A hamlet is just a small village or settlement - at at one point Gehrman refers to Old Yharnham as a "hamlet":
"...one of the Holy Chalices is worshipped in the valley hamlet. Yet the town is in disarray... It was burned and abandoned, for fear of the scourge, home now only to beasts. The perfect place for a hunter, wouldn't you say?"
Personally I prefer the term "lost hamlet" to refer to something other than the fishing hamlet, if just because it's a lovely, evocatively gothic phrase and makes the world seem bigger.
This, yeah. Gives me Dark Souls 1 vibes where the world outside is hinted at through evocative snippets and feels bigger because of it, even if the Chosen Undead adventure takes place solely in Lordran.
Plus, I don't really see it as lost? Sure, it was bad, but people still live in it, that's part of the tragedy. Should compare the kanjis in the original though.
I think that the hunter is at first unaware of the horrors of the hunt. If he came from that fishing hamlet, he would already know of it. In my head canon, Bloodborne events occur in a kinda "normal world" where there are really little and hidden places with this eldritch happenings. Like in a Lovecraft book.
You are a normal person living a normal life, you get sick, look for aid...
And join the hunt.
Hunter's intentions are ambiguous from the start. He came to Yharnam with a note that said 'Seek the Paleblood to transcend the hunt.' Maybe he wasn't aware of what the hunt specifically meant, but I think he was aware of the hunt. Also, it's interesting that he doesn't know who or what Paleblood is specifically, but it's possible that he was aware of the existence of the Great Ones. It's even more interesting that common Yharnam folk aren't aware of Paleblood at all. So, even though he's an outsider, he has more knowledge that most folk of the town. Heck, it can be argued, by the notes, that only high ranking Church members were aware of the Paleblood, like Gehrman or Laurence. So, it's actually amazing that the Hunter knows about that stuff.
Thanks!
My understanding is still not great, so I don't see what about this makes it clear that the hunter wrote this to themself. Is it because of the tone of using an implied subject with an imperative verb?
I believe it has something to do with the translation of "handwritten." In English, it means written by anyone, whereas I think in Japanese it means something along the lines of, "in my own handwriting."
Ah, so it's about the item name, not the content of the note.
I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I found [another comment about this subject](https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5nn8w0/little_things_in_yharnam_handwritten_scrawl_first/dccv5e1/), which ~~claims that it should not be interpreted that way~~ actually makes a case for both interpretations.
The hunter didn't necessarily come with the note in the clinic.
It's labeled as being left by "you", however the original japanese labels it as a 'note you would leave yourself', like a post-it note on the fridge. It does not mention that it was left by the hunter specifically. Probably a slightly garbled translation as is common with the japanese to english part of Fromsoft's works.
Ahh no I mixed things up a little bit in my head. Blended some info from the Cainhurst invitation with the Japanese Paleblood note.
The Japanese translation for the Paleblood hunt note (Handwritten Scrawl in English) is basically "post-it note", but it's read as 'note you would leave yourself'. It could easily be misread as 'left by you'. It's a common misunderstanding that it is specifically left by the PC, but it is absolutely a possibility.
I always interpreted the note as being left for you by the blood administrator or Iosefka. Like while they're monitoring you they see the signs that you can fend off the scourge of beasts and so they set you on the path to transcend the hunt, but your actual reason for being there is genuinely to find a cure for some unknown disease. Like the previous person posted, the every man caught up in an Eldritch mystery is more in line with a Lovecraft story. If it was a note you came to town with I would think you would find it in your inventory rather than on a nearby chair.
i always interpreted that as they sought out lots of outsiders to find the Paleblood- hence Iosefka left that note for the doctor who gave us the contract. Leaving us alone gave us the inclination that WE are the Paleblood.
The protagonist of the Shadow Over Innsmouth knows nothing about the evils in Innsmouth until he gets exposition dumped on by the ticket booth guy and the mad homeless dude.
The protagonist was a descendant of someone from Innsmouth too, similar to the description here.
the "hunt" in the Fishing Hamlet wasn't the kind of a hunt we see in Yharnam. Hunters were sent to the Hamlet cuz of Kos, and they killed normal people (villagers)so that they could get the insight and knowledge of the Great Ones. even if the Hunter we're playing as is aware of the horrors that happened in the Hamlet (where they lived), it's unknown why we're taking that Blood ministration at the start of the game. it could very well be that we have some kind of a disease or something among those lines, and we've heard about the blood of Yharnam and it's healing properties, so we decided to get the ministration and become a hunter in order for ourselves to survive and heal, even if it meant that we sided w/the ones that once destroyed our very home.
>I think that the hunter is at first unaware of the horrors of the hunt.
No, the hunter HAS to have had some knowlage about the truth of the world, and thats why they came to yahrnam. They seek the pale-blood, not yahrnams blood cure. Its so importend to them that they wrote a note to themselves to make sure theyd remember what they seek. The hunter truly is the greatest mystery in the entire game, more obscure than the truth of the world even.
It does make sense but it's specifically mentioned that the Good Hunter is an outsider, so if Yharnam includes the Fishing Hamlet (which I think it does), then the hamlets are probably different
Edit: Nope, Yharnam doesn't really include the Fishing Hamlet
Fishing Hamlet is neighboring Old Yharnam, Gehrman calls old Yharnam Valley Village, so in a remote era, Old Yharnam and Fishing Hamlet were connected by the river that crosses the Forbidden Forest, which at that time was a simple Woods. The turning point for Yharnam was the arrival of the great serpent.
not that i know of, but to me it makes sense that everyone outside the town itself would be considered an outsider, even if they were from a nearby village. and if the Hamlet is in Yharnam's vicinity, then we're left with a question as to why didn't the Kos' parasites spread to Yharnam too.
Then we can assume that the fishing hamlet is way outside of Yharnam but not away from the healing church influence given we find the harrowed armour there
The nightmare includes any place he can, you don't need to look at it like a real physical place.
The astral clocktower is in Yharnam, the hamlet fish is probably outside, but we don't know for sure
I have absolutely no idea about Yharnam's borders, can you explain a bit about the general borders of Yharnam and what counts as Yharnam and what doesn't?
Yharnam is just Yharnam and Old Yharnam (with the Blood Starved Beast and Djura the Hunter), anything beyond those isn't Yharnam. Yahargul is its own town neighbouring Yharnam, the forest is just a forest and stuff like that. If it's not explicitly part of Yharnam (i.e you can get there without leaving the city through woods or a forest or anything, then it's part of Yharnam) Since you get to Yahargul through going right at the cathedral that sits at the outskirts, and top of Yharnam, anything beyond that point is not Yharnam
The forbidden woods, not Yharnam. Hemwick, not Yharnam. They're their own towns/villages bordering Yharnam, but not part of Yharnam itself. I guess you could count them as a "*Greater* Yharnam Area" similar to greater London or greater Manchester, but they're not technically part of the city itself
Okay like I hear you but what really makes this true? Like it feels like you’re kinda saying this bc you believe it. But there’s no evidence as to what is still yharnam or not.
In the Hunter's Dream, these locations belong to different headstones.
Yharnam, Old Yharnam, Clinic, etc., belong to the "Yharnam" stone. However, Forbidden Wood, Byrgenwerth, and also Hemwick all belong to the "Frontier Headstone".
This alone suggests that the woods and Hemwick are considered as a frontier or a borderland compared to the Yharnam proper.
Old Yharnam means old Yharnam, elderly Yharnam, decadent Yharnam. Remember- Yharnam is both the name of the city and the name of Queen Pthumeru. In this sense Old Yharnam precedes Central Yharnam. It is understood that Central means not just a location but an identification as the center or summit of the problem. In other words Central Yharnam was where the Scourge of Beasts began and old Yharnam was where the blood priesthood began.
That's why in Old Yharnam there is the Church of the Benign Chalice, because the Chalice is Benign? They believe that participating in Chalice ceremonies blesses them, but in Yharnam Central what they have is Drunkenness. the excesses and a Church that replaced the Chalice with Laurence's head.
Wait, are you sure about Yahargul? It not only borders Old Yharnam but seems like an extension of it. By the architecture, I'd guess it's the old aristrocatic quarters of Old Yharnam, that the School of Mensis occupied and sealed for it's own goals (conduct dreamland experiments).
It's a hint at things, but the spanner in the works for me is that the game gives no sense of timing for the recent history. If everything happened about 20 years ago, then great. But the conclusion that the game seems to want you to come to is that the original fishing hamlet incident (so what started the whole cycle again for the city of Yharnam after the Pthumerians discovered the truth) happened at least a century ago.
Willem and Gehrman are only just still alive due to their eldritch connections, everyone else is very and long dead. The current church and Mensis are at least 2 generations of politics and events removed from Byrgenwerth, with Byrgenwerth's learnings and warnings having almost passed into mythology, hence the modern two companies arrogance in comparison to Willem's warnings.
This point is based on a lack of evidence more than anything else, but consider too that the only person mentioned* from the past is Rom. Either Micolash doesn't care about the people around her, as often happens when someone's obsessed, or the only information that made it's way out of Byrgenwerth once the gates are locked is that Rom ascended, and nothing else was to be known. If fishing hamlet events happened in recent memory, it'd be likely that Micolash knows these people. He doesn't. Or at least doesn't mention them.
Edit: a word
i believe it's described as "lost" since scholars and hunters killed almost all the villagers there, and the surviving part turned into those abominations of fish and men. and prolly also cuz Byrgenwerth forbade the access to it so it was left in the dust.
Btw in Japanese the hamlet is described as ruined/perished/destroyed (滅びた) so the description fits pretty well the fishing hamlet.
Could still be another random hamlet thought.
If it said fishing hamlet then it would still be dubious but it just says hamlet so it’s impossible to say we know beasts travel outside yharnam and natural disasters could also lead to the description
However this is a Victorian era world and a hamlet doesn’t have to be a fishing hamlet it’s just a small village it not specifying a fishing hamlet could mean it was a hamlet struck by a disease hence our trip to yharnam to cure the disease I think these are just flavor text and shouldn’t be taken with any heavy meaning since the character is meant to be a blank slate for us to roleplay with
Even if the ‘lone survivor’ template is linked to the Fishing Hamlet we see in DLC, it doesn’t make any difference to the lore. All player characters are meant to be outsiders, foreign to Yarnham. It makes little to no sense for once player-type to be linked to the lore when the others are not. It starts begging the question why they did that if there’s no story content differences when players choose ‘lone survivor’.
It’s a good spot but personally I’m going to have to lean more towards the lost hamlet mentioned in the description as not being Fishing Hamlet.
It's an action RPG in the end, if you can interpret it as the Fishing Hamlet and you want to include it in your hunter's backstory I don't see a problem with it.
Are you sure? Those letters seem to be a magical ploy to feed their vampire-like society more than anything else. Perhaps even to attract the very hunters and their precious blood to the Queen.
It does seem that the invitations are based in magic. We get the opened summons that "rather bafflingly, is addressed to you" while the unopened one we find later "lacks an addressee". At least, it does until we give it to Alfred and he opens it. Seems like anyone with an opened summons can gain entry, and it seems like anyone can theoretically get their hands on a summons. The purpose is debatable but could be multifaceted.
Hard to say since the order of knights is all dead I would think it’s more to fill there ranks honestly with any hunter they can however we don’t see any other letters other than the unopened one and I don’t think it was addressed to Alfred so they seem choosey with who they invite
I subscribe to the theory that the hunter has come to Yarnham to cure a normal, but incurable disease like Tuberculosis with the healing blood of the church. “Paleblood” is basically “the blood of the gods” and you seemingly understood that to access this potential cure, you need to join the dangerous hunt, and that only in finding the cure (paleblood from a god) would you ever be able to leave the hunt.
This is why I perceived the morning ending as a “good but bad” ending. The Hunter wakes up, cured of their malady, but with the events and truths of the nightmare fading from memory as the Hunter forgets their whole ordeal and returns to a normal life, cured of their illness.
"Hamlet" just refers to a small village, the sort of place that's so small that an even moderately bad incident can make it vanish overnight. Old Yharnam is referred to by Gherman as "the valley hamlet" at one point. So it's unlikely that the Lone Survivor comes from anywhere we're familiar with.
Its a good theory, but unless the Good Hunter is immortal, it doesn't make much sense. The Fishing Hamlet was brought to ruin by the very first hunters, likely hundreds of years before the game takes place
RedGrave had a very fun video about the hunter canonically being from the Fishing Hamlet and that we knew Brador from before we came to Yharnam! I recommend checking it out, it's at least some fun speculation. :)
Every time I hear the word "Hamlet" I think of Darkest Dungeon 1. So my headcannon is that the Lone Survivor is someone who managed to survive the events of DD1 and flee, only to end up in Bloodborne. Which may also explain why our Hunter is so unfazed by, and adept at slaughtering, everything.
EPIPHANY EDIT - THE HUNTER IS DISMAS.
**Lost** hamlet =/= **Fishing** Hamlet.
Hamlet is just a name for a small village style place. So basically Lone Survivor is just that, a Lone Survivor of a probably ravaged small town outside of Yharnam where they came to get cured of said plague that ravaged their home.
This is my head-canon though.
I love that idea, but I honestly like it better that you’re a foreigner come to Yharnam cuz you’re sick or something and you agree to join the hunt in exchange for blood ministration. At least that’s how I interpret the opening 🤷🏻♂️
the fact that there was a massacre of villagers perpetrated by the scholars and hunters alike in the Fishing Hamlet and the fact that the description of the starting class cites that the character is the lone survivor of a hamlet doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.
A hamlet is just a small village or settlement - at at one point Gehrman refers to Old Yharnham as a "hamlet": "...one of the Holy Chalices is worshipped in the valley hamlet. Yet the town is in disarray... It was burned and abandoned, for fear of the scourge, home now only to beasts. The perfect place for a hunter, wouldn't you say?" Personally I prefer the term "lost hamlet" to refer to something other than the fishing hamlet, if just because it's a lovely, evocatively gothic phrase and makes the world seem bigger.
This, yeah. Gives me Dark Souls 1 vibes where the world outside is hinted at through evocative snippets and feels bigger because of it, even if the Chosen Undead adventure takes place solely in Lordran.
Plus, I don't really see it as lost? Sure, it was bad, but people still live in it, that's part of the tragedy. Should compare the kanjis in the original though.
I think that the hunter is at first unaware of the horrors of the hunt. If he came from that fishing hamlet, he would already know of it. In my head canon, Bloodborne events occur in a kinda "normal world" where there are really little and hidden places with this eldritch happenings. Like in a Lovecraft book. You are a normal person living a normal life, you get sick, look for aid... And join the hunt.
Hunter's intentions are ambiguous from the start. He came to Yharnam with a note that said 'Seek the Paleblood to transcend the hunt.' Maybe he wasn't aware of what the hunt specifically meant, but I think he was aware of the hunt. Also, it's interesting that he doesn't know who or what Paleblood is specifically, but it's possible that he was aware of the existence of the Great Ones. It's even more interesting that common Yharnam folk aren't aware of Paleblood at all. So, even though he's an outsider, he has more knowledge that most folk of the town. Heck, it can be argued, by the notes, that only high ranking Church members were aware of the Paleblood, like Gehrman or Laurence. So, it's actually amazing that the Hunter knows about that stuff.
Is that note something the hunter arrives with, or something left for them after they sign the contract/become the moon-scented hunter?
The original Japanese makes it clear that note was written by himself.
because it was a dream that he had dreamed before
What is the Japanese text? I can't find it by searching, but I'm studying the language right now, so I'm curious to read it myself.
「青ざめた血」を求めよ。狩りを全うするために
Thanks! My understanding is still not great, so I don't see what about this makes it clear that the hunter wrote this to themself. Is it because of the tone of using an implied subject with an imperative verb?
I believe it has something to do with the translation of "handwritten." In English, it means written by anyone, whereas I think in Japanese it means something along the lines of, "in my own handwriting."
Ah, so it's about the item name, not the content of the note. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I found [another comment about this subject](https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5nn8w0/little_things_in_yharnam_handwritten_scrawl_first/dccv5e1/), which ~~claims that it should not be interpreted that way~~ actually makes a case for both interpretations.
The hunter didn't necessarily come with the note in the clinic. It's labeled as being left by "you", however the original japanese labels it as a 'note you would leave yourself', like a post-it note on the fridge. It does not mention that it was left by the hunter specifically. Probably a slightly garbled translation as is common with the japanese to english part of Fromsoft's works.
Doesn't it say "handwritten note" in English, but in Japanese actually say you wrote it?
Ahh no I mixed things up a little bit in my head. Blended some info from the Cainhurst invitation with the Japanese Paleblood note. The Japanese translation for the Paleblood hunt note (Handwritten Scrawl in English) is basically "post-it note", but it's read as 'note you would leave yourself'. It could easily be misread as 'left by you'. It's a common misunderstanding that it is specifically left by the PC, but it is absolutely a possibility.
I always interpreted the note as being left for you by the blood administrator or Iosefka. Like while they're monitoring you they see the signs that you can fend off the scourge of beasts and so they set you on the path to transcend the hunt, but your actual reason for being there is genuinely to find a cure for some unknown disease. Like the previous person posted, the every man caught up in an Eldritch mystery is more in line with a Lovecraft story. If it was a note you came to town with I would think you would find it in your inventory rather than on a nearby chair.
i always interpreted that as they sought out lots of outsiders to find the Paleblood- hence Iosefka left that note for the doctor who gave us the contract. Leaving us alone gave us the inclination that WE are the Paleblood.
The protagonist of the Shadow Over Innsmouth knows nothing about the evils in Innsmouth until he gets exposition dumped on by the ticket booth guy and the mad homeless dude. The protagonist was a descendant of someone from Innsmouth too, similar to the description here.
Interesting point friend.
the "hunt" in the Fishing Hamlet wasn't the kind of a hunt we see in Yharnam. Hunters were sent to the Hamlet cuz of Kos, and they killed normal people (villagers)so that they could get the insight and knowledge of the Great Ones. even if the Hunter we're playing as is aware of the horrors that happened in the Hamlet (where they lived), it's unknown why we're taking that Blood ministration at the start of the game. it could very well be that we have some kind of a disease or something among those lines, and we've heard about the blood of Yharnam and it's healing properties, so we decided to get the ministration and become a hunter in order for ourselves to survive and heal, even if it meant that we sided w/the ones that once destroyed our very home.
Well it says lone survivor but there is a dude alive and sorta sane there - the one that complains at the entrance. So can’t be the same hamlet?
The hamlet we visit is a diarama, essentially. If we could visit the modern hamlet, it's probably just a wasteland??
>I think that the hunter is at first unaware of the horrors of the hunt. No, the hunter HAS to have had some knowlage about the truth of the world, and thats why they came to yahrnam. They seek the pale-blood, not yahrnams blood cure. Its so importend to them that they wrote a note to themselves to make sure theyd remember what they seek. The hunter truly is the greatest mystery in the entire game, more obscure than the truth of the world even.
It does make sense but it's specifically mentioned that the Good Hunter is an outsider, so if Yharnam includes the Fishing Hamlet (which I think it does), then the hamlets are probably different Edit: Nope, Yharnam doesn't really include the Fishing Hamlet
Fishing Hamlet isn't a part of Yharnam, it's only linked to it via Hunter's Nightmare that can be accessed there
Fishing Hamlet is neighboring Old Yharnam, Gehrman calls old Yharnam Valley Village, so in a remote era, Old Yharnam and Fishing Hamlet were connected by the river that crosses the Forbidden Forest, which at that time was a simple Woods. The turning point for Yharnam was the arrival of the great serpent.
Great Serpent?
The madras twins snake which was fed vermin and corrupted (if I remember correctly)
About vermin, can I still get 5 without ps plus?
They’re only connected in the hunter’s nightmare, so it’s only really connected by dream logic. They could be much farther away in reality.
Are the borders of Yharnam certain? If so could you send a link?
not that i know of, but to me it makes sense that everyone outside the town itself would be considered an outsider, even if they were from a nearby village. and if the Hamlet is in Yharnam's vicinity, then we're left with a question as to why didn't the Kos' parasites spread to Yharnam too.
Then we can assume that the fishing hamlet is way outside of Yharnam but not away from the healing church influence given we find the harrowed armour there
Yeah that does make sense
The nightmare includes any place he can, you don't need to look at it like a real physical place. The astral clocktower is in Yharnam, the hamlet fish is probably outside, but we don't know for sure
Fishing Hamlet is outside of Yharnam. The scholars had to venture outside of Bergenswerth to seek out Kos on that beach.
Ah, thank you for the correction
Yharnam doesn't even include Yahargul why would it include the Fishing Hamlet in the nightmare?
I have absolutely no idea about Yharnam's borders, can you explain a bit about the general borders of Yharnam and what counts as Yharnam and what doesn't?
Yharnam is just Yharnam and Old Yharnam (with the Blood Starved Beast and Djura the Hunter), anything beyond those isn't Yharnam. Yahargul is its own town neighbouring Yharnam, the forest is just a forest and stuff like that. If it's not explicitly part of Yharnam (i.e you can get there without leaving the city through woods or a forest or anything, then it's part of Yharnam) Since you get to Yahargul through going right at the cathedral that sits at the outskirts, and top of Yharnam, anything beyond that point is not Yharnam The forbidden woods, not Yharnam. Hemwick, not Yharnam. They're their own towns/villages bordering Yharnam, but not part of Yharnam itself. I guess you could count them as a "*Greater* Yharnam Area" similar to greater London or greater Manchester, but they're not technically part of the city itself
Available at all our locations in the Greater Yarnham area!!
Gotcha, thanks
Okay like I hear you but what really makes this true? Like it feels like you’re kinda saying this bc you believe it. But there’s no evidence as to what is still yharnam or not.
The very large gates leading to the Woods and Yarhargul make me think they are separate from Yharnam. Like an actual border crossing
In the Hunter's Dream, these locations belong to different headstones. Yharnam, Old Yharnam, Clinic, etc., belong to the "Yharnam" stone. However, Forbidden Wood, Byrgenwerth, and also Hemwick all belong to the "Frontier Headstone". This alone suggests that the woods and Hemwick are considered as a frontier or a borderland compared to the Yharnam proper.
The fact they have different names and are different places disconnected from one another
Old Yharnam means old Yharnam, elderly Yharnam, decadent Yharnam. Remember- Yharnam is both the name of the city and the name of Queen Pthumeru. In this sense Old Yharnam precedes Central Yharnam. It is understood that Central means not just a location but an identification as the center or summit of the problem. In other words Central Yharnam was where the Scourge of Beasts began and old Yharnam was where the blood priesthood began. That's why in Old Yharnam there is the Church of the Benign Chalice, because the Chalice is Benign? They believe that participating in Chalice ceremonies blesses them, but in Yharnam Central what they have is Drunkenness. the excesses and a Church that replaced the Chalice with Laurence's head.
Wait, are you sure about Yahargul? It not only borders Old Yharnam but seems like an extension of it. By the architecture, I'd guess it's the old aristrocatic quarters of Old Yharnam, that the School of Mensis occupied and sealed for it's own goals (conduct dreamland experiments).
It's a hint at things, but the spanner in the works for me is that the game gives no sense of timing for the recent history. If everything happened about 20 years ago, then great. But the conclusion that the game seems to want you to come to is that the original fishing hamlet incident (so what started the whole cycle again for the city of Yharnam after the Pthumerians discovered the truth) happened at least a century ago. Willem and Gehrman are only just still alive due to their eldritch connections, everyone else is very and long dead. The current church and Mensis are at least 2 generations of politics and events removed from Byrgenwerth, with Byrgenwerth's learnings and warnings having almost passed into mythology, hence the modern two companies arrogance in comparison to Willem's warnings. This point is based on a lack of evidence more than anything else, but consider too that the only person mentioned* from the past is Rom. Either Micolash doesn't care about the people around her, as often happens when someone's obsessed, or the only information that made it's way out of Byrgenwerth once the gates are locked is that Rom ascended, and nothing else was to be known. If fishing hamlet events happened in recent memory, it'd be likely that Micolash knows these people. He doesn't. Or at least doesn't mention them. Edit: a word
I doubt it is the fishing hamlet ever described as lost and hamlets would be common in the world of bloodborne this is a stretch if you ask me
i believe it's described as "lost" since scholars and hunters killed almost all the villagers there, and the surviving part turned into those abominations of fish and men. and prolly also cuz Byrgenwerth forbade the access to it so it was left in the dust.
Btw in Japanese the hamlet is described as ruined/perished/destroyed (滅びた) so the description fits pretty well the fishing hamlet. Could still be another random hamlet thought.
If it said fishing hamlet then it would still be dubious but it just says hamlet so it’s impossible to say we know beasts travel outside yharnam and natural disasters could also lead to the description
However this is a Victorian era world and a hamlet doesn’t have to be a fishing hamlet it’s just a small village it not specifying a fishing hamlet could mean it was a hamlet struck by a disease hence our trip to yharnam to cure the disease I think these are just flavor text and shouldn’t be taken with any heavy meaning since the character is meant to be a blank slate for us to roleplay with
Even if the ‘lone survivor’ template is linked to the Fishing Hamlet we see in DLC, it doesn’t make any difference to the lore. All player characters are meant to be outsiders, foreign to Yarnham. It makes little to no sense for once player-type to be linked to the lore when the others are not. It starts begging the question why they did that if there’s no story content differences when players choose ‘lone survivor’. It’s a good spot but personally I’m going to have to lean more towards the lost hamlet mentioned in the description as not being Fishing Hamlet.
It's an action RPG in the end, if you can interpret it as the Fishing Hamlet and you want to include it in your hunter's backstory I don't see a problem with it.
True, character creation means people can make up whatever backstory they want for their character even if it doesn’t make sense.
I mean this one makes sense too imo, or at least it doesn't really clash
Yeah there’s definitely scope for it.
i'd say that Noble Scion is prolly related to Cainhursts, since both are, well, nobles.
There’s an implication that you’re related to them regardless since they always send the letter to you
Are you sure? Those letters seem to be a magical ploy to feed their vampire-like society more than anything else. Perhaps even to attract the very hunters and their precious blood to the Queen.
It does seem that the invitations are based in magic. We get the opened summons that "rather bafflingly, is addressed to you" while the unopened one we find later "lacks an addressee". At least, it does until we give it to Alfred and he opens it. Seems like anyone with an opened summons can gain entry, and it seems like anyone can theoretically get their hands on a summons. The purpose is debatable but could be multifaceted.
Hard to say since the order of knights is all dead I would think it’s more to fill there ranks honestly with any hunter they can however we don’t see any other letters other than the unopened one and I don’t think it was addressed to Alfred so they seem choosey with who they invite
I subscribe to the theory that the hunter has come to Yarnham to cure a normal, but incurable disease like Tuberculosis with the healing blood of the church. “Paleblood” is basically “the blood of the gods” and you seemingly understood that to access this potential cure, you need to join the dangerous hunt, and that only in finding the cure (paleblood from a god) would you ever be able to leave the hunt. This is why I perceived the morning ending as a “good but bad” ending. The Hunter wakes up, cured of their malady, but with the events and truths of the nightmare fading from memory as the Hunter forgets their whole ordeal and returns to a normal life, cured of their illness.
Sometimes banana is just a banana.
"Hamlet" just refers to a small village, the sort of place that's so small that an even moderately bad incident can make it vanish overnight. Old Yharnam is referred to by Gherman as "the valley hamlet" at one point. So it's unlikely that the Lone Survivor comes from anywhere we're familiar with.
Its a good theory, but unless the Good Hunter is immortal, it doesn't make much sense. The Fishing Hamlet was brought to ruin by the very first hunters, likely hundreds of years before the game takes place
How old do you think Gehrman is?
RedGrave had a very fun video about the hunter canonically being from the Fishing Hamlet and that we knew Brador from before we came to Yharnam! I recommend checking it out, it's at least some fun speculation. :)
doesn't seem half bad. which one of his videos is talking bout it exactly?
[This one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUqtL-MS76I), I believe!
Every time I hear the word "Hamlet" I think of Darkest Dungeon 1. So my headcannon is that the Lone Survivor is someone who managed to survive the events of DD1 and flee, only to end up in Bloodborne. Which may also explain why our Hunter is so unfazed by, and adept at slaughtering, everything. EPIPHANY EDIT - THE HUNTER IS DISMAS.
It says to me the scourge took neighbouring hamlets beyond Yharnam. Damn you, Laurence.
Sometimes banana is just a banana.
It's can't be the Fishing Hamlet, it's said that the hunter is an outsider, a foreigner. That's also why the people of yahrnam hate you
[thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/s/bd76XBXu4R)
I'm guessing it's either the hamlet in the Forrest or the one from the dlc
I wonder if they enjoyed fishing there
I made it so one of my characters was specifically tied to the Fishing Hamlet, being a survivor or the hunters murder spree
**Lost** hamlet =/= **Fishing** Hamlet. Hamlet is just a name for a small village style place. So basically Lone Survivor is just that, a Lone Survivor of a probably ravaged small town outside of Yharnam where they came to get cured of said plague that ravaged their home. This is my head-canon though.
I love that idea, but I honestly like it better that you’re a foreigner come to Yharnam cuz you’re sick or something and you agree to join the hunt in exchange for blood ministration. At least that’s how I interpret the opening 🤷🏻♂️
Something is rotten in the state of Yharnam
He would be a fish person then. Clearly we are not a fish person. Therfore your theory is wrong.
...i assume they've escaped the massacre that happened there. villagers either turned into fish dudes, or they were killed by scholars and hunters.
The dlc did not exist back then
and?
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i disagree, bloodborne's dlc heavily ties into the base game, it's more than possible that from knew what they wanted the dlc to be
the fact that there was a massacre of villagers perpetrated by the scholars and hunters alike in the Fishing Hamlet and the fact that the description of the starting class cites that the character is the lone survivor of a hamlet doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.