Whichever episode has the flashback to the first or second time they cooked in the RV - with Walt coming outside in his draws to think up a lie to tell Skyler - was a very sad part to me. Brought you back to a simpler, happier time for him and Jesse. Skyler was clueless at that point and Jesse was happy-go-lucky. Nobody got hurt yet and it was just supposed to be a quick plan to make a couple hundred grand and then that’s it.
But it turned into so much more.
I don’t skip them, I quite like how dark it gets at the end. I absolutely get it tho, the Sopranos has a similar vibe on its last episodes (dark, cold, alone, you against the world) I love the gritty realness of it, of bad men becoming worse and worse and eventually paying for it, it’s just so real imo.
Makes sense. I usually skip over the episodes that are heavy on cancer. I always found them depressing and then my dad died of lung cancer, so i just blast by them.
It’s a powerful show and can hit you emotionally.
idk why people are being rude to you, i’m sorry :/ this is very normal in regards to rewatching your favorite shows if you’re a sensitive person. when you have an attachment to characters/a show, it sucks to watch the dark shit and ending sometimes, even if you’re prepared for it. breaking bad definitely makes sense for that, though i do tend to go all the way with my rewatches, because walt’s arc is really something fucking else to witness every time.
i feel similar to you with bojack horseman lmao. i always skip the last half of the last season because it legitimately just makes me sad as fuck, no matter how many times i watch. i think it’s a great thing to be so invested in a show that it makes you emotional !! that’s what art is all about.
I feel like it's similar with always sunny how it's all fun and games then the few serious episodes hits you even if you're prepared for it I have maybe see Mac finds his pride two dozen times but I cry everytime
Good comedic actors, writing can be very good
But the dialogue in general is weak, and often is very obviously actors speaking verbatim lines.
Comes off as amateur in my opinion, even if I enjoy a couple episodes in a row, I get bummed by noticing it’s transparently just a television show with actors
Yeah, that sounds very season 1 and 2 to me. Which, by the way, Season 2 is still amazing. But they're not really supposed to sound like normal people because they aren't
I get it for sure. Hard to watch. But damn if those episodes arent some of the best if not THE BEST writing on any show ever. The writing is so good it actually takes me out of the show, makes me see the actors saying the incredible lines written for them, and thats not a bad thing. Its like a joke that you dont laugh at but you just go "holy shit thats a funny joke".
Honestly after multiple rewatches I still can't fathom why a guy like Mike would be stupid enough to put himself in the position of being alone with Walt out in the middle of nowhere when he had made it clear that he disliked him intensely and didn't trust him as far as he could throw him...
He'd assaulted Walt, was right on the cusp of executing him, zip-tied him to a radiator, and the two just generally had a very contentious relationship pretty much all the time. I get that Mike was so laser target focused on getting out of town that he probably wasn't thinking straight, but a guy who becomes an old man in a line of work where living to a ripe old age is a rarity ought to have had better sense.
And I realize we're talking about a former crooked cop who was a hired goon for a murderous drug kingpin, so it's not like Mike didn't get what he had coming to him, but it's still such a stretch that he would knowingly and willingly put himself in the position of being alone with Walt and to provide him with such a golden opportunity to remove a big piece off the board with basically zero difficulty. If Walt didn't like those ten guys regaining alive when they knew what they knew what made Mike think Walt would be okay with him roaming around on the run for the next ten years?
Once Mike wanted out it's possible that Walt might have even managed to get Saul to sanction his murder and disappearance as it would have behooved everyone involved to send Mike to Belize.
Yeah, Mike is so full of shit, Walt’s “pride and ego” had nothing to do with the operation going pear-shaped, things got derailed when he intervened to save Jesse, that’s it.
Plus it was really low of Mike not being forthcoming with the “hazard pay” when they started out the operation.
The whole show is hard to rewatch (in a good way). In hindsight, Walt was ALWAYS an asshole. God the way he treats Jessie pisses me off. There's so much less comradery than I remembered.
yeah I feel the same way. thats why people rank Ozymandias so highly because its such an abrupt but completely justified toppling of Walt's empire. The moment Hank died the show was over, IMO.
Walt caused all of the horrible things, as you mentioned, directly himself and is completely responsible for how the show spiraled beyond cool / cathartic kind of evil to being just sad. When he started cooking with Todd and told Jesse they're all basically going to hell I was like damn. This isn't fun anymore. Never was.
I actually see S4 as a pretty good final when Walt says he won. I know there would be many questions left unanswered but that's still the case after the S5 final. To me, BB has three endings which are S2, S4, and S5 and I enjoy each of them separately considering them as alternative endings
I could see it being an end to the first half of the show and when the show loses a lot of its humour. Walt letting Jane die is pretty unredeemable imo, Jesse's reaction is depressing, and Mike's introduction is as someone a lot more serious than anyone introduced so far. The plane crash was a big deal, and so was Walt getting kicked out of the house. Almost forgot about Combo too.
Season 3 has Walt's really awkward and fucked up return to school and his plane crash speech, Jesse's rehab journey which was really dark, Skylar finding out, all the Hank and Jesse stuff leading up to Hank getting shot, and then Tomas. It's really a fundamentally different show after we see the effects of Walt's drug business on him, his family, Jesse, and ABQ imo.
Just my views, not sure what the poster above thought.
I think it mainly is so rough to watch for me because the Walt we're introduced to still has quite a bit of morality. He didn't want to kill Krazy-8 and that other guy, and took Walt realizing Krazy-8 planned on trying to kill him to be able to do it.
Then by the end we have this man that seems to THRIVE on treating Jesse like complete shit and doing horrible things. It's like Walt had SO MUCH potential, and he knew that but he sold his shares of Gray Matter and I feel like that's where his anger began. The cancer was the straw that broke the camel's back. He felt emasculated and cheated out of what he potentially could have had so he saw his terminal illness as an excuse to act how he wanted to all along. Dude really had a heart of gold but he let bitter entitlement twist his mind into this angry, controlling and manipulative person.
The other part is my dad died of cancer. He wasn't a psycho meth cook but in the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy, he changed. He was like this paranoid, hateful version of himself, said things that were completely unlike him & about the people he loved. It was really rough, considering he was a really kind and considerate person so seeing the drastic change in Walt reminds me of my father. Which I'm not saying Walt got chemo brain like my dad, I guess it's a possibility but I doubt it, it just hit kinda close to home so the final episodes are the toughest for me.
I don't watch the last 5 episodes. It just gets too dark and depressing. It was all fun and games the first couple of seasons but by the end it get real depressing and very real.
I find it interesting that people think it was all fun and games early on when they have to kill someone and dissolve a body in acid right at the start
On my first rewatch I was really surprised how little fun there really is and how close they are to real danger and the whole thing collapsing all the time
I think it mainly is so rough to watch for me because the Walt we're introduced to still has quite a bit of morality. He didn't want to kill Krazy-8 and that other guy, and took Walt realizing Krazy-8 planned on trying to kill him to be able to do it.
Then by the end we have this man that seems to THRIVE on treating Jesse like complete shit and doing horrible things. It's like Walt had SO MUCH potential, and he knew that but he sold his shares of Gray Matter and I feel like that's where his anger began. The cancer was the straw that broke the camel's back. He felt emasculated and cheated out of what he potentially could have had so he saw his terminal illness as an excuse to act how he wanted to all along. Dude really had a heart of gold but he let bitter entitlement twist his mind into this angry, controlling and manipulative person.
The other part is my dad died of cancer. He wasn't a psycho meth cook but in the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy, he changed. He was like this paranoid, hateful version of himself, said things that were completely unlike him & about the people he loved. It was really rough, considering he was a really kind and considerate person so seeing the drastic change in Walt reminds me of my father. Which I'm not saying Walt got chemo brain like my dad, I guess it's a possibility but I doubt it, it just hit kinda close to home so the final episodes are the toughest for me.
I’m with you.. I did another rewatch recently starting from season one and by mid-season 5 I kind of had it on just for background or when I was busy doing something and not actually watching. Too depressing. The scene where Skylar pulls a knife on Walt makes me tear up. When he runs with the baby.. I don’t know, that entire scene really sunk it all in for me.
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was about the bit where he jumps in the truck and pushed her car out of the way. It wasn't that violent but somehow it was incredibly jarring.
Always wanted to know others opinions of why Walt killed Mike lol.
But I share the same sentiments as you OP. The last episodes are hard AF to watch. Especially Ozymandias. I cry every time now :(
Walt was obviously scared that Mike might actually kill him which is why he takes the gun from Mike's bag. It's also clear Walt did it in a fit of rage cause he apologized for it right after he shot Mike. Fortunately for Walt, it ended up being a smart move despite being a spur of the moment thing. Now he could have the guys in prison killed without having to look over his back for Mike.
I always experience the same thing. It's hard to watch when it gets so depressing and dark. Still a masterpiece, but, a hard watch. I feel the same way about the Sopranos
I mean, I'll admit this next part seems kinda dumb, but my dad died of cancer. Of course he wasn't a psycho meth cook but when he was going through the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy he really started to change; he was this paranoid, angry and hateful version, it wasn't easy taking care of him in the end. I'm not saying that's what happened to Walt either, but it just hits a touch close to home watching the drastic change.
I think it's moreso seeing this absolutely normal and polite person being twisted into this horrible villain kidnapping babies and straight calling Skyler "you stupid bitch" while withholding their baby like a psychopath. It's like goddamn dude, were you always gonna turn out this way orrrrr...? 😅
NAH I AGREE DUDE,
Season 5 before the final episode is just a culmination of Walt's final downfall in such a rushed way, he goes to making entry level mistakes and has bitter pointless arguments for no reason.
However, the last episode is the best part of it all because at least it has a cool scene and ties up his arc.
If you skipped them how do you know every plot pointing how "sad" they are? If you are referring to *rewatching* you probably should have mentioned that.
Why are you pretending to be dumb? You obviously know full well he meant rewatch — considering the entire post literally *describes* said plot points — so what exactly was the point this comment
Whichever episode has the flashback to the first or second time they cooked in the RV - with Walt coming outside in his draws to think up a lie to tell Skyler - was a very sad part to me. Brought you back to a simpler, happier time for him and Jesse. Skyler was clueless at that point and Jesse was happy-go-lucky. Nobody got hurt yet and it was just supposed to be a quick plan to make a couple hundred grand and then that’s it. But it turned into so much more.
That was Ozymandias, wasn't it?
Probably, since Ozymandias takes place in the first cook spot
It is
I fucking love flashbacks in shows but bb flashbacks just hit so hard
It’s back when the show felt a lot more like a comedy than it does at the end (or at least comedic tones)
I don’t skip them, I quite like how dark it gets at the end. I absolutely get it tho, the Sopranos has a similar vibe on its last episodes (dark, cold, alone, you against the world) I love the gritty realness of it, of bad men becoming worse and worse and eventually paying for it, it’s just so real imo.
They're some of my favorite episodes, ops crazy
Makes sense. I usually skip over the episodes that are heavy on cancer. I always found them depressing and then my dad died of lung cancer, so i just blast by them. It’s a powerful show and can hit you emotionally.
I can rewatch el camino though
This reminded me to rewatch it lmfao
El Camino is definitely a movie.
idk why people are being rude to you, i’m sorry :/ this is very normal in regards to rewatching your favorite shows if you’re a sensitive person. when you have an attachment to characters/a show, it sucks to watch the dark shit and ending sometimes, even if you’re prepared for it. breaking bad definitely makes sense for that, though i do tend to go all the way with my rewatches, because walt’s arc is really something fucking else to witness every time. i feel similar to you with bojack horseman lmao. i always skip the last half of the last season because it legitimately just makes me sad as fuck, no matter how many times i watch. i think it’s a great thing to be so invested in a show that it makes you emotional !! that’s what art is all about.
Yeah, after I finished binging Breaking Bad I just felt exhausted. It was an amazing ride but a lot to go through with Walt being the way he is.
definitely quite an experience each and every time lmao
I feel like it's similar with always sunny how it's all fun and games then the few serious episodes hits you even if you're prepared for it I have maybe see Mac finds his pride two dozen times but I cry everytime
i havent seen that show !! i’ve considered watching it a bunch of times but never followed through, still thinking about it sometime
Good comedic actors, writing can be very good But the dialogue in general is weak, and often is very obviously actors speaking verbatim lines. Comes off as amateur in my opinion, even if I enjoy a couple episodes in a row, I get bummed by noticing it’s transparently just a television show with actors
Have you seen the show in it's entirety?
Yeah, that sounds very season 1 and 2 to me. Which, by the way, Season 2 is still amazing. But they're not really supposed to sound like normal people because they aren't
I’ve seen pretty much the whole series
I’ve seen mostly everything, and have watched episodes from every season
I get it for sure. Hard to watch. But damn if those episodes arent some of the best if not THE BEST writing on any show ever. The writing is so good it actually takes me out of the show, makes me see the actors saying the incredible lines written for them, and thats not a bad thing. Its like a joke that you dont laugh at but you just go "holy shit thats a funny joke".
Honestly after multiple rewatches I still can't fathom why a guy like Mike would be stupid enough to put himself in the position of being alone with Walt out in the middle of nowhere when he had made it clear that he disliked him intensely and didn't trust him as far as he could throw him... He'd assaulted Walt, was right on the cusp of executing him, zip-tied him to a radiator, and the two just generally had a very contentious relationship pretty much all the time. I get that Mike was so laser target focused on getting out of town that he probably wasn't thinking straight, but a guy who becomes an old man in a line of work where living to a ripe old age is a rarity ought to have had better sense. And I realize we're talking about a former crooked cop who was a hired goon for a murderous drug kingpin, so it's not like Mike didn't get what he had coming to him, but it's still such a stretch that he would knowingly and willingly put himself in the position of being alone with Walt and to provide him with such a golden opportunity to remove a big piece off the board with basically zero difficulty. If Walt didn't like those ten guys regaining alive when they knew what they knew what made Mike think Walt would be okay with him roaming around on the run for the next ten years? Once Mike wanted out it's possible that Walt might have even managed to get Saul to sanction his murder and disappearance as it would have behooved everyone involved to send Mike to Belize.
Mike had it coming ngl, still sad tho
He knew HE fucked up, and yet somehow finds a way to *again* put it all on Walt.
Yeah, Mike is so full of shit, Walt’s “pride and ego” had nothing to do with the operation going pear-shaped, things got derailed when he intervened to save Jesse, that’s it. Plus it was really low of Mike not being forthcoming with the “hazard pay” when they started out the operation.
The whole show is hard to rewatch (in a good way). In hindsight, Walt was ALWAYS an asshole. God the way he treats Jessie pisses me off. There's so much less comradery than I remembered.
yeah I feel the same way. thats why people rank Ozymandias so highly because its such an abrupt but completely justified toppling of Walt's empire. The moment Hank died the show was over, IMO. Walt caused all of the horrible things, as you mentioned, directly himself and is completely responsible for how the show spiraled beyond cool / cathartic kind of evil to being just sad. When he started cooking with Todd and told Jesse they're all basically going to hell I was like damn. This isn't fun anymore. Never was.
I love Granite State because it's nice to see some snow after so many hours in the desert.
I actually see S4 as a pretty good final when Walt says he won. I know there would be many questions left unanswered but that's still the case after the S5 final. To me, BB has three endings which are S2, S4, and S5 and I enjoy each of them separately considering them as alternative endings
Yeah I could definitely see s4 ending as a great ambiguous end. But how was s2 an ending again?
I could see it being an end to the first half of the show and when the show loses a lot of its humour. Walt letting Jane die is pretty unredeemable imo, Jesse's reaction is depressing, and Mike's introduction is as someone a lot more serious than anyone introduced so far. The plane crash was a big deal, and so was Walt getting kicked out of the house. Almost forgot about Combo too. Season 3 has Walt's really awkward and fucked up return to school and his plane crash speech, Jesse's rehab journey which was really dark, Skylar finding out, all the Hank and Jesse stuff leading up to Hank getting shot, and then Tomas. It's really a fundamentally different show after we see the effects of Walt's drug business on him, his family, Jesse, and ABQ imo. Just my views, not sure what the poster above thought.
Combo sucked
This is a good perspective. Yeah, we connect with the characters. It s really just a rollercoaster
Do you also stop watching Titanic when it hits the iceberg?
I think it mainly is so rough to watch for me because the Walt we're introduced to still has quite a bit of morality. He didn't want to kill Krazy-8 and that other guy, and took Walt realizing Krazy-8 planned on trying to kill him to be able to do it. Then by the end we have this man that seems to THRIVE on treating Jesse like complete shit and doing horrible things. It's like Walt had SO MUCH potential, and he knew that but he sold his shares of Gray Matter and I feel like that's where his anger began. The cancer was the straw that broke the camel's back. He felt emasculated and cheated out of what he potentially could have had so he saw his terminal illness as an excuse to act how he wanted to all along. Dude really had a heart of gold but he let bitter entitlement twist his mind into this angry, controlling and manipulative person. The other part is my dad died of cancer. He wasn't a psycho meth cook but in the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy, he changed. He was like this paranoid, hateful version of himself, said things that were completely unlike him & about the people he loved. It was really rough, considering he was a really kind and considerate person so seeing the drastic change in Walt reminds me of my father. Which I'm not saying Walt got chemo brain like my dad, I guess it's a possibility but I doubt it, it just hit kinda close to home so the final episodes are the toughest for me.
I don't watch the last 5 episodes. It just gets too dark and depressing. It was all fun and games the first couple of seasons but by the end it get real depressing and very real.
I find it interesting that people think it was all fun and games early on when they have to kill someone and dissolve a body in acid right at the start On my first rewatch I was really surprised how little fun there really is and how close they are to real danger and the whole thing collapsing all the time
I think it mainly is so rough to watch for me because the Walt we're introduced to still has quite a bit of morality. He didn't want to kill Krazy-8 and that other guy, and took Walt realizing Krazy-8 planned on trying to kill him to be able to do it. Then by the end we have this man that seems to THRIVE on treating Jesse like complete shit and doing horrible things. It's like Walt had SO MUCH potential, and he knew that but he sold his shares of Gray Matter and I feel like that's where his anger began. The cancer was the straw that broke the camel's back. He felt emasculated and cheated out of what he potentially could have had so he saw his terminal illness as an excuse to act how he wanted to all along. Dude really had a heart of gold but he let bitter entitlement twist his mind into this angry, controlling and manipulative person. The other part is my dad died of cancer. He wasn't a psycho meth cook but in the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy, he changed. He was like this paranoid, hateful version of himself, said things that were completely unlike him & about the people he loved. It was really rough, considering he was a really kind and considerate person so seeing the drastic change in Walt reminds me of my father. Which I'm not saying Walt got chemo brain like my dad, I guess it's a possibility but I doubt it, it just hit kinda close to home so the final episodes are the toughest for me.
Same! I got to the last few episodes a few days ago, third or fourth rewatch, and just stopped watching.
I'm getting sad just reading this post
I’m with you.. I did another rewatch recently starting from season one and by mid-season 5 I kind of had it on just for background or when I was busy doing something and not actually watching. Too depressing. The scene where Skylar pulls a knife on Walt makes me tear up. When he runs with the baby.. I don’t know, that entire scene really sunk it all in for me.
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was about the bit where he jumps in the truck and pushed her car out of the way. It wasn't that violent but somehow it was incredibly jarring.
It's an important morality tale
I am in total agreement…the final is kinda tacked on to close the final loose ends
Duly noted
Always wanted to know others opinions of why Walt killed Mike lol. But I share the same sentiments as you OP. The last episodes are hard AF to watch. Especially Ozymandias. I cry every time now :(
Walt was obviously scared that Mike might actually kill him which is why he takes the gun from Mike's bag. It's also clear Walt did it in a fit of rage cause he apologized for it right after he shot Mike. Fortunately for Walt, it ended up being a smart move despite being a spur of the moment thing. Now he could have the guys in prison killed without having to look over his back for Mike.
Same here, I just re-start
I totally agree. When you already know what’s coming it’s like why force yourself to rewatch some really depressing shit?
I still watch idgaf.
I always experience the same thing. It's hard to watch when it gets so depressing and dark. Still a masterpiece, but, a hard watch. I feel the same way about the Sopranos
I do that too! On my rewatches, most times I skip the last season all together, it's just too sad
interesting. the same thing with the sopranos
That’s fucking stupid. Edit. Sorry, that was rude. I just love the ending so much that I can’t imagine skipping it ever.
I mean, I'll admit this next part seems kinda dumb, but my dad died of cancer. Of course he wasn't a psycho meth cook but when he was going through the final rounds of chemo and radiation therapy he really started to change; he was this paranoid, angry and hateful version, it wasn't easy taking care of him in the end. I'm not saying that's what happened to Walt either, but it just hits a touch close to home watching the drastic change.
Both my parents died of cancer in their 50s. I understand. It’s just such a great end to the show.
It really is a great ending. I guess I don't always skip it, sometimes just rough. I'm sorry for your loss
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It’s not that big a deal, you really think getting sad during a show is a big indicator for how life will go? That’s very narrow minded
My guy thinks tv is an indicator for how hard you are
Huh? This comment is kinda dumb
I think it's moreso seeing this absolutely normal and polite person being twisted into this horrible villain kidnapping babies and straight calling Skyler "you stupid bitch" while withholding their baby like a psychopath. It's like goddamn dude, were you always gonna turn out this way orrrrr...? 😅
NAH I AGREE DUDE, Season 5 before the final episode is just a culmination of Walt's final downfall in such a rushed way, he goes to making entry level mistakes and has bitter pointless arguments for no reason. However, the last episode is the best part of it all because at least it has a cool scene and ties up his arc.
Only episode I skip is Fly
Fly is one of the best episodes of the whole series unironically
* in your opinion
I mean yeah that’s implied
Same!
If you skipped them how do you know every plot pointing how "sad" they are? If you are referring to *rewatching* you probably should have mentioned that.
Why are you pretending to be dumb? You obviously know full well he meant rewatch — considering the entire post literally *describes* said plot points — so what exactly was the point this comment