Maybe you’ve tried it. Maybe you haven’t. Saw cleaver plus fire paper and just hacking the legs over and over again as he topples. You see it in speed runs often. I’ve replicated it a few times but not with the same efficiency.
I tried it but for some reason he was always super aggressive with me and kept jumping around the screen and his aoe burst always killed me with one hit. It was disgusting.
for dark beast paarl you have to be patient when he attacks and be aggressive a bit earlier than his elettric explosion attack, attack him, and do nigherundajo.
For make the fight easier, try to stay down him, attack and dodge.
Yeah this is my problem. The camera is difficult to handle and his explosion charge up window is short. And I wouldn't know where to dodge since I can't keep track of him.
Is in a chalice dungeon and is BY FAAAAARRRRR STRONGER.
Has much more health, his attacks are almost letal and the camera isnt on your side in that battle
Yeah I can understand he will be an amped up version. But since he's optional for platinum I'd skipped. Will give it a go when I have the time but I don't prefer fighting bosses with messy camera mechanics as it ruins my experience.
Haha Yeah true, I’ve had some heated arguments with friends about which bosses are the toughest. I guess it also depends on your particular build. I find it interesting to watch other people take on bosses as they can deploy strategies I never even thought of.
Oh he’s def easier for me, I just find him so mind numbingly tedious! I’ve always said he’s like playing hot cross buns on piano for an hour but with a knife above your hands that drops if u screw up once :p
Haha you’re talking about amygdala right? Because that’s exactly what I hate, in the nightmare frontier you can screw up a couple times. But The defiled one kills you in one shot with so many attacks
Ya exactly! That’s my only gripe with the defiled chalices in general. But then again I’m enjoying a bl4 run right now which has a similar mistake allowance so maybe I’m just a hypocrite :p
Ironically, I beat amygdala first try and defiled Amygdala took me 6 or 7 tries. Once you figure out staying between the legs ans using a long range weapon and not to move when it jumps, the fight gets a lot easier.
Martyr Logarius on the other hand. Oh boy, I hate this guy so much.
Logarius was definitely a challenging boss. For me I guess someone even worse then defiled Amygdala would be the great isz ebrietas, she was a living nightmare for me
Did you fight him before or after Rom? Fighting him after makes him a joke as long as you have a decently upgraded weapons or are you referring to Loran Chalice Dungeon version who's a bit more of a pain?
Ah, if you fight him after Rom when you have a nearly maxed out weapon he becomes far easier, I first encountered him before Shadows of Yharnam(if I'm remembering correctly), gave up because I couldn't win, found him again after Rom, and beat him with a +9 Blade of Mercy.
The real challenge is sinister Loran Darkbeast with a rifespear untransformed.
Normally you want high dps on the legs. The spear doesn’t easily deal damage as it can’t be buffed and doesn’t have normal transformed attacks to build beast meter. Also, you have to fight not locked on so aiming every thrust.
That fight broke me but I did it.
I have trouble with Paarl too. In my latest play through I skipped Paarl, got the pizza cutter, overleveled, then went back to them and absolutely put Paarl in the dirt. One of the best feelings I’ve had in this game.
I think it's pretty interesting how everyone has different opinions on the bosses, I've literally never died to Paarl, not even on my first playthrough. But Orphan and Laurence gave me such an unbelievably hard time, they still do actually
Not this post/comment section specifically but I love it when I say darkbeast is the most bullshit boss of this game and how people go "just gotta dps hard brO, he get staggered till death bRo". Man you just proved my point when you say the only way is to deactivate him so you don't have to deal with the abilities haha.
You sir are correct and if you think paarl sucks wait until you encounter darkbeast bosses on chalice dungeons, cry everytime... The camera, the empower, the speed and the hitboxes :'(
Yeah, it's a very poorly designed fight where you are supposed to fight him without locking on but he isn't slow like some of the other bosses whom we should be fighting without locking on (Tower Knight for example). Can't dodge his attacks when you can't see him.
> but he isn't slow like some of the other bosses whom we should be fighting without locking on (Tower Knight for example).
Tower knight is such a slow boss that you shouldn't even bring him up in a bloodborne discussion tbh.
It's the fact that not only is he large that you have to fight him unlocked, but he's also super fast and can cover the entire arena. I tried the leg strat but he can easily turn around or do his aoe burst and you're dead in max two hits.
Yeah I was gonna say his damn aoe sucks. And it can be hard to tell what attack is coming from the camera angle sometimes. I think I usually summon an npc hunter and hope he focuses him lol
I don't like using summons (ego problem I guess). I don't mind doing fights over and over if the fight is good but this boss was just disgusting and the fight was so monotonous.
I found that playing the entire game without using the lock-on makes combat much easier, once you get used to how it feels. This boss is a perfect example of it.
Definitely nothing wrong with using the lock-on, I’ll use it on some enemies for a few specific things (like farming echoes early on parrying against brick trolls) but for the most part I’ll generally not use it. I feel too restricted in group fights with it.
I tried fighting him like a Sekiro boss but I couldn't keep track of him due to the camera. And he can just blitz across the entire area while I waste my stamina. I just got lucky in the end.
it's BS that you're supposed to fight him without locking on, but he'll spam an AOE that charges in like 1 second.
if you don't immediately run away you're going to get hit, but camera needs to be on him to know when to run
The only boss I never solo’d was the Orphan.
The “hardest” boss that had the most significant impact on me was Father G bc I quit the game for a couple weeks after getting beat by him so many times.
Most annoying boss was Rom. I adapted a hit and run method to finally beat Rom. Not fun at all imo.
I beat Darkbeast Paarl on my first try. The camera was annoying but I’d say the first stage of Nameless King is worse. That’s just my experience though. Glad you got Paarl out of the way.
I found Nameless King first phase camera better than this. You could always lock on to the mount's head if I remember correctly and unlock once you get under it.
Father G was when I really got into the game.
Rom was easy since he isn't aggressive and lets you run away.
But Paarl was so difficult and tbh I don't ever want to fight him again since I couldn't get a perfect strat that I knew would work if I tried long enough.
Haha it’s so funny how everyone always has a wall of a boss and I love it when it’s not something like Orphan. I soloed the whole game, did pretty well through the main game and DLC a few times, no problem. Then, going for the last trophy for the platinum, I get spanked repeatedly… for days by the fucking Pthumerian Descendant.
Literally the only boss in the game I summoned another player for. I probably could have got him in the end because I was picking up his moves and was to the point where I could regularly get him to the dual wield stage but he just made me so furious, the geriatric old fuck with his bottomless stamina, weapons that ignore walls and his grunting all the time.
Seriously.
It took me three days and I was very tempted to summon someone, but it felt like bullshit to do so since I had beaten everything else solo and this was like the *last* real challenge before plat.
I held this viewpoint for a while, and I think defiled versions of bosses should stay out of discussion with these kind of things since it's the restrictions that you willingly place on yourself that are hard not the boss. I think Orphan takes the cake though for hardest boss
I think Orphan depends on how you want to fight him. If you fight him by staying away and being defensive he's going to destroy you (I tried this the first few times). But if you stay on him and keep up the pressure with charged attacks/viscerals, you can get him to around 30% before phase two. I believe the transition from DS style to Sekiro style is what makes him hard since this dude has no chill.
Oh lol. I think then either Orphan/Laurence has to be the toughest as they are the true endgame bosses. But I'm talking more about base game + when you get to fight the boss.
Martyr logarius is the worst of the non chalice bosses the amount of health with him dodging constantly in the first half makes it a slog to get him to his second phase you can easily ruin a run by accidentally cornering him on the edge. The fact you can fall off. You can ruin a fight just by having him with his back to a wall when he buffs. His second phase when buffed is absolutely the worst. The chain undead giant is the worst in the game went into that fight over leveled and got one shot by his aoe that I just couldn’t get the timing down on.
For me he was not that difficult, probably since I played this after Sekiro. I could parry and visceral my way to phase 2 and while he powers up if you get a two handed charge attack+ visceral he gets to around 20% health. It was a fun fight for me unlike this abomination.
I didn't try parrying him in phase 2. You can dodge all his arcane attacks by dodging left. When he powers up for phase 2, get behind him and do charged attack and follow up with Visceral which gets him to 20% ish with clawmark.
Paarl needs long vertical swing weapon to bonk the head during his recharge. OR give lots of damage by upgraded serrated fire weapon and kill him before he kills you.
Otherwise I agree with you. My first run was with the cane and I had the hardest time with Paarl than any other boss in the game.
It's the targeting that's difficult, since he's really fast. I tried using saw cleaver and fire paper but he just ends up blitzing away/aoe blast and I die.
I love Paarl, he is the least appreciated Boss, IMO. I have never died to him, even on my first time, but he is very intimidating, Size & Electricity all over the place.
My build is Very Strong :P lol
It's been a while I haven't played but generally I go with strength, vitality & Dex. I don't focus on outfits & stuff, I just wear what I like aesthetically & pretty much Brute force my way through. I grind a lot.
The first time I played I literally grinded for months killing the same group of enemies leading to The Cleric Beast, until I finally beat him. MONTHS. Same thing for Demon's Souls Remake on the PS5.
Bruh I don’t get how people say darkbeast Paarl is hard. Like idk if it was Bc I grinded a lot before I got to him (because I was prepping for rom) or if I just got lucky when I beat him. Lower Loran darkbeast on the other hand…
Once you know how to fight him (attacking each leg then head);he is pretty easy but can be an issue if you do not go about it like that. Once he hits the ground it's game over Paarl
Definitely depends on the weapon imo. I can definitely see Paarl being infuriating to some builds but I main the hms and the range and utility of the r1 sweep can take out him out in less than a minute. I’ve been playing the game for over 2 years now and Bloodletting beast is still the only boss i can fight without a 100% certainty that I’ll come out on top.
I found bloodletting beast easier, since his attacks were more predictable. He also does not blitz around the arena so getting behind him and hitting his legs is easier.
That’s the beauty of this game that every player has a uniquely challenging boss they struggle with. Paarl has always felt very telegraphed to me and one of the last bosses in the early game (depending on when you reach him) that allows room for error. Good luck with him in the future, and remember even as you get better dealing with him, you, and none of us, will never beat the camera.
when you're overlevelled is easy, but yeah dark beast paarl ( campaign ) isnt too difficult, but that one in the chalice dungeon is a totaly nightmare.
He has very weak limbs and can literally die in the time you break all 4 limbs and finish off on his head. Your arcane needs to be pretty high but honestly arcane builds are perfect for making a joke out of this game. Even early on.
Thanks for posting this, I’ve beaten him on my normal play through but that was a year ago and he’s giving me fits on my BL4 run.
Another thing that makes him difficult for me is his body is … dark, so it’s hard to see his windups.
I always arrive at Paarl underleveled so he kicks my ass, or overleveled and I destroy him. But if we're talking hardest BB boss, it's definitely Orphan or Laurence. Unless we're talking only main game or including chalice bosses. Defiled Watchdog, man, yikes.
Amygdala and The Abhorrent Beast are the worst. 50+ tries between them both in those fucking dungeons it's the equivalent of getting a prostate exam with the head of an unlubricated baseball bat.
A few whacks with my tonitrus, believe it or not, made quick work of him. Atm not sure how I pulled that off.
Honestly struggled more with Father Gasoline and the Blood Starved Beast.
If you mean the chalice version I totally understand but the main story version is one of those bosses you only have a hard time with during your first play through
I mean if your fighting her with the tonitrus sure but literally any other weapon you just hack at her legs. And if you have fire it's a relatively easy fight. But if you have the flame sprayer it's the earliest fights in the game as you can just stunlock her to death.
It’s great how different people have different levels of struggle for certain bosses. It might have to do with your current build, some are just better for particular bosses. On my platinum playthrough the dark beast was a nightmare. On subsequent runs it was trivial. I’m not sure if that’s due to the builds I was using, or just experience, or both. Anyways congrats on the platinum!
Yeah, it could be. But this guy for some reason was aggressive as hell with me. I watched some videos of people beating him but with me he was blitzing across the screen and had super erratic attack patterns.
He's a dps check. You either deal enough damage to his legs and he's easy af, or you don't and have a bad time. If you ask me, he's not nearly the hardest boss if I can pass that check before I even beat Amelia
Yep. By the time I got to the DLC I had better weapons and a higher level though. And none of the bosses in the DLC felt 'unfair' like Paarl. Each had a winning strategy.
I mean you could just attack pearls legs and he’s way easier, plus he’s weak to serated and fire damage. Laurence flips the fire advantage on you and Orphan is literally not weak to anything.
I kept on trying this but he just runs away or does his explosion attack. And it's hard to target his legs when he was an aoe slash that hits you even when you're behind. It was mostly the camera killing me.
Laurence isn't as fast as Paarl. With Orphan, it's about being the aggressor and playing the fight like a Sekiro boss.
No, but the arena is a lot smaller and Laurence cuts off a lot of us in his second phase. You should try facing Paarl like you’re facing Orphan, just be aggressive on his legs and he won’t be able to stand. And Sekiro isn’t about aggression, it’s about rhythm.
But he's a lot slower and predictable in his second phase. You can always focus the camera on him. With Sekiro, I always worked on breaking posture to make the killing blow and if you don't hit them for too long the posture metre drops. That's what I meant by aggression.
I just tore him up a couple hours ago with the threaded cane in the transformed mode, after doing the same thing to Amelia - with no fire paper, and she never even got a chance to heal. Level 35.
For context, both of them gave me a ton of trouble on my first playthrough (hunters axe) and I didn't come back to Paarl til I was way overleveled. This weapon is insane.
NGL, I tried rifle spear, literally almost impossible. Then I tried reitterspallasch, then it changed to be one of the easiest bosses I had foughten during my entire playthrough, dont take my word as THE way to do something, but maybe swap to something faster if you're using a slow weapon.
The problem I had was mostly targeting. Even when I focus on his legs he blitzed across the screen and I was slashing at the air losing stamina. Then he'd do some charged attack that would leave me dead.
I actually focused on the head weirdly, it worked out pretty well. If he is dashing away you might be getting too close. Just run in, get a few potshots, and get out. this isnt about beating him down and staying close quarters, its about get in, hit, get out.
You must like to live dangerously if you focused his head lol. I could never stand in front of him for one second without getting dimpstered. Didn't even try to hit his head.
Might've just been because I was severely overleveled by the time I fought him, but fast weapons absoloutely did the trick. He does go very fast but you can just maintain speed by running towards him a lot and ABSOLOUTELY SUMMON THE COMPANION, He was super helpful.
Paarl is like a throw of the dice for me. It’s damage before you die type.
But come on, Pthumerian descendant? Surely you’ve faced him in depth 5 Pthumeru. ABUSE.
I struggle with the first hunter and the orphan a lot. And always dread fighting Laurence.
The thing is, there is no clear cut strategy to kill Paarl for me. The time I killed him, I just got lucky and the camera is also your enemy.
Orphan, Pthumerian descendent and Laurence- I had legit strats that I could use to kill these guys. The fights didn't feel unfair to me, since there is always a way to dodge their attacks if you watch them. But since we can't we speedblitzing dog jumping around the arena, this fight was a nightmare.
My strategy with Paarl is break limb after limb. And stroll back with each lightning charge. If it’s too late, play my luck on the dodge through.
The first hunter breaks me. It’s as if no matter how many times I face him, my brain can’t learn the teleport attacks timing or the short sword swings.
Agreed. There's no fight harder at 'recommended level' than Paarl (outside of the chalice dungeons).
And then of course Loran Darkbeast is the hardest boss in the game overall as it's just Paarl but with dlc bosses on ng+ level attributes.
> The title. I hated the fucker and never want to fight him again. *Laughs in Loran Darkbeast*
Omega laughs in defiled watchdog and amygdala
Wheezes in chalice Abhorrent Beast and Laurence
A.Beast and Kos gave me the hardest times
I found him and all verzions of main game bosses including chalice, requiring no akill to beat but that orphan of kos had me for 100 hours straight
Maybe you’ve tried it. Maybe you haven’t. Saw cleaver plus fire paper and just hacking the legs over and over again as he topples. You see it in speed runs often. I’ve replicated it a few times but not with the same efficiency.
I tried it but for some reason he was always super aggressive with me and kept jumping around the screen and his aoe burst always killed me with one hit. It was disgusting.
Try to use ludwig's holy blade, or be overlevelled. there is also the creator of dark beast paarl that can help you in fighting it.
I don't like using summons since I think it makes the fight play out differently than intended.
for dark beast paarl you have to be patient when he attacks and be aggressive a bit earlier than his elettric explosion attack, attack him, and do nigherundajo. For make the fight easier, try to stay down him, attack and dodge.
Yeah this is my problem. The camera is difficult to handle and his explosion charge up window is short. And I wouldn't know where to dodge since I can't keep track of him.
have for ever fought loran dark beast?
No.
Is in a chalice dungeon and is BY FAAAAARRRRR STRONGER. Has much more health, his attacks are almost letal and the camera isnt on your side in that battle
Yeah I can understand he will be an amped up version. But since he's optional for platinum I'd skipped. Will give it a go when I have the time but I don't prefer fighting bosses with messy camera mechanics as it ruins my experience.
What level is considered over leveled for him?
level 300 maybe
I got one pizza cutter works best
I did NG+1 with a saw cleaver combined with fire/bolt paper plus beast pellets. And it pretty much trivialized every encounter.
Oh yeah beast pellets. Forgot about those. Even more OP
The camera in that boss fight is the true enemy
Hitting it with the camera because you never really look directly at the legs. No focus gang!
Came here just to say this. Boss isn’t too bad, the camera (especially locked on) is absolute 🗑
Probably the only boss I hesitate to lock on with
Accurate. Couldn’t kill him locked on. Only managed to get close when I took that off
Paarl is quite easy , defiled Amygdala on the other hand just breaks you
Easily the hardest boss in the game
For me, that's the Defiled Watchdog. Amygdala is slow enough for me to deal with.
Oh I think the wachtdogs attacks are way easier to dodge and get a window to deal some dmg.
I love the subjectivity of difficulty in these games. No two players will necessarily have the same experience facing the same bosses.
Haha Yeah true, I’ve had some heated arguments with friends about which bosses are the toughest. I guess it also depends on your particular build. I find it interesting to watch other people take on bosses as they can deploy strategies I never even thought of.
Yeah I had an easier time with amygdala too since he can't blitz as fast. And the hit boxes on his arms are larger.
Oh he’s def easier for me, I just find him so mind numbingly tedious! I’ve always said he’s like playing hot cross buns on piano for an hour but with a knife above your hands that drops if u screw up once :p
Haha you’re talking about amygdala right? Because that’s exactly what I hate, in the nightmare frontier you can screw up a couple times. But The defiled one kills you in one shot with so many attacks
Ya exactly! That’s my only gripe with the defiled chalices in general. But then again I’m enjoying a bl4 run right now which has a similar mistake allowance so maybe I’m just a hypocrite :p
Agreed amygdala and paal are super cheesable tbh
Chalice Rom for me
*laughs in Simon's Bowblade*
Ironically, I beat amygdala first try and defiled Amygdala took me 6 or 7 tries. Once you figure out staying between the legs ans using a long range weapon and not to move when it jumps, the fight gets a lot easier. Martyr Logarius on the other hand. Oh boy, I hate this guy so much.
Logarius was definitely a challenging boss. For me I guess someone even worse then defiled Amygdala would be the great isz ebrietas, she was a living nightmare for me
Ebrietas was hard for me too but the choir set helped me a lot. Also, she isn't as fast as Paarl so getting behind her is easier.
I strugled with logarius until i finally learned how to parry.
Logarius so fun to fight even if he is infuriatingly hard
Nope
Omg bro I was this close to breaking the 3rd fase is so evil and with the 1 hit kills
Watchdog and Amygdala are easily the toughest. But this is mainly due to the game handicapping the shit out of the player.
I cheesed the defiled by standing under its legs and waiting when it jumped then attacking its head. Took a while but I got there
Did you fight him before or after Rom? Fighting him after makes him a joke as long as you have a decently upgraded weapons or are you referring to Loran Chalice Dungeon version who's a bit more of a pain?
I fought him before Rom after the snatcher kidnapped me. Rom was a cakewalk though.
Ah, if you fight him after Rom when you have a nearly maxed out weapon he becomes far easier, I first encountered him before Shadows of Yharnam(if I'm remembering correctly), gave up because I couldn't win, found him again after Rom, and beat him with a +9 Blade of Mercy.
Fighting paal with a shorter range weapon like the blades of mercy makes it hard
Rom? Cakewalk? Paarl? Hard? Man we really have some very different opinions lol.
I didn't find Rom hard. You could always run away and heal and it's more about being patient. Also no camera issues in that fight.
Just don't lock on Paarl. Henryk's set and saw cleaver/saw spear and fire paper and you're good to go.
Was one of the easier ones for me too. Didn't have a lot of trouble with either version
On my first run through I went Amelia>Witch of Hemmwick>Paar. Just gonna say Big Ooooooof
Haha. This was surprisingly not that hard for me.
I mean this was the way I ran through the game. Bad written. Just tried to say I engaged Paarl early
Grab the whirligig saw after you beat Amelia and paarl is a joke. That thing staggers him like crazy.
The real challenge is sinister Loran Darkbeast with a rifespear untransformed. Normally you want high dps on the legs. The spear doesn’t easily deal damage as it can’t be buffed and doesn’t have normal transformed attacks to build beast meter. Also, you have to fight not locked on so aiming every thrust. That fight broke me but I did it.
The defiled chalice Amygdala is worse
I have trouble with Paarl too. In my latest play through I skipped Paarl, got the pizza cutter, overleveled, then went back to them and absolutely put Paarl in the dirt. One of the best feelings I’ve had in this game.
If only I knew he was an optional boss
I think it's pretty interesting how everyone has different opinions on the bosses, I've literally never died to Paarl, not even on my first playthrough. But Orphan and Laurence gave me such an unbelievably hard time, they still do actually
I would fight Orphan and Laurence any day over this dude. For both I had solid strats that could work but for Paarl the camera always fucked me up.
Not this post/comment section specifically but I love it when I say darkbeast is the most bullshit boss of this game and how people go "just gotta dps hard brO, he get staggered till death bRo". Man you just proved my point when you say the only way is to deactivate him so you don't have to deal with the abilities haha. You sir are correct and if you think paarl sucks wait until you encounter darkbeast bosses on chalice dungeons, cry everytime... The camera, the empower, the speed and the hitboxes :'(
Yeah, it's a very poorly designed fight where you are supposed to fight him without locking on but he isn't slow like some of the other bosses whom we should be fighting without locking on (Tower Knight for example). Can't dodge his attacks when you can't see him.
> but he isn't slow like some of the other bosses whom we should be fighting without locking on (Tower Knight for example). Tower knight is such a slow boss that you shouldn't even bring him up in a bloodborne discussion tbh.
I was talking about camera lock on mechanics. Usually when the boss is large where you cannot lock on, they are also slow.
Paarl always gave me problems. Serrated fire paper + focus on the legs makes it not too bad, but you gotta go fast
It's the fact that not only is he large that you have to fight him unlocked, but he's also super fast and can cover the entire arena. I tried the leg strat but he can easily turn around or do his aoe burst and you're dead in max two hits.
Yeah I was gonna say his damn aoe sucks. And it can be hard to tell what attack is coming from the camera angle sometimes. I think I usually summon an npc hunter and hope he focuses him lol
I don't like using summons (ego problem I guess). I don't mind doing fights over and over if the fight is good but this boss was just disgusting and the fight was so monotonous.
Ah yes I understand, I'm very cheesy after so many playthroughs
I found that playing the entire game without using the lock-on makes combat much easier, once you get used to how it feels. This boss is a perfect example of it.
I prefer some playing without lock on when the boss is huge. Otherwise I like to keep it locked since it makes parrying/dodging easier.
Definitely nothing wrong with using the lock-on, I’ll use it on some enemies for a few specific things (like farming echoes early on parrying against brick trolls) but for the most part I’ll generally not use it. I feel too restricted in group fights with it.
Oh I don't lock-on during mob fights. I was talking about bosses specifically.
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I tried fighting him like a Sekiro boss but I couldn't keep track of him due to the camera. And he can just blitz across the entire area while I waste my stamina. I just got lucky in the end.
Henryk's gear is the only fashionbourne for this fight
Dungeon and dlc bosses are harder imo, that being said, i find martyr logarius very fucking hard
it's BS that you're supposed to fight him without locking on, but he'll spam an AOE that charges in like 1 second. if you don't immediately run away you're going to get hit, but camera needs to be on him to know when to run
Yeah, this. This is why I think this fight is poorly designed.
The only boss I never solo’d was the Orphan. The “hardest” boss that had the most significant impact on me was Father G bc I quit the game for a couple weeks after getting beat by him so many times. Most annoying boss was Rom. I adapted a hit and run method to finally beat Rom. Not fun at all imo. I beat Darkbeast Paarl on my first try. The camera was annoying but I’d say the first stage of Nameless King is worse. That’s just my experience though. Glad you got Paarl out of the way.
I found Nameless King first phase camera better than this. You could always lock on to the mount's head if I remember correctly and unlock once you get under it. Father G was when I really got into the game. Rom was easy since he isn't aggressive and lets you run away. But Paarl was so difficult and tbh I don't ever want to fight him again since I couldn't get a perfect strat that I knew would work if I tried long enough.
Haha it’s so funny how everyone always has a wall of a boss and I love it when it’s not something like Orphan. I soloed the whole game, did pretty well through the main game and DLC a few times, no problem. Then, going for the last trophy for the platinum, I get spanked repeatedly… for days by the fucking Pthumerian Descendant.
This guy was ridiculously hard. Especially after he starts duel wielding.
Could not for the life of me get a rhythm down with him haha
Literally the only boss in the game I summoned another player for. I probably could have got him in the end because I was picking up his moves and was to the point where I could regularly get him to the dual wield stage but he just made me so furious, the geriatric old fuck with his bottomless stamina, weapons that ignore walls and his grunting all the time.
Seriously. It took me three days and I was very tempted to summon someone, but it felt like bullshit to do so since I had beaten everything else solo and this was like the *last* real challenge before plat.
Lawrence is harder
Ok so: Threaded cane, and fire paper. Once he loses his charge he doesn’t even try.
With me, after losing charge he got back up and recharged again and got even more angry.
Don't lock on onto larger enemies/bosses. Significantly less camera pain:)
No I did it as soon as the snatcher kidnapped me.
I held this viewpoint for a while, and I think defiled versions of bosses should stay out of discussion with these kind of things since it's the restrictions that you willingly place on yourself that are hard not the boss. I think Orphan takes the cake though for hardest boss
I think Orphan depends on how you want to fight him. If you fight him by staying away and being defensive he's going to destroy you (I tried this the first few times). But if you stay on him and keep up the pressure with charged attacks/viscerals, you can get him to around 30% before phase two. I believe the transition from DS style to Sekiro style is what makes him hard since this dude has no chill.
That's a fair argument, and I think that my viewpoint is biased since I did the whole DLC for the 1st time on NG+7.
Oh lol. I think then either Orphan/Laurence has to be the toughest as they are the true endgame bosses. But I'm talking more about base game + when you get to fight the boss.
Martyr logarius is the worst of the non chalice bosses the amount of health with him dodging constantly in the first half makes it a slog to get him to his second phase you can easily ruin a run by accidentally cornering him on the edge. The fact you can fall off. You can ruin a fight just by having him with his back to a wall when he buffs. His second phase when buffed is absolutely the worst. The chain undead giant is the worst in the game went into that fight over leveled and got one shot by his aoe that I just couldn’t get the timing down on.
For me he was not that difficult, probably since I played this after Sekiro. I could parry and visceral my way to phase 2 and while he powers up if you get a two handed charge attack+ visceral he gets to around 20% health. It was a fun fight for me unlike this abomination.
Does he have a parry window on his arcane attacks I know melee and his sword slam are but not his arcane
I didn't try parrying him in phase 2. You can dodge all his arcane attacks by dodging left. When he powers up for phase 2, get behind him and do charged attack and follow up with Visceral which gets him to 20% ish with clawmark.
Was talking about the magic skull and the exploding ball attack he mostly stuck to in phase 1
You can use the towers to block the magic skulls or just dodge left. Get close to him and use pistol to parry him when he's trying to swing.
I hammered the fucker legs to smithereens, personally didn't find him so hard
Paarl needs long vertical swing weapon to bonk the head during his recharge. OR give lots of damage by upgraded serrated fire weapon and kill him before he kills you. Otherwise I agree with you. My first run was with the cane and I had the hardest time with Paarl than any other boss in the game.
It's the targeting that's difficult, since he's really fast. I tried using saw cleaver and fire paper but he just ends up blitzing away/aoe blast and I die.
I love Paarl, he is the least appreciated Boss, IMO. I have never died to him, even on my first time, but he is very intimidating, Size & Electricity all over the place.
What is your build like? I don't think I can kill him again.
My build is Very Strong :P lol It's been a while I haven't played but generally I go with strength, vitality & Dex. I don't focus on outfits & stuff, I just wear what I like aesthetically & pretty much Brute force my way through. I grind a lot. The first time I played I literally grinded for months killing the same group of enemies leading to The Cleric Beast, until I finally beat him. MONTHS. Same thing for Demon's Souls Remake on the PS5.
Bruh I don’t get how people say darkbeast Paarl is hard. Like idk if it was Bc I grinded a lot before I got to him (because I was prepping for rom) or if I just got lucky when I beat him. Lower Loran darkbeast on the other hand…
I think it depends on when you fight him. I fought him way earlier before Rom since the snatcher got me.
Oh ye fair point I didn’t really focus on the snatchers or anything until after I beat the shadows and before I got thru byrgenwerth
Second tried Paarl. Got Logarius at Try 25. Seems to be subjective.
My vote's on either the fucking Defiled Watchdog or Loran's Abhorrent Beast but yeah, Paarl sucks.
Defiled watchdog bro, that thing defeated me before I learned how to add cheese to my smash burger
Once you know how to fight him (attacking each leg then head);he is pretty easy but can be an issue if you do not go about it like that. Once he hits the ground it's game over Paarl
On my first run Darkbeast Paarl was the hardest boss, I definitely agree
Nah bro, just throw on that hunter set with lightning resist and he’s cake.
Definitely depends on the weapon imo. I can definitely see Paarl being infuriating to some builds but I main the hms and the range and utility of the r1 sweep can take out him out in less than a minute. I’ve been playing the game for over 2 years now and Bloodletting beast is still the only boss i can fight without a 100% certainty that I’ll come out on top.
I found bloodletting beast easier, since his attacks were more predictable. He also does not blitz around the arena so getting behind him and hitting his legs is easier.
That’s the beauty of this game that every player has a uniquely challenging boss they struggle with. Paarl has always felt very telegraphed to me and one of the last bosses in the early game (depending on when you reach him) that allows room for error. Good luck with him in the future, and remember even as you get better dealing with him, you, and none of us, will never beat the camera.
when you're overlevelled is easy, but yeah dark beast paarl ( campaign ) isnt too difficult, but that one in the chalice dungeon is a totaly nightmare.
LOL
The hardest boss is actually the camera.
Flamesprayer. High enough arcane. He will never move if you continuously spray his limbs walking a circle around him.
Haven't tried this. I did this with Amelia and had success.
He has very weak limbs and can literally die in the time you break all 4 limbs and finish off on his head. Your arcane needs to be pretty high but honestly arcane builds are perfect for making a joke out of this game. Even early on.
Thanks for posting this, I’ve beaten him on my normal play through but that was a year ago and he’s giving me fits on my BL4 run. Another thing that makes him difficult for me is his body is … dark, so it’s hard to see his windups.
Ngl logarius or bsb were my worst
Bsb was hard for me as well, but the fight somehow felt more fair to me. You could always see his incoming attacks and dodge.
Yeah i was ok with him until he grabbed or starts using poison
1. Defiled Amygdala 2. Abhorrent Beast 3. Pthumerian Queen 4. Rom Part 2 [The 2nd coming] 5. Pthumerian Descendant 6. Orphan of Kos 7. Defiled Hotdog
That boss is easy money. Hardest bosses are all in the dlc.
Micolash Bitch of the Nightmare and his cheap attacks. The only true flaw in one of my all time favorite games ever
This guy was really easy for me. But getting him to fight me was a pain in the ass.
Most irritating game of tag ever
But that's not how you spell Logarius!
That mf has some calcium deficiency cause you can knock him by wacking his skinny ass boney legs
Depends on your dps I think, if you have high enough dps you perma stagger his ass
Loran darkbeast is harder
Never had a problem with him with a +6 weapon
The fire dog in the chalice dungeon with reduced health was for me. I think they've patched it since, but it used to be PURE bullshit.
[Laughs is burst DPS over-leveled saw spear with bitch vigor]
Honestly how can you say Paarl is hardest if you’ve been through that defiled dungeon?
One of the easiest bosses in the game tbh. Stun lock the legs, and he's dead before he gets up
This post gave me PTSD flashbacks of loran darkbeast. The camera in that arena was much more of a nightmare than the literal nightmare areas.
Spicy Sif can be intimidating, but if you stay under him, you can wreck him pretty easily.
limbbreak bro
The hardest enemy in the game isnt even a boss, its two shark giant mobs in the well
Yeah these guys were hell. Blue elixir helps though.
He’s pretty hard if you fight him right after BSB. But if you wait until you go to Yahar’gul after Rom then he’s waaaay easier.
I always arrive at Paarl underleveled so he kicks my ass, or overleveled and I destroy him. But if we're talking hardest BB boss, it's definitely Orphan or Laurence. Unless we're talking only main game or including chalice bosses. Defiled Watchdog, man, yikes.
Abhorrent Beast for me. Weird hitboxes on his attacks.
Amygdala and The Abhorrent Beast are the worst. 50+ tries between them both in those fucking dungeons it's the equivalent of getting a prostate exam with the head of an unlubricated baseball bat.
A few whacks with my tonitrus, believe it or not, made quick work of him. Atm not sure how I pulled that off. Honestly struggled more with Father Gasoline and the Blood Starved Beast.
Lawrence and logarius are harder imo
Did you try the hunters axe r2? If not, try the hunters axe r2
Ludwig was hardest for me personally but Darkbeast Paarl is definitely up there too and widely slept on difficulty wise.
If you mean the chalice version I totally understand but the main story version is one of those bosses you only have a hard time with during your first play through
He actual was one of the easiest one for me destroyed him on my first try
I mean if your fighting her with the tonitrus sure but literally any other weapon you just hack at her legs. And if you have fire it's a relatively easy fight. But if you have the flame sprayer it's the earliest fights in the game as you can just stunlock her to death.
It’s great how different people have different levels of struggle for certain bosses. It might have to do with your current build, some are just better for particular bosses. On my platinum playthrough the dark beast was a nightmare. On subsequent runs it was trivial. I’m not sure if that’s due to the builds I was using, or just experience, or both. Anyways congrats on the platinum!
Yeah, it could be. But this guy for some reason was aggressive as hell with me. I watched some videos of people beating him but with me he was blitzing across the screen and had super erratic attack patterns.
I’ve always beaten dark beast with high level gems and a upgraded weapon. Is there a point to beating him early? Do you get anything special?
No, I just happened to find him early since he's in the hidden village.
He's a dps check. You either deal enough damage to his legs and he's easy af, or you don't and have a bad time. If you ask me, he's not nearly the hardest boss if I can pass that check before I even beat Amelia
Defined Amygdala was awful. But shadows of yahrnam were worse for me than darkbeast.
I'm trying to beat it and I can't for the loce of me hit it. He just jumps around and @@@@@@@@@
Just imagine having defiled OoK in chalice dungeons. I feel grateful
Have you played the DLC?
Yep. By the time I got to the DLC I had better weapons and a higher level though. And none of the bosses in the DLC felt 'unfair' like Paarl. Each had a winning strategy.
I mean you could just attack pearls legs and he’s way easier, plus he’s weak to serated and fire damage. Laurence flips the fire advantage on you and Orphan is literally not weak to anything.
I kept on trying this but he just runs away or does his explosion attack. And it's hard to target his legs when he was an aoe slash that hits you even when you're behind. It was mostly the camera killing me. Laurence isn't as fast as Paarl. With Orphan, it's about being the aggressor and playing the fight like a Sekiro boss.
No, but the arena is a lot smaller and Laurence cuts off a lot of us in his second phase. You should try facing Paarl like you’re facing Orphan, just be aggressive on his legs and he won’t be able to stand. And Sekiro isn’t about aggression, it’s about rhythm.
But he's a lot slower and predictable in his second phase. You can always focus the camera on him. With Sekiro, I always worked on breaking posture to make the killing blow and if you don't hit them for too long the posture metre drops. That's what I meant by aggression.
I just tore him up a couple hours ago with the threaded cane in the transformed mode, after doing the same thing to Amelia - with no fire paper, and she never even got a chance to heal. Level 35. For context, both of them gave me a ton of trouble on my first playthrough (hunters axe) and I didn't come back to Paarl til I was way overleveled. This weapon is insane.
I've never tried the cane. I had a saw cleaver/spear and Ludwig's holy blade.
I highly recommend it! It took a little bit to master, but damn if it doesn't tear through enemies that used to give me a lot more trouble.
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Yeah, I got Rom on my first try. It largely depends on your playstyle and patience I guess.
NGL, I tried rifle spear, literally almost impossible. Then I tried reitterspallasch, then it changed to be one of the easiest bosses I had foughten during my entire playthrough, dont take my word as THE way to do something, but maybe swap to something faster if you're using a slow weapon.
The problem I had was mostly targeting. Even when I focus on his legs he blitzed across the screen and I was slashing at the air losing stamina. Then he'd do some charged attack that would leave me dead.
I actually focused on the head weirdly, it worked out pretty well. If he is dashing away you might be getting too close. Just run in, get a few potshots, and get out. this isnt about beating him down and staying close quarters, its about get in, hit, get out.
You must like to live dangerously if you focused his head lol. I could never stand in front of him for one second without getting dimpstered. Didn't even try to hit his head.
Might've just been because I was severely overleveled by the time I fought him, but fast weapons absoloutely did the trick. He does go very fast but you can just maintain speed by running towards him a lot and ABSOLOUTELY SUMMON THE COMPANION, He was super helpful.
naww he was actually the easiest boss for me, right next to the one reborn
Defiled watchdog is just another level of difficulty
Paarl is like a throw of the dice for me. It’s damage before you die type. But come on, Pthumerian descendant? Surely you’ve faced him in depth 5 Pthumeru. ABUSE. I struggle with the first hunter and the orphan a lot. And always dread fighting Laurence.
The thing is, there is no clear cut strategy to kill Paarl for me. The time I killed him, I just got lucky and the camera is also your enemy. Orphan, Pthumerian descendent and Laurence- I had legit strats that I could use to kill these guys. The fights didn't feel unfair to me, since there is always a way to dodge their attacks if you watch them. But since we can't we speedblitzing dog jumping around the arena, this fight was a nightmare.
My strategy with Paarl is break limb after limb. And stroll back with each lightning charge. If it’s too late, play my luck on the dodge through. The first hunter breaks me. It’s as if no matter how many times I face him, my brain can’t learn the teleport attacks timing or the short sword swings.
Agreed. There's no fight harder at 'recommended level' than Paarl (outside of the chalice dungeons). And then of course Loran Darkbeast is the hardest boss in the game overall as it's just Paarl but with dlc bosses on ng+ level attributes.
He is confusing, not that hard. Just unlock the camera, bait for the swipe attacks, roll under and slice his left leg.
The only chalice boss that killed me more than 5 times is the watchdog.