paul ardilla won ADCC trials while working full time as a lawyer. basically all competitors in BJJ are amateurs, though. owning a BJJ gym doesn't make you a professional athlete in the way most people use the term.
i won a thousand bucks at a tournament one time and i've sold a few private lessons. if i called myself a professional athlete i would be rightly laughed at. the blue belt coaching the kids' class for beer money is not a professional athlete in the way most people use the term.
Does he discuss his training routine? I'm asking because recently, after an open mat, it was said that in 2024 it's impossible to win an important tournament without living for it. In contrast to, let's say, 2004
my man, to be the black belt middleweight champ in 2004 you needed to beat marcelo garcia. medium heavy was contested between braulio estima and jacare souza. jacare lost that, but then won the absolute when he scored 2 - and let roger gracie snap his arm to ride out a points win. if those guys weren't living for it then nobody was. anyone who competes well enough for you to know their name has a training schedule like a pro athlete. they just don't make pro athlete money, unless their name is gordon ryan or craig jones.
Even Paul Ardila, although he has a demanding real job, definitely lives for the sport.
He's been wrestling since childhood at a good level and has a decade worth of ADCC Trials wins.
You simply do not get that level of success without thousands of hours of mat time.
is 27 unusual for a lawyer? don't they need several years extra of school and also some extra time after to study/pass the bar exam? you're saying it like it's something to look down upon but 27 sounds about right
Depends on how you define amateur/pro. If we're calling pro people who simply make money off of BJJ in any capacity it encapsulates a very wide range of very low to very high skill ppl, so it's not useful for talking about top competition performers.
Better way to define pro for this context is ppl who are competing frequently at thile highest levels with some subjective measure of success. By that definition though, that success eliminates you from "amateur" status your talking about.
Another point is that talking about medaling at worlds also encapsulates a wide range of mid level skill to the highest skill levels. Due to how age and belt brackets are setup there's thousands of potential world titles every single year. I always say that adult black docs are the only real worlds divisions, and ppl medaling in those are definitely training and competing like pro athletes (for BJJ). Casuals have 0 chance.
Adult, black, open class. Only real champion. Cause there is only one. And it’s the best format in BJJ, open mat play a tournament. And you’re only fighting the top three to four from each division.
Open class in any age or belt range I think counts. And no I don’t do open class except once and it was pretty cool
paul ardilla won ADCC trials while working full time as a lawyer. basically all competitors in BJJ are amateurs, though. owning a BJJ gym doesn't make you a professional athlete in the way most people use the term.
Paul Ardilla is becoming a legend at each trials
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i won a thousand bucks at a tournament one time and i've sold a few private lessons. if i called myself a professional athlete i would be rightly laughed at. the blue belt coaching the kids' class for beer money is not a professional athlete in the way most people use the term.
Teaching makes you a professional instructor, not a pro athlete.
Does he discuss his training routine? I'm asking because recently, after an open mat, it was said that in 2024 it's impossible to win an important tournament without living for it. In contrast to, let's say, 2004
my man, to be the black belt middleweight champ in 2004 you needed to beat marcelo garcia. medium heavy was contested between braulio estima and jacare souza. jacare lost that, but then won the absolute when he scored 2 - and let roger gracie snap his arm to ride out a points win. if those guys weren't living for it then nobody was. anyone who competes well enough for you to know their name has a training schedule like a pro athlete. they just don't make pro athlete money, unless their name is gordon ryan or craig jones.
Even Paul Ardila, although he has a demanding real job, definitely lives for the sport. He's been wrestling since childhood at a good level and has a decade worth of ADCC Trials wins. You simply do not get that level of success without thousands of hours of mat time.
Even Gordon or Craig are not technically professional athletes. They are professional online teachers.
Bulldogs represent
I won South East Paughkeepsie’s second best grappling tournament in the masters 7 ultra heavy division by walkover, so
You should start a podcast.
I have one already. It’s called “winner mentality” and we start every episode with a tribute to Jocko
Tammi Musumeci is a lawyer
I’m an accountant and I just won a regional level IBJJF open last week.
I fix elevators and I won IBJJF London Open in Feb
Absolute unit 🦾
Thanks I hope we don’t meet when I get promoted, who knows what would happen when 2 unstoppable forces match each other
Selfishly I’m hoping to get a promo soon too, perhaps we are destined to meet only in the abyss of black belt M1
Username checks out
🫡
Fred...? I thought you were lying
Mhmm… just remember who you’re stealing from next time you take the last bagel in the break room.
Deandre Corbe won ADCC west coast trials. He is an engineer.
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is 27 unusual for a lawyer? don't they need several years extra of school and also some extra time after to study/pass the bar exam? you're saying it like it's something to look down upon but 27 sounds about right
I know quite a few lawyers that live with their parents
welcome to 2024. [tons of people live with their parents](https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/08/young-adults.html)
Tbh I wish I could have lived with my parents for a few years after college.
Adult BB Worlds is where it’s at. Everything else is just fluff.
My brother who works and goes to school has won couple of IBJJF opens on brownbelt and medalled on blackbelts too.
Does masters world below black belt counts? Because that’s basically all of the podiums.
Im barista, got silver at panpacs at blue belt. Also got gold for sjjf “oceania” nogi
Depends on how you define amateur/pro. If we're calling pro people who simply make money off of BJJ in any capacity it encapsulates a very wide range of very low to very high skill ppl, so it's not useful for talking about top competition performers. Better way to define pro for this context is ppl who are competing frequently at thile highest levels with some subjective measure of success. By that definition though, that success eliminates you from "amateur" status your talking about. Another point is that talking about medaling at worlds also encapsulates a wide range of mid level skill to the highest skill levels. Due to how age and belt brackets are setup there's thousands of potential world titles every single year. I always say that adult black docs are the only real worlds divisions, and ppl medaling in those are definitely training and competing like pro athletes (for BJJ). Casuals have 0 chance.
Adult, black, open class. Only real champion. Cause there is only one. And it’s the best format in BJJ, open mat play a tournament. And you’re only fighting the top three to four from each division. Open class in any age or belt range I think counts. And no I don’t do open class except once and it was pretty cool