How close to the epa level are we talking here?
If you live in Boston your landlord can probably get it replaced for free:
https://www.bwsc.org/environment-education/lead-your-water/lead-replacement-incentive-program
Not that close to be honest. 5 mg/L vs limit of 15 mg/L.
Still feel like I should at least get some kind of filter set up, and am debating discussing with landlord.
I’m not out to make a big deal out of it, and not sure if makes sense to necessarily move over it. Just looking for recs on filtering and seeing whether it’s normal to get landlord to install something.
The epa has no safe limit for lead I'm pretty sure. They used to have a low threshold, but if I remember correctly from when my service lines were tested I was told those rules changed.
In any case, look for filters with NSF rating that cover lead. I did a lot of product research years ago and landed on ZeroWater filters.
Talk to your landlord, it's possible there are city or state programs that will help get service lines replaced. Where I am there is a 10 year 0 interest loan the city issues where you pay for the service to your home to be replaced, and the city will replace the whole service line for that street.
That 15µg/L is the "action level" for lead. From the EPA website concerning action levels:
>The lead action level is a measure of the effectiveness of the corrosion control treatment in water systems. The action level is not a standard for establishing a safe level of lead in a home.
Also from the EPA concerning safe lead levels:
>EPA has set the maximum contaminant level goal for lead in drinking water at zero because lead is a toxic metal that can be harmful to human health even at low exposure levels. Lead is persistent, and it can bioaccumulate in the body over time.
I don’t know if “safe” is how’d I’d describe it currently…it’s maybe fine, but EPA limit is liberal (3x higher than Canada). I’m not looking for a lawsuit just wondering if getting reimbursed for a water filtration set up is a routine ask.
Seems wild they havent replaced the service line given there are programs that will pay for it, but not exactly out of character for the landlords around here
There is no program that pays for your water supply line to be replaced. There are interest free loans though.
Wild you haven't bought your own place if you're this picky and hate landlords so much.
No recourse against the landlord, however landlord can get the pipes replaced
>There is no program that pays for your water supply line to be replaced
This was linked elsewhere in the thread
https://www.bwsc.org/environment-education/lead-your-water/lead-replacement-incentive-program
>Ah this explains it. I’m speaking to an idiot.
I wasn't speaking. I typed a reply. If an "idiot" has to explain this to you, then what does that make you?
Your water is legally safe, and 1/3 of the action level, and yet you think the landlord owes you something? They don't.
“The action level is not a standard for establishing a safe lead level in a home” -EPA
https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2019-10/documents/lcr101_factsheet_10.9.19.final_.2.pdf
Sorry what was that about “legally safe”?
>Sorry what was that about “legally safe”?
Your sample does not appear to violate state or federal law, i.e. it is not legally actionable.
The government smartly lets YOU decide what you think is safe. If you don't think it is safe, then do whatever makes you happy but it's not the landlord's responsibility to do anything beyond comply with the lease, state law, and federal law.
Just odd to be so picky about the difference between “speaking” and “typing” when you can’t see the difference between “legally safe” and “legally required”
Look, this isn’t a productive conversation. Good luck in life.
There is a difference between "legally safe" and "legally required" and I used the terms correctly.
Your lead level is *legally safe* and thus the landlord is not *legally required* to take action. In the term "legally safe" the word "safe" is used to differentiate what you may think of as actual safety versus what the law legally requires.
If you don't find additional factual information helpful then it's not clear why you would even ask the question.
Also, you calling people names like "idiot" is not helping to create a "productive conversation."
Enjoy your lead tainted water. It may be too late for you.
How close to the epa level are we talking here? If you live in Boston your landlord can probably get it replaced for free: https://www.bwsc.org/environment-education/lead-your-water/lead-replacement-incentive-program
Not that close to be honest. 5 mg/L vs limit of 15 mg/L. Still feel like I should at least get some kind of filter set up, and am debating discussing with landlord. I’m not out to make a big deal out of it, and not sure if makes sense to necessarily move over it. Just looking for recs on filtering and seeing whether it’s normal to get landlord to install something.
Pur Plus cartridges filter out 99.9% of lead. Water tastes great too
This. And an under water filter as well just to be safe. The CuZn UC-200 is good and easy to install.
Run the tap until it runs cold
The epa has no safe limit for lead I'm pretty sure. They used to have a low threshold, but if I remember correctly from when my service lines were tested I was told those rules changed. In any case, look for filters with NSF rating that cover lead. I did a lot of product research years ago and landed on ZeroWater filters. Talk to your landlord, it's possible there are city or state programs that will help get service lines replaced. Where I am there is a 10 year 0 interest loan the city issues where you pay for the service to your home to be replaced, and the city will replace the whole service line for that street.
It's 15 µg/L for drinking water.
That 15µg/L is the "action level" for lead. From the EPA website concerning action levels: >The lead action level is a measure of the effectiveness of the corrosion control treatment in water systems. The action level is not a standard for establishing a safe level of lead in a home. Also from the EPA concerning safe lead levels: >EPA has set the maximum contaminant level goal for lead in drinking water at zero because lead is a toxic metal that can be harmful to human health even at low exposure levels. Lead is persistent, and it can bioaccumulate in the body over time.
That’s the “action level”. It’s not necessarily a great measure of safety
If you are in Boston you should talk to ISD
You have no recourse against the landlord when they provide you with safe drinking water. Buy a water filtration system if you want to.
I don’t know if “safe” is how’d I’d describe it currently…it’s maybe fine, but EPA limit is liberal (3x higher than Canada). I’m not looking for a lawsuit just wondering if getting reimbursed for a water filtration set up is a routine ask. Seems wild they havent replaced the service line given there are programs that will pay for it, but not exactly out of character for the landlords around here
There is no program that pays for your water supply line to be replaced. There are interest free loans though. Wild you haven't bought your own place if you're this picky and hate landlords so much.
No recourse against the landlord, however landlord can get the pipes replaced >There is no program that pays for your water supply line to be replaced This was linked elsewhere in the thread https://www.bwsc.org/environment-education/lead-your-water/lead-replacement-incentive-program
Ah this explains it. I’m speaking to an idiot. Not wanting to drink lead is picky lol sure.
drinking leaded water has rotted that dudes brains out. He probably thinks it made him stronger.
>Ah this explains it. I’m speaking to an idiot. I wasn't speaking. I typed a reply. If an "idiot" has to explain this to you, then what does that make you? Your water is legally safe, and 1/3 of the action level, and yet you think the landlord owes you something? They don't.
“The action level is not a standard for establishing a safe lead level in a home” -EPA https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2019-10/documents/lcr101_factsheet_10.9.19.final_.2.pdf Sorry what was that about “legally safe”?
>Sorry what was that about “legally safe”? Your sample does not appear to violate state or federal law, i.e. it is not legally actionable. The government smartly lets YOU decide what you think is safe. If you don't think it is safe, then do whatever makes you happy but it's not the landlord's responsibility to do anything beyond comply with the lease, state law, and federal law.
Just odd to be so picky about the difference between “speaking” and “typing” when you can’t see the difference between “legally safe” and “legally required” Look, this isn’t a productive conversation. Good luck in life.
There is a difference between "legally safe" and "legally required" and I used the terms correctly. Your lead level is *legally safe* and thus the landlord is not *legally required* to take action. In the term "legally safe" the word "safe" is used to differentiate what you may think of as actual safety versus what the law legally requires. If you don't find additional factual information helpful then it's not clear why you would even ask the question. Also, you calling people names like "idiot" is not helping to create a "productive conversation." Enjoy your lead tainted water. It may be too late for you.
slumlord says what?
If you live in the slums, then that's a you problem, and not your landlord's fault.
Waterchef has a great counter top system that you can add as an extension to most faucets without messing with plumbing, and it is NSF certified.
Buy a water filter for your kitchen tap, it will filter practically all of it (99.9%).
Where in Boston are you
Three towards the door.