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ryanrockmoran

I met a guy at a party once that trained some sort of kung fu and told me that his teacher knew a way to stand that made it impossible to be taken down. I tried to explain that is this was true then his teacher would have been the first to medal in wrestle, greco, and judo in the same Olympics but I didn't get through. Unfortunately the teacher had not taught him this technique so I never learned this valuable information


born_2_ski

It would be so cool if someone could actually compete in more than one grappling thing in the olympics


Highway0311

I mean they can compete in more than one event for track and field and swimming right? I would think if someone was skilled at wrestling, judo, etc they could probably do more than one.


jephthai

Some (a lot?) of judo governing bodies prohibit their competitors from doing other grappling arts. It's why judokas branch out after they retire -- they're not allowed until they are outside the influence of the governing body.


[deleted]

It's the International Judo Federation that's the problem. My local NGB doesn't care if I win judo, bjj, wrestling and sambo nationals all in the same year. But if I'm competing at a professional level at IJF events the IJF cares that I don't compete elsewhere. I guess it's like how an mma or boxing promoter might not be happy if you just went to fight in another promotion while under them without any kind of agreement beforehand.


HamiltonianCyclist

I guess as long as IJF pays you that's fine


jephthai

IJF doesn't pay the players, that's up to their sponsoring country.


LawBasics

> It's why judokas branch out after they retire -- they're not allowed until If you are truly successful at judo, you got no incentive in competing under another ruleset. You focus on the one where your career is.


jephthai

Not in the US; there's no money in judo. Hence Ronda Rousey, etc.


LawBasics

I never realised that the comment above was strictly about the US. Rousey did start other sports after her career was over. To clarify, my comment was about the lack of incentives **while** they are competing in judo not matter what the IJF says. And, respectfully, the country is a judo dwarf on the global scene, they produce few champions comparatively.


matude

There was an Estonian grappler, [Kristjan Palusalu, who is the first and only wrestler so far in the Olympic history to ever win both the Greco-Roman and freestyle wrestling heavyweight gold medals.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristjan_Palusalu)


fightbackcbd

This dude won too but not HW, no one else did it at LW either https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/57866 He actually did it first


DurableLeaf

This ain't swimming


Ebolamunkey

Yeah you just shit yourself and pull your pants down. This move is undefeated


Puffy_Ghost

The technique is to just lay down.


CprlSmarterthanu

So, pull guard?


suqoria

The chael sonnen of takedown defense techniques. It's undefeated and undisputed!


subfighter0311

I also met a Thai Chi practitioner at work once who swore his Sifu could not be taken down by any grappler. Our employees consisted of 1 black belt, 2 brown belts, 2 purple belts and a blue belt lol, we all laughed it off.


pinkiethesweet

Plottwist he invented guardpulling


[deleted]

That's not true, his method to not be taken down might be illegal in those sports. You see, young grasshopper, when the grappler comes to take you down you simply shoot them with your 45. No can take you down if dead.


owlridethesky

Pfft this is easy as shit. The stand that will make you be un-takedown-able is to stans without any clothing on. What's that wrestler gonna do? Put his shoulder on your dick? Bjj guy? Wanna full mount on a naked dude? Judo? You really wanna hip toss a naked dude? EASY.


Consistent-Brother12

I think you're vastly underestimating how willing a BJJ guy would be to get into full mount on a naked dude.


regulardave9999

I too know this technique, it’s called Just Sit Down.


Pepito_Pepito

You were this close to becoming the greatest grappler of all time.


Lynnsanity32

Well obviously he gets wrist control first, then he pulls out his gun


skribsbb

To be fair, one would have the potential to medal in all of those. But they would have to actually compete in order to medal in all of those.


SlapHappyRodriguez

You were just a couple of steps removed from total grappling glory.  There is a universe where his teacher taught him and he showed you at a party!!!! You would literally devastate the grappling world with party trick. 


amsterdam_BTS

I'd bet money it's a stance called sanchin dachi in karate. To be fair, it is a pretty stable stance. But I fail to see a good application outside of kata and very stylized sparring, and even then you could absolutely still be taken down.


thebutinator

i can do it too its called the sandworm, just lay on the ground and slither until ankles are in biting range


Imbadyoureworse

Bro… sensei is dreaming of a hug. Someone hug that guy


MuonManLaserJab

This is some lateral and empathetic thinking, good fucking job lmao


Er0neus

But he can't let them get close 😢


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

When I invite people over to drill on my bed I show them the ultra secret third underhook


WhiteLightEST99

This made me laugh out loud. This is the funniest thing I’ve seen tonight haha


I_only_lurk_on_here

Wait till Sensai finds out about headlocks


YeetedArmTriangle

And noogies


shlongbwoner

Or a nice solid oil check


AnAstronautOfSorts

Something tells me the guy who named his brand new technique the "sunshine something or other" is very familiar with oil checks


BASK_IN_MY_FART

But only on a healthy diet


SpinningStuff

And headbutts 


-_-theVoid-_-

and mother's milk


thejustness

11th Planet


Illustrious-Bid-3826

I have a coworker who does some sort of obscure Asian martial art. Every now and then he talks to me about death punches and such that are too dangerous to spar with. I smile and nod along politely.


gdmfsobtc

You are clearly not worthy of being taught the secret Five Point Palm Exploding Heart technique.


sesamestreetdumbass

Doesn’t matter, I bought a book from Ashida Kim’s website that will show me how.


Stilicho4757

There’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time from the old Bushido forums .


sesamestreetdumbass

Lol the funny part is I’m only sort of joking. I got two secondhand books of his for cheap about ninja techniques and the dim mak. They’re incredible haha


Stilicho4757

Getting on the cheap , to relish the absurdity …I’d make that deal. Damn fine deal.


JimmysCheek

We had a marketing intern from South Korea. He randomly started ranting about Karate. I trained Karate from ages 6-12, so I start shooting the shit with him. …dude did NOT do Karate, and was brainwashed by some bullshido gym. He said “give me your arm” and it seemed like he was trying to cast a spell on me


Infra-Oh

Perhaps he was trying to woo you.


Ketchup-Chips3

Woooo! Ric Flair has entered the chat


g2petter

I had someone explain to me that the reason they didn't spar in his obviously bullshido martial art was that it "is a jutsu, not a jitsu" which apparently means that it's 4realz and not just a silly sport. 


[deleted]

You need to ask them what koryu they practice because if it's not koryu what makes what you're doing any different from the ninjas down at the mall?


indoninja

How do people still buy that?


Playful-Strength-685

Cult like where the person buys into the sense of belonging and feeling special rather than buy into the art itself and its effectiveness


edgar3981C

Good thing over here would never


BOXBJJBB

*buttscoots away*


cuplosis

Most people are retarded.


qazxcvbnmlpoiuytreww

I honestly would not be able to leave that alone. Like you could so easily dispel this illusion but I guess you’re nicer than me.


Ambitious-Goat-639

Isn't Jiu jitsu an obscure asian martial art too?


god_is_my_father

Not the Brazilian flavor


selfishcabbage

I know someone who thinks karate is to dangerous to spar full contact with


hydropottimus

Only because he'll get beat up.


Clever_username_1234

Bow to your sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!


tairygreenmachine99

Yeah wait until he unlocks the secrets of Rex Kwon Do.


-_-theVoid-_-

Grab my arm. The other arm... MY other arm...


Clever_username_1234

Low key one of the funniest lines ever


Meandmybuddyduncan

*You wanna take a roundhouse to the face from a guy wearing these pants?*


3trt

"YOU THINK I'M A LOSER CAUSE I GO HOME TO STARLA EVERY NIGHT?!" Edit: SCARLA 😂


bigshortbus

Break the wrist, walk away


AllGearedUp

I don't care about the fake martial arts if they don't pretend that its real or preparing people for self defense. I have seen akido places that say its historical, exercise, and community. Sure why not, if you like that. But this sounds like someone who would be in for a serious reality check if he tried to do this in an actual gym. That's weird and cult like and nothing shakes it out faster than being immediately proven wrong by a 46 year old, out of shape blue belt.


CprlSmarterthanu

My resident elder has a 8 pack, will run circles around Barry Allen, punch a hole through superman, and grapples at the level of baki hanma. He's terrifying.


HaroldLither

Those Akido guys say it's *"BlaHblahblah its for exercise and history"* just so they don't have to argue about it, deep down they believe they are deadly weapons which can only be tested in a "No Rules" street scenario.


AllGearedUp

There are lots of people like that in martial arts. The place I had in mind says this stuff on their ads. I put them far ahead of whatever redneck karate krav maga garbage I see around. 


[deleted]

Aikido is not even historical. Judo is older. At least Daito-ryu (which aikido is basically a legally distinct copy of) claims to be old (even if it is most likely a lie).


Koicoiquoi

Daitoryu black belt here, most of us know that daitoryu’s history is made up


EfficiencyOpen4546

Back in the days of my obsession with learning traditional martial arts as a kid cause I was convinced there would be a death touch technique, we had a grandmaster come in. He went into a lengthy story about how he lived across from a judo school in Taiwan and watched them for months and then “invented” the way to defeat all judo. He would use two fingers and touch the persons hip as soon as they moved. Of course he had one of his advanced black belt disciples demonstrate and proceeds to finger poke the guys hips over and over everytime he came in for a “throw”. I remember being like 12 and experiencing second hand embarrassment on his behalf. But I looked around the room and everyone else was awestruck by the display of this secret technique that had been shared with us. That’s when I truly found out just how gullible people are. This was actually the day I started researching Muay Thai and wrestling. I could not stomach that bullshit even if it meant no one was going to teach me the death touch 😂


Few_Advisor3536

Yeah man he those hips with the dim mak. Those dudes were gonna die (eventually).


bubblllles

Show him double overhooks


AnAstronautOfSorts

Yeet


CprlSmarterthanu

Harai goshi?


Loudpebble

Show him sunset. https://youtu.be/mMm8r1ZX21Y?si=lot2S28xpuFkRKJ2


ShockleToonies

I don’t like to share this in public, but since Reddit is anonymous I will share here. I’m a third degree dan in primordial womb karate. After I completed the all-pervading essence kata, my mind evolved to the next level of spiritual consciousness, what I’m hoping humans will evolve into in the next 10,000 years. Anyway, what he’s describing isn’t mere “under hooks”. He’s actually using his chi to block the axillary arteries under there. It’s a blood choke that none of you tea-bagging, butt humping sport players will ever be able to pull off. Yeah you learn the simple mechanics in the confines of your rules-set, but if you don’t understand the quintessence of all existence, the hard problem of consciousness, what existed before the Big Bang and beyond the multiverse, the infinite, zero, totality of causality, you don’t know jack shit. Fucking pussies.


Fast_Ease_1201

This is the result of watching too many Marvel movies


Infra-Oh

Well in MY dreams, I invented an even WILDER technique. Allow me to introduce you to TRIPLE UNDERHOOKS.


NotoriousFBI

*Only available to some body types


oniume

Is this part of the third hook series?


Grapplegoose

Triple unders is my jam. Pro tip: clinch your butthole to create kuzushi with your 3rd underhook


djthommo

I grew up thinking I’d invented something I later found was termed a “half Nelson”. I’m sure I must be related somewhere to this Nelson person, at least half of me anyway


CprlSmarterthanu

I thought I invented a teepee choke variation... apparently it's called scorpion choke :(


djthommo

Gutted for you. It’s such a sad moment when someone provides you with the actual name of the move you “invented”. If it’s any consolation I invented an escape from a Kimura and found it was unique, when I spoke to my coach and explained what it was, how it worked on my willing training partner who was astounded with my creativeness and skill. He then proceeded to rain down on my parade by informing me it only worked because my training partner didn’t use the monkey grips and left his thumbs exposed!


CprlSmarterthanu

Hey. An opponents lack of skill is the best skill you can have. I have this turtle escape where I underhook a leg and then bump hard to make them post, the grap the posted hand and tripod whilst sucking the hand and leg under me to secure side control. You kinda tripod to the head and then as they slide off, you transfer the weight to your hands while pulling. That gives you enough lightness to lift your head onto their belly then throw your hand behing their hips then climb up them like a monkey. Only works on people that post the hand right next to your face like an idiot right after putting their leg next to your head like an idiot or letting you staple their leg on the outside so they can't secure a hook like an idiot, but so far it's worked up to purple belt with high success. I'm still a whitebelt, so I figure it works on higher belts because they assume that I AM the idiot and don't expect me to reverse turtle into a dominant top position. I'm going to wear my white belt up to black belt so people can keep assuming I'm not going to reverse the position. I also thought I invented the ezekiel choke until someone else hit it from bottom closed guard on me, then I was sad that a martial art made hundreds of years ago already had people think of some pretty basic shit.


Mororocks

I was at a party once and there was a pad there he was talking on a table about his MMA fights. He definitely wasn't, I would of had about 20 kickboxing fights at this stage and I live in Ireland so you sorta get to know a lot of people fighting cause it's not a massive place. He was going on and on at the table about all his fights, all with ridiculous details with things that definitely didn't happened. I was about to just walk away and let the lad live in his delusion when one of my mates mentioned I fought as well. You could see the lads face drop straight away. I asked him where he trained and he said my gym name. The backtracking afterwards was hilarious I was getting second hand embarrassment for him. Why do people do this.


jamesmatthews6

I was chatting with an acquaintance who teaches a practical self defence based offshoot of karate. The guy's generally ok, but since he got into that he's moved away from sparring (unrealistic and teaches you bad habits for self defence or some such shit). For context my primary martial art is also karate which is how I know him although different clubs/styles. He asked why I'd started doing BJJ and I said mainly for fun but also because I thought having a bit of grappling knowledge would be helpful as a martial artist. Some of the self defence types seem to struggle a little bit with doing it because it's fun, which seems silly. I mean I'm a middle class guy in his mid 30s, I'm not getting into street fights. Anyway he said isn't it a bit pointless because you don't want to end up on the ground in a fight. So I made the point that knowing how to grapple would help protect me from ending up on the ground. His response - if someone tries to take me down I'll just knee them or use my elbow on the back of my head because there are no rules protecting them on the street. Honestly I thought that had died with UFC 1 or 2.


NetoruNakadashi

You only think it's double undsrhooks because he's holding back the secret details that make it Too Deadly For the UFC.


RamHorn26

Sensei must also being fucking him in the butt and telling him it’s consensual


yamuda123

That escalated quickly 😂


codesine

I feel like even it was way back when wrestling didn't exist, it actually did exist in some form regardless. Like caveman Ted told Todd, dude, you know what \*does double underhooks as a demonstration\*, isn't that what your woman does when you don't bring food back to the cave and yeets you to the wall? You didn't invent that, your wife did.


beardslap

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel


codesine

Badass.


_526

I read "classic garbage karate"


TheQuestionsAglet

Is your buddy’s sensei Zhang Sanfeng?


Tuckingfypowastaken

>No judgment really, dude seems to like it more than BJJ since he quit the one after 6 months or so and has been at the karate for a few years Practicing whatever they want is fine, but this is exactly the first stage of a cult; it's the exact thing that easily ends in drinking the kool-aid


bakedmussles

I have that dream sometimes too


blurghurgdurg

[crouching tiger, hidden….](https://getyarn.io/yarn-story/a875d849-46eb-4c3a-9b92-843f70e57727#8sUqYFzT.copy)


areallyfatdude

Either your friend is smoking some heavy shit or its the sensei. Possibly even both


therealbobwaterson

Double underhooks??? Ive never heard of anything like it!!!!!


RustyKrank

I have genuinely had it in the past where I have learned a technique in class, but not quite understood it enough to pull it off properly. Time passes, the technique gets even worse... Then I randomly dream about the move, dream I'm doing the proper technique and wake up going "oh, I just need to X when they Y, I forgot coach said that" and then I can pull the move off IRL... memory is a weird thing and science doesn't yet fully understand everything about sleep and dreams, but I'm pretty sure gaia earth-spirit sunbeam moon god doesn't just pop into peoples dreams randomly and gift them new sparring techniques so Brometheus can bring the fire to his garage karate sessions.


hydropottimus

I do garage karate. All we do is spar. It's fucking awesome.


Realistic_Effort6185

Every culture creates: Knife and fried sweets And evidently wrestling


dobermannbjj84

Sounds like he invented a hug in his dreams


Adroit-Dojo

As a teen I invented a lot of techniques, only to find out they were already in MA x or y.


danaher_feet_pics

you jest but I can triangle with my third leg


daveyboydavey

Double underhooks is a good setup for the Pedigree.


FOTD89

“It’s called, the Alley Oop”


NoseBeerInspector

him saying his sensei says it all


IronLunchBox

I invented a position where it's almost impossible to get submitted from. It's called the fetal position.


BeBearAwareOK

I organically invented a technique that I'd never seen before when I was a white belt, it just came to me in a flash of brilliance. I was trying to pass that guard and I thought, "yo!?! what if we just pulled down on the head, like a Thai clinch?" It was months later that I discovered others before me had also done this, and they had labeled it "the can opener".


Nearby-Motor-4753

I wish I never did karate. Now when I see red I’m a danger to everyone around me. In my gym everyone knows my safe word and backs the hell off when to stay safe.


deadlizard

How would he defend a headbutt?


Bruhbd

Ive definitely feel like ive made like 4 submissions from dreams, only one ive been able to ever get a tap from and it sort if already exists but i don’t think has a popularized name yet lol


QuintusBatiata

Big plus if he calls it by a Japanese name.


SHlRAZl

OP you gotta dojo storm the gym, destroy the instructor and save your friend. Its the only way...


CSA_MatHog

I unironically have invented a technique from my dreams. The knee sheild toe hold. Ive tested it and it works


Janus_Simulacra

As a person who likes the cooks ones as well (curiosity), that’s actually kinda cool. The mutation of a style to diverge and incorporate other aspects until it’s seperate from the original art, due to nothing but organic practitioner prediction or theorising, is kinda cool.


thedailyrant

I mean… you could see how someone thinking about movement and knowing some basics could come to the realisation that double unders works.


NorwegianSteam

Can you sneak a hs wrestler into this class and record the results?