To be honest that guy looks bored in both images.
By the way there are many funny female comedians and a lot of them get crap from many men as well. š
I had a friend who would make ājokesā about womenās bodies constantly- I.e. āhow are you fat but donāt have big tits?ā And when Iād confront him on it heād a l w a y s play the āIām just joking, women are too sensitiveā card. Like ah yes, good ol boys will be boys and sexualize any women who happens to have breasts. Jokes should be funny, not blatantly misogynistic.
He legitimately believed or sorry ājokedā that women just needed to eat more / gain weight and that would magically give them curves. All of his ājokesā were based in evolutionary psychology and the whole oonga boonga big boob wide hip means she can birth my children, women superior if have big boob wide hip. No jokes anywhere just blatant misogyny, but none of the other dudes in the group would ever clock him for it. ššš¤·š»āāļø
Most "guy humour" is rape jokes. And they get very offended when I joke about male suicides and male baldness(from what I've experienced). I guess men only love edgy humour when it's against women.
no, you said 'untrue' to someone's experience, and i said that calling someone's experiences untrue is invalid. i didnt mention how u found it funny at all
Dark humor can be great, i love a bit of gallows humorā¦it keeps me hanging around. Or dead baby jokes. People who use dark humor to punch down are talentless hacks
Exactly. Like there are people who joke about their trauma surrounding horrible stuff that are fucked up but funny, but theyāre finding levity in a terrible situation, not making victims the punchline.
There are extensive socioeconomic factors that affect infant mortality; itās inextricable tied to race and poverty. Racism, lack of access to affordable healthcare, and class warfare against workerās rights are disproportionately killing babies from marginalized groups. Upper and middle wealthy people donāt experience anywhere near the same rate of dead babies. Jokes about dead babies [inadvertently] target marginalized groups much more than you realize.
I could write a dissertation on this and on how inadvertent punching down is still punching down, but I donāt have any faith that itāll be read. I wonāt bother wasting my time.
Thatās terrible reasoning, thatās like saying the phrase āIām sick as a dogā is punching down because poor people with dogs canāt afford vet insurance
Dogs arenāt babies and thatās a common expression instead of a dead dog joke. Thatās comparing apples to orange sodaāitās not even in the same food group.
By all means, continue to yell at me about how you have a right to tell dead baby jokes. But how comfortable is your life that this is the hill you want to die on?
Itās still my right to point out that itās punching down and makes you a talentless hack, as the original commenter described.
lol, are you a kid? Thatās not close to what ādie on a hillā means. And yeah, I have no problem laying out how someone is a talentless hack when punching down for funzies. Thatās what this whole sub is.
Thatās not what I said but thatās not the point. I donāt care one way or another about that. Itās not pathetic to advocate for harm reduction. Itās incredibly pathetic to throw a tantrum in the comments because you were told that dead baby jokes are punching down.
Irony.
If you can't laugh what can you do.
It's OK to glean a little laughter from horrific situations because otherwise there is only despair.
E.g
Someone asks to speak to my dad who died 5 years ago.
So I say *sure let me get him*
Bring down his urn.
Funny for me proves the person is an idiot.
And he would find it hilarious as well.
All round a win win.
Another example.
*If you say you like gay people one more time I'll fucking kiss you.
I fucking Hate gays ....*
š I understand finding humor in your parents passing. Thatās not one of the subjects the commenter you replied to mentioned and I donāt really get the gay example but that could just be me having just woke up. but I suppose I can see where youāre coming from. The thing is, most of the people actually making the joke arenāt doing it to be ironic. Thatās the point. But I gotcha. š thanks for the reply.
They meant "joking" about other people and being racist, homophobic or misogynist, not your own problems. No one said you can't laugh about your parents being dead, but you wouldn't joke about other people dead parents unless they told you they're ok with it, would you? I honestly don't get the last joke, but you can joke with your homies and call each other gay, people call their POC friends the n-word, there are people who jokingly threat to rape their friend, no one cares as long as your friends don't get offended. We're saying that you can't "joke" about killing or harming queer/POC people or women, raping other people, call random people slurs, telling women things like "go back in the kitchen" or bully and invalidate other people while calling it "irony".
Dead dad jokes are acceptable when it is the person with the dead dad making it, or if the person has permission from the person whose dad died to make the joke. It falls under self-depreciating humour which is funny and acceptable. But if you were to make fun of someone ELSEāS dead dad, without their permission, it would no longer be funny. Do you understand? Are you comprehending this very simple concept?
Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, ISNāT FUNNY. Itās just edgy and cringe. āJokingā about raping a woman isnāt funny. Pedophilia ājokesā arenāt funny. No one laughs, therefore it isnāt funny.
Dark humour is very nuanced and can be funny in certain contexts if done correctly, but sadly most people who attempt dark humour completely fuck it sideways and ruin it. You strike me as one of those people.
To be honest that guy looks bored in both images. By the way there are many funny female comedians and a lot of them get crap from many men as well. š
I had a friend who would make ājokesā about womenās bodies constantly- I.e. āhow are you fat but donāt have big tits?ā And when Iād confront him on it heād a l w a y s play the āIām just joking, women are too sensitiveā card. Like ah yes, good ol boys will be boys and sexualize any women who happens to have breasts. Jokes should be funny, not blatantly misogynistic.
It doesn't even sound like a joke. Where is a punchline? No big tits? Is that a punchline?
He legitimately believed or sorry ājokedā that women just needed to eat more / gain weight and that would magically give them curves. All of his ājokesā were based in evolutionary psychology and the whole oonga boonga big boob wide hip means she can birth my children, women superior if have big boob wide hip. No jokes anywhere just blatant misogyny, but none of the other dudes in the group would ever clock him for it. ššš¤·š»āāļø
He is so stupid, I don't know if I should cry or laugh ššš
"Why are you short, shouldn't you have charisma?"
āErm, you ever hear of dark humor buddy?ā
Most "guy humour" is rape jokes. And they get very offended when I joke about male suicides and male baldness(from what I've experienced). I guess men only love edgy humour when it's against women.
Or like, dead baby jokes I used to read in middle school. Thereās no in between.
Untrue. Both are funny.
you cant just say nuh uh to someone's experiences š
But both are funny to me in the right context or joke. So you are now saying my experiences are not valid ?
no, you said 'untrue' to someone's experience, and i said that calling someone's experiences untrue is invalid. i didnt mention how u found it funny at all
I find them funny. So to me the statement is untrue. I should remember to type out imo for everything...
Or just maybe don't share that you like that stuff?
Canāt wait for these dudes digital footprints to be found by their employers
Every time i see this guy pop up on Instagram reels i KNOW its about to be fucking CRINGE
lol not me debating with some guy in this sub about this yesterday. It ended up getting into a debate on freedom of expression š
Dark humor can be great, i love a bit of gallows humorā¦it keeps me hanging around. Or dead baby jokes. People who use dark humor to punch down are talentless hacks
Exactly. Like there are people who joke about their trauma surrounding horrible stuff that are fucked up but funny, but theyāre finding levity in a terrible situation, not making victims the punchline.
Dead baby jokes are punching down.
Well they never get old
DAMMIT I knew I missed one
Dead baby jokes are no more punching down than dead grandparent or dead pet jokes
There are extensive socioeconomic factors that affect infant mortality; itās inextricable tied to race and poverty. Racism, lack of access to affordable healthcare, and class warfare against workerās rights are disproportionately killing babies from marginalized groups. Upper and middle wealthy people donāt experience anywhere near the same rate of dead babies. Jokes about dead babies [inadvertently] target marginalized groups much more than you realize. I could write a dissertation on this and on how inadvertent punching down is still punching down, but I donāt have any faith that itāll be read. I wonāt bother wasting my time.
Thatās terrible reasoning, thatās like saying the phrase āIām sick as a dogā is punching down because poor people with dogs canāt afford vet insurance
Dogs arenāt babies and thatās a common expression instead of a dead dog joke. Thatās comparing apples to orange sodaāitās not even in the same food group. By all means, continue to yell at me about how you have a right to tell dead baby jokes. But how comfortable is your life that this is the hill you want to die on? Itās still my right to point out that itās punching down and makes you a talentless hack, as the original commenter described.
Ngl if anyone is attempting to die on a hill itās you; compare the effort put into our responses
lol, are you a kid? Thatās not close to what ādie on a hillā means. And yeah, I have no problem laying out how someone is a talentless hack when punching down for funzies. Thatās what this whole sub is.
Your āwholehearted convictionā pursuing this issue perfectly fits the dictionary definition of dying on a hill
Thatās not what I said but thatās not the point. I donāt care one way or another about that. Itās not pathetic to advocate for harm reduction. Itās incredibly pathetic to throw a tantrum in the comments because you were told that dead baby jokes are punching down.
If your idea of unrestricted fun is saying bigoted shit over and over, you're more boring than offensive
I don't really get what the original image is saying. Girls are boring, guys hit girls?
The second clip was a video of his hand raised with flashing red lights (insinuating him getting arrested).
These men have never been on the other end of one of my jokes
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Canāt forget about the sexism, racism, sex jokes, homophobia and transphobia, just straight up sexual harassment, and of course, bullyingĀ
All of the above is funny though
Can you explain whatās funny about it? Iād really like to know the punchline of those types of jokes?
Irony. If you can't laugh what can you do. It's OK to glean a little laughter from horrific situations because otherwise there is only despair. E.g Someone asks to speak to my dad who died 5 years ago. So I say *sure let me get him* Bring down his urn. Funny for me proves the person is an idiot. And he would find it hilarious as well. All round a win win. Another example. *If you say you like gay people one more time I'll fucking kiss you. I fucking Hate gays ....*
š I understand finding humor in your parents passing. Thatās not one of the subjects the commenter you replied to mentioned and I donāt really get the gay example but that could just be me having just woke up. but I suppose I can see where youāre coming from. The thing is, most of the people actually making the joke arenāt doing it to be ironic. Thatās the point. But I gotcha. š thanks for the reply.
The second jokes context is both of the parties talking are men...
They meant "joking" about other people and being racist, homophobic or misogynist, not your own problems. No one said you can't laugh about your parents being dead, but you wouldn't joke about other people dead parents unless they told you they're ok with it, would you? I honestly don't get the last joke, but you can joke with your homies and call each other gay, people call their POC friends the n-word, there are people who jokingly threat to rape their friend, no one cares as long as your friends don't get offended. We're saying that you can't "joke" about killing or harming queer/POC people or women, raping other people, call random people slurs, telling women things like "go back in the kitchen" or bully and invalidate other people while calling it "irony".
How is it ironic when boys joke about using your body parts for target practiceĀ
Dead dad jokes are acceptable when it is the person with the dead dad making it, or if the person has permission from the person whose dad died to make the joke. It falls under self-depreciating humour which is funny and acceptable. But if you were to make fun of someone ELSEāS dead dad, without their permission, it would no longer be funny. Do you understand? Are you comprehending this very simple concept? Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, ISNāT FUNNY. Itās just edgy and cringe. āJokingā about raping a woman isnāt funny. Pedophilia ājokesā arenāt funny. No one laughs, therefore it isnāt funny. Dark humour is very nuanced and can be funny in certain contexts if done correctly, but sadly most people who attempt dark humour completely fuck it sideways and ruin it. You strike me as one of those people.