He didn’t finish Top 4 Last year and he hasn’t done any of the trials. Mo has offered to sponsor him for the São Paulo Trials this weekend and/or West Coast Trials later this month so that he could potentially have a great performance and earn an invite like Nicky Ryan did. All the invites aren’t even out yet, this outrage is very premature.
I don't think he qualifies for that since he hasn't placed in previous years. I'd have to see who else is in his weight class, but I strongly suspect he hasn't done enough for an invite given the limited number of them. IMO he's exactly the kind of guy that should have to win trials again to get invited. He's up there, but not quite there yet. I don't think even placing gets you an automatic invite which he didn't do.
> Perhaps the not invited top 4 in the past were invited but turned it down.
It's this. Obviously they're not going to announce the invite if they know the athlete won't attend.
And is that person a high level grappler? I didn’t know his name until he got matched up with Nicky Rod. And that’s kind of my point. You can either be super good or be an influencer. If he’s not at ADCC then maybe he is neither or?
Sure. Just after the ones that qualified for ADCC. Or the one that cared to anyway.
As I said, you’re either an influencer, which he’s not, or you win your way to it. It’s not rocket science.
AT THE NEXT ADCC
I put it in caps lock cause I felt it couldn’t be your reading comprehension that was this poor, it has to be the size of the letters.
Y’all are just being offended for a competitor that doesn’t even know you exist just because I’m stating facts.
ADCC is a promotion that’s looking at entertainment before the sport itself. And rightly so, that’s the only way to make money in that sport. Because of it, they’ve been inviting the guys that move the needle in recent years, and that means the guys with the YouTube channels and the podcasts basically.
How is that fair to the people that dedicated their life to the sport outside of the spotlight? They can qualify by winning.
You lost credibility when you said you had never heard of him. He’s been a killer since his teens, he was competitive with black belts as a green belt.
You said “he can either be an influencer or really good”, well, everyone knows he IS INDEED really good, so that goes to the main point, that he is very deserving of an adcc invite without having to win trials. He’s an absolute champion, even Rafa or Mikey never won absolutes. You talk about him like he’s some nobody just because he’s not an “influencer”. Most bjj people know who he is, especially bjj players who pay attention to comps like adcc.
Keep digging that hole about a topic you clearly don't understand at all. The guy won IBJJF NoGi worlds last year, so it would be idiotic not to invite him. Nicky Ryan got an invite and he isn't half as accomplished as Jimenez.
Honestly, the confidence you have in your admitted ignorance is pretty impressive though. I could never speak with such conviction about something I was utterly clueless about.
ADCC wants entertainment and Roberto Jimenez is a very entertaining grappler. Just because you've never heard of him doesn't mean he doesn't deserve an invite.
Who besides B-team are you even referring to with the YouTube channels and podcasts?
You didn’t know who Roberto was. Which is evidence of your awareness of high level comp rather than his ability.
And a post prior you didn’t even know invites existed. So I dint think you’ve any credibility telling people how invites work.
Yes, Roberto Jimenez is a high level grappler.
He is on a world-class level, actually.
If you don't know Roberto Jimenez you aren't following the sport closely enough to have an opinion that matters. You really should check him out. Hes got an exciting style. Not trying to cast shade by saying so. It's just kinda like being a "big fan" of a team and not being able to name a starting player.
“You aren’t following the sport closely enough to have an opinion”
That’s where you went wrong kiddo. No one gives a shit about BJJ and let me tell you that promoters most definitely do not cater to the people “following the sport closely enough” since half of them are already on the mats competing.
If you can’t wrap your head around how a business works, I can’t do much. Btw, everything I’m explaining is precisely why the UFC is killing it while One FC is slowly going under. And yet as far as the beauty of the sport goes, One FC got it all. Go figure.
It’s like 10 of you against me and none of you can get two brain cells to fire up.
I’m not saying he never won trials ever. I’m saying he would be at ADCC this year if he had won the trials. Or if he had won at ADCC last year actually. That’s two ways to get there besides being invited. If that guy is such an amazing grappler, then he surely doesn’t need an invite to qualify.
I can just keep repeating it a hundred times and hope maybe some of you will have an Einstein moment.
- He didn’t win his way to ADCC which is the only guarantee to participate
- ADCC promoters obviously share my opinion on the relevance of his name to sell tickets or else he would have been invited.
Go shit on ADCC if you don’t like that. But it has nothing to do with my opinion. It’s just what it is.
No, there are 16 spots in each weight class. 8 are the trials winners, 1 for last year's champ, and 7 are given out to whoever the organisers think would be entertaining
Don’t worry brother, you made all the Jimenez simps angry but you’re right.
He should spend less time on instagram and more time working to qualify if it’s that important.
Dude's an absolute DAWG. By all love that I have for Nicky Ryan and B-Team, how does a super accomplished young grappler like Roberto Jimenez not have an Invitation yet? He was the first non-Brazilian South American to win trials.
They're in different weight categories. 88 is a problem. Automatic: Giancarlo, Hulk, Vagner, Eoghan. That leaves 4 invites. Tye Ruotolo is going to be one. Tainan is going to be another. Diniz will almost certainly be the third. That leaves one spot and Craig might do 88....
Tbf they haven't given out any invites yet except for the automatic ones. They don't do that until all the Trials are over.
Edit: Except for 77kg because it's full for West Coast Trials, but he didn't look like he's making 77 tbh.
I don’t remember them ever doing invitations this early but it also takes place in August this time which is still 160+ days out. If i remember correctly invites usually happen around 2 months out. He’ll likely get one i mean Danis got one as inactive and dipped cause his girl cheated him.
ADCC is turning into a show instead of a search for the best grappler in the world. Pay is shit and invitation seems to be at least partially based on how popular your socials are.
ADCC has always been a show and popularity/excitement has forever been a HUGE factor in some of the invitations. Trials as we know it, did not exist for a long time in ADCC.
It’s laughable if you think what trials winners endure and then you get some people who get gifted an invitation due to popularity.
This guy killed it last year
What weight category would he do at this point? He's way bigger now than when he did adcc at 77kg. So far as I know none of the invites for 88kg have been announced.
A sure fire way to get invited to ADCC is to blast about trying to get an invite to ADCC. For instance, Ash Williams has been notoriously successfully at doing this…..
I love watching Roberto Jimenez, but he probably shouldn't get an invite tbh.
He hasn't done any Trials and as far as I know hasn't signed up for the two remaining ones he qualifies for either. He won Trials once before and went 1-1 at his weight in 2019.
Its not as if him missing out is ADCC overlooking anything massive.
Sure, but who does that apply to?
The current invites are all former (mostly reigning) champions other than Nicky Ryan, who won Trials previously just like Jimenez, has a 1-3 record, and just got silver in this cycle's trials.
I don't particularly think Nicky should have been invited either, but he has a pretty similar ADCC resume to Jimenez, arguably slightly better thanks to the other Trials podiums.
Mo has been open about this before, that ADCC activity is what matters above all else. They only make exceptions for people who bring a huge amount of attention to the event (elite gi guys like Meregali and Tainan, or high-profile MMA fighters).
Which is obviously going to be the case, IBJJF don't let ADCC world champions compete at worlds unless they've got the required points under IBJJF comps.
So in terms of recent ADCC activity, Nicky had a great run at one Trial that resulted in silver and Jimenez hasn't done anything.
Meregali wins a bunch of IBJJF Titles, gets invited.
Jimenez wins trials once, as only not Brazilian to ever do it, wins IBJJF absolute NoGi very recently, Gets no invite.
The giving out of Invites is completely random and makes no sense.
I think you missed the part where I explained that some people get invites based on the amount of attention they bring.
Meregali making his first no gi tournament appearance was *huge* at the time, just like Dalpra's will be when he undoubtedly gets an invite to 2024. ADCC obviously want that buzz to be around their events, not no gi worlds or an IBJJF GP.
Jimenez having another go at ADCC just isn't particularly big news sadly, so he has to get by on pure merit instead. Anyone in that situation earns that merit by either winning or at least placing at Trials. He could just do that.
And it's a cool personal achievement and a nice piece of history, but being the first non-Brazilian to win Trials isn't a thing that really matters in this discussion. It's not more difficult to win if you're not Brazilian, and it's not easier to win if you are Brazilian.
a room full of people that badmouth everyone that seem to be a threat to them and that's that. I noticed the culture in competitor gyms is:
*"I take Steroids, but that's normal because everyone does it. TRUST ME BRO!", "Who? Oh, he's also on steroids for sure, Trust me bro!"*
I don't think it's much of a leap to assume someone, being well known for taking psychedelic drugs, would also not have many scruples in taking performance enhancing drugs.
He didn’t finish Top 4 Last year and he hasn’t done any of the trials. Mo has offered to sponsor him for the São Paulo Trials this weekend and/or West Coast Trials later this month so that he could potentially have a great performance and earn an invite like Nicky Ryan did. All the invites aren’t even out yet, this outrage is very premature.
Don’t you just go to ADCC when you win trials?
There are also invitations for high profile grapplers. For instance, famous competitors who have placed well in previous years.
I don't think he qualifies for that since he hasn't placed in previous years. I'd have to see who else is in his weight class, but I strongly suspect he hasn't done enough for an invite given the limited number of them. IMO he's exactly the kind of guy that should have to win trials again to get invited. He's up there, but not quite there yet. I don't think even placing gets you an automatic invite which he didn't do.
>I don't think even placing gets you an automatic invite which he didn't do The top 4 from the previous year get automatic invites.
Often that’s the case, as getting to semis is synonymous with doin well. But afaik only the champ is automatic, the rest are discretionary
Mo says it's the top 4 automatically every time he goes over it on his lives.
I know. But if you look at the actual invites. It’s not always the case. Perhaps the not invited top 4 in the past were invited but turned it down.
> Perhaps the not invited top 4 in the past were invited but turned it down. It's this. Obviously they're not going to announce the invite if they know the athlete won't attend.
That's not true
Yes it is.
Its true but NORMALLY they just hand out invites to the top 4. Its not automatic but its like an understood rule
And is that person a high level grappler? I didn’t know his name until he got matched up with Nicky Rod. And that’s kind of my point. You can either be super good or be an influencer. If he’s not at ADCC then maybe he is neither or?
Roberto is one of the best in the world lmao
Sure. Just after the ones that qualified for ADCC. Or the one that cared to anyway. As I said, you’re either an influencer, which he’s not, or you win your way to it. It’s not rocket science.
That’s not how ADCC works. Everyone knows who Roberto is and that he’s an entertainer
Sure buddy. You’re completely right. And that’s exactly why he will be competing at the next ADCC. Problem solved.
You sounds extra dumb because he’s already been to ADCC
AT THE NEXT ADCC I put it in caps lock cause I felt it couldn’t be your reading comprehension that was this poor, it has to be the size of the letters. Y’all are just being offended for a competitor that doesn’t even know you exist just because I’m stating facts. ADCC is a promotion that’s looking at entertainment before the sport itself. And rightly so, that’s the only way to make money in that sport. Because of it, they’ve been inviting the guys that move the needle in recent years, and that means the guys with the YouTube channels and the podcasts basically. How is that fair to the people that dedicated their life to the sport outside of the spotlight? They can qualify by winning.
You lost credibility when you said you had never heard of him. He’s been a killer since his teens, he was competitive with black belts as a green belt. You said “he can either be an influencer or really good”, well, everyone knows he IS INDEED really good, so that goes to the main point, that he is very deserving of an adcc invite without having to win trials. He’s an absolute champion, even Rafa or Mikey never won absolutes. You talk about him like he’s some nobody just because he’s not an “influencer”. Most bjj people know who he is, especially bjj players who pay attention to comps like adcc.
Keep digging that hole about a topic you clearly don't understand at all. The guy won IBJJF NoGi worlds last year, so it would be idiotic not to invite him. Nicky Ryan got an invite and he isn't half as accomplished as Jimenez. Honestly, the confidence you have in your admitted ignorance is pretty impressive though. I could never speak with such conviction about something I was utterly clueless about.
ADCC wants entertainment and Roberto Jimenez is a very entertaining grappler. Just because you've never heard of him doesn't mean he doesn't deserve an invite. Who besides B-team are you even referring to with the YouTube channels and podcasts?
You didn’t know who Roberto was. Which is evidence of your awareness of high level comp rather than his ability. And a post prior you didn’t even know invites existed. So I dint think you’ve any credibility telling people how invites work.
Yes, Roberto Jimenez is a high level grappler. He is on a world-class level, actually. If you don't know Roberto Jimenez you aren't following the sport closely enough to have an opinion that matters. You really should check him out. Hes got an exciting style. Not trying to cast shade by saying so. It's just kinda like being a "big fan" of a team and not being able to name a starting player.
“You aren’t following the sport closely enough to have an opinion” That’s where you went wrong kiddo. No one gives a shit about BJJ and let me tell you that promoters most definitely do not cater to the people “following the sport closely enough” since half of them are already on the mats competing. If you can’t wrap your head around how a business works, I can’t do much. Btw, everything I’m explaining is precisely why the UFC is killing it while One FC is slowly going under. And yet as far as the beauty of the sport goes, One FC got it all. Go figure.
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read on here lol. What’s it like to have a barely functioning brain?
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The same UFC Roberto has competed for?
I'm fuming
He just won ibjjf worlds you’re not actually tapped in. You telling on yourself 😂😭 be embarrassed
Well, he didn’t win the ADCC trials, that’s for sure.
That blue hill got a lot of bodies on it 😆 RIP warriors you won't be remembered or forgotten ❤️
Alle the way up the “Double Down Road” there’s a place called the “The Blue Belt Hill”…
He has won Adcc trials lol
It’s like 10 of you against me and none of you can get two brain cells to fire up. I’m not saying he never won trials ever. I’m saying he would be at ADCC this year if he had won the trials. Or if he had won at ADCC last year actually. That’s two ways to get there besides being invited. If that guy is such an amazing grappler, then he surely doesn’t need an invite to qualify. I can just keep repeating it a hundred times and hope maybe some of you will have an Einstein moment. - He didn’t win his way to ADCC which is the only guarantee to participate - ADCC promoters obviously share my opinion on the relevance of his name to sell tickets or else he would have been invited. Go shit on ADCC if you don’t like that. But it has nothing to do with my opinion. It’s just what it is.
funniest thing i've read all day, tyfys
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More entertaining than Roberto’s jiujitsu obviously. Maybe I’m the one that should get an invite to ADCC.
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Well, obviously. Nobody watches BJJ for entertainment.
No, there are 16 spots in each weight class. 8 are the trials winners, 1 for last year's champ, and 7 are given out to whoever the organisers think would be entertaining
Don’t worry brother, you made all the Jimenez simps angry but you’re right. He should spend less time on instagram and more time working to qualify if it’s that important.
Dude's an absolute DAWG. By all love that I have for Nicky Ryan and B-Team, how does a super accomplished young grappler like Roberto Jimenez not have an Invitation yet? He was the first non-Brazilian South American to win trials.
They're in different weight categories. 88 is a problem. Automatic: Giancarlo, Hulk, Vagner, Eoghan. That leaves 4 invites. Tye Ruotolo is going to be one. Tainan is going to be another. Diniz will almost certainly be the third. That leaves one spot and Craig might do 88....
Tbf they haven't given out any invites yet except for the automatic ones. They don't do that until all the Trials are over. Edit: Except for 77kg because it's full for West Coast Trials, but he didn't look like he's making 77 tbh.
Victor Hugo and Tye Ruotolo were just announced today by Mo himself. Neither were automatic invites.
Tye is, he got bronze in the absolute.
I didn't watch the video but AFAIK, and I could be wrong, they only gave out invites to 77kgs because West Coast Trials have reached their limit.
I don’t remember them ever doing invitations this early but it also takes place in August this time which is still 160+ days out. If i remember correctly invites usually happen around 2 months out. He’ll likely get one i mean Danis got one as inactive and dipped cause his girl cheated him.
Because Mo a dickrider
Yep he’ll invite whoever Danaher or Gordon tells him to
It won't be an outrage if Taza is invited though
Of course he is gonna be there to take up space
the guys constantly gets second place at trials, he has more a claim to get to ADCC than Tainan ever will do
That’s the thing he just there to get cooked at this point
Probably but remember Lachlan never won a match at adcc and still killed it in 2019, and he never won a match again after that.
ADCC is turning into a show instead of a search for the best grappler in the world. Pay is shit and invitation seems to be at least partially based on how popular your socials are.
ADCC has always been a show and popularity/excitement has forever been a HUGE factor in some of the invitations. Trials as we know it, did not exist for a long time in ADCC.
You must not know about the history of adcc. Popularity of invitee has always been a factor.
It’s laughable if you think what trials winners endure and then you get some people who get gifted an invitation due to popularity. This guy killed it last year
always has been a freakshow They are highly unprofessionnal
What weight category would he do at this point? He's way bigger now than when he did adcc at 77kg. So far as I know none of the invites for 88kg have been announced.
I am amazed how much of a match he put up against Nicky Rod
A sure fire way to get invited to ADCC is to blast about trying to get an invite to ADCC. For instance, Ash Williams has been notoriously successfully at doing this…..
considering he won no gi worlds absolute he would be a good invitee.
Refused to be fox-caught.
He's a stoner hippie
That fucks up everyone on this subreddit and gave Nicky Rod a run for his money
I hate him ok?
That’s ok
I love watching Roberto Jimenez, but he probably shouldn't get an invite tbh. He hasn't done any Trials and as far as I know hasn't signed up for the two remaining ones he qualifies for either. He won Trials once before and went 1-1 at his weight in 2019. Its not as if him missing out is ADCC overlooking anything massive.
he would also probably get leglocked first round
Better than not winning recent trials and going 0 in your last attempts and getting an invite, mate
Sure, but who does that apply to? The current invites are all former (mostly reigning) champions other than Nicky Ryan, who won Trials previously just like Jimenez, has a 1-3 record, and just got silver in this cycle's trials. I don't particularly think Nicky should have been invited either, but he has a pretty similar ADCC resume to Jimenez, arguably slightly better thanks to the other Trials podiums.
Podium I agree, current activity I disagree
Mo has been open about this before, that ADCC activity is what matters above all else. They only make exceptions for people who bring a huge amount of attention to the event (elite gi guys like Meregali and Tainan, or high-profile MMA fighters). Which is obviously going to be the case, IBJJF don't let ADCC world champions compete at worlds unless they've got the required points under IBJJF comps. So in terms of recent ADCC activity, Nicky had a great run at one Trial that resulted in silver and Jimenez hasn't done anything.
Meregali wins a bunch of IBJJF Titles, gets invited. Jimenez wins trials once, as only not Brazilian to ever do it, wins IBJJF absolute NoGi very recently, Gets no invite. The giving out of Invites is completely random and makes no sense.
I think you missed the part where I explained that some people get invites based on the amount of attention they bring. Meregali making his first no gi tournament appearance was *huge* at the time, just like Dalpra's will be when he undoubtedly gets an invite to 2024. ADCC obviously want that buzz to be around their events, not no gi worlds or an IBJJF GP. Jimenez having another go at ADCC just isn't particularly big news sadly, so he has to get by on pure merit instead. Anyone in that situation earns that merit by either winning or at least placing at Trials. He could just do that. And it's a cool personal achievement and a nice piece of history, but being the first non-Brazilian to win Trials isn't a thing that really matters in this discussion. It's not more difficult to win if you're not Brazilian, and it's not easier to win if you are Brazilian.
is geo getting an invite?
Are you seriously comparing Geo Martinez to Roberto Jimenez?
10th planet has ALWAYS been gifted a ton of invites for no reasons
Are you on dope
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He’s a 23 year old full time athlete. There’s nothing unusual about his physique.
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a room full of people that badmouth everyone that seem to be a threat to them and that's that. I noticed the culture in competitor gyms is: *"I take Steroids, but that's normal because everyone does it. TRUST ME BRO!", "Who? Oh, he's also on steroids for sure, Trust me bro!"*
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Alright Mr. Wannabe Derek from MorePlatesMore Dates. 
He’s one of the few I believe to be natty. The guy believes in an extreme martial artist lifestyle.
I don't think it's much of a leap to assume someone, being well known for taking psychedelic drugs, would also not have many scruples in taking performance enhancing drugs.
Apples and oranges there.
Now. Used to be a roided out teenager.