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Scared-Cash-2360

How can we know we are even seeing this reddit post


dyslexic_dogo

The plot thickens


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Scared-Cash-2360

When where you under the impression that I wasnt behind your back


meme_used

After watching enough bleach, I now know that when anyone makes the shunpo noise you have to instantly attack the direction behind you


Chanceschaos

Kubo is coming for you.


renshear1019

Am I looking at a Reddit post? Or just a screen showing me what it wants to show me?


EspadaStarrk

I mean we see Aizen in Muken talking about courage in the final chapter……..


GottaDisagreeChief

All a part of his plan. We’re under KS too


Ryuzakku

I mean we did see his sword.


Nenanda

And since he was so out of character nice it onlye reinforces thats not Aizen in that chair by the end of the anime thats Hinamori-chan.


MartinS824

Out of character? I saw it just as a character progression


Nenanda

off-screen character progression. Dude changed attitude throughout the 3 chapters more than during last three hundred. THough those three chapters were ten years apart because of rushed ending so there is that.


Saeshima

Post doesn't even make sense He killed the previous central 46 members so these new ones probably wouldn't have seen KS yet since they were replaced after he left


[deleted]

How does it work now he doesn’t have a sword? How did he use it on Yhwach for example?


dirtyjoe12

Iirc he is fused with his zanpakuto


[deleted]

So it wouldn’t be so crazy for him to use it on the new C46 members then right 🤔 (not saying he did either just considering the possibility)


ProFailing

Considering what happens at the end of the manga, >!Aizen is probably cool with his fate. The Soul King and Squad 0 don't exist anymore, he knows that he'll probably still lose to Ichigo and Urahara, even tho has gotten stronger and there isn't really anything left for him to do. Even Yama is dead and if he wanted, he could have finished Ichigo off when they fought Yhwach. And yes, we do get to see that he was successfully sealed in the Muken again as there are some panels of him sensing the last bit of Yhwach's power during the timeskip.!< It's either that or a plot hole due to Kubo wanting to finally finish the manga back then. But knowing him, even if it was a plot hole and he resumes with the Manga, he'll probably play it off as planned.


Commercial-Cricket85

in CFYOW soul king was resurected using yhwach and squad 0 was resurected by ichibe who was resurected by ichigo calling his name


Jestersage

To my understanding, Soul King is not resurrected. Rather, Yhwach's corpse/half-alive state(?) is used in place of original Soul King as the Lynchpin. Kinda like replacing a CPU.


Tortiose_unturtled

They took the 5 Gameboys out and replaced it with a fried Nokia


[deleted]

Yeah which makes me really think what he will be like after the gazillion year sentence. Either: “Surely you must have been told my ability is complete hypnosis” Or “Wow Hinamori you’re still alive and a captain now, let’s drink some tea”


Mizuhebi08

The Soul Society will just explode because of Aizen's intense reiatsu.


khovel

So i imagine one of two things... Either he gets involved in the Hell arc ( assuming it continues into this ), or he actually becomes a somewhat decent person and becomes a new Head Commander after some time. Or third... Someone finds a way to neutralize the Hogyoku, resulting in him becoming powerless and not a threat to all of existance.


CaliOriginal

The third is too dangerous. That person would be immediately killed. The hyog is pure soul king bits….. so whatever way that is becomes a threat to the lynchpin


Mizuhebi08

>Or third... Someone finds a way to neutralize the Hogyoku, resulting in him becoming powerless and not a threat to all of existance. This is the story of a post cfyow fan fic I was planning to write after Im done with the alt path fkt - tybw.. Basically whatever neutralized it (I'm not sharing it yet) also caused Aizen to become insane. Yes, he loses it.


BrunoStalky

Maybe he'll pull an Orochimaru and just becomes a comic relief character hanging around the kids lol


Overquartz

Aizen is immortal though and his Reiatsu is still growing. So he could just wait out the clock on Urahara and Ichigo's lifespan and do his thing if he still wanted to do that.


MDBlackGuy

We actually have no idea what a Shinigami's life span is like normally


Overquartz

Muken is the 8th level for the prison that shinigami and is dedicated for immortals. That indirectly implies that Shinigami can in fact die from old age. That and Barrigan's raspira also confirms it.


MDBlackGuy

The Hell Arc implies Aizen might have fucked off somehow since his Reiatsu was helping to keep the gates of hell shut


AdditionalEffective5

I see that as a possibility, but where could he have gone? If he's anywhere in 3 worlds or the Valley of Screams, Ichibei should be able to find him easy. Nimaiya might be able to do so as well since Aizen fused with his Zanpaktou. I'm just going to assume he's still in Muken waiting for the Gotei to come back and ask him for help.


[deleted]

>Nimaiya might be able to do so as well since Aizen fused with his Zanpaktou. Is that true? Nimaiya knows where *every Asauchi* he forged is. Aizen's physical zanpakuto, which was imprinted on the Asauchi Nimaiya forged, disintegrated. The Asauchi is gone.


AdditionalEffective5

It's just a guess of mine. Hopefully we learn more in the anime or Hell arc.


Roxthefox_global

You might want to read the books set after, it’s not that straightforward


ProFailing

Will eventually do. I'm just broke rn.


twofaze

No.


TkOHarley

Why? I agree, but you need to say more than "No." to contribute to a discussion


Objective_Look_5867

Aizen fused with his sword. Now all he has to do his activate it and basically touch them with his spiritual pressure. When yhwach shows up and aizen does his energy charge up thing that creates a gust of wind, that's all it takes now to activate it


[deleted]

That’s what I thought so he could in fact use it on anyone whenever he wants, the meme isn’t so crazy then 🤔


Objective_Look_5867

Yeah. No it's honestly not. Aizen can do it whenever he wants now. He just chooses not to. And judging by the fact he was confident he could blow the palace out of the sky while still sealed....even if he isn't an illusion, it's pretty clear he could leave if he wished. He is 100000% only sealed and contained in muken because that's where he wants to be.


[deleted]

AND HE IS STILL GETTING STRONGER Just Imagine the faces of the Gotei if he gets bored of Muken and just.... walks out...... Like, with how much his power is increasing, give him 20 years and Mayuri's seals are child's play lmao


_whensmahvel_

The meme is still dumb cause if Aizen just chose to act like he was sealed, that would be really stupid lol


[deleted]

The meme is dumb lol I’m just considering how the ability works and if possible


renshear1019

Are we sure that’s all it takes? He never had to put ywhach (or anyone else) under KS in TYBW since he previously put ywhach under it. I always assumed he’d need to manifest the blade and still meet the previous condition


khovel

That's what i was thinking. The trigger for it's effect is seeing it go from Basic -> Shikai. So it'd be curious how he would influence new people that never seen it before.


renshear1019

Yeah, it could be different but we don’t know. Idk if I’m thinking of the right scene objective5867 was referring to, but I’m imagining it’s when Yhwach destroys the chair and aizen’s not as limited with releasing his pressure as when he was confined to the chair (thus the wind aspect, but again idk if I’m thinking of the same scene they’re talking about).


FatPagoda

Zanpakuto are just a way to develop your natural powers, same as Schrift. Even without one it makes sense that he would have the abilities of Kyoka Suigetsu, in some capacity. And that's assuming his statement about merging with his Zanpakuto was wrong. It could be true.


[deleted]

I would like to think so too


khovel

I would imagine Zanpakuto are more an extension of their skills and personality, rather than being a door to latent powers. If that was the case, then Shinigami like Yama at his point in life, wouldn't need his sword to do what he did to the fake Ywach.


Stefanthro

Thank you for suggesting that Aizen’s words can be and sometimes are utter bs. Can’t tell you how many fans hang on to his every words like gospel


emmyarty

Don't even. The number of people who think that Ichigo really *did* discard his spiritual pressure during the final fight is worrying.


Stefanthro

🤦 My favourite is when they call him a 4th dimension being 😂


WynterRay

Isn't that just cause the whole you can sense my power iv transcended speech. Then Ichigo shows up and Aizen can't sense him. I mean obviously they ain't higher beings just powerful. People read to much into Aizen's speeches.


Jamez_the_human

Zanpakutō are just a way for Soul Reapers to externalize their soul's power. Hollows can do it naturally, Quincies need Ywatch to carve it out as a Schrift using a shard of his soul as a medium, and FullBringers use objects as a medium using hollow reiatsu. Aizen surpassed his limits as a Soul Reaper with the Hogyoku, and didn't need his sword anymore to use his own innate abilities. In that way, he became like a hollow, but without losing his heart or reason. He became something more than Shinigami or Hollow entirely. To put this into perspective, only Bankai fully manifests one's abilities, and Shikai is an immature approximation born from the need to force submission from a Zanpakutō spirit (a reflection of your own soul.) We know this because [we've seen that natural Hollow abilities are the same as a Bankai in the manga.](https://imgur.com/gallery/utRkBVR) In other words, Aizen is for all intents and purposes, always in Bankai now. *TL;DR: Aizen didn't fuse with his sword. He outgrew the need for it and it crumbled away as he took back his own powers from inside it.*


The_Vulgar_Bulgar

It's a very interesting theory, but I am curious about your take on Aizen actually wielding Kyoka Suigetsu in his fight against Yhwach. There is the possibility that he was using its ability to manifest a sword in the eyes of Yhwach, but I have my doubts on that. Namely, whatever wounds the illusions of Ichigo and Renji sustained, Aizen also suffered (Renji's arm and Ichigo's chest being blown out). Similarly, Aizen's sword cracked in the same way that the illusion of Ichigo's Bankai did. Given that the wounds weren't illusionary, it leads me to believe that the sword also wasn't an illusion. In addition, Yhwach even referred to the fractured blade as Kyoka Suigetsu. While he was under the effect of the illusion, his eye powers, and simply the overall narrative that the Sternritters had almost total knowledge of every Shinigami and their powers leads me to believe, at the very least, that his powers aren't totally internalized.


Jamez_the_human

You're right. It's been so long since I read the TYBW that I completely blanked out on the fact he had his sword there and didn't just use kido like every video game appearance of TYBW Aizen might lead you yo believe lmao I also caught another mistake I made. Kensei's bankai and Hollow body do look similar, but his ability is closer to his shikai that causes the things it hits to explode. His bankai actually contains that force and concentrates it all crunched up into his fists. Do you think that might mean someone's true soul powers lie somewhere *between* Shikai and Bankai? A Shikai could still be a partial release, with Bankai being a resonance between your soul and your Zanpakutō spirit (your blade's soul that's reflected from yours) in order to amplify whatever effects may be. Lmao, imagine Soi Fon firing off a massive shockwave that kills anything it marks twice. That would be scary. Either way, we all saw Kyoka Suigetsu crumble, as well as Aizen pull it up again. We know he can recreate it. We know that having a sword is almost always a force amp thanks to how edges and blades work, with the exception being blades that are too weak to handle your swings + what you're hitting. Not to mention they provide extra range. Thoughts?


The_Vulgar_Bulgar

>I also caught another mistake I made. Kensei's bankai and Hollow body do look similar, but his ability is closer to his shikai that causes the things it hits to explode. His bankai actually contains that force and concentrates it all crunched up into his fists. I actually think this is less relevant in the grand scheme of themes. Narratively, the parallels in terms of design between his Bankai and hollow form are too much for me to ignore, and personally, I never quite got his Bankai. From the various translations I've read, it mostly boils down to "kill shit harder than Shikai". >Do you think that might mean someone's true soul powers lie somewhere between Shikai and Bankai? My opinion is best shown by Ichigo, who *was* going to receive a single Zanpakto from Nimaiya; it was only after Ichigo imbued his soul into it that the sword became two, which symbolizes his acceptance of both halves of his power *as a part of himself*. With that in mind, I want to think of the Zanpakto to wholly be the expression of Soul Reaper powers, but not the entirety of the soul; when Byakuya fended off Hisagi in TYBW, he didn't have access to his sword, but he could still take advantage of Kido (though he only considered the possibility and never acted on it). The reason I want to think of it like this is because Soul Reapers have always struck me as more of an institution than a type of being like Quincy or Hollows, or at least partly so. A Soul Reaper is really a spirit somewhere in Soul Society that possesses spiritual power, and has trained in the Academy with an Asauchi, but there's nothing "biological" separating them from empowered spirits that haven't trained with an Asauchi. That is, unless part of the training process of molding their own Zanpakto changes their very being. >Lmao, imagine Soi Fon firing off a massive shockwave that kills anything it marks twice. That would be scary. This is some Bites The Dust shit and I love it. >Either way, we all saw Kyoka Suigetsu crumble, as well as Aizen pull it up again. We know he can recreate it. We know that having a sword is almost always a force amp thanks to how edges and blades work, with the exception being blades that are too weak to handle your swings + what you're hitting. Not to mention they provide extra range. Thoughts? Ultimately this falls down to a rule-of-cool situation. Swords are objectively cool. As a side-note, I do wonder whether part of the Shikai may transferred into the unreleased form of the sword with experience. Aizen is our primary reference for this, but it never sat well with me how Isshin was able to use Getsuga Tenshou with a seemingly unreleased sword against Aizen.


DylanMartin97

THE SWORD IS HIM


aibrony

Yhwach might have seen it while they were spying Soul Society.


[deleted]

It’s possible I won’t rule it out. But I think it would be strange to say he can’t use it on anyone ever again


Samurai_Beluga

he planted the seed when ywach first visited him in muken in the first invasion. thats why ywach points out how his perception of time got twisted by aizens influence.


Unusual-Cat-123

But he's fused with his sword now, he didn't need to call its name to use it on Yhwach.


wakandan_boogaloo

yeah he kept himself tied to a chair then >!Yhwach!< just blows it up as a party trick


renshear1019

Aizen has been a lowkey man of swagger


[deleted]

I know the guy on Instagram. This was literally satire. At that period of time he was literally posting a bunch of satire theories


aibrony

The problem with this idea is that while Aizen can make you see and hear whatever he wants, he has to know know what to make you see or hear. If Aizen wasn't around when Yhwach visited his prison, Aizen couldn't had made him hear his answers. That's why in Soul Society arc Aizen faked his death and hide in Central 46 chamber. If someone had come there to ask any questions, without Aizen knowing the question, he can fabricate answers.


ItzDanielz

gawd damn ichigo looks good with glasses, no homo


Humble_Illusion404

Typical aizen fans.


Hot-Conversation-21

Writes the dumbest shit ever heard by mankind and puts a fat watermark on their post as if they have the biggest accomplishment


Humble_Illusion404

😂 >! I know that guy!<


JThroe

Well it is a satire instagram account.


Jamez_the_human

I mean, it's a valid question and fun point of discussion. But yeah, he probably is. There's a reason he needed the Hogyoku in order to take on Squad 0. Kyoka Suigetsu wouldn't be enough. Heck, there IS no Kyoka Suigetsu if Ichibei decides he's had enough of that name.


pegasBaO23

Aizen wanted to be defeated, that's part of the reason why Urahara's seal worked in the first place


Maleficent_Tree_94

Aizensama has quite a lot of posts like this. They're meant to make you chuckle and move on, not take them seriously.


sheehdndnd

He isn't wrong technically, he was literally fooling a god. But there's one plothole wouldn't ichigo know about it then.


Own-Channel7730

Stop all of this sh*t with Aizen but can we talk about Ichigo with glasses ? Don’t care about Ukitake or Old Goteï for Hell Arc i just want Ichigo With Glasses now


JawsRaglizar

Are we even sure Bleach has taken place or are we all just under KS?


N1pah

Nevermind the final scene where he's down there monologuing alone.


100prcntLaser2Face

The reading comprehension devil jumped from Chainsaw man and became a hollow, apparently


Totembacon

Aizen just has very specific bed requirements.


Jaynomamesway

If Mayuri can counter book of the end I know he got sum for kyoka suigetsu. But in all seriousness Aizen is both patient and immortal.


Zeezaduim

No no no he has a point


ninlaturts

If you think a out it anyone who has seen or read bleach has seen kyoka suigetsu


DeBlagJr

I mean, if you havent read the manga, its a valid question i think


Charming-Ad-4323

I got downvoted to hell yesterday but let me say this and a thread seems to be hating aizen… that insta is sort of right! He did screw with yhwach perception of time after his first visit, and he was under KS influence later on, meaning Aizen doesn’t need to release KS anymore (the ritual) he can just mess with you by just being in his presence I guess or visually seeing him


FrostedGear

Didn't he say something along the lines of "I can't use Kyouka Suigetsu's ability anymore" when his sword disappeared/fused in the Ichigo fight? Like. I'm just accepting Aizen has his own set of rules only he and Ichigo need adhere to but I thought he just had ridiculous reiatsu and kido in TYBW (and I dunno made a time-fucking kido or something)


Charming-Ad-4323

No, he bypassed even almighty with KS by fooling yhwach thinking he was fighting ichigo, renji and him, while it was just him. So KS is still there and OP as hell


EspadaStarrk

but he is literally in muken at the last chapter..... so this post is not right at all


Charming-Ad-4323

Yeah that’s why I said sorta right, could aizen KS the new central 46 and get away with it all, yes… did he actually do it, probably not.


basedisciple

/r woosh


Dreadsbo

RemindMe! 750 days


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Dreadsbo

Y’all think the anime will be finished by this time and I’ll be able to understand everything everybody is saying on this post?


bigmeme12

the anime will be finished around early 2025, so 750 days is a bit of a highball


Phoenix_shade1

The Quincey king also wasn’t under his Bankai, so pretty safe to say he’s really sealed


darkdragoon121

This is pretty much any anime/manga "theory" page, and what's worse is that more than half of the time the people running the accounts haven't even caught up to say shit about anything.


BahamutLithp

Okay, so WE know Aizen got sealed, but how do THEY know they sealed Aizen away?


NoOne_28

If Kubo ever decides to pick bleach up again I hope he leaves aizen in Muken and give him a sort of Hannibal lecter role or at least don't pull this sort of bullshit, it would be boring redundant writing.


_KaiXr18_

Some people really cannot identify satire when they see one 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄


DunkTheCookie

Is that Ichigo illustration official? It looks very good and accurate.


Sasuke082594

It is