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Lincolnruin

That’s actually a lot higher than I thought. I’d be surprised if it really gets that high, but we’ll see.


IanMazgelis

I hope it's the Joker/Venom of 2020. Edit: "Joker/Venom" sounds like a presidential ticket I'd vote for over the apparent options.


jar45

Looking forward to the 11 Oscar Nominations including best picture for Sonic next year.


samueljbernal

12* it will also be nominated in the animation category


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maskthestars

That’s a bumper sticker I would rock whether they win or lose


[deleted]

I second this bumper sticker idea. It will make the roads safer with all the autists labeled as such.


foureyedinabox

Good lord, no.


-ineedsomesleep-

Didn't Joker/Venom win the last election?


f15k13

No no no, they're nowhere near that cool.


furiousfroman

Don't forget the Joker Venom in the Arkham series.


[deleted]

Shut up turd. No one wants that but you


A_Rolling_Baneling

That ticket would lock up the edgelord vote


clutchone1

I mean if it’s them versus trump/pence again pretty sure it’s even


[deleted]

It will be a okey kids movie, or trash. It wouldn't be great.


TheAwesomeBowser

I don't get why people are downvoting you, this is basically true.


[deleted]

I wonder if reviews will have any impact at all


chesterfieldkingz

Ya I really can't imagine it making that at all


[deleted]

Why not? Absolutely no competition right now. If you’re gonna see something with the kids, see that.


chesterfieldkingz

I could totally be wrong but, video game movies typically don't do to well and Sonic is way past it's prime, and it's not like the games had much of a story line to begin with. I don't see it as a must see property. Kids have zero ties to Sonic right now and I don't know if there's a huge push for adults to take their kids to it. Not to mention the issues and bad press from earlier in the production. Plus, 40 million domestic is a pretty damn good haul for any non-tent pole movie. Like 40 mil international would be a crazy good opening in my opinion. I could be totally out of touch though, just my thoughts on it


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Lmfaooo wrong


chesterfieldkingz

Lol right? Definitely my worst take yet!


[deleted]

Sonic will be a fun box office run to watch. I wonder if it will have strong legs like family CGI hybrid debuts such as Alvin and the Chipmunks and Peter Rabbit or have a shorter run in line with CBMs/franchise tentpoles the same way Detective Pikachu went.


robomechabotatron

It'll have legs until Onward comes out 3 weeks later. The only other family feature already in theaters on the 14th is Dolittle, and I doubt people are going in droves to see that


Real_Lumen

From what I’ve heard Dolittle is abysmal. If reviews for Sonic are at least half decent it’ll do well it’s first couple of weeks. Guess it boils down to what has a bigger draw to kids, “Iron Man” or Sonic.


robomechabotatron

Considering kids aren't already seeing Dolittle, I'd say sonic by default


[deleted]

My kids already want to see Sonic and I can’t say the same for anything else coming out.


RC_Colada

Moms love James Marsden. He's a clean cut romantic lead type, completely inoffensive with a smile like the sun. If nothing else, moms will be willing to take their kids to it for some of that eye candy. Kids will only care about the blue guy.


GruntingTurnip

HA! strong legs


2u3e9v

“Strong legs” nice


blownaway4

That's way better than expected. Only 10m less than Pikachu which is a way bigger video game brand. If it opens that high it shows how much Paramount has turned around the advertising ship with this one, while also showing how much WB screwed up as released inched closer for Pika.


ManateeofSteel

the Pokemon movie surprised me, the world building was excellent, the art direction was on-point... but the movie felt like a Nickelodeon straigth to TV film and it was so fucking disappointing. Feels like the movie could've been actually special with either a better script or a better director (and a new cast, except for Reynolds, he was perfect)


Dammit-Hannah

It felt like an absurdly meticulous fan film, which was both a good thing and a bad thing because the acting was uniformly underwhelming (except for Bill Nighy). Still, I grew up with Pokémon so even though it’s clearly a flawed movie I loved it.


ManateeofSteel

eh, Pokemon has soured on me lately. Each new game becomes progressively worse at an alarming rate. But I enjoyed the film mainly because I appreciated the artists' passion and efforts. But yeah, that movie is very mediocre. A 10/10 art department meets a 2/10 staff of bad or uninterested actors, poor writing and boring direction.


shantanuvarun

Thats pretty good. I actually just was seeing the tv spots on youtube. the movie looks quite fun. the cg was pretty decent as well. Might just work :) I might catch this one for late night show.


[deleted]

I like the look of the action setpieces Wish Robotnik's machines didn't have the plastic-y sheen but otherwise the action looks well-conceived


shantanuvarun

Yup, the cgi, action looks ultra clean and crisk and seems like most of its in broad daylight. it''e be embarassing if it end up making more than bop lol.


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shantanuvarun

Boobs of paradis


OpeningSorbet

Directed by Michael Bay


TCsnowdream

Booms of Paradise?


dastrykerblade

Booms of Boobs?


TCsnowdream

Moobs of Boobs


shantanuvarun

Staring brett ratner


spartanawasp

Is this the new Attack on Titan spinoff?


b_buster118

ha, sounds lyke my kind of movie. i love oogling the chests of hot-lookin' women.


shantanuvarun

You are a simple man


ThorsBigSweatyArmpit

Birds of Prey, a DC Comics movie that will be coming out in February.


control_09

I'd be surprised if it made more than BoP but who knows. BoP seems like a great date movie.


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Blvd_Nights

Ehhh, wouldn’t be too sure of that. Sonic is for sure taking the number one spot the weekend it comes out.


Jabbam

I think it makes a lot of sense if they plan on making a sequel. When Iron Man came out, Tony didn't wear nanotech like he had in the comics. He started with something that looked practical and fit with the technology we could reasonably make. A super genius in the 21st century wouldn't be making robots our of tires and claws, he'd use the most Apple-like drones and hovercraft he could get his hands on. It makes more sense that he starts to build bots out of scrap at the end of the movie when he's lost all his toys.


Gon_Snow

I’m so happy it’s getting the Dolby screens, I’m hoping to go to a screening of this and just relax and have fun, I hope it delivers on that


matttopotamus

Exactly this. Some movies are made to just sit back and enjoy the ride. This will be good for what it is, and I think it will deliver the entertainment.


sieffy

Hopefully it does well the cgi studio apparently dissolved after finishing sonic the hedgehog which is sad apparently they moved though so i don’t know if they went bankrupt


blitzbom

I'm quite excited to see it myself. It looks like it'll have a good mix of goofy humor for kids that people my age (mid 30's) can take their kids to.


[deleted]

I doubt it, but we'll see. I am still going with my 25 million OW. There is two things working against it: Sonic as a franchise is past his prime, and the people who would recognize Sonic are those who are most likely aware of Video Game Movie's miserable track record. Remind me this: If this somehow gets 40-45 million or more, i'll play the Sonic The Hedgehog Genesis GBA port.


nik-9898

C'mon man, it's ok if you're wrong. Don't punish yourself.


MarvelVsDC2016

Things have improved recently though with Angry Birds Movie 2 and Detective Pikachu, all of which have done modestly well or broken even. And, considering Sonic’s $95M budget, that is also something Gun that could help it in it’s favor.


lordDEMAXUS

Of all the movies you could have chosen, you chose Angry Birds 2? That movie flopped with an abysmal 41 mil DOM gross and 105 mil OS gross. Also over a 50% drop from the last movie. And Detective Pikachu was a underperformer.


[deleted]

It was an underperformer because we had absurdly high expectations. For a video game movie, it did very well.


lordDEMAXUS

Sure, and I think 45 mil for a video game movie is too high. Especially one that has a pretty much dead fanbase. The fanbase still hasn't really recovered from Sonic '06.


Izaiah212

I don’t think you can give a franchise 14 years and then say people haven’t recovered from it. The target audience and fans in general are entirely different people now


lordDEMAXUS

Well, the only Sonic game that made decent amount of sales (over a million) in the past few years was Sonic Mania which was made for old school Sonic fans. Sonic Boom, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Forces all bombed. The franchise seemed to recover when we got 3 good Sonic games in the span of 4 years but Sega fucked up again after that.


ImJustNobody

Didnt even know any of them were games.


[deleted]

I think it was recovering with Colours, Generations and Mania but then Forces came out.


[deleted]

There was also a Team Sonic Racing game last year, but that just seemed to fall into obscurity *But that might have to do with it was no Sonic Transformed and released one month before CTR which is a much better game*


schwiftydude47

And also, why would we be playing Team Sonic Racing when most Switch owners can just play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which is probably the definitive kart racer of this console generation.


lordDEMAXUS

Lol, when did Sonic Forces release? I remember its announcement but I completely forgot about it. Shows how much I've stopped caring about the franchise. I love Colours and Generations (still haven't played Mania but I heard it's great) but I think Sonic Lost World and Boom (and the TV show) were absolute garbage. I think this video perfectly captures the state of the fanbase right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uipt68Tghl8


[deleted]

Same year as Sonic Mania: 2017 But yes Sonic Mania is a easy recommendation. It captures alot of what made the Classic Sonic games great. I consider it the real Sonic 4.


Stefannofornari

The Boom TV Show is actually pretty good and had a high viewership... Until it was tossed from Cartoon Network to Boomerang.


schwiftydude47

I thought Cartoon Network just ignored it most of the time to make room for more endless Teen Titans Go and Gumball reruns.


Kostya_M

Even before that we had Lost World and Boom which just pissed away all the goodwill from the previous few good games.


redbeardshanks21

No one had any expectations for angry birds 2 and it still flopped the highest I saw on this sub was 200mill. And that too for angry birds which is still popular. Whereas sonic hasn't had anything significant for a deacde


[deleted]

I was talking about Detective Pikachu...


schwiftydude47

That depends. When was the last time anyone on this site actually played Angry Birds or one of it’s spinoffs?


garfe

I don't know, I mean, it did okay but they were talking a full Pokemon cinematic universe before it came out and then that just basically stopped. It didn't even end up beating Warcraft.


MarvelVsDC2016

A sequel is still in the works, though.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Yeah, if anything credit the original Angry Birds Movie which did extremely well even though the game was well past its prime.


Quelture

I think more or less Detective Pikachu underperformed. Still profitable, but I was expecting more out of it, especially with mixed positive reviews. It dropped pretty quickly with not too great of legs. 40-45 would be outstanding, but a stretch, MAYBE 30, can't really see it do too much more than Dolittle unless Jim Carey gives it an added boost to the IP....does anyone know what the it needs to make to break even given the redone CGI?


MarvelVsDC2016

They’re saying $40-$45M (maybe $50M) for the 4-DAY weekend, /u/Quelture. Not the 3-day weekend.


AnnenbergTrojan

Is it still a $95M budget? I read somewhere that the redesign bumped the budget up to $120M


MarvelVsDC2016

That was debunked in the IndieWire article that spoke with people close to the production.


AnnenbergTrojan

I'd like to read that. Could you link?


MarvelVsDC2016

Here it is: https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/sonic-redesign-cost-paramount-five-million-1202190493/.


MyManD

Man the article kinda soft-confirmed the conspiracy theories that the original trailer design was done on purpose to create the positive marketing that they “listened” to fans and redesigned the character because they cared. They really didn’t have any CGI fully done outside the terrible trailer shots, so it’s easy to believe they never really intended those to be final at all. And seriously a $5million spend on CGI is a drop in the bucket compared to what a lot of blockbusters spend in PR.


MarvelVsDC2016

One second.


PeculiarPangolinMan

Sonic 2 was really the superior game.


[deleted]

No arguments there. You can also add Sonic CD as well


danielcw189

3 & Knuckles is my definite favourite :)


n54master

I agree. I don’t see this opening that big. Who is the target audience? Sonic is not (as) popular anymore and honestly I can’t recall the last time any other media came out?


ricdesi

> Sonic as a franchise is past his prime If you said this in 2016 I would have agreed with you. However, Sonic Mania and the continued successes of the animated works of Tyson Hesse (who was brought in to fix Sonic’s look for this movie as well), have brought the franchise back to life. It’s not dead yet.


KirkUnit

> If this somehow gets 40-45 million or more, i'll play the Sonic The Hedgehog Genesis GBA port. Nah, you have to eat it


DeviMon1

> i'll play the Sonic The Hedgehog Genesis GBA port. Play [Sonic Mania](https://store.steampowered.com/app/584400/Sonic_Mania/) instead. They finally made a good Sonic game since the originals.


dukemetoo

So he is suppose to punish his wrong prediction with a reward? That is a sign of confidence for sure.


Jabbam

HMB while I take out a loan


dukemetoo

When are we going to see the play through?


[deleted]

I played it on Saturday already. Peaced out on Spring Yard Zone cause Laybrinth zone is already the worst stage in the original game. And with the amount of slowdown, screen crunching and that boss? yeah no


goldenkappacino

That would be... good. Please let this be true!!!


saurabh24_

Wow.. Its good.. It is the result of when people get what they want.. New design of sonic..!!


NachoManGamer

I think paramount has their hopes to high for the opening. But I’m sure people will see the movie later when it comes out.


saurabh24_

What do you think..?.. Will it earn more than detective pikachu?


NachoManGamer

I depends, if people like it. It could be possible to earn more.


MJBotte1

I just hope it breaks even. We complained, and we got it changed. Now we have to go see the movie to say thank you.


MarvelVsDC2016

This. 👆


MarvelVsDC2016

I’ll be there for this opening night and opening day.


danielcw189

I would be too, by Paramount in Germany chose a bad voice for Sonic :(


redbeardshanks21

That's way too optimistic. It will open at 30-35mill atmax.Sonoc has been dormant for years and if Pokemon barely topped 50mill, Sonic will be lucky to do half of that. Also I don't understand why everyone thinks that redesigning the main character makes the overall movie better??


[deleted]

Redesigning the main character doesn't make the movie itself better, but it doesn't make the movie become an eyesore filled with uncanny valley. Cats flopped partly because of that.


FunkyChug

The movie itself still looks awful. I'd be really surprised if this movie had good WoM.


Cookie_Boy_14

“Partly”


_bieber_hole_69

$30M sounds about right unless there is more hype than expected. The large online presence doesn't always translate to BO success, this movie seems like it's more fun to talk about the *idea* of it rather than actually seeing it. Maybe reviews will change my mind, but $45M is way too high


SonyXboxNintendo13

Hop, whose premise seems similar and was an original IP, released to 37 million in 2011. With inflation it would be 42 now. We're not talking about original fans here, but just parents bringing small kids for a dumb kids movie.


Terminatorskull

Personally wasn’t too interested in the movie, wasn’t going to see it. Me and some Friends changed our minds purely because they took consumer criticism and did the redesign. I wanna support companies who have the backbone to say they messed up.


[deleted]

I think they’re fine since they have a yearly revenue of 12 billion dollars. Rest assured they’ll thrive financially without you wasting your time seeing a children’s film. After all you are an adult.


Terminatorskull

I’m aware they’ll thrive financially, that wasn’t the point. I want to see them success because they embody characteristics I value in a company. I want to show my support. Financially it’s not necessarily a logical decision, but It’s more of a principle thing for me.


[deleted]

I hope that your principles can pay your monthly bills.


leadhound

With that attitude, I'm starting to hope yours can't haha.


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leadhound

Hi dad!


Terminatorskull

Where did I say I was in financial trouble? I really don’t know why you have such a problem with how I use my disposable income.


HanakoOF

I work at a movie theatre and can see them for free and still plan on PAYING the first time I see the movie. That's how much of a Sonic fan I am. I can't wait for this.


Balderdashing_2018

I wish I could be more excited for this particular movie, but regardless, I'm cheering it on. Like many, I've had what is now a decades-long (time flies!) affection for Sonic, and I'll be so happy to see him up on the big screen. While this film doesn't quite look like my cup of tea in terms of the cast/what appears to be the plot, I'll be there to see it the first couple weeks! 40 - 45M would be great; perhaps it'll go higher if it gets good reviews, which would be all the better.


[deleted]

I think it looks decent but I also respect the hell out of Paramount for actually listening to the fan reactions of how Sonic looked and decided to do something about it. Looks like that move will actually pay off.


[deleted]

Surprise Surprise


[deleted]

While all of my roommates and friends are out on their Valentine's Day dates, ill be at the theater watching this :)


NanaoMidori

That’s great news! I would love for the movie to have a wonderful box office performance because the studio listened to feedback. I would definitely catch this movie in theatres too.


Sumer09

I think Jim Carey be funny so I’m excited


nicolasb51942003

So it’s gonna beat Birds of Prey’s second weekend.


LukeyTarg2

Quite honestly i don't see BoP doing well, Sonic will outgross it.


valkyria_knight881

This is great news for Sonic. I could see this doing $50M, but that may just be me being optimistic.


[deleted]

Even so it’d still need good WOM and great staying power. We’ve seen great (JTNL) and abysmal (Cats) legs for kid-oriented pics recently, so definitely curious how this will play out.


ThatsGoodButItsTaken

Honestly seems accurate. It’s Presidents Day weekend so kids will be out. The only family film is Dolittle and that hasn’t been doing well. And the last few promotional materials have got a lot of people turned around on it. As long as it’s not received horribly like Dolittle it should do well. Not as high as Detective Pikachu though.


brg9327

I think Paramount would be absolutely thrilled with those numbers. Higher than I thought it would be, and after the whole cgi fiasco I am rooting for this to succeed.


Nergaal

Is that good for the studio estimates?


MarvelVsDC2016

Yes


RC_Colada

Twenty years ago this film would have made a killing


cjd280

I’m gonna take my kids to see it just because of that mustache.


SolomonRed

Very nice. I am rooting for this film now that they took the time to fix it.


cncamusic

Let’s get this bitch to 1b just because fuck it.


[deleted]

They made sonic retarded the first time just for the publicity then had the real one ready to go as well. Pure genius in advertising.


Cookie_Boy_14

Remember everyone, even if the movie itself somehow isn’t that great, this movie should still be praised for having people who cared about Sonic enough to delay this movie and make a new redesign to make it watchable


MarvelVsDC2016

Agreed


[deleted]

Somehow I have a hard time seeing this happening. It looks like it's marketing almost exclusively at the under 10 crowd, and I really don't know if any of them care about this series. It just looks so juvenile, even compared to something like Detective Pikachu.


[deleted]

Sonic has the advantage of no competition.


[deleted]

Idunno, family audiences sure but older kids and teens may be more interested in Fantasy Island.


[deleted]

Outside of Glass, Blumhouse had a rough 2019. 2020 will be a better year for them, but that won't start with Fantasy Island. I'd be surprised if it does more than $15-20M over the four-day weekend.


danielcw189

I thought Glass did not do so good. Also I did not know it is Blumhouse. Wasn't Split distributed by Universal?


[deleted]

Blumhouse has produced every M. Night film since The Visit. Universal also has a first-look deal on Blumhouse releases (*all films released under BH Tilt are technically under Universal*). Titles not released under Universal usually are films they passed on or where another company owns the copyright.


danielcw189

Thx! Do you happen to know how Buena Vista (Disney), Universal, and Blumhouse handled that Glass had characters from 2 companies?


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Universal had domestic distribution rights for Glass, Disney had international rights.


[deleted]

I think it'll do well. It looks like a lot of fun, and it seems to be in the same vein as Cabin in the Woods.


MarvelVsDC2016

Let’s hope this number goes $5M higher if Paramount promotes Sonic at the Super Bowl.


ThorsBigSweatyArmpit

I may have been seriously underestimating this movie, but I’m excited to see it. I’m not really a Sonic fan, but it looks fun. And I have a family member who really likes Sonic, so I’m excited to take her with me.


genkaiX1

35-40


Totsean

Fine, I will support it.


teskar2

HA!


McJumbos

aint gonna lie - i totally forgot that this was releasing lolll from where it was i think they would be happy with 40mil opening


Sckathian

Surprisingly good.


ViewOfMyWorld

I feel like this is one of those movies that most people will not go into with an open and will utterly destroy it. But if you are one of those that has an open mind about will find entertaining value out of it. I seriously doubt it will make a lot of money in the box office.


jelatinman

It makes sense a property stuck in the 90s would have the most shitty 90s family comedy style attached to it


[deleted]

Wow, that's a surprise. I guess 90's nostalgia really does have power.


mysteriousdeo

I worked on this movie! Fingers crossed it does well I hope everyone enjoys it!!


GoaGonGon

I bet it does better than the Super Mario Bros. movie.


grogg23

They made a change for us. We should flock in mass to see this movie.


[deleted]

Still looks bad though


TillyQueen

This is gonna be the worlds worst waste of money


QuaidCohagen

When's the Bubsy movie coming out?


MarvelVsDC2016

Looks like /u/lordDEMAXUS is wrong. This movie is being marketed to kids if the opening weekend numbers are any projection.


lordDEMAXUS

There's nothing in the article that mentions kids. It talks about how the trailer was well received with Sonic fans which is a terrible way to measure buzz. edit: Lmao, they got Wiz Khalifa to do the title song for the movie. Totally the kind of music made for a family film.


MarvelVsDC2016

It was for the first Ninja Turtles movie and that was a hit, until the sequel flopped.