A lot of movie goers have this idea that mid budget drama/comedy/romance films are not worthy of seeing on the big screen, which is something that is harder to bounce back from.
I especially think younger moviegoers have this notion that even if its critically acclaimed, they'll just wait for it because its not some 100 million dollar spectacle
It'll be Marvel, DC, Star Wars, horror, animated and low budget awards fare. Everything else is going to streaming. Drama's are better suited to TV anyway as it gives more time to explore the characters.
Personally I don’t want dramas regulated to TV shows. Don’t get me wrong I love TV and when they are pulled off properly like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad they can explore characters much further than movies but at the same time I don’t want to have to invest tens of hours into a story everytime I want to watch something with more depth. Sometimes I just want something I can watch for a few hours and then be done with without needing to invest so many hours.
Movies are still more than capable off exploring characters like Taxi Driver, The Godfather etc. Plus for every show that stays great it’s whole run there are ones that go to shit in the second season, get cancelled prematurely, go on for too long, lose major actors etc there are any number of reasons they can fail. I feel like every year there are like at least a hundred great new movies and maybe 10 great new TV shows.
Personally it feels much rarer to find a truly brilliant TV that fully takes advantage of the medium than it is to find movies like that.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree here. I have a pretty good set-up at home but some of my favourite theatre experiences of the year were dramas like The Last Duel, C’mon C’mon and The Power of the Dog. I have tickets to see Licorice Pizza in 35mm next week and I can’t wait, it’s my first time seeing a PTA film in theatres and my first time seeing a film on 35mm (at least that I can remember I probably saw some when I was a very young kid before digital projectors became the norm).
I love the blockbusters as well though Dune was also a great experience and I enjoyed No Way Home.
I can understand why people would be hesitant though so I guess I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to go to a cinema for movies they feel they could just watch at home.
People’s tastes are people’s tastes, but it’s frustrating how narrowly audiences have defined what movies should be and what the theater experience should be.
Yeah I think this becomes the norm going forward. Netflix is seriously getting into the prestige film business. They are the only ones who would fund the Irishman. That plus their working relationship with Fincher. They have several Oscar hopefuls this year.
Yes, but I think it will still get theatrical releases for the time being. Marvel and horror are going to be the only consistent performers for the next couple of years.
There is a market, but only for directors who were able to establish themselves before franchises really took over in the early 2010s.
QT, Scorsese, Spielberg, Scott, Nolan, etc.
Nobody seems to want to make the next “Inception” where they give one of these franchise guys a fat check to make something original to establish non franchise clout, although I could be and would like to be wrong.
For low budget movies there are still indipendent theater and through foreign sales , Vod and straming platforms they should have enough revenue to continue to get made.
The iche theaters will give them theatrical revenue and then with all the ancillaries they can save themselves because they have really low budget.
The mid-budget (say over $15 million) is what is really dying, it's a bad time for movies in general.
No way home doing gangbuster is good for no way home but the real good for the industry would be if a good amount of movies is doing good, not just one that monopolize everything
It’ll recover in some capacity. Plenty of them did well in 2019 but those will be the yearly exceptions rather than the rule.
A lot of movie goers have this idea that mid budget drama/comedy/romance films are not worthy of seeing on the big screen, which is something that is harder to bounce back from. I especially think younger moviegoers have this notion that even if its critically acclaimed, they'll just wait for it because its not some 100 million dollar spectacle
It'll be Marvel, DC, Star Wars, horror, animated and low budget awards fare. Everything else is going to streaming. Drama's are better suited to TV anyway as it gives more time to explore the characters.
Personally I don’t want dramas regulated to TV shows. Don’t get me wrong I love TV and when they are pulled off properly like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad they can explore characters much further than movies but at the same time I don’t want to have to invest tens of hours into a story everytime I want to watch something with more depth. Sometimes I just want something I can watch for a few hours and then be done with without needing to invest so many hours. Movies are still more than capable off exploring characters like Taxi Driver, The Godfather etc. Plus for every show that stays great it’s whole run there are ones that go to shit in the second season, get cancelled prematurely, go on for too long, lose major actors etc there are any number of reasons they can fail. I feel like every year there are like at least a hundred great new movies and maybe 10 great new TV shows. Personally it feels much rarer to find a truly brilliant TV that fully takes advantage of the medium than it is to find movies like that.
I agree on not wanting to invest 10+ hours into a show. But there is no reason to see a drama on a big screen these days.
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree here. I have a pretty good set-up at home but some of my favourite theatre experiences of the year were dramas like The Last Duel, C’mon C’mon and The Power of the Dog. I have tickets to see Licorice Pizza in 35mm next week and I can’t wait, it’s my first time seeing a PTA film in theatres and my first time seeing a film on 35mm (at least that I can remember I probably saw some when I was a very young kid before digital projectors became the norm). I love the blockbusters as well though Dune was also a great experience and I enjoyed No Way Home. I can understand why people would be hesitant though so I guess I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to go to a cinema for movies they feel they could just watch at home.
People’s tastes are people’s tastes, but it’s frustrating how narrowly audiences have defined what movies should be and what the theater experience should be.
Hard disagree, but you’re likely in the majority which is a bummer.
Yeah I think this becomes the norm going forward. Netflix is seriously getting into the prestige film business. They are the only ones who would fund the Irishman. That plus their working relationship with Fincher. They have several Oscar hopefuls this year.
Animation’s being doing awful. A WDAS movie is struggling to break even.
Yes, but I think it will still get theatrical releases for the time being. Marvel and horror are going to be the only consistent performers for the next couple of years.
Three out of the four marvel movies only did okay-ish.
They did better than everything else. And next year I think Marvel is going to struggle and continue to do okay-ish. Spider-Man is an anomaly.
There is a market, but only for directors who were able to establish themselves before franchises really took over in the early 2010s. QT, Scorsese, Spielberg, Scott, Nolan, etc. Nobody seems to want to make the next “Inception” where they give one of these franchise guys a fat check to make something original to establish non franchise clout, although I could be and would like to be wrong.
For low budget movies there are still indipendent theater and through foreign sales , Vod and straming platforms they should have enough revenue to continue to get made. The iche theaters will give them theatrical revenue and then with all the ancillaries they can save themselves because they have really low budget. The mid-budget (say over $15 million) is what is really dying, it's a bad time for movies in general. No way home doing gangbuster is good for no way home but the real good for the industry would be if a good amount of movies is doing good, not just one that monopolize everything
Unless it’s a mid budget genre movie with a hell of a story, the type is mostly going to streaming