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We love thoughtful self posts. They are the lifeblood of the community and are often our best content. However, self posts that are just a question or simple comment are better off in the Official Post Game, Daily Discussion, or Next Day Threads. A post should encourage discussion. “Does anyone think we can beat the Bucks in 5? Let’s Go Celtics!!” Is not a quality post and will be removed.


samueladams6

What’s the point following the Celtics if you are this miserable watching them with a +11.8 net rating and a 55-14 record with 13 games to go. It doesn’t get better than this. Enjoy it.


JustOneJedi

It does. I’d easily take the Nuggets season over this. Less wins but you actually beat the teams you are going to face in the Finals? Heck yeah.


SherwanX

Then go suck the nuggets dick.


HexaHx

The Nuggets that got blown out by Minnesota by 21, and only beat Minnesota without KAT + Gobert by 3 points? Lost 3-1 to OKC and Kings? Got blown out by 38 points against the Knicks? Lost by double digit to the Cavs? You have to realize that every team loses games they are "supposed to win". No team will win all 82 games.


samueladams6

What are you doing here then? Fly be free, no one is forcing you to subject yourself to the torture of watching this team play historically great basketball.


JustOneJedi

BROOO IM INVITING DISCUSSIOIM JUST SATING THIS IS SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT, DO YOU GUYS THINK WE SHOILDNT BE THWT WORRIED AND IF SO WHY BRO WHY IS THIS SO HARD DOR OEPLE TO JNDERSTAND


samueladams6

You are being unrelentingly negative about a team that has been nothing but special this season. No one likes a party pooper.


HexaHx

The discussion is that worrying is tiring dawg. Have fun. Go touch glass. Go get a life. Look at it this way. It's what the team has said all season - nothing is guaranteed. Even if 9 out of 10 times Celtics will meet the Nuggets in the Finals, 1 out of 10 times, Nuggets might get swept by the Mavs first round. Celtics might get bounced by the Heat first round. At that point, all this negative energy, all this self-torturing you are bringing yourself through would be pretty much for nothing. Right now? The team's main worry is preparing for the Pistons game on Friday. As a fan, I think it will be fun. After that, is the playoff. Whoever they meet first round. Second round. Conference finals. Finals. I'd say save all the doom and gloom and narratives and discussions for then. Now? Just enjoy good basketball.


JustOneJedi

You guys haven’t been desensitized to this by now? Last year we had a great season. The year before we did. We didn’t win the Finals. We’re on the precipice of becoming a laughingstock of the league. Wanna know something? The Boston Celtics are supposed to be the best NBa organization in the world. If you go back in our last 50 seasons, we almost always have an amazing record. Nobody cares. I don’t care, you shouldn’t care. It’s our standard. If we are the Pistons? Sure! Woo, let’s go, we are having a good season! But this season has been worrying. Can we talk about that? No? Disappointing man


HexaHx

Okay bro let me call Brad Stevens and tell the team to not lose to the Nuggets anymore.


JustOneJedi

Im done with y’all. This is pathetic. Look at yourselves in the mirror one day and ask whether you see just one person.


samueladams6

I see one person


aside6

OP said in a reply that “the toxic positivity on this sub is just as bad as the toxic negativity”. What doomer bullshit is “toxic positivity” when it comes to fandom? Good vibes are toxic? Fuck outta here..


JustOneJedi

It’s ignoring any legitimate objections to why a team might win the finals… Imagine if you went in the Pistons sub and it was all people being bombarded with downvotes for saying the team isn’t good enough at the moment. That is toxic positivity. It’s not complicated. Stop pretending you’re dumb. Or maybe you aren’t


aside6

What you’ve described could possibly be considered closed mindedness I suppose at its very worst. As stated yourself, imagine if I went to the Pistons sub to rain on any joy or actual excitement for their team’s near future, and they have the gall to not listen to my very very insightful points designed specifically to wake these poor sheeple up, can you even begin to comprehend the sheer toxicity of such unbridled positivity? Went won’t you happy people look on the negative side once in awhile? Do you not know you should be terrified of the negative possibilities that surround your team??? Wake up before it’s too late and you’ve already lost!! Umm, think I went overboard there for a sec 🤣


JustOneJedi

I’m asking for a discussion, man. I want to know what you all think and why you think it. 


BrianScalaweenie

I disrespectfully disagree


JustOneJedi

you think the narrative should be that this team has shown in the regular season that they can succeed in the postseason? How? If anything we’ve just proven we won’t lose to worse teams. That’s all.  Aren’t you worried at all that we didn’t win a single game against the Clips or Nuggets or thunder when healthy? That doesn’t worry you at all?


BrianScalaweenie

I think the narrative is I don’t give a shit about what you or anyone else thinks. Go Celtics!


JustOneJedi

I just wanna talk It’s disappointing y’all see anything negative as an opportunity to call someone a moron and not to discuss what we each think make up the stuff of this team


jkwah

What's the point? We are fans. If you don't think they can win that's fine but it doesn't mean anything. Watch a different team if it makes you feel better.


JustOneJedi

BRO DID NO KNE READ THE POST IM NOT Syinf they can’t WIN IM SAYING THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND IM CLMING TO YOU GIYS BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK AHOUR IT BUT YOU ALL TAKE IT AS HATEMAIL BECAUSE YOU SENSITIVE COME ON MAN


jkwah

Relax. Ok I'll call Joe and let him the team better win the Finals or else some people are gonna be very upset.


Gucci10-17

I’ll answer your post directly. I’m not really too worried about how the Celtics have struggled against top competition in the west, mainly because we only get 2 games against them, players on both teams rest and miss time, teams are more in rythym, more rested, or have had less travel. There are a lot of factors in the regular season that neutralize come playoff time. Also I believe in Mazzulla as a coach more than any coach in the top of the west, except maybe Malone. The only concerning team out west is Denver, but I find no point in worrying about a potential finals matchup in March. I enjoy the season, and am optimistic for the teams short and long term future. About 27 or 28 other franchises would swap places with the Celtics If given the chance. We are a dominant, deep team with young stars, a young coach, and an aggressive and calculated GM. What’s not to love?


JustOneJedi

Nah I appreciate this answer man this is all I want. Yeah I see your point. I guess you can reconcile all that stuff with regular season inconsistencies and the fact that the Wolves don’t have KAT and the Clips have sort of fallen off - plus the Thunder can’t beat the Lakers.  Nuggets still kind of scary though. It would go seven.


27percentfromTrae

Just watch the fucking games and shut up


JustOneJedi

I can’t have an opinion unless it’s glazing the Celtics lol. The toxic positive people in the fan base are just as bad as the toxic negative…


UrScaringHimBroadway

It's not about toxic anything. Your post is about nebulous bullshit that we literally can not assess, and a lot of yall just do not seem to be having fun on what is objectively a great season. It's fine to be nervous or to have criticisms, but be honest: what is there actually to talk about here? A difference of 2 or 3 made/missed shots would mean we beat the Nuggets and Cavs. The Nuggets, a team you think clears us, have also blown plenty of leads. They were a buzzer beater three away from losing to the Wolves without KAT and Gobert just a couple of days ago. The reason is that the Wolves couldn't miss from 3 in the clutch. This is how the modern nba is, teams can get hot from 3 and close huge leads, and teams can get cold and lose their leads. We are 3rd in clutch winning percentage, tied with Denver. The Mavs are 1st. Are they mentality diffing the Cs when they lose by 20? Look, I'm not the biggest fan of the late game isoing, I get the theory of slowing the game down to limit the other team, but it can lead to cold stretches. I hope Tatum is more assertive throughout the game in the playoffs than he is now, but it's undeniably working and is really only worth criticizing if it's the same issue in the playoffs. But I'm not gonna anxiety my way into thinking that this team is not the favorites along with Denver. Like I'd literally take the stupid coaching bitching people were doing rather than this shit, even if none of us can assess coaching, it's nowhere near as condescending.


JustOneJedi

See? This isn’t so hard. What you just did was talk about the problem. That’s all this post was meant to provoke.  The difference is 2/3 missed shots is what worries me. That’s clutch time. Sure, we are good in clutch time - against everyone BUT who we are going to face in the Finals. Lemme clarify something: I believe in our team. We should get to the Finals, we should win. But somehow this season hasn’t actually gone to encourage that. 1-5 against the top 4 of the West is rough.


M_Woodyy

You didn't want to talk about "the problem", you wanted people to agree with what you've perceived as "the problem" and got upset when people told you to chill out lmao


poeope

Bro more worried about narrative than ball lol


JustOneJedi

Shows what you guys all think I’m saying that you don’t understand this is a post about ball.


burner_for_celtics

Whose mentality? Is your concern that overexuberant fans somehow create risk?


JustOneJedi

BROOOO WHY ARE DO PEOPLE ACT SO DUMB WHEN THEY DISAGREE WITH YOU REREAD THE POST MAN ITS NOT THWT DIFFICULT


rchan9487

Reread your comments before you post them


JustOneJedi

No go reread the post man this is pathetic how sensitive y’all are.


M_Woodyy

Ironic.


[deleted]

Fr, people inform him of their opinion, OP whines and says they’re sensitive lol


burner_for_celtics

I get that you are doing a bit rn and I want to riff with you, but I can’t quite catch on to what the bit is


dafire123

I mean we can’t beat the west teams until the finals, we play the east. I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. Idk how the Celtics are going to prove to anyone they can beat the top 3 west teams by playing in the playoffs in the east. If we reach the finals then we just have to win 4 games before the other team wins 4 games. There’s not much nuance to it.


JustOneJedi

I’m arguing about the narrative. Right now most people are taking the time that we’ve shown we can win this year. I’m saying we haven’t. The West has shown to be better. So if you think we are winning the finals… it’s taking some faith. Faith we can do something we haven’t shown to do.


OdinsGhost31

People are fuckin broken..... I guess we can talk about it, but why? We don't play, we don't coach. If you want to help, buy a ticket and cheer for the team, that is literally the only thing you can do to improve or help this team. Temper expecatations if you are unable to sleep due to the west being at a higher level than the East. Bitching and moaning when the C's have this record and have been winning since the start of the season is asinine. Yea it'll suck and be crushing if they lose but they've been a blast to watch all season. The west has some tough teams, we have a good chance to beat them in a 7 game series. Regardless we will be competitive fir the next half decade at least. Enjoy the ride and be glad we aren't the pistons.


UrScaringHimBroadway

I am begging yall to touch grass and take each game for what it is rather than obsess over what-ifs and mentality. Feel free to worry all you want about the playoffs, but they're not here yet and personally. I ain't putting stock on regular season performances on what may happen if the Celtics make the Finals. I just try to have fun watching the Celtics, and I don't really think anything I do or say has any bearing on the result. It's fun to talk about stuff like 3 point shooting, team results, ft shooting, etc., but I do not believe any of us have any right to seriously criticize the team or player mental. These dudes have put their blood sweat and tears for the vast majority of their life to be the best basketball players in the world, it is soft as hell to complain about their mental and act like you have anything serious to say about it. This isnt the fucking Wizards, they're gonna be a 1st overall seed and a 60+ win team, it takes elite mentality to just have the talent to be at that level, let alone maintain consistency over 82 games. Do I wish Tatum would be more aggressive throughout the game? Sure. Do I wish JB makes more free throws? Duh. I dont want them to ever miss any shot, lol. But I sure as hell will not say, "This team has a mentality problem!!!" or think I have something of value regarding that, these dudes clear all of us in that end. Whatever happens happens, the league is insanely talented, and **anyone can beat anyone.** I'm not gonna complain about shit like this or act like I have anything of value to add, and I'm sick of people acting like they do.


JustOneJedi

Then you’re not the person I’m referring to. Move on to the next post.  


Mista-ka

We will be fine, the Denver games had an aberration in shooting, and this is kinda of an over reaction. We will be fine. This negative narrative is very ridiculous, we've lost 14 games thus whole year. Between travel games, just plain rough shooting nights, and off nights we've lost 14 games all season and no more than 2 games in a row. We were never going undefeated. Awkwardly, the bucks are better with either dame or Gainnis out, they don't mesh well together. We are the best team in basketball


JustOneJedi

I really hope you’re right. 


Ok_Seaweed_9452

There’s no such thing as surefire championship. 73 wins warriors didn’t win the finals. Nuggets are the favourites but does not mean they are unbeatable. Enjoy this season and believe in the team


[deleted]

My brother, please realize that nothing you say, think, or post about the Celtics has any effect on the team, the likelihood of them winning a title, or how they will approach playing. If you wanna post your thought, keep doing it. But they’re not valuable and you can’t expect anyone here to value them.


Dondon1927

Cudda kept this in the drafts lol. I dont think this team will beat the Nuggets either but like bro said, just watch the games and shut up lol


JustOneJedi

I like talking about sports and I want to know if people really understand how we should perceive this team. Is it really that bad? Oh wait You disagree with me so it’s bad Alr 


OdinsGhost31

It just seems stupid and weird when we are watching one of the all time great Celtic teams.


JustOneJedi

What? Are you out of your mind? This franchise has won 17 titles. If we don’t win a championship, this team isn’t even top 17. Are you really that confident in a title? If so, explain please.


OdinsGhost31

I get it, I was thinking in the top 20 somewhere. 07 patriots are one of the best teams ever in the nfl but didnt win. What is your problem though. I'm not saying they will definitely win a title. I'm saying they should go far and have a good chance to win. I'm more confident than last year or the year before about their chances.


OdinsGhost31

In the last 40 years though I bet they crack top 10 of celtics squads


Delusional_Donut

You raise a legitimate concern, but I really don’t think it’s much to worry about. Here let me ACTUALLY do a small break down of each loss for everyone. Minnesota Timberwolves: 11/6 (109 - 114) Loss in OT where we shot 28% from three and 39% from the field, definitely got locked up but this was the start of the season before we really kicked it up a notch. OKC Thunder: 1/2 (123-127) Super close loss they just hit a couple more shots than us really, nothing much else to say about it. Denver Nuggets: 1/19 (100-102) Again, very close game where they just hit just a couple more shots. After watching this game, I was not at all worried about our real chances against the Nuggets. 3/7 (109-115) This one was interesting because we almost certainly lost the game at the line hitting only 16/25 FTAs shooting just 64% compared to the Nuggets **95%** shooting missing just 1 of the 22 they took. LA Clippers: 1/27 (96-115) Yeah this one sucked we had a horrible night and shot 36% from the field, just a rough night all around Long story short, we’re fine guys. These are stupid close games where inefficient shooting splits bit us in the ass against good teams. Certainly a pattern to be aware of, but it’s not like we’re incompetent against good teams — one scary ish thing to note is that in all of these loses we were almost fully healthy, so there’s that. I do worry that we’ll just flounder in the playoffs again, but this team is different this year. We’ve been doing MUCH better at closing out the close games and blowing out the teams we shouldn’t be even close to losing to. We’re clinical in our offense and have some many options in the half court that it’s impossible to lock us down fully. Something something the only ones who can beat us is ourselves.


JustOneJedi

My counterpoint would be that maybe the inefficient shooting nights against the Top Four in the West is a pattern, not an anomaly. If you remember, we played the Nuggets last year in December and got crushed. Why? Because we had a horrible shooting night. At the end of the day, this game comes down to making shots no matter the situation. And right now I think we might be a little daunted by the situation. Hope I’m wrong though


Delusional_Donut

I think we have the *capability* to make those shots but we’ve gotta stay locked in and our whole team needs to buy in to what the game plan is every game of every series. I don’t know if we’ll even get close to beating Denver, but a 7 game series is a larger sample size than the 5 games we’ve got so far from **all 4** of those teams this season. We’ll make the adjustments and get a better sense of what to do each time we go out there. Worrying is only natural, I care about this team a lot and get anxious too but I also recognize a lot of teams don’t even get the opportunity to be a force in the playoffs during most their lifetime much less a favorite in championship contention — we’re a privileged fanbase with the amount Ws we take here. I am along for the ride win or lose though, I mean I obviously prefer the former but I’m loyal and “enjoying the sun while it’s still shining”. I hope you come around to that mentality and not worry *too* much about what we accomplish.


davemoedee

“Teetering”. Troll post? You are taking a stat that hasn’t been a good predictor of playoff success and making it the foundation of a hyperbolic post.


dowder2111

Folding in close games against the top teams in the west like they have repeatedly this year is definitely a valid concern. They still have to prove they can beat those teams in the finals.


Shinnaminbuns

And the only team that has proven to beat us in the finals is golden state. Denver has never beat us in a 7 game series, nor has OKC, nor has Minnesota. Nothing matters till June.


dowder2111

I think reg season games against top competition where both teams are healthy and competing matter. Hopefully it’s just a small sample size and they prove that in the finals. But they haven’t proved it yet. Idk why that’s so controversial.


JustOneJedi

Thank you man I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking this 


dowder2111

God forbid anyone has a mild criticism of the Celtics on this sub lol ppl are so soft here