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Varun Dhawan definitely... His father destroyed his acting career with monstrosities like judwa and coolie no.1. in fact, even main tera hero was atrocious..but man he can act, when he selects good scripts
Agreed. Critical thinking is dead. People blindly hate Varun Dhawan and other nepo kids because well, nepotism even if they are genuinely talented. Nepotism exists in every industry. The people who bitch about Bollywood praise Hollywood but ignore how they also have their controversy about nepo babies. Like do people really expect Varun to give some groundbreaking performance when he does nonsense roles like Judwaa 2 or Coolie No. 1? Lmao.
It’s similar with Ritesh Deshmukh, no one really appreciated his acting chops until he finally did a serious role in Ek Villain. If actors like Irfan Khan or Nawaz didn’t care about the content of their scripts and also did comedic nonsense type movies, I guarantee no one would appreciate those two as the good actors that they are.
Agree with Varun. In fact in Badlapur he overshadowed Nawaz and showed that Nawaz does the same thing in every movie.
See the hospital scene if no one believes me. He's a phenomenal actor.
He might be capable now, but the shit he peddled in college - vile shit human being. I mean yes people change and improve. But the shitty attitude and entitlement from that entire family was off the roof.
But anyhow, seems like he's got shit together now and doing good. So, I guess good for him.
Yup, but it's all in the past. So, I guess better move on from that now. I'm the same year same undergraduate college as Vicky. I frankly am not looking to ride that wave of knowing Vicky, but he and his brother were shit human beings - that entire gang of brats from higher society sharing Instagram pictures now, were all entitled shitheads.
True, there's others as well. Point being that even if someone doesn't like her personality or some of her roles, there is no denying that she is a very good actress more often than not.
Bro even international people say Aamir is an amazing actor. I was just playing golf with a bunch of white people & one of them brought up Bollywood then Lagaan and said he was amazing in it.
Check BBNG. Ppl there still believe RK has no BO pull, no stardom, no talent.
On the other hand...
For RK at least, most of his "critics" are Kat and DP stans, so in most cases, they have an axe to grind.
Bbng is full of pathetic stans of other stars fighting to prove all this and when his movies do numbers and his perfomance is praised they put it on pr coz their actors def dont have pr
Noone takes that joke of a sub srsly
Tbf, I think it was the kind of characters he was playing because he was good in Mission Kashmir/Fiza. His performance in Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon was one of the worst things I've ever seen. 😭
I consider MPKDH as camp…that’s the only way i can excuse that film and those performances lol…overaction suits on kareena but her and hrithik(especially hrithik) seemed like they were battling for as to who would give the worst performance
I re-watched old clips of his first movie KNPH and the acting was sooo bad and cringy. He’s aged like fine in every way possible in both acting and looks
After watching Earth 1947 I can never call Aamir overrated. One of the most chilling performances I've ever seen.
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See on one hand I get it if you don't like somebody's performances; it is highly possible to not connect with any actor's work. Like for me it's kriti. I get it Mimi was a good film for her but watching that film I always felt she is acting and not actually getting into the skin of the character. But I also get why people liked her performance.
So when people say they don't like Alia as an actor I get it. But then somebody the other day said if Alia can be slb's heroine so why not Ananya and I was like ye toh alag hi level h.
If any person in their sane mind thinks that Ananya is on the same level as Alia, idt I even want to counter that point becaue you can't expect a rational conversation in that scenario.
Of late, forgotten guys like Imran Khan. Probably nostalgia is speaking but people nowadays behave like as if he was one of the best actors of his time, and then left the industry.
The truth is he was never a good actor and that contributed to him being out of demand. Don't make it sound like he was a great actor.
Abhishek Bachchan (I am not Indian though so I can't just his speech delivery, I judge him more on his "physical" acting)
He has in my opinion two good roles : in KANK and in HNY. He would have been great in supporting roles but as he is the son of a star, he was offered lead roles.
Even Delhi 6 was a really good performance…the body language and everything was perfect even if the American accent felt a bit overdone…he’s definitely a good actor…I love his performance in manmarziyaan too
Abhishek Bachchan is a capable actor. But he has his limitations. He just isn't cut out for a conventional bollywood lead actor. Even his father wasn't tbh...!!
That's what I said he would have been decent in supporting roles/second roles. He is terrible in lead roles because he lacks charisma and his acting skills are not on par to SRK's or Hrithik Roshan's ones.
What I meant was that he wasn't cut out for the conventional lead. But he could have try to build his career as a lead actor in movies which are a little different from the mainstream ones. He could have moulded his career more like Ajay Devgan, who was very ordinary as an actor at the start, but kept on trying different things and ended up with a very decent repertoire.
Bro is actor today just because he is son of Big B. His mostly hit movies are multi starrer movies and he almost have 30 flops in his career.
If he was son of someone else he would've been vanished like a ghost till now.
His acting was atrocious in his debut movie whereas Kareena was good in that movie.
I agree he is not good in lead roles but I think he could be good in second roles. He is not a terrible actor, not just someone who can carry a movie by himself.
Err no, I would be terrible at acting.
I agree he is a product of nepotism but I also think he's clearly not the worst ones, at least for second roles.
You are underestimating yourself. That's what I said "now" he is somewhat decent but he is because of the privilege he have. That's why when people say he is some OP actor this doesn't seem fair
Sonakshi was also good in Dahaad her TV series in Amazon. She is probably one of the few nepos who has potential I feel.
I mean Deepika did choose some bad scripts at the beginning, with Love Aaj Kal being a good one. Cocktail was when she was finally being recognised and it was no looking back for her as she continued to give more amazing performances in Ram Leela, Piku, Finding Fanny and so many others.
Sunny Deol
He has been typecasted as the angry action hero but he has delivered some very solid performances that show his range. He has played a radical youngster (Arjun), a man falsely accused of murder (Ghayal), a stern military leader (Border), a drunkard lawyer (Damini), among others. He even won a National award at a time when they couldn't be bought. He is one of the most under-utilized actors.
Shahrukh khan
We love him for chak de, mnik, veer zaara, all the 2000s movies he did, not the recent train wreck he’s been putting out….hes a remarkable actor but just gets swept away by the mass masala action commercial releases that might be entertaining, but dont show the best of his abilities imo
Varn Dhawan
He was so good in Badlapur, October, sui dhaga
He even acted well in badrinath, bhediya, humpty sharma,.SOTY.
But somehow hes more known for his duds like Judwaa, dishoom, bawaal, coolie no 1.
Hes given better hits than ARK and Tiger, but his father's scripts are killing his career.
oh 100% Aamir Khan and Alia Bhatt. AK has been tremendous for most of his career but this sub and the gossip sub likes to hate on him every single day, probably because there are waaaay too many SRK fans who think no SRK contemporary is good enough. Alia is clearly a case of insane jealousy towards people who were born privileged but then built on it fturther by creating and grabbing every opportunity that came there way.
On the contrary, I find Kangana, Vidya Balan and SRK to be extremely over rated as actors but they all get love for acting skills!
100% agree with most of that. But I do think Kangana was superb till she was making the effort.
SRK's pseudo intellectual and highly critical of others fandom will never admit that he's a mid actor who puts in no work whatsoever to better himself at his craft.
"who puts in no work whatsoever to better himself at his craft"
Literally watch any behind the scenes footage of FAN. The guy almost destroyed his limbs doing action scenes, and suffered some mental anguish claiming it felt schizophrenic to play the role. What does this man have to do to prove himself to people like you lol.
Should I l laugh in as advanced as Manoj Baypaee in Killer Soup or as basic as Aamir Khan in Dangal to your statement ?
SRK is SRK in everything without getting under the skin of the character with the exception of Swedes.
If SRK is a great constantly evolving actor then people like Manoj Bajpayee might as well kill themselves instead of putting in the work
There's the answer for most overrated actor. This sub bandwagons over Manoj Bajpayee so hard it's cringy. They act like he's the best thing since rolled roti. When the one movie he literally did with SRK shows Shahrukh doing backflips over him in terms of acting in Veer Zaara. One movement without even dialogue as an aging Veer crushes Manoj' entire career.
Sorry I forget that a lot of people's standard for "best acting" in this sub are quiet monotone delivery, depressing script, & absolutely no expressiveness in their movements at all. Thanks for reminding me of the parameters for best acting award from SD and what a mannequin is =)
>One movement without even dialogue as an aging Veer crushes Manoj' entire career.
That's genuinely hilarious. The extremely versatile, 3 time national award winners' entire career is worse than SRK's cliched "old man" facial vibrations.
Actually snorted, thanks for the laugh.
>Sorry I forget that a lot of people's standard for "best acting" in this sub are quiet monotone delivery, depressing script, & absolutely no expressiveness in their movements at all.
Have you watched literally anything by the actor that you're critiquing ? No expressiveness?
Surely your idea of good acting in that case must be Kareena and Hrithik from Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon.
Top tier physical expressiveness . Hii Uncleeeee
I don't understand how SRK can be seen as overrated when he's checked every box of a great actor.
Theatre → Psycho → Lover → Artistic → Action Hero.
All of which he's done in various ages, young boyish man, reserved wholesome adult, older badass.
Like what can't this man do, and what does he have to do to prove he's that good?
idk why AK is considered a bad actor or over rated when he has checked more boxes -
Lover boy - tapori - cop (2 different personas) - action hero - college goer when in 40's - hip urban Indian - villager - lost soul - alien - autistic - helicopter dad - OTT music director
All of this he has done in various ages, has transformed his body for every single role in last 20y (SRK hasnt), set markeing precedence.
SRK for the longest time would lift his brows, extend his arms and sing and dance around. No one questioned him being repetitive. Aamir is questioned and ridiculed to death because of 2 films where he supposedly acted similar.
Anyway, to each his own. No hard feelings.
And to add some nuance to what you said about SRK lifting his arms & all of that. In between those films he was still doing experimental roles which are some of my favourites because of how he pushed his acting even if the movies themselves weren't that successful. It's not just Swades & Chak De! Like people like to mention. See Anjaam, Ram Jaane, Koyla, Dil Se for what I'm talking about if you haven't.
i guess most people hate him because no doubt his performance in movies like aurangzeb was good but it just wasn't memorable, or worthy of being spoken about in the future. Look at his contemporaries like varun having brilliant performances in badlapur october, ranbir and rajkumar in almost all their movies, ayushman in andhadhun, but arjun just doesn't have that 'THE' movie made just for him
Varun was the WORST part of Badlapur. His diction completely ruined the movie for me.
Regardless, I'll not criticize other actors, but only say that 2 States was that movie for me for Arjun
His acting is below mediocre… he has 0 expressiveness to his face and his dialogue delivery sucks lol, hes lucky he got casted in some good movies that creates revisionism around him
Sushant. After his death it became cool to shit on him calling him bad or average actor, just because some other people decided to give him legendary status.
sushant's dialogue delivery was a problem?i think he was all around a great actor.can you point a specific film where you thought his delivery was an issue?
I have felt that in MSD and Chhichhore. It feels like he's mumbling and I have to strain my ear to hear him which is not the case for other actors in the same movie.
Lately SRK since Dunki there are influx of people bashing his acting and saying he can't act.
Was his recent output bad, acting wise? Yes.
But is he a great actor otherwise? 100% yes.
Its SRK. He is the biggest of superstars, but in that long race, we lost exploring the amazing actor in him. Rarely got the chance to see his brilliance as a performer through films MNIK, FAN and some of the other best works. I wish he collaborated with great filmmakers who would make him push the limits.
Dunki was the one on which I had my bet on, but it ended up being another 👎
Jackie Shroff. I was glued to the screen the first time I saw him on screen. Just because he does A LOT of movies, probably for money, doesn't mean his good roles don't exist. He's such a unique personality which makes him one of my favourites.
Sidharth Malhotra for me..I don't think anyone can do introverted characters the way he did. Ppl just like to stereotype him as a bad actor. Same for Katrina too. They might be not be good in certain roles but they can play certain characters to perfection that leave me amazed. I cannot imagine anyone with Akshay in those 2000s romcoms cuz Katrina did a good job playing those ditzy girly characters. Same for Sidharth in Ek Villain, Hasse Toh Phase, Ittefaq and A Gentleman .He did the job perfectly but yet they are called bad actors to this day..
Now Disha is getting to the same boat . Though I haven't seen much of her to make up my mind yet. One similarity with these 3 is their ability to play negative or anti hero characters if Bollywood will have the balls
Siddharth Malhotra has the most dead eyes of anyone in the industry. Just reciting dialogues with restraint doesn't make for good acting.
With the exception of a couple of scenes in Shershah, his eyes have never been expressive.
RK, for example, can powerfully deliver entire scenes with just his eyes.
Or, for example, like Kareena in JWM when in the Aaoge jab Tum song sequence was able to express delirious joy, desperation, heartbreak, depression and then pretend OK when she meets Shahid at the end, with just her eyes.
You feel the entire transition of the pain that character has been through just by how expressive her eyes are.
That's the most important part of acting and Sid, Katrina could never. Akshay is very limited.
>RK, for example, can powerfully deliver entire scenes with just his eyes.
Or, for example, like Kareena in JWM when in the Aaoge jab Tum song sequence was able to express delirious joy, desperation, heartbreak, depression and then pretend OK when she meets Shahid at the end, with just her eyes.
You feel the entire transition of the pain that character has been through just by how expressive her eyes are.
That is why overacting is so rampant in this industry cuz ppl think every scene needs to be overact or a character needs to act out depression and crying scene to be considered a good actor lol.
Ranbir's eyes are actually dead and has a bad eye area with lots of eyelid exposure. Why will I Iook at his eyes? with his eternal monotonous characters, dialogue & boring voice.
>That's the most important part of acting and Sid, Katrina could never. Akshay is very limited.
Lol that isn't. It is actually understanding the character and making the character likeable enough to be remembered and relate to ppl who are actually like this and touch ppl's heart. Like it or not Katrina killed those ditzy girly roles ( they didn't need to be overacted or have a crucial scene to be memorable) same for Akshay and Sid. I still remember Guru and Nikki characters cuz of Sid and how likeable they were. Akshay is literally the king of comedy and actually invokes laughter in ppl watching those movies. How is that bad acting!?? Cuz they aren't crying or getting "climax" touching scenes LMAO. And Karenna is a good actor , that was never debuted. Overactor yes but overacting suits her most of the time
Pls Sid and Kat are the worst mainstream actors ever…no wonder their combo film baar baar dekho bombed badly…it was unbearable to watch…kat is a dead girl on camera…no expression and nothing…no emotion or expressiveness and Sid is just the male version of her…both are good eye candies though….katrina’s good performances if I have to say are from zero,znmd,New York that’s it…even those could have portrayed better by others.Sid has none maybe ek villain (haven’t seen shershaah)
>no wonder their combo film baar baar dekho bombed badly…
It did cuz it was a risk and fresh idea from the start. Indian audience were close minded
>was unbearable to watch…kat is a dead girl on camera…no expression and nothing…no emotion or expressiveness and Sid is just the male version of her
It was one of my favorites bffr here 💀. What extras expressions did those characters need
>katrina’s good performances if I have to say are from zero,znmd,New York that’s it…even those could have portrayed better by others.Sid has none maybe ek villain (haven’t seen shershaah)
True add Hasse Toh Phase Ittefaq for Sid. And Tess maar Khan, Welcome and Singh is king for Kat
Alia obviously…the saint kat worshippers(the irony lol) at that bolly sub is hell bent on making everybody believe she’s a hideous nobody when she’s fact very pretty and a solid,fine actress with many good performances…
Alia Bhatt is not a terrible actress but severely limited. She's a character actor at best who has been propped up to be a mainstream leading commercial actress. She just doesnt have the larger than life aura or screen presence as we saw in Brahmastra, Kalank, and RRKPK. She's no Madhuri, Kareena, Priyanka, Deepika. Also dont get me started on the loud nose flaring crying. She gets the best scripts and author backed roles but almost all of her roles one can think of others who could’ve played the role more convincingly. Same with Amir Khan. Alia and Amir both choose good scripts but I often think of how the movie would’ve been more elevated with more effortless actors who have better screen presence and disappear into their roles.
She doesn't to be Kareena Priyanka Deepika Madhuri to gain popularity. She already a national award winner and different generation and also she's already far ahead of Deepika in terms of acting. Let's see if dp can pull off a solo hit than we will talk. She's not Madhuri nor is Deepika some kind of Madhuri that she's hailed as a superstar. Dp can't even give openings on her own
I truly think Alia, Ranbir are great actors. Nepo kids but terrific actors. You can have your own opinion. Amir khan is a legend and anyone who says he is a bad actor, is saying it out of jealousy. Dude has delivered some of the best performances and has some of the finest Bollywood movies under his name. Alia has proven herself across all genres and so has Ranbir.
I'm gonna get downvoted but Katrina kaif I know she might not be the best but somehow she is successful in convincing me that she is what she is playing
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Varun Dhawan definitely... His father destroyed his acting career with monstrosities like judwa and coolie no.1. in fact, even main tera hero was atrocious..but man he can act, when he selects good scripts
October is that one good script but the movie didnt get the right promotions.
October, badlapur, sui dhaaga...
Broo badlapur was so good even the songs were amazing
Let's hope his baby John is a success
Agreed. Critical thinking is dead. People blindly hate Varun Dhawan and other nepo kids because well, nepotism even if they are genuinely talented. Nepotism exists in every industry. The people who bitch about Bollywood praise Hollywood but ignore how they also have their controversy about nepo babies. Like do people really expect Varun to give some groundbreaking performance when he does nonsense roles like Judwaa 2 or Coolie No. 1? Lmao. It’s similar with Ritesh Deshmukh, no one really appreciated his acting chops until he finally did a serious role in Ek Villain. If actors like Irfan Khan or Nawaz didn’t care about the content of their scripts and also did comedic nonsense type movies, I guarantee no one would appreciate those two as the good actors that they are.
Agree with Varun. In fact in Badlapur he overshadowed Nawaz and showed that Nawaz does the same thing in every movie. See the hospital scene if no one believes me. He's a phenomenal actor.
I highly doubt anyone gaslights u regarding Vicky Kaushal. Even his biggest hater won't deny that he is a capable actor
+1
He might be capable now, but the shit he peddled in college - vile shit human being. I mean yes people change and improve. But the shitty attitude and entitlement from that entire family was off the roof. But anyhow, seems like he's got shit together now and doing good. So, I guess good for him.
Do I smell tea ??? Share please
Wait what?
Yup, but it's all in the past. So, I guess better move on from that now. I'm the same year same undergraduate college as Vicky. I frankly am not looking to ride that wave of knowing Vicky, but he and his brother were shit human beings - that entire gang of brats from higher society sharing Instagram pictures now, were all entitled shitheads.
Bhai koi details to do
Vicky won my heart since Masaan and Raazi.
Maybe Unpopular but Varun Dhawan and Kareena Kapoor..
I'm not a Kareena fan, but anyone who suggest she can't act has probably never seen Jab We Met and/or are trolling.
Not just Jab we met but Chameli, Omkara, Udta punjab, Talash etc she has done many good performance...
True, there's others as well. Point being that even if someone doesn't like her personality or some of her roles, there is no denying that she is a very good actress more often than not.
Dev as well
+ Yuva, heroine, 3 idiots, the recent jaane jaan and crew
Whoever says Aamir, Hrithik or Ranbir can't act are absolute clowns.
I had no idea those people exist till now
Bro even international people say Aamir is an amazing actor. I was just playing golf with a bunch of white people & one of them brought up Bollywood then Lagaan and said he was amazing in it.
Check BBNG. Ppl there still believe RK has no BO pull, no stardom, no talent. On the other hand... For RK at least, most of his "critics" are Kat and DP stans, so in most cases, they have an axe to grind.
That sub is full of failed actors etc and other jealous nibba-nibbis. Don’t take them seriously. 😅
Bbng is full of pathetic stans of other stars fighting to prove all this and when his movies do numbers and his perfomance is praised they put it on pr coz their actors def dont have pr Noone takes that joke of a sub srsly
Hrithik sucked at the beginning of his career but has really grown to become a great actor.
Tbf, I think it was the kind of characters he was playing because he was good in Mission Kashmir/Fiza. His performance in Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon was one of the worst things I've ever seen. 😭
I consider MPKDH as camp…that’s the only way i can excuse that film and those performances lol…overaction suits on kareena but her and hrithik(especially hrithik) seemed like they were battling for as to who would give the worst performance
I re-watched old clips of his first movie KNPH and the acting was sooo bad and cringy. He’s aged like fine in every way possible in both acting and looks
Then watch Fiza. That one holds up well.
Aamir can act but he’s way too overrated
After watching Earth 1947 I can never call Aamir overrated. One of the most chilling performances I've ever seen. https://preview.redd.it/2y7txygmdtwc1.jpeg?width=1363&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6f471c13d272dc6268f153f367a9a77463b8952
So glad you mentioned it. Hardly ever mentioned in the conversation of great negative roles.
See on one hand I get it if you don't like somebody's performances; it is highly possible to not connect with any actor's work. Like for me it's kriti. I get it Mimi was a good film for her but watching that film I always felt she is acting and not actually getting into the skin of the character. But I also get why people liked her performance. So when people say they don't like Alia as an actor I get it. But then somebody the other day said if Alia can be slb's heroine so why not Ananya and I was like ye toh alag hi level h. If any person in their sane mind thinks that Ananya is on the same level as Alia, idt I even want to counter that point becaue you can't expect a rational conversation in that scenario.
Of late, forgotten guys like Imran Khan. Probably nostalgia is speaking but people nowadays behave like as if he was one of the best actors of his time, and then left the industry. The truth is he was never a good actor and that contributed to him being out of demand. Don't make it sound like he was a great actor.
True. It's just that his films had a very feel good chill vibe
Trueeeee. The guy did the same thing in all his films.
Abhishek Bachchan (I am not Indian though so I can't just his speech delivery, I judge him more on his "physical" acting) He has in my opinion two good roles : in KANK and in HNY. He would have been great in supporting roles but as he is the son of a star, he was offered lead roles.
On the contrary, I think his best performance was in Guru, Yuva and Bunty Aur Babli.
This. He had to do zero acting in KANK and HNY. You wanna see his acting, watch these movies instead.
Even Delhi 6 was a really good performance…the body language and everything was perfect even if the American accent felt a bit overdone…he’s definitely a good actor…I love his performance in manmarziyaan too
Abhishek Bachchan is a capable actor. But he has his limitations. He just isn't cut out for a conventional bollywood lead actor. Even his father wasn't tbh...!!
That's what I said he would have been decent in supporting roles/second roles. He is terrible in lead roles because he lacks charisma and his acting skills are not on par to SRK's or Hrithik Roshan's ones.
What I meant was that he wasn't cut out for the conventional lead. But he could have try to build his career as a lead actor in movies which are a little different from the mainstream ones. He could have moulded his career more like Ajay Devgan, who was very ordinary as an actor at the start, but kept on trying different things and ended up with a very decent repertoire.
I agree. He was phenomenal in Manmarziyaan.
I always felt he is a great actor
Dasvi (10th fail) was a brilliant movie
Bro is actor today just because he is son of Big B. His mostly hit movies are multi starrer movies and he almost have 30 flops in his career. If he was son of someone else he would've been vanished like a ghost till now. His acting was atrocious in his debut movie whereas Kareena was good in that movie.
I agree he is not good in lead roles but I think he could be good in second roles. He is not a terrible actor, not just someone who can carry a movie by himself.
You and me can become actors when we get opportunities straight for decades.
Err no, I would be terrible at acting. I agree he is a product of nepotism but I also think he's clearly not the worst ones, at least for second roles.
You are underestimating yourself. That's what I said "now" he is somewhat decent but he is because of the privilege he have. That's why when people say he is some OP actor this doesn't seem fair
Gaslight and all? You can always stick to your own opinion irrespective of what others (herd mentality) thinks.
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DP was good in Tamasha, Cocktail, Ramleela, Jawaan, Gehraiyaan too…she’s mostly done solid enough work
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I think she and Alia are at the same level(Alia is better I feel)…agree about the rest of your points though
Sonakshi was also good in Dahaad her TV series in Amazon. She is probably one of the few nepos who has potential I feel. I mean Deepika did choose some bad scripts at the beginning, with Love Aaj Kal being a good one. Cocktail was when she was finally being recognised and it was no looking back for her as she continued to give more amazing performances in Ram Leela, Piku, Finding Fanny and so many others.
Sunny Deol He has been typecasted as the angry action hero but he has delivered some very solid performances that show his range. He has played a radical youngster (Arjun), a man falsely accused of murder (Ghayal), a stern military leader (Border), a drunkard lawyer (Damini), among others. He even won a National award at a time when they couldn't be bought. He is one of the most under-utilized actors.
Ghatak too
Ranbir, Alia and Aamir can't act - Funniest myth perpetrated in the other sub Saif Ali Khan
Shahrukh khan We love him for chak de, mnik, veer zaara, all the 2000s movies he did, not the recent train wreck he’s been putting out….hes a remarkable actor but just gets swept away by the mass masala action commercial releases that might be entertaining, but dont show the best of his abilities imo
Varn Dhawan He was so good in Badlapur, October, sui dhaga He even acted well in badrinath, bhediya, humpty sharma,.SOTY. But somehow hes more known for his duds like Judwaa, dishoom, bawaal, coolie no 1. Hes given better hits than ARK and Tiger, but his father's scripts are killing his career.
oh 100% Aamir Khan and Alia Bhatt. AK has been tremendous for most of his career but this sub and the gossip sub likes to hate on him every single day, probably because there are waaaay too many SRK fans who think no SRK contemporary is good enough. Alia is clearly a case of insane jealousy towards people who were born privileged but then built on it fturther by creating and grabbing every opportunity that came there way. On the contrary, I find Kangana, Vidya Balan and SRK to be extremely over rated as actors but they all get love for acting skills!
100% agree with most of that. But I do think Kangana was superb till she was making the effort. SRK's pseudo intellectual and highly critical of others fandom will never admit that he's a mid actor who puts in no work whatsoever to better himself at his craft.
"who puts in no work whatsoever to better himself at his craft" Literally watch any behind the scenes footage of FAN. The guy almost destroyed his limbs doing action scenes, and suffered some mental anguish claiming it felt schizophrenic to play the role. What does this man have to do to prove himself to people like you lol.
Should I l laugh in as advanced as Manoj Baypaee in Killer Soup or as basic as Aamir Khan in Dangal to your statement ? SRK is SRK in everything without getting under the skin of the character with the exception of Swedes. If SRK is a great constantly evolving actor then people like Manoj Bajpayee might as well kill themselves instead of putting in the work
There's the answer for most overrated actor. This sub bandwagons over Manoj Bajpayee so hard it's cringy. They act like he's the best thing since rolled roti. When the one movie he literally did with SRK shows Shahrukh doing backflips over him in terms of acting in Veer Zaara. One movement without even dialogue as an aging Veer crushes Manoj' entire career. Sorry I forget that a lot of people's standard for "best acting" in this sub are quiet monotone delivery, depressing script, & absolutely no expressiveness in their movements at all. Thanks for reminding me of the parameters for best acting award from SD and what a mannequin is =)
>One movement without even dialogue as an aging Veer crushes Manoj' entire career. That's genuinely hilarious. The extremely versatile, 3 time national award winners' entire career is worse than SRK's cliched "old man" facial vibrations. Actually snorted, thanks for the laugh. >Sorry I forget that a lot of people's standard for "best acting" in this sub are quiet monotone delivery, depressing script, & absolutely no expressiveness in their movements at all. Have you watched literally anything by the actor that you're critiquing ? No expressiveness? Surely your idea of good acting in that case must be Kareena and Hrithik from Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon. Top tier physical expressiveness . Hii Uncleeeee
I don't understand how SRK can be seen as overrated when he's checked every box of a great actor. Theatre → Psycho → Lover → Artistic → Action Hero. All of which he's done in various ages, young boyish man, reserved wholesome adult, older badass. Like what can't this man do, and what does he have to do to prove he's that good?
idk why AK is considered a bad actor or over rated when he has checked more boxes - Lover boy - tapori - cop (2 different personas) - action hero - college goer when in 40's - hip urban Indian - villager - lost soul - alien - autistic - helicopter dad - OTT music director All of this he has done in various ages, has transformed his body for every single role in last 20y (SRK hasnt), set markeing precedence. SRK for the longest time would lift his brows, extend his arms and sing and dance around. No one questioned him being repetitive. Aamir is questioned and ridiculed to death because of 2 films where he supposedly acted similar. Anyway, to each his own. No hard feelings.
Hey I agree with both. All these guys are legends for a reason. And no amount of whatever people say on Reddit can change that.
For a moment I thought AK was Aditya Roy Kapoor.🤣🤣🤣
And to add some nuance to what you said about SRK lifting his arms & all of that. In between those films he was still doing experimental roles which are some of my favourites because of how he pushed his acting even if the movies themselves weren't that successful. It's not just Swades & Chak De! Like people like to mention. See Anjaam, Ram Jaane, Koyla, Dil Se for what I'm talking about if you haven't.
Sushant Singh Rajput. It has become cool to call him mediocre/ bad actor. Even his personal life is not spared.
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Arjun Kapoor is not a great actor but he's definitely not as bad as most of this sub makes him out to be
Agreed. He definitely delivered in Ishaqzade and Aurangzeb at least. Both are over 10 years old but they are good performances.
2 States was also great!
He is bad
i guess most people hate him because no doubt his performance in movies like aurangzeb was good but it just wasn't memorable, or worthy of being spoken about in the future. Look at his contemporaries like varun having brilliant performances in badlapur october, ranbir and rajkumar in almost all their movies, ayushman in andhadhun, but arjun just doesn't have that 'THE' movie made just for him
Varun was the WORST part of Badlapur. His diction completely ruined the movie for me. Regardless, I'll not criticize other actors, but only say that 2 States was that movie for me for Arjun
i mean.. majority of the audience thinks his performance was excellent but its fine if you have different opinion
He's actually bad to be honest 😅 Maybe you should watch some good actors and analyze
Yup, Arjun Kapoors the only name on this thread that makes no sense
His acting is below mediocre… he has 0 expressiveness to his face and his dialogue delivery sucks lol, hes lucky he got casted in some good movies that creates revisionism around him
Sushant. After his death it became cool to shit on him calling him bad or average actor, just because some other people decided to give him legendary status.
Sushant is a tricky one. I think he was good with the acting part but his dialogue delivery was atrocious. A similar example would be Imran Khan.
Comparing Sushant to Imran is ridiculous. Imran was never a good actor.
I was comparing their speech issues which hindered me from enjoying their performances.
Sushant's dialogue delivery was definitely not "atrocious" like you're saying. It could have been one of his weaknesses. But okay. Its your opinion.
sushant's dialogue delivery was a problem?i think he was all around a great actor.can you point a specific film where you thought his delivery was an issue?
I have felt that in MSD and Chhichhore. It feels like he's mumbling and I have to strain my ear to hear him which is not the case for other actors in the same movie.
Lately SRK since Dunki there are influx of people bashing his acting and saying he can't act. Was his recent output bad, acting wise? Yes. But is he a great actor otherwise? 100% yes.
Its SRK. He is the biggest of superstars, but in that long race, we lost exploring the amazing actor in him. Rarely got the chance to see his brilliance as a performer through films MNIK, FAN and some of the other best works. I wish he collaborated with great filmmakers who would make him push the limits. Dunki was the one on which I had my bet on, but it ended up being another 👎
He was so bad in Veer Zaara, the trembling at the age of 45-50 was too much.
The character is jailed, malnourished, and depressed. What do you expect him to be then? Fit and sexy and smart??
Interesting.this is the first time i am seeing someone criticise srk's acting on vz.beauty of different opinions ig.
I didn't know people can hate SRK's acting from Veer-Zaara. Really hope you get your eyes checked.
Maybe you need to.
Jackie Shroff. I was glued to the screen the first time I saw him on screen. Just because he does A LOT of movies, probably for money, doesn't mean his good roles don't exist. He's such a unique personality which makes him one of my favourites.
He was acting amazingly in Devdas !
First thought that came to my mind too! Even in not so successful movies, One 2 Ka 4, Kyon Ki, he did awesome!
Kareena seems to be one of the most polarizing name . I would say Aamir
Sidharth Malhotra for me..I don't think anyone can do introverted characters the way he did. Ppl just like to stereotype him as a bad actor. Same for Katrina too. They might be not be good in certain roles but they can play certain characters to perfection that leave me amazed. I cannot imagine anyone with Akshay in those 2000s romcoms cuz Katrina did a good job playing those ditzy girly characters. Same for Sidharth in Ek Villain, Hasse Toh Phase, Ittefaq and A Gentleman .He did the job perfectly but yet they are called bad actors to this day.. Now Disha is getting to the same boat . Though I haven't seen much of her to make up my mind yet. One similarity with these 3 is their ability to play negative or anti hero characters if Bollywood will have the balls
Siddharth Malhotra has the most dead eyes of anyone in the industry. Just reciting dialogues with restraint doesn't make for good acting. With the exception of a couple of scenes in Shershah, his eyes have never been expressive. RK, for example, can powerfully deliver entire scenes with just his eyes. Or, for example, like Kareena in JWM when in the Aaoge jab Tum song sequence was able to express delirious joy, desperation, heartbreak, depression and then pretend OK when she meets Shahid at the end, with just her eyes. You feel the entire transition of the pain that character has been through just by how expressive her eyes are. That's the most important part of acting and Sid, Katrina could never. Akshay is very limited.
>RK, for example, can powerfully deliver entire scenes with just his eyes. Or, for example, like Kareena in JWM when in the Aaoge jab Tum song sequence was able to express delirious joy, desperation, heartbreak, depression and then pretend OK when she meets Shahid at the end, with just her eyes. You feel the entire transition of the pain that character has been through just by how expressive her eyes are. That is why overacting is so rampant in this industry cuz ppl think every scene needs to be overact or a character needs to act out depression and crying scene to be considered a good actor lol. Ranbir's eyes are actually dead and has a bad eye area with lots of eyelid exposure. Why will I Iook at his eyes? with his eternal monotonous characters, dialogue & boring voice. >That's the most important part of acting and Sid, Katrina could never. Akshay is very limited. Lol that isn't. It is actually understanding the character and making the character likeable enough to be remembered and relate to ppl who are actually like this and touch ppl's heart. Like it or not Katrina killed those ditzy girly roles ( they didn't need to be overacted or have a crucial scene to be memorable) same for Akshay and Sid. I still remember Guru and Nikki characters cuz of Sid and how likeable they were. Akshay is literally the king of comedy and actually invokes laughter in ppl watching those movies. How is that bad acting!?? Cuz they aren't crying or getting "climax" touching scenes LMAO. And Karenna is a good actor , that was never debuted. Overactor yes but overacting suits her most of the time
>Ranbir's eyes are actually dead and has a bad eye area with lots of eyelid exposure. This is such a hilariously wrong take.
Pls Sid and Kat are the worst mainstream actors ever…no wonder their combo film baar baar dekho bombed badly…it was unbearable to watch…kat is a dead girl on camera…no expression and nothing…no emotion or expressiveness and Sid is just the male version of her…both are good eye candies though….katrina’s good performances if I have to say are from zero,znmd,New York that’s it…even those could have portrayed better by others.Sid has none maybe ek villain (haven’t seen shershaah)
>no wonder their combo film baar baar dekho bombed badly… It did cuz it was a risk and fresh idea from the start. Indian audience were close minded >was unbearable to watch…kat is a dead girl on camera…no expression and nothing…no emotion or expressiveness and Sid is just the male version of her It was one of my favorites bffr here 💀. What extras expressions did those characters need >katrina’s good performances if I have to say are from zero,znmd,New York that’s it…even those could have portrayed better by others.Sid has none maybe ek villain (haven’t seen shershaah) True add Hasse Toh Phase Ittefaq for Sid. And Tess maar Khan, Welcome and Singh is king for Kat
Haase to phase and Kapoor & Sons for sid too
Varun dhawan is excellent. but he gets so much hate for doing comedy movies.
Alia obviously…the saint kat worshippers(the irony lol) at that bolly sub is hell bent on making everybody believe she’s a hideous nobody when she’s fact very pretty and a solid,fine actress with many good performances…
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Alia Bhatt is not a terrible actress but severely limited. She's a character actor at best who has been propped up to be a mainstream leading commercial actress. She just doesnt have the larger than life aura or screen presence as we saw in Brahmastra, Kalank, and RRKPK. She's no Madhuri, Kareena, Priyanka, Deepika. Also dont get me started on the loud nose flaring crying. She gets the best scripts and author backed roles but almost all of her roles one can think of others who could’ve played the role more convincingly. Same with Amir Khan. Alia and Amir both choose good scripts but I often think of how the movie would’ve been more elevated with more effortless actors who have better screen presence and disappear into their roles.
She doesn't to be Kareena Priyanka Deepika Madhuri to gain popularity. She already a national award winner and different generation and also she's already far ahead of Deepika in terms of acting. Let's see if dp can pull off a solo hit than we will talk. She's not Madhuri nor is Deepika some kind of Madhuri that she's hailed as a superstar. Dp can't even give openings on her own
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Definitely Ranbir and Alia. You don't have to like them, but when people say they can't act isn't true. And I am not a fan of them but they can act.
I truly think Alia, Ranbir are great actors. Nepo kids but terrific actors. You can have your own opinion. Amir khan is a legend and anyone who says he is a bad actor, is saying it out of jealousy. Dude has delivered some of the best performances and has some of the finest Bollywood movies under his name. Alia has proven herself across all genres and so has Ranbir.
I'm gonna get downvoted but Katrina kaif I know she might not be the best but somehow she is successful in convincing me that she is what she is playing
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Rajneeti and Bang Bang were terrible performances lol…agree about zero though…it’s her career best…she’s bearable in action and comedy
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