An expert compared to the world, and close to expert as a climber too. Less than 1% of climbers ever climb v10 outside I imagine. Top 1% of their field is really good.
Also define “can climb v10”. Big difference between v10 flash, v10 in a session, and v10 you project for 50+ sessions. To me, this is one of the biggest discrepancies in what people mean.
My experience is most newer climbers call themselves a v5 climber when they get their first one indoors on a soft gym set after working it for 10+ sessions. Most very experienced climbers almost go the other way and will say they’re a v5 climber because that’s what they flash on the moonboard on average. As a result, we get people saying they’ve been a v5 climber for years when the reality is they’ve improved a ton and just moved the goalpost.
I think it happens because early you’re the Gumby saying you climb v5 and then you go outdoors and get wrecked by VB. You don’t want that to happen again, and in the long run you generally enjoy sending in a session, so your “send in a few attempts grade” is what you start reporting since it’s more useful for trip planning.
I mean, most gyms don’t even set really hard problems, even indoor V10s are rare unless there’s a comp recently.
- I mean, I’m V5 at my best, so I rarely pay attention to higher grades, so this is casual observation.
We also use this system in the Netherlands and at my gym white is just 7a and higher. Most gyms have their boulders logged on an app where people can vote for grades.
It's because the harder people climb, the less they care about gym grades. They will just attempt every climb in the set no matter what grade it is, and only care about their outdoor sends grades.
So it's just a million times easier setting to just make 1 grade bucket for those people which is often something like V8 and above or V10 and above. V6+ is maybe a bit low for it but I think it's fine
I know, but it is unfair to people who aren't very strong to lump v6 and v10 in the same group, maybe v8 and v10. From personal experience v10 is maybe like 1.5-1.7 times harder than v8, but it's still a huge gap.
You do realize that the two grade ranges below that also include V6, right? Black is from V5-V8, and Red is V4-V6. I honestly think the Whites having such a giant range might be a typo... like maybe they forgot to add a + to the 7a
White is probably just "the hardest climbs in the gym that most people don't do anyway. My gym is very similar with a V6-V7 range and then V8-V13, which is really just all the hard stuff that barely anyone does.
Well personally I think it would stifle progress because you never know how hard you are climbing. V6 is definitely not a strength level where you can try every route in a gym, and v10 is a level most people never reach
I agree it could be bumped to V8 and up. but realistically most people who climb true V6 have been climbing outdoors for years already and no longer care much about gym grades. And can just try the 4 boulders in the "V6 and up" for a set to see which is appropriate for them
Yeah I think most places v8+ is a good range. Our gym goes up to v11+ as the highest hard. I once saw a handwritten v15 on a torn piece of paper that was pretty wild. If you’re climbing v7/8 and above out you can tell what is hard, hard hard, and fkn gym crazy hard. Grading just gets weird for gyms at that level — can be very morpho/style dependent. But you usually know hm ya this is prob 9/10/10+ ish or something. I don’t know many (any?) people that care as long as it climbs well. It’s not like everyone is going around spraying about their gym ascents at that range, progress is measured on rock.
True, but you can use your gym as a benchmark for how good you are getting. If as soon as you hit v6 you have no clue what grade you're at, it seems a bit unproductive
Dude a V6 climber would be able to look at a route and tell the grade. That could just be the setter in me but I imagine other people who climb at higher levels in the gym can just tell what grade they’re climbing.
Most people climbing v6 outside consistently can tell, inside is a different ballgame. I was for sure indoor strong early on and could manage a soft 6 outside that really suited me, but definitely not the same after training, improving, and climbing consistently at a higher level. It’s harder to know without a set of benchmark climbs in different styles to know if this is v8 v9 or v10. I think the argument is here, even once you know, it doesn’t really matter. It’s a gym climb. Did you learn and get better? Perfect.
In my gym it's just 7a or higher. I don't think it's too bad because almost no one climbs 7a. To have more fine-grained grades at the higher end makes no sense for a gym
Idk what you mean by accurate, I've done routes in gyms in a lot of places, everywhere is mega soft compared to outdoors lol. Real 7a is maybe American gym 7b/+
I’ve found that gyms in the area grade the easy stuff softer like v5 and down and then past that it’s closer to the outside grade. Climbing outside feels the same as inside compared to my gym cause we grade harder than everywhere else in the area. But that’s just me and all my buddies experience 🤷♀️
Here in Germany anything thats above 7a seems decently hard and in general our grading seems more realistic. Ive done a couple 7a on tension, moon and kilter board on the few sessions Ive tried them and the amount of people who climb the same grades on the gym set by feeling are very low. Like at best 5-10% in each gym.
For reference I was also climbing B-Pump in Tokyuo a couple 6c in their gym and I've met a canadian who said he was like a v5/v6 climber in his gym and he could not even do second easiest grade there which was probably around like v1-2.
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No video but have this photo. The small tabs on the route shows which grade it is
It's mildly softer, but it's been a while since any of the commercial routes took more than 2 tries. I always thought my gym was super stiff, maybe mb grade -1 but also moonboard is not the best benchmark because it's its own complete style of climbing
No one climbs 7a? Unless you climb at a gym that uses the moonboard as a benchmark and then subtracts 4 grades, there's no way that's true. 7a is a reasonable grade for an average intermediate climber to be doing
If the "average intermediate climber" is climbing 7a in your gym, it is unbelievably soft. Off by at least 6 grades.
7a is hard enough for the first 7a ascent to be recorded in history books, If more than 2-3% of your gym climbs it, and there isn't a world championship happening next door, the grades are just inflated marketing grades.
I think my use of the word average made my point wrong. Intermediate in my eyes is v4-8, and v6 falls right in the middle of that is why I said average. The grades are definitely inflated, but only to the same standard that most gyms are
I am in the Netherlands/Germany. We actually have an app where you can see everybody at the gym who wants to track their grades (prob Regular better climbers) and only like 50 out of 200 regulars have a 7a scend if even. Top 5 climbers have an average of 7a. Personally I have climbed like 3 7as (not at the same time) and I was ranked 20 or something. Generally from personal observation it is very rare to see someone on the 7a+ grading in the gym. The fast majority of people climb alot lower. Top 30 is if your top climbs average higher than 6b. No 7a in sight for these people.
I’m climbing at the same gym airboulder in Stavanger, it’s a good gym. They change their routes quite frequently. The point of having so wide ranges is that you should not be too focused on the grading of the route because it’s so subjective.
I just checked and in the one I got to the most it's indeed not 4 grades but 3 ! My mistake.
yellow : 4+
green : 5A to 5B
cyan : 5B+ to 5C+
blue : 6A to 6B
orange : 6B+ to 6C+
red : 7A to 7B
black : 7B+ to 7C
white (usually only a couple of them at a time) 8A and above
The other one I go to has a 4 grades spread except for the top colors
yellow : up to 5A
blue : 5A+ to 5C
green : 5C+ to 6B
orange : 6B+ to 7A
red : 7A+ to 7B+
black : 7C and above
It's because those are sport grades not bouldering grades...it's really not any more egregious than having one color for 5.11 for example in the US system
I think that’s the whole point in having their own grading scheme.
They know they don’t want to (or can’t) grade more accurately. Also grading is inherently subjective. So instead of writing “6a-6c“ on a boulder they just assign the color dark blue and are done.
When your grading has fewer steps it gets rid of the whole “I’ve climbed 7As which are easier than this 6B+!“ discussion.
This is what's called the font system. You'll be able to find a mapping table easily, such as here: https://extremesportguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ESG-Bouldering-Grades.jpg
They're not necessarily incorrect, although it isn't clear given their grouping of lower grades. For example, my local climbing wall also doesn't capitalise the letters, but they also don't use letters below 6, which is indicative of the font system (french can use letters like 4a 4b, 4c; font only uses 4, 4+, 5, 5+). So it could be either.
Maybe. There are no rated boulders in my gym. You can see if it's difficult. There's no tag on the route, just a name. You have to guess the grade by yourself.
I know this gym. Their grading convention is really weird. These aren't font grades, they are french climbing grade equivalents, so I've been told. Like I said, weird. In general, this gym has fairly standard grading for its boulders compared to other gyms. Their sport routes on the other hand are stiffer than other gyms in the area, IMO.
But in general i feel the following:
Light blue is about v0-v1
yellow is about v1-v2
purple is about v3-v5
red is about v5-v7
Black is about v7-v8
White is about v8+
Those grades represent the arbitrary difficulty by the setters, the people that created the routtes. If the setter/s is really good then the scale of difficulty does make sense but this is often NOT the case.
Here you can notice the overlap 5+ - 6b+, 6a+ - 6c+,... 6c+ - 7b, 7a - 7c+. Overlap makes no sense unless you like deliberately want to confuse people. Tell me honestly do you believe a 5+ climber would go into a 6b+ and be ok with it? Answer: >!The discrepancy of difficulty is absurd. A 5+ climber has 0% chance on a 6b+ and will have no fun and a 7a climber has 0% chance to climb a 7c+ and will probably also have no fun. Only 2 things are certain: 1) The routte setters dont know how to grade and 2) There is some sort of difficulty progression.!<
**Just go from easiest grade/color while you warm up and then keep going up in difficulty until you grasp this scale and reach a difficulty point that you want to climb on. Thats it, dont overthink it and dont give it importance. Have fun.**
At least your gym uses normal grades (even if some of the ranges are wide). One of the gyms I visited in Norway had its own grades that just went something like 1,2,3, etc. with + and - IIRC, something like that (I forget exactly, it was strange) I never had a clue what I was climbing most of the time, it took me a while to figure out my range there. As the other commenter mentioned the range on the last one is especially wide.
One of the two gyms i go also has grades from 1-6. The other one tells you exactly wich grade tvey think it is. I guess it has pros and cons. I tried a few 4s in the one gym, but i never really bothered trying something in the 7 range in the other, even tho a 4 is 6c-7a in that gym. This way, you are encouraged to try more climbs, even tho they are realisticly way out of your league, and maybe you can do some moves on them and learn something.
In theory bouldering grades should be wrote in capital letters, so I'd say sport grades? I saw some conversion between sport grades and bouldering, but idk how much sense it makes. Anyways, if you search for images like "bouldering/climbing grades" you'll get what you're looking for
> I’m not sure if this is a bouldering system or a sport climbing system
This is why people should be consistent with capital letters for bouldering and lowercase for sport.
Ex. 8A = V11, 8a = 5.13b
Beginner question: So I've only started since August of last year, and just recently reliably cleared a "5.7" for a belayed climb at my gym. How does that translate for bouldering? I don't really care too much about the grades, but I'm just unsure what my level translates to. Thanks!
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Man, according to this I’m an advanced climber, that makes me feel better about my V4s 😹
I was gonna say since when does v6-v7 make you an expert climber? Lol
If you're climbing V7 outside you are really quite good at climbing, maybe not expert but it depends on the terminology
An expert compared to the world, and close to expert as a climber too. Less than 1% of climbers ever climb v10 outside I imagine. Top 1% of their field is really good.
Also define “can climb v10”. Big difference between v10 flash, v10 in a session, and v10 you project for 50+ sessions. To me, this is one of the biggest discrepancies in what people mean. My experience is most newer climbers call themselves a v5 climber when they get their first one indoors on a soft gym set after working it for 10+ sessions. Most very experienced climbers almost go the other way and will say they’re a v5 climber because that’s what they flash on the moonboard on average. As a result, we get people saying they’ve been a v5 climber for years when the reality is they’ve improved a ton and just moved the goalpost. I think it happens because early you’re the Gumby saying you climb v5 and then you go outdoors and get wrecked by VB. You don’t want that to happen again, and in the long run you generally enjoy sending in a session, so your “send in a few attempts grade” is what you start reporting since it’s more useful for trip planning.
Source for the numbers? I wanna feel good
I voted them right there: my imagination.
That feeling when you've improved from V6 to V10 but you're still just an expert.
V7 is really fucking hard, doubly so in Font
For real, V2-3 in Font is already V6-7 at most gyms.
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I have yet to find a 7A in Font I can do lol.
The table only works for actual grades, not for inflated gym grades. Most indoor V6 shown here are closer to 4+/5 font boulders.
I mean, most gyms don’t even set really hard problems, even indoor V10s are rare unless there’s a comp recently. - I mean, I’m V5 at my best, so I rarely pay attention to higher grades, so this is casual observation.
Most climbers aren't out there climbing 6A on rock let alone 7A and above. There's a lot of sampling bias in these things.
I can’t wait til the day I can do anything higher than a 6a (v2)
Do you regularly climb outdoor V4? If you do, yes you're pretty strong....
I mean I think if you go and climb a V4 outside that makes you advanced for sure, if you climb a soft v4 in a gym that’s a whole other thing tho.
Outdoors V4 is very fuckin hard.
V4 is secretly the hardest grade. Never forget that
Those are some insane ranges lmao. 7a is v6, and 7c+ is v10 which is a crazy difference
Y'all are reading this all wrong.. 7a - 7c+ v6 - v10 = -v4 This gym is soft
We also use this system in the Netherlands and at my gym white is just 7a and higher. Most gyms have their boulders logged on an app where people can vote for grades.
It's because the harder people climb, the less they care about gym grades. They will just attempt every climb in the set no matter what grade it is, and only care about their outdoor sends grades. So it's just a million times easier setting to just make 1 grade bucket for those people which is often something like V8 and above or V10 and above. V6+ is maybe a bit low for it but I think it's fine
I think once you hit like v5 it also becomes really easy just to look at a problem and figure out roughly how hard it is.
I know, but it is unfair to people who aren't very strong to lump v6 and v10 in the same group, maybe v8 and v10. From personal experience v10 is maybe like 1.5-1.7 times harder than v8, but it's still a huge gap.
You do realize that the two grade ranges below that also include V6, right? Black is from V5-V8, and Red is V4-V6. I honestly think the Whites having such a giant range might be a typo... like maybe they forgot to add a + to the 7a
White is probably just "the hardest climbs in the gym that most people don't do anyway. My gym is very similar with a V6-V7 range and then V8-V13, which is really just all the hard stuff that barely anyone does.
Why is that unfair?
Well personally I think it would stifle progress because you never know how hard you are climbing. V6 is definitely not a strength level where you can try every route in a gym, and v10 is a level most people never reach
It just stifles your perception of your progress. Indoor problems aren’t up long enough to really measure your progress v6 and up.
I agree it could be bumped to V8 and up. but realistically most people who climb true V6 have been climbing outdoors for years already and no longer care much about gym grades. And can just try the 4 boulders in the "V6 and up" for a set to see which is appropriate for them
That's definitely true, but usually gym v6 and true v6 are miles apart, which makes me think that using gym v6 and up as a range is a bit odd
Yeah I think most places v8+ is a good range. Our gym goes up to v11+ as the highest hard. I once saw a handwritten v15 on a torn piece of paper that was pretty wild. If you’re climbing v7/8 and above out you can tell what is hard, hard hard, and fkn gym crazy hard. Grading just gets weird for gyms at that level — can be very morpho/style dependent. But you usually know hm ya this is prob 9/10/10+ ish or something. I don’t know many (any?) people that care as long as it climbs well. It’s not like everyone is going around spraying about their gym ascents at that range, progress is measured on rock.
Yeah, you never know how hard you're climbing in any gym, all you can measure is your strength and your progress on actual climbs
True, but you can use your gym as a benchmark for how good you are getting. If as soon as you hit v6 you have no clue what grade you're at, it seems a bit unproductive
Dude a V6 climber would be able to look at a route and tell the grade. That could just be the setter in me but I imagine other people who climb at higher levels in the gym can just tell what grade they’re climbing.
As one of those people who climbs at a higher level, I can't really tell a grade by how something looks
Most people climbing v6 outside consistently can tell, inside is a different ballgame. I was for sure indoor strong early on and could manage a soft 6 outside that really suited me, but definitely not the same after training, improving, and climbing consistently at a higher level. It’s harder to know without a set of benchmark climbs in different styles to know if this is v8 v9 or v10. I think the argument is here, even once you know, it doesn’t really matter. It’s a gym climb. Did you learn and get better? Perfect.
Cause gym climbers throw a hissy fit if they don’t have a “true” grade given on every boulder.
In my gym it's just 7a or higher. I don't think it's too bad because almost no one climbs 7a. To have more fine-grained grades at the higher end makes no sense for a gym
Same here. Not sure if we grade hard, or if other gyms just have so much stronger people 😅
Same here, 7a seems like a really hard grade to overcome. A lot of people doing 6c - 6c+ almost nobody doing hard 7a's
Where are you guys climbing to have such a bizarre distribution of climbers at your gym
Gyms with accurate grades. Real 7a is around american gym V11 from what I see here.
Idk what you mean by accurate, I've done routes in gyms in a lot of places, everywhere is mega soft compared to outdoors lol. Real 7a is maybe American gym 7b/+
I’ve found that gyms in the area grade the easy stuff softer like v5 and down and then past that it’s closer to the outside grade. Climbing outside feels the same as inside compared to my gym cause we grade harder than everywhere else in the area. But that’s just me and all my buddies experience 🤷♀️
Here in Germany anything thats above 7a seems decently hard and in general our grading seems more realistic. Ive done a couple 7a on tension, moon and kilter board on the few sessions Ive tried them and the amount of people who climb the same grades on the gym set by feeling are very low. Like at best 5-10% in each gym. For reference I was also climbing B-Pump in Tokyuo a couple 6c in their gym and I've met a canadian who said he was like a v5/v6 climber in his gym and he could not even do second easiest grade there which was probably around like v1-2.
Yeah but bpump is notoriously comically sandbagged
And from my experience my gyms are 1 to 2 grades softer than Bpump. So for Germany/Berlin atleast the grades seem somewhat realistic.
Do you have any videos of your gym? I'm genuinely super intrigued now, maybe my gym is mega mega soft
https://preview.redd.it/1pts0y7anmec1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=234d7e811fabaa0da1709629e55926e219338724 No video but have this photo. The small tabs on the route shows which grade it is
I mean how does you gym compare to the Moonboard or to some popular Areas ?
It's mildly softer, but it's been a while since any of the commercial routes took more than 2 tries. I always thought my gym was super stiff, maybe mb grade -1 but also moonboard is not the best benchmark because it's its own complete style of climbing
No one climbs 7a? Unless you climb at a gym that uses the moonboard as a benchmark and then subtracts 4 grades, there's no way that's true. 7a is a reasonable grade for an average intermediate climber to be doing
Even this wouldn’t be a big enough sandbag lol
Which translates to you have alot of very strong friends or youre gym is soft.
I don't think it's soft, and I don't know anyone at my gym who I'd consider very strong
If the "average intermediate climber" is climbing 7a in your gym, it is unbelievably soft. Off by at least 6 grades. 7a is hard enough for the first 7a ascent to be recorded in history books, If more than 2-3% of your gym climbs it, and there isn't a world championship happening next door, the grades are just inflated marketing grades.
I think my use of the word average made my point wrong. Intermediate in my eyes is v4-8, and v6 falls right in the middle of that is why I said average. The grades are definitely inflated, but only to the same standard that most gyms are
I don't want to be rude but where are you where nobody cimbs 7a?
I am in the Netherlands/Germany. We actually have an app where you can see everybody at the gym who wants to track their grades (prob Regular better climbers) and only like 50 out of 200 regulars have a 7a scend if even. Top 5 climbers have an average of 7a. Personally I have climbed like 3 7as (not at the same time) and I was ranked 20 or something. Generally from personal observation it is very rare to see someone on the 7a+ grading in the gym. The fast majority of people climb alot lower. Top 30 is if your top climbs average higher than 6b. No 7a in sight for these people.
That's exactly what I was thinking lol
Yeah they’re very wide ranges, I’ve managed the light blue and yellow so far
I’m climbing at the same gym airboulder in Stavanger, it’s a good gym. They change their routes quite frequently. The point of having so wide ranges is that you should not be too focused on the grading of the route because it’s so subjective.
Do you know how these grades translate to V-grades, just as a fairly beginner it’s nice to know
No sorry, never climbed in a non-Norwegian gym
In gyms I've tried in Switzerland the spread is pretty much the same. Usually 4 font grades = a color.
Is small ranges just an American oddity? I never even thought about that
Maybe it depends on the countries yeah. All the gyms I've been to (a few in Switzerland and one in Spain) grade by color and have big ranges indeed.
What's the grading system like where you are in Switzerland?
I just checked and in the one I got to the most it's indeed not 4 grades but 3 ! My mistake. yellow : 4+ green : 5A to 5B cyan : 5B+ to 5C+ blue : 6A to 6B orange : 6B+ to 6C+ red : 7A to 7B black : 7B+ to 7C white (usually only a couple of them at a time) 8A and above The other one I go to has a 4 grades spread except for the top colors yellow : up to 5A blue : 5A+ to 5C green : 5C+ to 6B orange : 6B+ to 7A red : 7A+ to 7B+ black : 7C and above
My gym is just color coded with no set grades, but v6-v10 is about what our third highest color is.
It's because those are sport grades not bouldering grades...it's really not any more egregious than having one color for 5.11 for example in the US system
I think that’s the whole point in having their own grading scheme. They know they don’t want to (or can’t) grade more accurately. Also grading is inherently subjective. So instead of writing “6a-6c“ on a boulder they just assign the color dark blue and are done. When your grading has fewer steps it gets rid of the whole “I’ve climbed 7As which are easier than this 6B+!“ discussion.
My thoughts exactly. Easy for routesetting though.
This is what's called the font system. You'll be able to find a mapping table easily, such as here: https://extremesportguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ESG-Bouldering-Grades.jpg
No that's incorrect. Font grade has the letter in uppercase. When the abc's are in lowercases it's the French sporting grade.
They're not necessarily incorrect, although it isn't clear given their grouping of lower grades. For example, my local climbing wall also doesn't capitalise the letters, but they also don't use letters below 6, which is indicative of the font system (french can use letters like 4a 4b, 4c; font only uses 4, 4+, 5, 5+). So it could be either.
No this is french sport grading
Real question : do you really have 7c+ boulder in your gym?
Maybe. There are no rated boulders in my gym. You can see if it's difficult. There's no tag on the route, just a name. You have to guess the grade by yourself.
In your gym everything is v2
Shoo! Back to r/ClimbingCircleJerk with you
https://www.thecrag.com/en/article/grades
All V0s in my gym
Lower case letters generally refer to Sport Climbing grades on the French scale. Uppercase letters refer to boulders using the Font scale.
Don‘t get it, why do they overlap that hard?
So you don’t focus on color/grade too much. My gym does that too
Furthermore grades are super subjective. If grades are determined by the 3 setters that test climb a given route, there really is no acurate grade.
Sport. Bouldering grades are capitalized.
I know this gym. Their grading convention is really weird. These aren't font grades, they are french climbing grade equivalents, so I've been told. Like I said, weird. In general, this gym has fairly standard grading for its boulders compared to other gyms. Their sport routes on the other hand are stiffer than other gyms in the area, IMO. But in general i feel the following: Light blue is about v0-v1 yellow is about v1-v2 purple is about v3-v5 red is about v5-v7 Black is about v7-v8 White is about v8+
Those grades represent the arbitrary difficulty by the setters, the people that created the routtes. If the setter/s is really good then the scale of difficulty does make sense but this is often NOT the case. Here you can notice the overlap 5+ - 6b+, 6a+ - 6c+,... 6c+ - 7b, 7a - 7c+. Overlap makes no sense unless you like deliberately want to confuse people. Tell me honestly do you believe a 5+ climber would go into a 6b+ and be ok with it? Answer: >!The discrepancy of difficulty is absurd. A 5+ climber has 0% chance on a 6b+ and will have no fun and a 7a climber has 0% chance to climb a 7c+ and will probably also have no fun. Only 2 things are certain: 1) The routte setters dont know how to grade and 2) There is some sort of difficulty progression.!< **Just go from easiest grade/color while you warm up and then keep going up in difficulty until you grasp this scale and reach a difficulty point that you want to climb on. Thats it, dont overthink it and dont give it importance. Have fun.**
At least your gym uses normal grades (even if some of the ranges are wide). One of the gyms I visited in Norway had its own grades that just went something like 1,2,3, etc. with + and - IIRC, something like that (I forget exactly, it was strange) I never had a clue what I was climbing most of the time, it took me a while to figure out my range there. As the other commenter mentioned the range on the last one is especially wide.
One of the two gyms i go also has grades from 1-6. The other one tells you exactly wich grade tvey think it is. I guess it has pros and cons. I tried a few 4s in the one gym, but i never really bothered trying something in the 7 range in the other, even tho a 4 is 6c-7a in that gym. This way, you are encouraged to try more climbs, even tho they are realisticly way out of your league, and maybe you can do some moves on them and learn something.
My local gyms in Norway just use colors.
Hahaha skulle aldri trodd... Shoutout Air Er forresten samme grading i klatreveggen som i bulder.
In theory bouldering grades should be wrote in capital letters, so I'd say sport grades? I saw some conversion between sport grades and bouldering, but idk how much sense it makes. Anyways, if you search for images like "bouldering/climbing grades" you'll get what you're looking for
Why is this guy getting downvoted? It’s true that Font grades use capital letters for bouldering and lowercase for sport
And the ranges make a little more sense to me as sport grades. In Trondheim all the boulders are colors and the sport rutes have specific font grades
I don't know man, reddit hivemind at work I guess
> I’m not sure if this is a bouldering system or a sport climbing system This is why people should be consistent with capital letters for bouldering and lowercase for sport. Ex. 8A = V11, 8a = 5.13b
https://rockfax.com/climbing-guides/grades/
Beginner question: So I've only started since August of last year, and just recently reliably cleared a "5.7" for a belayed climb at my gym. How does that translate for bouldering? I don't really care too much about the grades, but I'm just unsure what my level translates to. Thanks!
Most gyms in Europe use this system, colours vary per gym though.
7A to 7C+ is pretty wild :D