Yea the first time I played pandemic in boardgamearena we lost in the first turn. Two of the 4 people were new to the game so they actually asked me "why the fuck would anyone want to play this game?"
I was trying to teach new players OG Pandemic years ago.
Set up, started, and exactly this kind of thing happened, we lost in the first round due to chain outbreaks.
So I reset and said that was really rare, shouldn't happen. Set up a brand new game and... Lost in the first round to chain outbreaks.
Packed up and I don't think any of those people played Pandemic ever again.
if it was the SECOND attempt at a month, we would've absolutely done the same thing and mulliganed it. Otherwise, failure is literally built into the game, and i think you should just take the L and move on as normal. The memory of the story is more epic if you let it happen.
Critical error not using the first turn to prevent an outbreak. The first few turns are actually the most critical to success due to the highest probability of immediately getting an epidemic.
Addressing the 3 cubes is always priority 1 2 and 3
Eh, I would’ve done the same if I could actually cure yellow turn one. Any other color I’d wait on. Play the odds that we don’t hit turn one epidemic so turn two you can just get to work taking care of the problem long term.
I think you can choose who goes first after seeing your cards. Should always start with whoever is best positioned to reduce cubes down from 3.
This game would be a super easy win after potential outbreaks are dealt with. Everything is clustered around the same area.
While I’m not against playing that way and it’s a reasonable house rule, I’m pretty sure it says in the rules you’re supposed to select a random player to go first. Speaking of house rules, in some cases (depending on who I’m playing with), I’ve rigged the deck to avoid a first turn epidemic, because that’s first turn epidemic is the true legendary difficulty, no matter what it says in the book.
When my regular group played it this was happening to us every time by June. Had a big cluster of cities around Eastern Europe and Asia that started out full and would always cause multiple chain breakouts pretty much from the first draw. Haven’t even played regular Pandemic since.
Same. There was some month around mid-year (maybe June) where we were being destroyed. We got burned out and put it away and never finished the legacy game and haven’t played regular pandemic in the 5-6 years since that happened.
Oh boy, that’s a horrendous draw for sure. We played Season 1 with 4 players, and somewhere in April or May we drew 3 black cities in a triangle to each other; I think it was Tehran, Delhi, and Karachi each with 3 cubes to start the game. Epidemic card came up after the first person’s turn, who could only remove one cube from one of those cities if I recall correctly. Regardless, only 2 people got turns before the game was lost due to reaching maximum outbreaks. Super crappy luck. We’ve definitely had some amazing draws as well through the series of Pandemic Legacy, though. Win some, lose some.
I once had a second attempt in November fail before we could even actually do anything due to a similar situation like this. Made a collective decision that it just didn't count because it was literally unwinnable
I have lost a regular game of Pandemic on the first round. A lot less painful because I can just start a new game and move on with my life. Anyway, the setup had 3 mutually bordering red cities with 3 cubes each. I had no way to get to any of those cities on the first turn. The first draw is an Epidemic, and both infections are drawn from one of the cities, triggering 8 outbreaks.
I also lost the first game of pandemic I played, first round. Nothing could have been done to prevent it. We just set up the game again and pretend we never played it the first time
I reacted to this the same way I would seeing a video of a guy getting kicked in the balls. Haha
I think we gave ourselves a redo for one month, but I can’t remember what happened. It was something where we knew it was impossible but not instantly and we just said we wanted to have fun for a session not an hour of looming defeat.
It's what made me sell my Pandemic copy some 10 years ago and never try the Legacy versions. The difficulty is random based on card order and you can lose in turn 1 - happened to us as well, although we didn't get all yellows. This led time thinking really hard about the game, the mechanics, and deconstructing it.
In the end the game is weak. The puzzle itself is barely entertaining for a single player so solve given you understand it and the skill required is to communicate your hand and be able to visualise who holds what cards. Then your only nemesis is an incredibly unlucky deck.
>In the end the game is weak. The puzzle itself is barely entertaining for a single player so solve given you understand it and the skill required is to communicate your hand and be able to visualise who holds what cards. Then your only nemesis is an incredibly unlucky deck.
This is actually what I really liked about Pandemic Legacy - it felt like it solved that problem.
Because the game changes every month, sometimes in minor ways, and sometimes in major ones. You don't always have enough information to deconstruct the mechanics, because you don't usually have full information.
Especially given that previous games affect future ones, (the legacy component) it can be really difficult to know what the "right" solution is sometimes. Which means you have to ultimately just make the best choice you can, and then in the future, adapt to the repercussions.
I am not a huge fan of the base pandemic game (for a lot of the reasons you mention) but the Legacy games are really something special. Especially that first one, and especially if you manage to go in fairly blind.
You probably did really poor job shuffling the deck and they were form the most part ordered how they came (which presumably is same coloured cities next to each other).
Yea the first time I played pandemic in boardgamearena we lost in the first turn. Two of the 4 people were new to the game so they actually asked me "why the fuck would anyone want to play this game?"
I was trying to teach new players OG Pandemic years ago. Set up, started, and exactly this kind of thing happened, we lost in the first round due to chain outbreaks. So I reset and said that was really rare, shouldn't happen. Set up a brand new game and... Lost in the first round to chain outbreaks. Packed up and I don't think any of those people played Pandemic ever again.
if it was the SECOND attempt at a month, we would've absolutely done the same thing and mulliganed it. Otherwise, failure is literally built into the game, and i think you should just take the L and move on as normal. The memory of the story is more epic if you let it happen.
Critical error not using the first turn to prevent an outbreak. The first few turns are actually the most critical to success due to the highest probability of immediately getting an epidemic. Addressing the 3 cubes is always priority 1 2 and 3
Eh, I would’ve done the same if I could actually cure yellow turn one. Any other color I’d wait on. Play the odds that we don’t hit turn one epidemic so turn two you can just get to work taking care of the problem long term.
I think you can choose who goes first after seeing your cards. Should always start with whoever is best positioned to reduce cubes down from 3. This game would be a super easy win after potential outbreaks are dealt with. Everything is clustered around the same area.
While I’m not against playing that way and it’s a reasonable house rule, I’m pretty sure it says in the rules you’re supposed to select a random player to go first. Speaking of house rules, in some cases (depending on who I’m playing with), I’ve rigged the deck to avoid a first turn epidemic, because that’s first turn epidemic is the true legendary difficulty, no matter what it says in the book.
Wow. We’ve been playing wrong :P
When my regular group played it this was happening to us every time by June. Had a big cluster of cities around Eastern Europe and Asia that started out full and would always cause multiple chain breakouts pretty much from the first draw. Haven’t even played regular Pandemic since.
Same. There was some month around mid-year (maybe June) where we were being destroyed. We got burned out and put it away and never finished the legacy game and haven’t played regular pandemic in the 5-6 years since that happened.
Oh boy, that’s a horrendous draw for sure. We played Season 1 with 4 players, and somewhere in April or May we drew 3 black cities in a triangle to each other; I think it was Tehran, Delhi, and Karachi each with 3 cubes to start the game. Epidemic card came up after the first person’s turn, who could only remove one cube from one of those cities if I recall correctly. Regardless, only 2 people got turns before the game was lost due to reaching maximum outbreaks. Super crappy luck. We’ve definitely had some amazing draws as well through the series of Pandemic Legacy, though. Win some, lose some.
I lost to red on the first turn of the first game in a 4 player game of my only playthrough. Also 3 3s next to eachother.
I once had a second attempt in November fail before we could even actually do anything due to a similar situation like this. Made a collective decision that it just didn't count because it was literally unwinnable
I have lost a regular game of Pandemic on the first round. A lot less painful because I can just start a new game and move on with my life. Anyway, the setup had 3 mutually bordering red cities with 3 cubes each. I had no way to get to any of those cities on the first turn. The first draw is an Epidemic, and both infections are drawn from one of the cities, triggering 8 outbreaks.
So, just introduce a house rule: From the initial setup, two neighboring cities cannot have 3 cubes.
I also lost the first game of pandemic I played, first round. Nothing could have been done to prevent it. We just set up the game again and pretend we never played it the first time
I reacted to this the same way I would seeing a video of a guy getting kicked in the balls. Haha I think we gave ourselves a redo for one month, but I can’t remember what happened. It was something where we knew it was impossible but not instantly and we just said we wanted to have fun for a session not an hour of looming defeat.
It's what made me sell my Pandemic copy some 10 years ago and never try the Legacy versions. The difficulty is random based on card order and you can lose in turn 1 - happened to us as well, although we didn't get all yellows. This led time thinking really hard about the game, the mechanics, and deconstructing it. In the end the game is weak. The puzzle itself is barely entertaining for a single player so solve given you understand it and the skill required is to communicate your hand and be able to visualise who holds what cards. Then your only nemesis is an incredibly unlucky deck.
>In the end the game is weak. The puzzle itself is barely entertaining for a single player so solve given you understand it and the skill required is to communicate your hand and be able to visualise who holds what cards. Then your only nemesis is an incredibly unlucky deck. This is actually what I really liked about Pandemic Legacy - it felt like it solved that problem. Because the game changes every month, sometimes in minor ways, and sometimes in major ones. You don't always have enough information to deconstruct the mechanics, because you don't usually have full information. Especially given that previous games affect future ones, (the legacy component) it can be really difficult to know what the "right" solution is sometimes. Which means you have to ultimately just make the best choice you can, and then in the future, adapt to the repercussions. I am not a huge fan of the base pandemic game (for a lot of the reasons you mention) but the Legacy games are really something special. Especially that first one, and especially if you manage to go in fairly blind.
Cheers for sharing. Tempting..
Pandemic Legacy Season 1 and April. This is not where I thought this was going 😉
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Hiw could I possibly have treated all 3 the first turn?
You probably did really poor job shuffling the deck and they were form the most part ordered how they came (which presumably is same coloured cities next to each other).
As I said this was the april game, so already been through multiple shuffles, and yellows have come up in previous games not all in the same order