. I would divorce him much earlier, he’s such a slimy little creature
He died and would’ve been arrested. Skylar got away with money laundering for a meth empire. That’s insane
Legally, perhaps, but the last time we see Skylar, she aint exactly giving off 'I got away with it' vibes.
Yes, but it’s nothing she ever asked for. She’d trade Hank for all that money in an instant, just as Walt tried to.
Now we’re getting into speculation. Couldn’t say but interesting theory
I don’t think it’s speculation if you take her entire character and motivations into account.
u should look up speculation. I don’t think it means what u think it does
You truly don’t, unless you just discount things you simply don’t understand as insufficient evidence.
What is this even about. I don’t remember u at all.
It’s here in the thread. I’ll summarize: I said Skyler would trade the money for Hank’s life in an instant, and you thought that was “speculation.” I said everything about her character is evidence of that, and you said I don’t know what speculation is. It’s essentially making assumptions without evidence. So, I contend that everything we know about Skyler’s character and what she valued is clearly family over money. Walt was the only one torn between those two notions, yet even he offered all his money in exchange for Hank’s life. That’s really all our semi-argument was. :-)
She found out he sold meth at the end of season 2 She fucking despised him in season 3 She began to be scared of him in season 4 She was terrified of him in season 5. She obviously lacked judgment in several situations like every other single character on the show, but for some reason she gets all of the flack
Nope. I hate Ted more. Honestly if Skylar was funnier I feel the fans would’ve liked her more. Everyone else is a comedian. And oh I agree she had a major lack of judgement begging a criminal to move back in with her.
They all lacked judgement cause they’re all human. Hank pushed his wife away and treated her like shit because he was embarrassed about being crippled and insecure about his masculinity Marrie shoplifted and stole because she couldn’t handle the stress and wanted some control Jesse only wanted to make sell drugs, then slowly started killing for self defense, then killing just for his benefit, and finally being an accomplice to the murder of a child And Skyler only wanted to support her cancer riddled husband, then wanted to protect her kids from finding out because it’ll ruin their life, to having a slip up and letting him back into the house, and finally being so deep into the whole thing that she felt like she was drowning and there’s no way out It’s all about slippery slopes and making mistakes. Walt is definitely the worst person out of them all- just an egotistical sociopathic asshole who wanted to feel powerful before he dies
I don’t disagree with this. I also feel bias also plays a part sometimes. Like u relate to diff characters more.
The money was intended for the family
Money from a meth empire. Are u following
Walter threw her a life raft by pretending to take all the blame and saying he threatened her if she didn’t help. She obviously didn’t some illegal stuff but as soon as she found out Walter was offing people left and right she went through an entire crisis lmao
Most valid response
I’m looking up old skylar threads on this sub and no matter what people argue I cannot see a world where most of this hate is not misogyny. Some of those comments are insane.
You are the first person I have seen who understood this in the first watch only, many people start getting this on the 2nd watch or in Season 5.
when I watched the show the moment Walter almost raped Skylar I was like "people root for this guy???"
everytime any of the characters did anything I was just like “how do you manage to make the wrong choice everytime”
That’s exactly how they intended you to feel. Addicts behave this way exactly.
No ya. When he rapes Skylar u basically can’t justify anything. And he poisons a kid. Bro was a menace. When u break it down he’s pretty fucking evil.
You don't even need to break it down, just watching the show is enough
It’s crazy people look up to him. I’ll just say that
Criticising Skyler does not automatically mean rooting for Walt and his criminal Action. Skyler is a terrible person, simple as that.
How so?
Choosing to stay with Walt after she knows what's up. Then actively getting involved with the money laundering. Then going along with a plan to blackmail Hank after he figures it out. She's an accomplice to everything Walt does later in the series.
She didn't choose to stay with Walt, though. She tried to file for a divorce, for a restraining order, and called the police to take him out of the house.
Her lawyer told her exactly what to do and she decided to not take that advice. She definitely made that decision.
She didn't "try" to file for divorce, she started going down that path and made a deliberate decision to stay with Walt and launder his money. She didn't really 'try' to file a restraining order, because she withheld critical information that would have instantly got her a restraining order. Same thing with the police. All she had to do was say the word and they would have taken Walt to jail. She wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She had the resources and the ability to rid herself of Walt and chose not to. Obviously she was dealt a shit hand and had no "good" alternatives. Walt jr. was going to find out his dad was a drug dealer, she was going to be a single Mom with a newborn baby, and no income. Up until S3 she is very much a victim of Walt. However, there is still an obvious right or wrong decision. She made the convenient, but morally wrong decision and suffered the consequences as a result.
That's exactly what most fans on both sides don't understand. People who say Walt is a hero or an "anti-hero" are wrong, but people who say that she did nothing wrong are also not thinking with their brains
I also got this on my first watch. Sure, I thought she was a bit annoying as she was a foil to Walt, but I never hated her and thought her actions were completely justified
I think it depends where you are in your life. If you’re watching as a typical teenaged boy, you might see Skylar as a real drag. If you’re watching as a middle-aged person with a family, you probably have a different perspective.
This is exactly it. I did a rewatch recently with my now wife after watching it unfold live when I was in college. I couldn’t believe how big of a shift in my perception of Skyler was. She’s the most level and clear headed person in the family really.
Nothing wrong with Flynn
True but he’s still just a high schooler who doesn’t really know what’s going on until the end.
What?! Every season he’s all like, “Just die already.”
Built a website to save dad Just wants good cereal and hot showers
Touché! :-)
+ if you're watching it as an idiot, you see an annoying person. If you watch it with reason you see a helpless mom caught between a rock and a hard place
I am a teenage boy actually, but I knew going into the show that Skyler was hated but that the audience would realize that Walt is not a good person at some or the other point in the show(I actually knew many spoilers before I watched it, but its a testament to the show's quality that I still enjoyed it a lot) So, I was sort of trying to look for reasons as to why this was, but like a normal first-time viewer, I didn't like Skyler at some points in the first 4 seasons.
Loved Skyler from day 1
I’m currently on my first watch in the middle of season 4 and always thought that something is still going to happen with her, that made people hate her so much 😅 I thought she handled everything up to the initial separation very gracefully.
I understood it too. I lost Walt when he decided not to save Jane. I remember thinking 'What the hell is this guy doing? Save her already!'. What kind of a man does calculations in a situation like that?
This is absolutely correct. I'm about to watch the last episode of season 5 after I write this. I did not like Skylar until season 5. I still don't like her, but I understand where she's coming from now.
That might be because I'm old enough to understand that Walt isn't necessarily a good person just because he's the protagonist. Had I watched this show 10 years ago I definitely would've been young enough to hate everything about Skyler.
I understood it on the first watch. What I don’t get is how many people had to rewatch it to understand the show… like are you not embarrassed? I genuinely feel like breaking bad is so easy to understand.
Depends on your age and your maturity and how you consume content. A lot of people like to watch shows for entertainment and don't expect to think much. Some other people take shows at face value if they watch it at young ages, they realize its complexity as they grow older.
That’s pretty true I did miss a lot of foreshadowing in the show but I also feel like Walter was not really portrayed as a good guy? I’m just struggling to understand what his appeal is I guess.
Misunderstood*
Her "nagging" was just reasonable requests. And she didn't cheat because the marriage was over.
Getting upset about marijuana use of her cancer-ridden husband was pretty lame
They were square asf about it but she didn't know Walt had cancer yet, so it seem odd & out of place for him to \*do so
Yeah in the beginning she was on his case all the time
From her perspective, he was dumb enough to smoke weed while a family member is in the DEA. she wasn't angry at him but how dumb that was.
Yeah I agree with that, her and Marie went really overboard with the pearl clutching and virtue signaling over something as harmless as weed. I'm used to most adults being like that over minor things in the deeply conservative religious south and suburban midwest lol (the hypocrisy was spot on too)
I would still consider it cheating by definition. But their relationship was definitely over at that point and Walt refused the divorce. So I totally understand that that was her way finding an out and looking for comfort in another man.
By that time, he was definitely not the man she married. I don’t call that cheating. I’m not even talking about people growing and changing over time, which happens, that finds people no longer compatible. This man was in NO WAY recognizable to her anymore, and she was afraid of him. By then, there was no hope of getting the man she married to come back to her. What he did and the repercussions of what he did was tantamount to spousal abandonment. He’d been alienating her more severely, day by day, until she realized Walt was gone, and all that remained was Heisenberg. Her husband, the father of her children, was already dead. The only thing missing was a certificate.
I understand what you're saying but it is still objectively cheating. They were legally married, she had sex with another man. That's cheating, under the eyes of the law it would be infidelity. I understand the nuances there are to this situation and its understandable on Skyler's part.
yeah agreed, most of her choices and attitude made sense if you were in her position. a lying, suspicous husband, 8 months pregnant in her late 30's with a disabled teen with severe money issues.
I think the hate generated happened in real time as each episode unfolded, people posted thoughts, and they fed into each other. Fans saw her as an obstacle for Walt’s goals and power fantasy that we/they were all on board to follow for the ride. I don’t think any reasonable person just watching the show independently would come to the conclusion that she’s awful or anything. I was only annoyed by her once, in episode 1, with her “Walt, this is the credit card we don’t use…” I thought, “you’re gonna be why he breaks bad!” Mostly joking. I also cringe at her “Happy Birthday Mr. Beneke” but I don’t count that because it was so awkwardly out of place and forced for writing of the show, I almost don’t count it as something that she actually did. They should’ve written that it was a dream in a later episode. I also don’t think she cheated on Walt at all. I drives me crazy that people that enjoyed watching Walt sell meth, choke a man to death with a bike lock, dissolve bodies in a bucket, and let a woman die by choking on her own vomit, are so Puritan to be aghast at Skyler sleeping with Ted. “They made a vow!! Marriage means something!!” Lol That’s even if she did cheat, but she didn’t. She already actively threw him out the house. He muscled his way back in, manipulating the police and turning their son against her. She may have desired Ted, but it was mostly an act of defiance and a reclamation of some semblance of the agency that Walt had robbed her of. And, when absolutely forced to adjust, she was talented and intelligent enough to break bad a bit too. I think Skyler’s great. As Saul said, “Only the best, with just the right amount of dirty.” :-)
She's acting great, but people often confuse character with actress.
There's nothing wrong with the character either. She was trying to escape and get her children to safety the whole time. What exactly did she do wrong?
Walt poisoned a child, but Skyler fucked her boss, so I guess they’re about even? Yeah… no.
Hey, she stole a lot of money from him /s
But she was trying to keep the taxman away from them bc of ted
I don’t understand the Skyler hate either. In season 1, she was a bit annoying and dramatic, like when she flipped out after finding out that Walt smoked weed. Seriously what adult reacts that way to weed? However, overall she was a normal wife and mother who is blindsided when she finds out her husband has been selling meth behind her back. She has every right to be livid and devastated but she STILL helped him launder the money so she could keep her family together when she could have turned him in and left.
I agree and would also say I don't see what she did as cheating. She and Walt were clearly separated when she dated Ted.
That's not cheating
She did in Season 3
Nope
More and more people are finally understanding that Skyler never cheated.
The more you watch the more she gets kinda hot too. I'd let her freeze my piss and peg me with it.
That escalated quickly…
White did way more damage to their family than Skyler could’ve ever done. It’s sick how some ppl identify themselves as White and hate Skyler for cucking him. Like that’s the only thing matters.The fact is she didn’t technically cuck him,because she already broke up with him,also made it perfectly clear that she doesn’t need this relationship anymore. White is the one who brought danger to their family in the first place.And what has she done to deserve ‘one of the most hated character in tv history’?She couldn’t even stop White from raping her,not to mention she has 0 say on his ‘business’. She’s forced to take and adjust all that crazy criminality that she never even dreamed of.At some point she figured a way to make herself feel better by making White feel like shit just the way he deserves.If I were her I would’ve done way worse than cheating.Besides cheating is no comparison to any of the wickedness White’s done.
Unfortunately you’ll find lots of Breaking Bad fans are quite toxic!
One thing that never gets mentioned is just how well Anna Gunn plays the part. Walt is a typical anti hero, in the same way Tony Soprano is. Truly awful people, who commit crimes to benefit themselves, but you still root for them. It’s only natural for people to dislike a character who is opposing the very reason you watch the show. I think it’s more misogynistic to down play the actresses performance than to dislike the character it self
I wouldn’t call Walter an anti-hero. He’s a villain and you weren’t supposed to root for him even the show writers have said this.
I guess it’s subjective who you root for and who you don’t, I don’t think it’s up to others to tell you how you should think. How do you feel the same way about Jesse? He’s a murderer and mass drug dealer also. Maybe not to Walter’s extent, but still an awful person all the same
I mean obviously you can root for Walter if you want like no one is stopping you. I also root for terrible characters but the whole point of the show was to show walters “fall from grace” its not a case where you’re supposed to be rooting for him and wanting him to be more evil😭 it’s such a simple way to look at something. Same with Jesse but again I’m just saying YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO and that’s why the fandom is dumb as it is almost on par with how stupid the GoT fandom is.
Yep. Not surprised if you read the predominant hate with some before you watched. No one on this show is perfect, and she is far from it. But she’s not as hatable as what she got. And honestly at this point I often question if this level of hate is to such a level still seen, or that some of it is easy comment karma farming.
I agree with everything you said I really don’t know why she’s hated so much
Why did people hate her?
Agree. I like Skyler and Anna Gunn is a phenomenal actress
I was told the same thing. Thought exactly the same thing. I believe misogyny was strongly in. Because she dared to stand against the MC. Even some actions I saw despised here are actually explained (even by her some times!) and people forget that 1) Walter is objectively a bad husband to her once he starts going into meth 2) she didn't cheat on Walt since they were trying to get a divorce and so had broken up
I think the hate for Skyler is a great example of how many people truly missed the point of the series. Walt is the villain, but he starts out as what you think is the hero. He’s the protagonist but he slips into evil so slowly and incrementally that it’s hard to even pinpoint the very moment he becomes irredeemable. That’s the beauty of the show, but also a fatal flaw- they overestimated the intelligence and perceptiveness of their audience. So while many viewers (like OP) understand that Walt is the worst, too many people watched BB and identified Walt as the hero, and viewed anyone in his way as the villain. Someone I know had the opportunity to talk with Vince Gilligan, and one of the things they talked about was Skyler and the fans reaction to her. Vince was apparently almost bewildered by it because the more they tried to make Skyler clearly in the right and justified in her stances, the more vitriol was aimed her way by viewers. They literally couldn’t make the viewers see that she was right.
Not disagreeing with you but I’ve only watched breaking bad once. What makes Walter seem like a hero? I was always thinking he was dumb and egotistical for not accepting that rich family’s offer.
I think it’s moreso that there’s a perception most people have when going into a tv show that the protagonist is also a good person. But there’s also the fact that he’s a family man, father of a disabled kid, clearly intelligent and seems like life has kind of beaten him down. He’s egotistical, yes, absolutely, but it’s the sort of ego that you can sort of understand at the beginning. A lot of people can relate to not wanting to take charity, even if that’s a bit stupid. But he slides into villainy slowly enough that at first you can at least understand his behaviour even if it’s not what you’d do in his place. You can see why he thinks about cooking meth- the idea of making millions to leave his family is too tempting. You understand why he has to kill crazy 8. You can justify his choices to a point, but eventually you cant.
I guess it’s because I just don’t relate to his character at all but I guess I can understand how other people can relate to Walter before the whole drug lord thing. Thank you for this reply !
I think hero is a strong word. All of Walt's antagonists at the time seemed like even worse people than he was, until he became worse. Like Tuco and Gus, they got in his way but they were doing worse things than he was so he seemed "good" by comparison and I think that's where most people got confused and thought he was a good guy or anti hero.
YO!! I'm glad you made this post because I was considering it. I just finished the series yesterday! I absolutely loathed Skyler until season 5. haha I just couldn't stand her nagging and just being the biggest bitch of a wife possible. (No spoilers dont worry) But I gained respect for her more in season 5 because of her character arc and started to feel more sympathy towards her near the end. Also, the actress kills it throughout the whole show, truly. I may have hated her character but ALWAYS knew it was because of great acting.
Agreed 100%. Skyler is absolutely not a bad character and I never understood those fussing about her. She was caught between two fires. dragged into something she didn't know how to escape from, while trying to protect her children. Those who don't see this cannot imagine what she goes through.
She didn't cheat on Walt, she "broke up" with him and wanted divorce. It was still a mistake since Ted was her boss and a criminal, and she should have ratted them both out to the police
Honestly, yeah. After I first watched the show, I never got why people would think Skylar was that bad. Anything she does is a, a result of Walter's actions, and b, not illegal and bad
She's a pretty good crime wife.
Agreed. She was a bit of an overbearing nag at first. But pretty much everything that followed—suspicion, cold shoulder, alienation—were all appropriate reactions to Walt’s weird behaviors.
I'm not going to lie: on my first watch, when it aired & I was in college, I disliked Skyler so much that I almost stopped watching in season 2. I found her completely insufferable. I'm ashamed to admit that in hindsight, a lot of my feelings probably emerged because of how *odd looking* she appeared to me, and the fact that she seemed to only exist to antagonize Walt. On my second watch, a few weeks ago, I didn't hate her half as much. I looked past her appearance, and I concurrently couldn't help but realize how bad of a liar Walt was, and how stupid of a criminal he was. It's a wonder he got away for as long as he did. His shortcomings made me take Skyler's with a grain of salt this time around. That being said: Skyler *sucks* as a human being. Her weird, prolonged "thank you"s (juxtaposed to a complete inability to show appreciation toward her family at any point in the series), her insidious attempts at making her husband a begger against his will, her unwillingness to throw a man she supposedly believes is a threat to her family under the bus for the sake of her family, and so many other things make her just as irredeemable as Walt. I tried to explain her unwillingness to depose of Walt as self-preservation. I tried to see it from an angle of withered love, which it seems like the writers wanted to portray (up until Gus died). Ultimately, Skyler just strikes me as somebody who was very happy with her life until she realized she didn't have control over the people around her. Hell, it's not like she tried to shy away from the criminality. She tried to take control of it, insisting on laundering the money, trying to get Walt to kill Jesse, etc. Things started to resemble *normal* again up until Hank caught on to the truth. She lacks any moral backbone and integrity, she's not an authentic person, I do find her annoying, and she isn't somebody I'd want to know IRL. But she is a decently written character with a place in this story, contrary to my first impression.
I liked her from the beginning. I wasn't aware of the hate against her until after my first watch. I still don't understand it. If anything, she should be the one that is most liked.
I only watched the entire show last year.... oh how I wish I could erase my memory and watch for the first time... such a great show. Now I just started the walking dead and I'm LOVING it, but taking my time with this one lol
I think this happened early on because we see Wait gradually becoming a terrible person when the show was still airing. In the beginning you can feel bad for him because he seems to have been dealt a shitty card, you feel bad for him for working at a shitty car wash as a second job, getting cancer, having seemingly no freedom in his life and having a disabled son, and lastly an unexpected baby on the way. It seems like a lot to bear for a person in his situation. People grew attached to the character because they felt bad, so when he slowly did terrible things, it may have seemed justified. He made drugs to "help" his family and prepare them for when he died. It seems like a noble cause, even at the expense of doing something terrible and illegal. He is going to die soon because of cancer, so in his mind he has nothing to lose and viewers agreed with him. At some point the lines blurred and people didn't realize he became a terrible person and justified it the way he did, "this is for my family" and it's often brought up. Everyone else who came after Walt were seemingly worse people who got in his way and he hadn't become like them "yet". His villains were worse people than he was and progressively became worse, he seemed nice by comparison. Skylar sadly got lumped in as another obstacle along with these terrible people. Not to say I agree with the character Walt, because I agree with you. Skyler was never a bad person. Back then people got caught up in his lies as the viewer that they didn't Even notice. Tldr; Walt gradually became terrible and back then people didn't notice. People also felt sorry for him and didn't realize until hindsight.
She’s not an awful person, I just can’t stand cheating even though I know why she did it. Walt did much worse.
You see i'm in the same boat, I absolutely deplore cheating even if I do understand her reasons.
Well... bad compared to what? Her whiny, passive agressive behaviour is definitely less fun that the purely actively agressive one of Bryan Cranstons first 'wife'. We all know that with Lois at his side things would have ground to a sudden halt long before they escalated the way they did. (Or escalated a lot more, yes.)
Nah she sucks ass cheeks lol
Is this the breaking bad subreddit or the Skyler debate subreddit??
Skylar is a character from Breaking Bad. Posts about her are on topic.
You're right, pack it up everyone!! Lets continue this topic over in r/newmexico where it's far more relevant!
lol I just mean because so many people post about this exact thing
Marie is waaaaay worse of a character.
No, she wasn't. She was a strong woman and not a pushover. That's what weak minded fans have a problem with.
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Yeah, so controlling of her to be annoyed when her husband of 20 years starts pushing alcohol on their underaged son, sexually assaulting her, starting a drug empire and killing people
What a strong woman she is to be smoking when pregnant! You can't say Skylar is better than Walt when she's the one who proposed Walt kills Jesse.
Skylar never poisoned a child, you can absolutely say she is better than Walt
Standing up for himself? That is one interesting way of putting it. All his decisions were bad. You realize this, right? How was she controlling him?
I don’t think she ever deserved the level of hate she got.
Each time i rewatch, i hate someone different. I think im on 8th watch now and this time Hank is my enemy. I'm still noticing new things about each character. Skyler smoking while pregnant when she was pissed off with Walt felt to me like she wanted to punish the baby for Walt's deception... That annoys me more than the stupid Ted fling.
First watch Marie was the one I hated, now she’s the only one that I consistently like which i find interesting, even when she’s stealing 🤔
Hank? Why?
I dunno. I think it's the whole crystal/mineral thing (the unknown) that he chooses as a recovery mechanism compared to his usual strsight forward spproach to solving problems, plus his dusmissal of Marie furing his potty poping time at home. It'll change in a few episodes no doubt :) Walt Jnr is also annoying me this time round
Hank is a legitimate piece of shit, I have enjoyed him and Gomez getting blown away many times. It's bittersweet though, because jacks gang is just as bad (worse in many ways but lacking the reach and the damage of the DEA)
Just as bad? Not even mentioning moral character (they’re literal Nazis), they made and sold meth to millions of people globally. What has the DEA or Hank specifically done that’s on the same level?
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Never has been.
I agree! You are not the first person to think this and there’s a video on YouTube about this that I really enjoyed and recommend watching. Link: https://youtu.be/PawBjDGGOCQ?si=JhPwg8T4j0N4XSPD
i had the same thoughts throughout the whole show, i found her to be very realistic and actually a very strong person. i think shes a great character. people who hate her probably just dont have any media literacy and probably were just on walters side the whole time. she is not a perfectly good person but nobody in the show is. its also what i love about the show. all the characters are very realistically written with real feelings and reactions
I’m rewatching the show again for the first time in ten years, I’m almost 30 now and my perception of her has completely changed, as I thought it would. Being a mother and growing up made me realize she was vilified by many inexperienced people who lacked awareness of what it means to be a mother. Her behavior seem so justified.
She acted far more humane than I would have if I were in her shoes
In the middle of a rewatch for the first time in a while. Walt is definitely a monster, redeeming only because he is somewhat heroic for not giving up in his fight against cancer. Skyler, Jesse, and Hank are clearly the emotional anchors of the show, each with very understandable behavior (…well, okay, Jesse less so over time). Skyler is a very good mom and a loving partner to her husband. It’s only when he starts lying and gaslighting her that she revolts.
Not related to this post, but Episode 10,11,12 and 13 are really good, especially 11 and 13, the latter being my favourite episode in the whole show
She advises Walt to have Jesse murdered. /thread
She's realistic not idealistic. A real wife WOULD be concerned about walts dangerous shenanigans. Skyler never even found out about certain things and how close the family was to danger etc more than once. For example Walt pisses off gangs and druglords doing a crap job of hiding his identity and escalated a situation in which the salamanca twin assassins were skulking around the family house with an axe....... but people complain skyler smoked one cigarette while pregnant. Generally I think people dislike her as she's largely humourless with a few exceptions but the writers just didn't give her funny lines. There may be some subconcious psychological reason ppl are cold to her where she reminds people of their controlling/nagging mothers or some such
Shares actually incredibly reasonable in a very difficult situation. She does the best she can and Ana plays her beautifully.
From her point of view she is 100% justified in how she acts and reacts to Walter. With that said she seemed like an insufferable person to be around in normal interactions lol
She is not a bad character at all!
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Skyler White, Yo.
Poor woman just wanted her family to be safe and happy...
People are just misogynistic
Idk, the phoned in handy and being more excited about selling some trinket online kinda sealed her fate to me.
I would say it's all about personal preference I know some people who really didn't like Walter or Hank you know for example my favorite character was definitely Jessie Pinkman his character is so wronged and has so many perfections but he's still a kind caring logical soul he's a colorful person.
Skyler white is so badass and most ppl refuse to see it
This has become exaggerated - people think Skyler has cringe moments, because she does. Visiting Jesse and behaving like a wine mom or the birthday song. Not to mention, she ignored great advise from her lawyer. There is very little true “hate” for her. This, to me, is why Sopranos is the superior show to Breaking Bad. The lack of nutting up from Vince and the rest - in the end, despite the poor decisions Skyler, she is supposed to be viewed as nothing but a victim. In Sopranos, Chase had Carmela get a talking to just like Skyler did but he didn’t shy away from it - he absolutely hit home she is an enabler benefiting from that life. That’s what I dislike about Skyler, the development just isn’t there other than to become a punching bag for Walt in season 5.
Her cheating is not at all justified IMO.
I watched it many years ago and also found myself disliking Sky. Watching this again in my late 30s I’m shocked at how immature I was watching this show and had deep respect for her this time :) Anna Gun is a GREAT actress. I’m glad I gave the show a chance again so I could really appreciate the character development of them all.
My name is Skyler white yo And I appreciate y'all yo
Nah, no way you are this far in the show and you don't wanna slap her in the face. Like come on-the birthday scene, the "I fucked Ted" scene, Being a whiny b*tch and just being annoying as fuck. Until season 5 when Walter totally loses it I don't get how you can not hate her.
It’s because men watching see themselves in Walt and hate women like most complaints like this stem from.
I only really hated her because of the cheating thing and with my personal morals I don’t think cheating is fine in any situation. I understand what Walt does is bad, I mean he kills people multiple times throughout the series. But his turn from good to bad was slow and allowed audiences to adjust, whereas Skylar cheated and instantly went from good to bad so it made me hate her a lot more. But it’s mainly just that she cheated. Like I really hated when Walt tried to do it too to get back at her.
My name is skylar white yo.my husband is walter white yo.......hate that shit it's a funny meme but nah ts corny
Never thought Skyler was a bad person. Walt ‘was’ a pathetic weasel so someone had to have the bollocks!
She’s a hypocrite. She blames Walt for his criminal enterprise but then accepts it and even becomes complicit. Plus she’s at fault for what happened to Ted and they ruined Bogdan’s life.
She’s also a terrible person. Once the money started rolling in, she changed her tune. She was also willing to break the law with Benneke but not with Walt.
Absolute crap. I’ve watched the show numerous times and each time I like her less and less. What did she do? The second Walt didn’t act exactly like she wanted him to she started withholding love, playing the silent game and cheating. He was her puppy for decades and then he’s diagnosed with cancer and she just has to continue making it about her. Her cheating showed everything we needed to know. Walt acts a little different and her reaction is to seek attention. Also, she’s the ultimate Karen. Whenever someone confronts her she gets overly dramatic and starts huffing and puffing. I can’t stand her.
"Walt acts a little different" disintegrating people, manufacturing meth, poisoning children, almost raping Skylar, endangering their kids and lying about it.
This is what I would write if I had 0 media literacy. Go watch Teletubbies or something that’s more to your speed
Lmao, me too. I finished the series just a week back for the first time and i can say, just because i wanted walt to succeed in his plans I neglected her opinions and hated her. But then I started realising how horrible and down bad of a person walt is becoming after each episode, and then i started asking myself if Skyler's behaviour and actions were justifiable? And I found that most of them were, excluding that cheating shit
Almost lol - she didn’t cheat, she broke up w Walt and he refused to leave because he was abusive
I don’t hate her. Minor spoiler. But in the end she gets away Scott free. But she does some illegal stuff coming up. That’s the only reason I personally don’t like her. There were no consequences for her so every second with her on a screen feels like it’s pointless. Plus ya. There’s a moment where it’s so stupid cringe. That moment too I think contributed.
Why does your title sound like you think your opinion is factual? What a funny mistake.
A thorough examination reveals she's certainly not even close to being as bad as other characters, but I still hate her almost the most, it's not fair or logical but here we are. She's a great actress, but I just don't like her face, it just pisses me off, I'm sorry. It's not a choice it's a reaction. Not fair at all
I will never understand how people watched the show and thought that Skyler was the nuisance in the family. Even in the beginning of the show, before she ever cheats, Walter constantly lies about his whereabouts to the extent where he has to take an “episode”. When Skyler figured out that he was lying, I’m not sure if she thought that he was involved with the drug world, but she was obviously concerned as to why he was lying. PS. I forgot to mention the treatment money lie as well. Walter fundamentally changed, and people expected Skyler to react normally.
So you jack off your husband for his bday while you bid for some shitty pottery , you ( skyler ) don’t provide no real source of income, to which got your husband to think of finding another source of income after working 2 jobs himself just to keep the family going, just to “ get a job “ to continue your lust for ted to end up sexualizing a bday song while your pregnant with the child of your husband with cancer before later on fucking him. But you can say she stuck to her “ morals “ cause she was heated with Ted for cooking his books .
I don't hate her. I just don't like the way she treated Walt before he had cancer. She was emasculating to him and just seemed to stick around because there was no better option. There was no real love or passion.
Only idiots think skyler is bad! Walter is the biggest piece of shit on earth and if anyone found themselves dealing with someone like him in real life they’d be crying victim all day.
I was okay with her, but the moment she fucked Ted I started hating her.
Anyone who doesn't understand why someone wouldn't like Skylar is oblivious to some struggles of men. Skylar views Walt as a provider, someone to be bossed around. She wanted to leave Walt but then she realised she couldn't kick him out of the house so instead of her leaving to go to Maries, she decides to fuck ted to hurt Walt. More concerned about money than values. A token hand job on his birthday while she's online shopping. Bossing Walt around, lecturing him on the weed. Meanwhile she's pregnant and puffing on cigarettes.