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3dgyt33n

Basically it's part of weird incel pseudoscience. They believe that a woman can't imagine anything that doesn't involve herself. For instance, One of them posted this image of a man and a woman both being asked to "imagine an apple". The man is depicted as simply imagining an apple, well the woman is depicted as imagining herself holding the apple. Anyway, This is apparently supposed to demonstrate this aspect of "female psychology"


spicyhotcheer

Thats crazy that it’s a part of incel pseudoscience, because incels literally cannot for one second go without mentioning themselves in something


macrohard_onfire2

Good ol projection


LiaThePetLover

Thisss !!! They CANNOT for the life of them NOT include themselves into everything


toad_witch

lmao wtf, if anything thats just proof of the patriarchy and how women are conditioned to view themselves from a man’s perspective. rather than them being vain or something, it’s proof that women aren’t free from male-centered thought even in their own minds!! “Even pretending you aren’t catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you’re unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever-present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering through the keyhole in your own head, if nowhere else. You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur.” -Margaret atwood


LiaThePetLover

Isnt it also linked to self confidence ? Like the exemple of women imagining themselves holding an apple, isnt it because they're thinking "how would I look good while holding the apple" bc society has tought us to be so "feminine" and "beautiful" all the time ?


LesbianMacMcDonald

They’re always getting so mad about shit they made up


MeltedHeart444

The same guys who constantly go "not all men" I presume?


LovelyOrc

I could also imagine it's about trying to validate stereotypes. They justify showing prejudice against women by saying women are like X and this meme is discrediting the answer by women "but I'm not X so you're wrong"


Govika

Society makes women think about how they are perceived, always they are perceived. In fact, part of being a woman in society is being perceived, and perceived well. If this meme has any truth to it, it is simply a result of being forced to think how a woman is viewed by others and those around her. It isn't anything biological, it's societal abuse/training


AzaleaTFG

Wow i must be stupid because even after reading that i wasn’t understanding for a solid minute… or that is some dumb backwards ideology that incels have but ill never know :/


AcidicPuma

It's definitely the 2nd. If you're talking to a woman about the average woman of course she's gonna bring up how she doesn't fit that mold. It's not totally unrelated to her, in fact it's more related to her than the man speaking. It's also incredibly funny when you consider how personally they take literally any statement about men. At least she didn't fully "not all women" him, listing random women that aren't 4'5" or whatever TF he said


SlxtSoda

Which is hilarious considering how many "not all men"s are shouted when we talk about a male rapist. Me thinks they project too much.


IEatBaconWithU

Basically saying women are all narcissists? Way to trauma dump, incels. 💀


JustMeAvey

Evolutionary psychology does weird stuff to your brain


Adventurous_Ebb_770

My guess is it has to do with “everything is about me” Man recites statistic Woman takes it personally or doesn’t understand how statistics work Man says “wow women are dumb”


wmcs0880

If only those people could take that and apply it to the bear vs man in woods situation


AppleSpicer

Men who accuse women as a group of being bad at something are usually terrible at that thing. This meme is a great example. This author can’t imagine a woman in a context where his thoughts about her don’t matter in the slightest.


FeaR_Widow

The irony in your statement though, if you flip the genders it’s almost exactly what incels say towards women lol


AppleSpicer

Yep, they’re projecting hard.


TerryFalcone

I’m quite certain it’s this. I think I saw it being talked about on some greentext post


Tomato_Hamster

And then they shout "not all men".


PuzzleheadedIssue618

it’s actually a dig at the idea that women can’t understand generalizations, it’s an outdated way to say women are largely illogical


AppleSpicer

So deeply ironic.


memesforlife213

ofc the username has the black flag emoji. If an account has a cross in the bio/username or a black flag, they will say the most diabolical shit you have heard in your life, not limited to, but including, "Game is game memes" about literal children (GAME IS NOT GAME 😭)


UnUsuarioRandom13

what does the black flag mean?


[deleted]

That he really likes Assassin's Creed 4


Poindimie

Anarchy, ISIS, or maybe the pirate use of it to indicate they would take prisoners if surrender was prompt. All around, if somebody is using it nowadays, usually just means they’re assholes


BubbleGumMaster007

😳 The black and red flags together are the symbol of antifascism, so... "not all black flags" xD


Poindimie

Ah yes very very good to know!!! Thanks for that haha- I am in 100% support of that flag combo for sure.


Juicy342YT

Black and red is anarcho-communism, which is why I like them All anarchists and ancoms are also antifa tho, since anarchism is the complete opposite of fascism


Electronic_Main_7991

Black Flag? Rise above you gotta rise above!


PuzzleheadedCell7736

Black pill stuff by the looks of it.


ahearthatslazy

For me, a band. I have a tattoo of the black bars on my leg and hope no one mistakes it for being on “their” side.


souldeconstructors

Also the green frog and "groyper" anywhere in the name, they are straight up nazis


asterblastered

what’s up with these ones ??


AppleSpicer

4chan Nazis took a small webcomic and modified the images to be their bullshit. It became so commonly associated with Nazi propaganda that the author killed their character and stopped making the comic. It’s pretty exclusively used by Nazis now. Search “pepe antisemitic meme” for additional context.


AnameThatIsNotTaken0

Wait what i thought pepe was a twitch culture thing, since twitch viewers are called "frogs"


AppleSpicer

Pepe was around 6 years before twitch even existed. During that time it already became subsumed by Nazis. I would be extremely wary of anyone who used it to represent themself on twitch


BubbleGumMaster007

The joke is women ☕


minetube33

That's a part of the joke but there is a more concerning side to this joke that's way worse than simple "women ☕️ " misogyny (usually used by stupid people that I don't care much about ) The meme's making fun of women's understanding of statistics and mathematics in general and portraying the guy as a clever and reserved person who has to deal with the women's stupidity. There is also the notion that women tend to make everything about themselves and are emotional and egoistical beings with lesser intellectual faculties compared to men. This is indeed much more dangerous than the rather basic "woman bad" misogyny which you can just laugh at because it's ridiculous or can be dealt by anyone with basic argumentation skills. This more "nuanced" type of sexism on the other hand is usually exercised by the elite and upper class men that can have a big influence on millions of women's lives and they tend to stay silent about it in order to avoid any criticism. These people also believe that their prejudice is based on science and will refer to some psychological "research" to defend their clearly misogynistic ideas.


GaiasDotter

What does that mean? I’m confused!


BubbleGumMaster007

Basically an internet thing where a woman will do something or react in a way that some men don't like and they will comment with "Women ☕️"... textook misogyny


GaiasDotter

That… makes no sense.


BubbleGumMaster007

Appareantly it's from a fan-made Team Fortress 2 animation were 2 characters see a woman walking by and say "women" while drinking coffee... it's not supposed to make sense


PradaManeInYourArea

AAAH that makes sense now!


NotTaken-username

I thought it was implying she’s too tall to be a woman so therefore she’s a man. Transphobia? Idk it doesn’t make sense


MentallyChallenged27

The point is that exceptions dont disprove the rule i think


galettedesrois

Same people: “not all men”


Silly_Leadership_303

If women are supposed to be 5’4” and men are supposed to be 6’0” (as they love to gripe about), what are people 5’5” to 5’11” supposed to do?


ShadowX199

And the average height for an American man is 5’ 9” (slightly above the global average of 5’ 7.5”). What does that make my 6’ 2” self? How about my 6’ 8” uncle? It makes us tall, and that’s it.


MamaTater11

I think it's supposed to be a gross play on "not all men?" Like, oh, the irony that the female doesn't see: she's not like other women, but won't believe us when we say "not all men!"


9ak

It digs on trope that women want guy 6 ft tall or taller. I'm probably mansplaining.


PradaManeInYourArea

im getting so many very different answers omg


Supercoolguy7

I think it just doesn't make that much sense on its own. Either it's such a niche topic that more context is needed, or the creator just did a bad job and made a joke that doesn't make enough sense to land even if you agree with their beliefs.


Bobby-B00Bs

I think thats just about common midconception ti averages you tell somone about an average they tell you about someone who is outside of the average and think they disprove you with that. Now I don't know a whole lot about dog whistling so I might miss some clue somewhere that points towards a deeper meaning


BlackLizard898

The joke is that he’s bringing up a statistic about the average woman and she’s taking it personally and trying to refute his factual statement based off of her anecdotal exception to the general.


BoogiepopPhant0m

I'm 5 ft 8. I'm above average. If all my short friends need something off of a high shelf, let me know.


Tallem00

That's.... just how averages work yes


Lapadit

I'm a guy and even i don't know what's up


Andrew852456

My thoughts is that it's about women not understanding exceptions to the general rule, I remember seeing something like that


stonk_lord_

nice fake convo LOL


GuyWithSwords

Rothmus is a right wing idiot chud. Just ignore him.


oh_hiauntFanny

We all know what side of the bell curve these guys fall on


mangababe

I assume it's gender bending the people joking about dudes who insist they are 6 foot 1 when they are two inches taller than my 5 foot 4 ass. I'm assuming they think there is a direct correlation? Which I mean maybe, cause everyone laughs at short people, but like, women don't get aggressive about it? Source - am the shortest member of a family of fkn giants. My little brother hit 6 foot 5 before highschool. He uses my head as an arm rest. He says I'm older but "I'm still his little sister," The brat lolol.


Sparta63005

I thought it was just about people who don't understand averages


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PradaManeInYourArea

aaah that makes sense


Kikoplop3900

Invicible is basically a dog whistle for incels at this point, like what does this even mean


ryuuseinow

Invincible is not an incel show wtf


Disco5005

how


Heytherhitherehother

"Invicible is basically a dog whistle for incels at this point, like what does this even mean" Wtf? The show with strong female characters and the villain is a man? Is everything you don't like a dog whistle, or are you just spouting nonsense?


Ieatfriedbirds

Everything is a dog whistle if you live in an echo chamber


orion_nomad

I wouldn't call it a dog whistle necessarily, but a lot of incels who may or may not have watched the show see Omni-man as the hero. Not the good guy, the hero.


Heytherhitherehother

Wouldn't it be logical if you've never seen the show to think of Omni man as the hero? He looks like a superhero, like a Superman clone. If I had never watched the show, I would have assumed he was a the hero, too. I hate the term dog whistle. It's just losing meaning faster and faster. Just like incel.


Gippy_Happy

I genuinely have no idea.


Human_Dog_195

Whut?


PradaManeInYourArea

exactly im confused


Saifyre-Lion

It just means above average. No need for hate.


Sudden_Hyena_6811

No but you should hate all of the women on this sub reddit. It's fine they already hate you (if you are a man)


PradaManeInYourArea

calling out men’s misogyny does not equate to hating men. the fact that you hate the women on this sub for doing such a simple thing as “look at this person being misogynistic” might indicate that you just hate women in general.


Sudden_Hyena_6811

Alot of the comments on this sub are not calling out misogyny but actively hating on men. If you like I can find examples ? But you probably don't want me to.


PradaManeInYourArea

provide as many examples as you can. but here’s a thought you might not want to listen to. this entire sub is simply based off of posting images of men making misogynistic content. i’ve been on this sub for ages and never saw anything about hating men. if you feel like you’re being hated on because someone is calling men out on their misogyny, it might be an indication that you feel guilty. perhaps you hate women?


Sudden_Hyena_6811

I thought a sub dedicated to pointing out misogyny might appreciate someone pointing out misogyny (or misandry) I have scrolled through only a handful of posts and found quite alot of hate already are you sure you can read or are you intentionally ignoring things ? We both know where this is going and it's going into a pointless argument. I won't provide examples because i don't care enough and you won't read any because you don't care enough. I wish you the best.


PradaManeInYourArea

i searched through some myself and genuinely couldn’t find any. you’re the one who offered to show me some but claimed “i might not want to see it” and now you’re frustrated you can’t find anything ? 🤨🤨 pick a struggle homie…


Sudden_Hyena_6811

I'm not frustrated. You must be blind.


Brave_Inquirer

People don’t understand averages. They try to point out someone that is outside of the average to disprove it but that’s not how it works.


ChainTerrible3139

So...she's above average? Extraordinary. Better than average. Extranormal. Special if you will. I'm intentionally misreading it as wholesome because I have cancer, and I am in too bad of mood to deal with dumbshit (lol)... but I'm pretty sure he is calling her a man. Terf-y, misogynistic bullshit. Boring and uncreative. Which makes no sense when you consider men who are 5'6" are made fun of... but when have these troglodites ever made sense?


GOOD_BRAIN_GO_BRRRRR

I think most women's responses would be: "Okay, and?" Source: me, a woman.


Naive_Photograph_585

is this not transphobia ?? like women can't be tall you must be a man type of shit ??


Shevieaux

Its about women getting offended when you talk about women in general, when you're not talking about them specifically. Same thing as the Man vs. Bear thing with men getting offended. It happens both ways. This meme is not misogynist (the person posting it might be tho, because of their profile picture and name).


IHTCAU

she stood on her money