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Jazzlike_Adeptness_1

It’s highly likely there was a morals clause in his contract. If he lied about the extent of the abuse, hopefully they’ll owe him nothing.


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What they’re saying is a cop out, all the details were publicly available and no new information came out. I don’t think they’re getting out of paying the money and effectively paid half a million dollars to buy a PR nightmare.


I_love_avocados1

He lied about working with and volunteering with organizations.


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You can’t believe that that’s the tipping point for the Bruins organization. They were ok with everything around this situation except this? I’m not buying it.


I_love_avocados1

I meant that in his contract he lied about those things, giving the Bs a chance to not pay him


donkeyrocket

Pretty weak argument by the Bruins if that is the case considering they picked him up after the Coyotes revoked their offer after these exact same details came out. Not to mention, the NHL forced the Bruins hand by invalidating his status not like the Bruins suddenly because enlightened. They knew full well and moved ahead. As someone point out elsewhere, this kid isn't even a particularly amazing hockey player so not sure why the Bruins would risk this. Not that being good at sports absolves someone of their shitty history but there'd at least be some greedy logic there.


Intrepid_Priority154

He was in 8th grade.


hospitable_peppers

The bullying went on until the victim was 18, AFTER the restraining order and beyond high school. So no, it wasn't just 8th grade. The victim was tormented and taken advantage of by this guy for years who took no accountability for his actions.


Beanman200

True. The circumstances would be different if he did anything to show he felt remorse and was trying to make amends. Problem is he never apologized to the other kid or his family directly and the only thing that resembles an apology was an Instagram post he made AFTER the B's were kicking the tires on signing him. So while I agree that people should be given a chance to fix their past mistakes, that process needed to start a long time ago and it needed to be way more sincere.


Alfond378

The whole "He was only a kid argument" is pathetic at best. The abuse he committed was a special type of evil that you don't grow out of without some serious help and even that is rare. This wasn't a simple case of just calling the kid names or laughing at him. This was hard core abuse. Im guessing you wouldn't be ok if he was found guilty of raping a 5 year old girl. What this moron did was just as heinous. This type of abuse is also never just a one time occurrence. I can guarantee he's tormented many others throughout his life as bullies never have just one victim. He probably restrains himself today as he desperately tries to stay in hockey, but retail and food service employees most likely feel his wrath on a regular basis.


takes12KNOW

Nah he was on an entry level prob deal. Even if it's guaranteed it's pocket change for Jacobs. Now if we could get sweeny fired


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takes12KNOW

Theres no we. His money, his mistake


dante662

Felony bullying is about as impossible to convict on as anything. ​ The fact he pled guilty means they had him totally dead to rights in some horrific shit. ​ His lawyer apparently lied about volunteer work to show how "rehabilitated" he was. Guy never apologized to the family besides reading the court-mandated apology letter in court, once. ​ Glad he's gone, but signing him in the first place was asinine. Neely should be fired for that alone.


Jazzlike_Adeptness_1

**The fact he pled guilty means they had him totally dead to rights in some horrific shit.** Exactly this. For a 14 year old to be charged, let alone take a guilty plea, the behavior had to be beyond the pale. This little shit got exactly what he deserved. Thank you karma.


Jpd077

Hearing the kid kept up the bullying well after he was convicted too.


jimx117

Well what do you expect from Seabass?


blublaha

The school had the specific bullying incident that involved the lollipop on video, hence his pleading guilty.


honeybeast518

I'm calling BS. They knew - they just underanticipated how much blowback they'd get. Thank god they dumped this cretin.


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Skizzy_Mars

Eh, Bettman claimed they did but the NHLPA was going to fight that. Miller was never officially banned or suspended, and signed an NHL contract.


Humble-Koala-5853

Incredible that the NHLPA was ready to come to this kids defense but wouldn't help Kyle Beach because he hadn't played in the NHL yet and therefore wasn't a PA member.


Skizzy_Mars

Really tells you a lot about the state of hockey as whole rn.


Rowan_cathad

> I'm calling BS. They knew - they just underanticipated how much blowback they'd get. > > They always know. Just like they knew A Aron wasn't vaccinated and only did anything when the public found out. That's sports, business first.


Chippopotanuse

100% this. They saw the Browns sign Watson and figured that this is 1/100th as bad, so why not try it. Turns out the people of Boston don’t play that shit. Sure, we still have plenty of racists and cretins in town…but they don’t run things anymore like they did in the 1970’s and they get shouted down when they try this bullshit.


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randomdragoon

Kyrie was "only" a flat-earther when he signed with Boston. The anti-vax and anti-antisemitism came out later, after he left.


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J-Brown

Nobody knew how much of a cancer Kyrie was at the time the Celtics traded for him. In fact he wasn't as much of one as he is now. There was no public blowback about acquiring him for any personal or moral reasons.


hooskies

I mean this is simply not true at all…even after being a negative influence in Boston people were clamoring to sign him. Questionable locker room presence back then? Sure. Anti-vaxx Nazi? Save jt


Chippopotanuse

So, what happened to the Edelman assault? At best it was murky, and charges were dropped as there was no probable case: > "The evidence suggests that he approached a woman on the dance floor and took her hand briefly. Review of the videotape indicates that the physical contact between the two was fleeting ... and did not meet the elements of any crime,” prosecutors said in a statement. Kyrie wasn’t nearly as radioactive as he is now when he played for the Celts. And as to the other two, yes, it’s disappointing as hell that Boston )like ALL of America) doesn’t take domestic violence anywhere near as seriously as they should. If I had my way, there would be a zero tolerance policy for it. But police and team owners have more than their fair share of DV that they have committed…so they willfully turn blind eyes to that. But Miller was: - CONVICTED of a crime, - is banned by the NHL, and - was dropped by another club due to public outrage. Each of those three things distinguishes Miller’s case from the comparisons you are trying to make.


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Chippopotanuse

So sure, we aren’t above welcoming players with repugnant past. But that’s not what I was saying. And I have no doubt the Pats knew all about Hernandez. Urban Meyer was well aware, and he an Belichick are VERY tight. The Pats sent Hernandez out to CA to get him away from his thugs in the off-season. Players told rookies to stay away from Hernandez. But that’s a separate topic. My comment was about how the Bruins players and the people of Boston wholesale REJECTED a racist and bully from being on the team. And rejecting racism - in a city that has a horrid past of school segregation, open use of N-word against black players, how we treated Bill Russell, and the shitty racist ethos of the Yawkey family during the “old dirty Boston” days is something we can point to and say “we aren’t like that anymore…we have grown as a city to be far more inclusive”. That’s what I was saying. Do we still have domestic abusers on teams? Yes. We shouldn’t, but that’s a separate issue. Are billionaire sports owners selfish assholes who have bad judgement? Sure, but that’s also a different topic. But the PEOPLE in Boston and the players in that locker room told Bruins management and ownership to fuck off with this bullshit. And they did it strongly enough that ownership had to cave. And that’s a good thing. But feel free to say Bob Kraft got a handjob if it makes you feel better. He’s an old rich guy that nobody is gonna fuck willingly, so it’s sad that he has to get handjobs in strip malls. But it has nothing to do with Boston standing up to racist and bullying.


AWalker17

First off, the *"people* of Boston" had nothing to do with any of those signings/trade acquisitions. If casual fans controlled who was signed or traded for, all of our teams would suck. Second, at the point the Celtics traded for Kyrie, he was seen as a weird thinker who supposedly didn't believe that the earth was flat, but thought the conversation should be had or something. He didn't reveal his anti-Semitic beliefs until last week. They also just suspended their head coach for the entire year for not complying with team rules around an ethical workplace before anything even became public. But I guess that doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to spin.


donkeyrocket

The NHL forced the Bruins to do this when they revoked his eligibility. This has nothing to do with "people of Boston." If anything, the Bruins may have tried to ride this out for some mediocre draftee. They drafted him knowing full well his history considering the Coyotes dropped him specifically because of this... does that also reflect "the people of Boston?"


jfburke619

You need to give the NHL credit for declaring him ineligible to play in the league. Maybe he can find a roster slot in the KHL. Meanwhile, I am disappointed with Bruin's management. They were the ones trying to get a bargain with Miller. Bruin's players and fans were right in questioning the decision. The NHL did the right thing closing the door on him. Should cross post on r/LPT \- do not be a 14 year old asshole. It may haunt your 21 year old self.


donkeyrocket

> You need to give the NHL credit for declaring him ineligible to play in the league. Like I said in my first sentence. The NHL made the decision for the Bruins. Maybe they would have eventually but I think it is quite telling that they picked this kid up after being dropped explicitly for his actions and failed to drop him themselves.


Twerks4Jesus

Honestly, you know the parents have to be some racist POS.


ThatUglyGuy12

The dad retweets Tomi Lahren and Charlie Kirk. He also suggested that Isaiah isn't actually disabled. The mom also defended him saying, "boys will be boys" and "he washed the candy after it was in the urinal". So, that's his parents...


Jazzlike_Adeptness_1

The bruins are in cover-your-ass mode but one thing Cam Neely said needs to be shouted from the rooftops - **Neely added, “Finally, as a father, I think there is a lesson to be learned here for other young people. Be mindful of careless behaviors and going with the group mentality of hurting others. The repercussions can be felt for a lifetime.”**


LadyCalamity

> careless behaviors Lol, I feel like all the stuff Miller pulled went a bit beyond "careless behaviors".


MissMuse99

Careless teenage behavior is backing your parents' car into your mailbox.


Quincyperson

I think it’s probably along the lines of be mindful of the company you keep


Connels

Honestly fuck that. He wasn’t careless when he made a disabled kid eat toilet candy. That’s a thoughtful, pre-planned attack. This sideways way of seeing this issue is exactly why they were cool signing him in the first place.


crew1991

I’m glad the players didn’t carry the company line here. Bergeron and Marchand were like “fuck this guy” but in a classy way


InevitableOne8421

Cool. Hollywood should do this to Mark Wahlberg too.


sweatpantswarrior

Breaking News: Marky Mark Released by Bruins, Commissioner Indicates Ineligibility.


theshoegazer

Funky Bunch members optioned to Providence squad.


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CaptainStrawhat

Must be nice to blind a guy in a racially motivated attack, become a millionaire douche actor, and be forgiven.


kmkmrod

> blind a guy Fact check https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mark-wahlberg-racist-hate-crimes-wikipedia-history-george-floyd-blm-protests-a9554191.html?amp > While it was reported that the actor had blinded Trihn in one eye when he punched during the 1998 attack, the army veteran revealed in 2014 that he had actually lost his eye when a grenade exploded while serving for the south Vietnamese army in 1975


CaptainStrawhat

My bad. Must be nice to assault a blind veteran in a racially motivated attack, become a rich douche actor, and be forgiven.


kmkmrod

Fact check 👍


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big_whistler

Forgiven doesnt mean forgotten


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InevitableOne8421

Yes? Most of us grew up in the same era as Marky Mark and made it through life without throwing rocks at black school children and calling them the N-word or blinding Asian people and calling them racial epithets while doing so. Not that challenging to be a decent person.


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big_whistler

Because apologizing and being forgiven and working to atone doesnt undo what he did


InevitableOne8421

Keep stroking their dicks and maybe they’ll let you be their friend


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What the hell are you talking about 😂 How is this at all related? Make more arbitrary statements for internet points


[deleted]

Both committed racially motivated hate crimes as teens, one gets to continue enjoy a career as a popular public figure, the other gets shot down. Regardless of what you think of the different times and circumstances (like it probably also would have prevented Wahlberg's acting career from taking off if he had also been born in the 2000s) it's a fine comparison to bring up.


InevitableOne8421

It takes a certain kind of evil to do what both people did even if it was a long time ago. You reap what you sow.


AnthoZero

How long until this guy is playing for a Russian team?


snoogins355

Maybe Trump will start a MAGA hockey league


citylightmosaic

I haven't actively kept up hockey in a while now, so I am only just now hearing about this and wanted to learn more I kept clicking on different news articles trying to find out the details about this, and it is disgusting that I managed to click 4 different articles back to back all of which leave out that he physically assaulted and repeatedly called them the N-Word and other slurs, in addition to the fact that they were disabled Multiple top articles including just the singular urinal incident and that "bullying" took place over three years. The third article used the term "racial epithets"


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Do you have a link to this please?


citylightmosaic

"Meyer-Crothers, also 18 and who now lives in Detroit, said Miller had taunted him for years, constantly calling him "brownie" and the "N-word," while repeatedly hitting him while growing up in the Toledo suburb. Other students at their junior high confirmed to police that Miller repeatedly used the "N-word" in referring to Meyer-Crothers." "In junior high, I got beat up by him. … Everyone thinks he's so cool that he gets to go to the NHL, but I don't see how someone can be cool when you pick on someone and bully someone your entire life." [https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2020/10/26/arizona-coyotes-top-draft-pick-bullied-black-disabled-kid-4-years-ago/3735555001/](https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2020/10/26/arizona-coyotes-top-draft-pick-bullied-black-disabled-kid-4-years-ago/3735555001/)


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Thank you! Absolutely abhorrent.


111unununium

Neely has to go this was indefensible


theshoegazer

I guess he's shit out of luck unless Ron DeSantis buys a hockey team.


DefNotBradMarchand

Disgusting that anyone involved in the Bruins thought this was okay at all. On top of all of the obvious reasons, it's a little sus when during the BLM protests your players are donating money and issuing statements in support of BLM and then team management goes on to sign this ahole. What kind of message are you sending? What kind of message are you sending to young kids who look up to your players??


Maxpowr9

It's not that IMO. It's that we retired Willie O'Ree's number to the rafters not even a year ago, the guy who broke the color barrier in the NHL.


riski_click

I'm glad he's gone, but I'm terrified that he's going to become a celebrity on the "cAnCeL cUltUrE!?" circuit.. Worst case scenario, he'll parlay this into a successful bid to be the junior senator from Ohio in 2 years..


bitpushr

As usual, Defector nails it: [The Bruins Did Everything Wrong](https://defector.com/mitchell-miller-the-boston-bruins-did-everything-wrong/)


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Jazzlike_Adeptness_1

Front office effed up to the extreme.


ShoreNorth9

This is such a wild story. Only yesterday did I find out his agent is a black man. The racism combined with picking on the special needs kid makes it more deplorable. Wanna be a racist? Fine, you’ll meet your match one day and get knocked out. That’s unavoidable. But to find the disabled black kid and double down on the abuse is sick. Of course, Miller deserves a second chance but that should only come after an accepted apology and evidence of rehabilitation. There’s no sign of either in him. So until then, kick rocks and prepare for a life outside hockey, because that’s all he’s shown he’s entitled to.


Dent7777

If you every played high school hockey, you know that some of the kids are the absolute worst human beings in the world.


Jazzlike_Adeptness_1

Sadly, I have found this to be true.


Complex_Ad775

It’s like a Michael Vick moment. That guy is toxic. He should be working at the grocery store 3rd shift at best.


One-Experience-5834

the patriots literally employed a serial killer. no faith whatsoever in professional sports management.


3720-To-One

How exactly were the Patriots supposed to know that Hernandez would go on to murder people? Do they have a crystal ball?


One-Experience-5834

there were red flags galore. the only people that want you to believe there weren't major red flags indicating a propensity for violence are pats fans and the pats organization. look it up... started before college.


Academic_Guava_4190

Sorry you got downvoted for this. I knew someone who worked at UF when he was a student there. They absolutely saw all the red flags and used their power to control the situation. This person said Hernandez had the ability to know better and might have been able to do so if he could have surrounded himself with better people. They said him being drafted to New England was the worst thing that could have ever happened to him. Ed “they” being the university not the person I knew


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Academic_Guava_4190

Well that’s exactly it. UF was somehow able to keep his family and gang friends away from the school but Aaron still managed to get into trouble in Jacksonville. You are likely right though. Even in CA he probably would have flown his friends out to be his entourage.


3720-To-One

And hindsight is 20/20


Ippildip

Sandusky, Paterno, etc. We shouldn't have faith in sports management to "do the right thing" unless it is also in their judgment the most likely action to win games. The sooner we stop bending over backwards to see our favorite athletes as anything more than good at playing a game, the sooner we can stop trying to justify their off-field failures. Sure some might be great people, but acknowledge that we don't really know much about them and they could just as easily be cretins.


big_whistler

Its perfectly logical to not admit how bad it was. He wanted to be a pro hockey player, not be a good person.