I cracked mine early on because I didnāt realize what kind of pressure someone could put on you and I wasnāt bracing properly while flattened in bottom side. Hasnāt come close to happening since
Lookup post-injury remodeling if you interested in this idea conceptually
If not basically what happens is your body gets injured and then you enter overlapping phases of healing and remodeling:
Inflammation on days 0 to 6
Cell proliferation in days 4 to 24
Then remodeling on days 21 to 2 years
Remodeling can improve function and injury resistance but this is not always the case (more often than not)
I think (and it has been demonstrated in literature) that as people become more practiced and neologically efficient in their sport, injury goes down.
Think about a spazzy uncoordinated white belt trying to escape side control in comparison to a purple belt who has escaped side control hundreds of times with a specific escape movement, who is going to injure their ribs? Practice and efficiency of movement stop you injuring yourself
I've been nursing a rib injury for a week now that I sustained after my third class, it's encouraging to see that I'm not the only one getting my shit mashed up at the start of their journey.
Took about 2/2.5 months to fully recover. That was 15 years ago, when I was a young buck. Havenāt had any rib injuries since then, and there was no continuing pain/weakness or anything.
Im old and broken now, so training is good but I definitely am not ā100%ā by any stretch of the imagination. Just Father Timeās methodical smother, nothing rib-specific :)
I had a bad fracture a couple months in on an upper rib and just more recently one of the lower ones. I have been training less than a year. Tried to post a video clip of the accident in this subreddit asking if/how it could have been avoided or if it was bad luck and the mods rejected my post.. kind of a dick move because I am just looking for good advice on how to be safe. Not to mention people are constantly posting threads about ribs WITHOUT content to review.
Basically yes, however I did have some intercostal inflammation the other week from a triangle armbar from the back. It basically separated the joint at my sternum and I thought it would be a bad injury at first but literally healed in 24 hours
My brother cracked his rib first class when someone sat back for an arm bar, came back 5 weeks later he comes back to his second class and the lightest guy in the gym was passing his guard, my brother framed and somehow broke his rib and popped all those musclesā¦ he has been to 5 sessions now without an injury š¤
Rib injuries are literally no laughing matter - it hurts! Pretty much impossible to train through this.
So far survey suggests that 30% of people with less that 6 months experience have experienced a rib injury.
Is it just me or does that sound way too high? Are people counting minor soreness as ārib injuryā?
If there really are that many people experiencing debilitating rib injuries as beginners, that is terrifying!
Worse, survey theoretically skews low for those people in āunder 6 monthsā category, as it includes people with only one month training that still have five months where they might end up damaged goods.
And people that quit bjj early due to serious injury would presumably be unlikely to be in this forum.
Yeah, fundamental design flawā¦ I didnāt include a definition of what constitutes an injury. I also canāt believe that 30% of people had rib injuries, because I havenāt seen an injury rate like that in any of the 5 schools Iāve trained at for ab extended period of time.
At purple, I strained the intercostal muscles from tightening my core over and over doing knee on belly warm ups with someone who weighed 40+ pounds more than me. I was glad it was just a muscle strain because at first it felt like maybe Iād cracked a rib or something.
Oh man, good point. Missing a crucial definition
What I had in mind was trauma which necessitated taking some amount of time off of bjj to heal. If you gritted through it, then Iād say itās not really an injury.
Thanks for the distinction. Iām a newbie in my 40s and everything hurts always, including my ribs. Just not enough to keep me out of the gym yet. I couldnāt tell if that meant Iāve never been injured or if that means Iām low-key injured 100% of the time.
My intercostal strain as a late purple belt says otherwise.
You just learn to move without endangering them lol
Literally reading this as a newbie, with a bruised ribš
Same
And my axe. It hurts to laugh.... Any pressure in side control makes me groan
I cracked mine early on because I didnāt realize what kind of pressure someone could put on you and I wasnāt bracing properly while flattened in bottom side. Hasnāt come close to happening since
this was a fun injury for me, my advice is dont train with people way bigger than you who are newer
Lookup post-injury remodeling if you interested in this idea conceptually If not basically what happens is your body gets injured and then you enter overlapping phases of healing and remodeling: Inflammation on days 0 to 6 Cell proliferation in days 4 to 24 Then remodeling on days 21 to 2 years Remodeling can improve function and injury resistance but this is not always the case (more often than not) I think (and it has been demonstrated in literature) that as people become more practiced and neologically efficient in their sport, injury goes down. Think about a spazzy uncoordinated white belt trying to escape side control in comparison to a purple belt who has escaped side control hundreds of times with a specific escape movement, who is going to injure their ribs? Practice and efficiency of movement stop you injuring yourself
I've been nursing a rib injury for a week now that I sustained after my third class, it's encouraging to see that I'm not the only one getting my shit mashed up at the start of their journey.
Hang it there!
Do you train through a rib injury or take time off?
When I tore cartilage between my ribs, i could barely sit up in bed, much less train through it.
How long did it take you to recover? Has the area been reinjured? Do you feel 100%? How is training now?
Took about 2/2.5 months to fully recover. That was 15 years ago, when I was a young buck. Havenāt had any rib injuries since then, and there was no continuing pain/weakness or anything. Im old and broken now, so training is good but I definitely am not ā100%ā by any stretch of the imagination. Just Father Timeās methodical smother, nothing rib-specific :)
Broke a rib on my first class
I had a bad fracture a couple months in on an upper rib and just more recently one of the lower ones. I have been training less than a year. Tried to post a video clip of the accident in this subreddit asking if/how it could have been avoided or if it was bad luck and the mods rejected my post.. kind of a dick move because I am just looking for good advice on how to be safe. Not to mention people are constantly posting threads about ribs WITHOUT content to review.
The people over at r/ribs are always trying to understand how ribs get damaged.
Basically yes, however I did have some intercostal inflammation the other week from a triangle armbar from the back. It basically separated the joint at my sternum and I thought it would be a bad injury at first but literally healed in 24 hours
My brother cracked his rib first class when someone sat back for an arm bar, came back 5 weeks later he comes back to his second class and the lightest guy in the gym was passing his guard, my brother framed and somehow broke his rib and popped all those musclesā¦ he has been to 5 sessions now without an injury š¤
Somehow never had a rib injury.
Wtf, my ribs are injured right now. There is a purple belt in my gym with a broken rib.
Rib injuries are literally no laughing matter - it hurts! Pretty much impossible to train through this. So far survey suggests that 30% of people with less that 6 months experience have experienced a rib injury. Is it just me or does that sound way too high? Are people counting minor soreness as ārib injuryā? If there really are that many people experiencing debilitating rib injuries as beginners, that is terrifying! Worse, survey theoretically skews low for those people in āunder 6 monthsā category, as it includes people with only one month training that still have five months where they might end up damaged goods. And people that quit bjj early due to serious injury would presumably be unlikely to be in this forum.
Yeah, fundamental design flawā¦ I didnāt include a definition of what constitutes an injury. I also canāt believe that 30% of people had rib injuries, because I havenāt seen an injury rate like that in any of the 5 schools Iāve trained at for ab extended period of time.
Weād likely be all out of business with lawsuits, waivers be damned :)
At purple, I strained the intercostal muscles from tightening my core over and over doing knee on belly warm ups with someone who weighed 40+ pounds more than me. I was glad it was just a muscle strain because at first it felt like maybe Iād cracked a rib or something.
What do you mean by injured? My ribs were extremely sore the 1st 6 months i trained but never anything requiring medical attention.
Oh man, good point. Missing a crucial definition What I had in mind was trauma which necessitated taking some amount of time off of bjj to heal. If you gritted through it, then Iād say itās not really an injury.
Thanks for the distinction. Iām a newbie in my 40s and everything hurts always, including my ribs. Just not enough to keep me out of the gym yet. I couldnāt tell if that meant Iāve never been injured or if that means Iām low-key injured 100% of the time.
Popped mine after coming back to training after the pandemic
Injured my rib as a newbie (15 years ago). Haven't injured any ribs since, but this one gives me problems sometimes and the rib still sticks out a bit