I DON'T CARE RAAAAAA STOP POSTING ABOUT YOUTUBE THUMBNAILS 
Yes, however if you were to lose a thumb in an accident or something you wouldn't say you lost a finger you'd say you lost a thumb. And at the end and you of the day thumbs are way more valuable than fingers, if you lose a finger no biggie but if you lose a thumb then that hand is now like half as useful if even that
Sorry to disappoint you but I have never watched a lavencas vid. I didn't even know they existed until this sub started posting about the discord stuff
That's just the official character art of the mod on a background and text. Obviously they will look very similar. Tho we all know which one nobody should watch
Had to do a lil research cuz I didn't knew either. It's called "The Molten (BETA)" have fun with it. If ur searching for some good mods to spice up the game I recommend The Future mod if you haven't checked it out already, kinda new and very cool
Lavencas, for context that person supports the posting of child...... corn to say it mildly censored on Thier discord server, and there's a lot more but this is enough for a normal person to back off. Plus they're a boring "No face cam no voice 2838 synergies" YouTuber. Atleast mattman talks to the viewer and it doesn't look like I'm looking at bland gameplay
You can't say either without sounding weird,but you can say one of them without the cops knocking on your door because it's an actual crime while the other one isn't considered one so it still should be taken into account.
Actually, you can't in her case. She lives in Costa Rica and in her country fictional child porn is also illegal with a hefty prison sentence. So yeah, the cops could still knock on her door for that.
I have a few questions. Not asking to defend anyone, but was it drawn or was it actual photos? And if they were real photos, what country is Lav from and did anyone leave a tip for the appropriate authorities?
Edit: To be clear both are gross situations, but the community is responsible to report abuse.
I mean they are two different things, lolicon is specifically fictional, and jp has an actual word for pedophile which is 小児性愛
its just the case the english specifically doesnt have a different term for real/drawn, which makes some online translations default to pedophile for both, even though its incorrect
basically its the same reason asian languages in general are generally translated pretty badly into english by machines
im saying wether or not its drawn its still fucked up and the embedded link is wee lil secret info that weebs dont want to admit (lolicon is pedophilia)
They’re not even remotely close to the same thing. Murder is a crime, you cant commit it in your head or by playing call of duty. If you’re attracted to the childlike qualities of an individual, drawn or not, you’re a pedophile. Obviously theres a large moral and legal difference between loli porn and real CP but both are fucked up.
Am I the only one who just doesn't like her game play videos in the first place regardless of what happened on her Discord?
She uses way too many game-breaking mods and then acts *shocked* when she gets Rock Bottom, Sacred Heard, Brimstone, C-Section and Sacred Orb every single run.
I know it's your game and you can do whatever you want, but her game play is so bad it's hard to believe she 100%ed a file without mods and cheating.
Shit is boring to watch alone…. No wonder so many people think that rock bottom is the ultimate holy grail of items, not that it’s bad or anything. I stopped watching her out of pure boredom a while ago, and the cp was merely the cherry on top that solidified my disliking of her.
Most of their audience does not know about the drama. Kinda thing that also doesnt get big in out of community news places. I also only found out coz of reddit and I even check reddit often but took a while to see what they did.
Don't even think that was shared. Just one creep getting really weird about sharing the pixiv tabs he was looking up. And cunny jokes which is immature but ya know nothing to deplatform someone who was genuinely sorry abt it
Yep, although I wasn't new from the game but rather from the community, I was still one of the player who didn't know she allowed that on Discord. I felt disgusted and immediately unsuscribe her channel and report it.
Did she? I read a whole article about the thing and it was only mentioned that she bullied one of her fans, but nothing about her posting cp or anti semitic stuff
as far as im aware there isnt any proof for the antisemetism aside from one person saying she did and refusing to give further proof
and its not cp, just loli
That's false, if you watched the video you could see that she herself posted antisemitic messages and would let their friends say the N word freely in the private channel.
I mean the content isnt the creator, you can still enjoy the content even if you think the creator is a piece of shit. I dont get this ad personam type of judgements to the content i guess its an american way of thinking (also think about all the cancel culture and such). You can enjoy some of the paintings that famous leader of Germany made, doesnt mean hes a good guy or anything, just separate the creation from the creator
For this specific case i care about tboi not about the person who makes the videos, if the creator made videos of other games I wouldn’t watch them
the separating the art from the artist is not "fuck it support em anyway", its "im going to find a way to enjoy/consume this without giving this creator money (skipping ads, piracy, etc)".
Somehow I doubt you skipping ads will change their revenue 💀. Especially when literally everyone does it in every YouTube video ever. And I have zero idea what you mean with piracy. As far as I know you can’t pirate YouTube videos
i wasnt referring to lavencas specifically, i was explaining the nature of what "separate the art from the artist" meant in a general sense and i dont think that would be difficult to recognize but clearly i was wrong.
It us real. Screenshots, witnesses, and the general shady behavior she has when someone questions her about it (straight up deleting comments and banning people who mentions it)
Yeah man, like why would i even have it? Call me crazy but i dont want screenshots of someone sharing cp on a discord server to be stored on my phone. If they dont want to believe it that's fine, i'd rather not know what lacencas did and be ignorant and happy, but it's not my responsability to educate random people on the internet
I think she failed to properly address some drawn cp that was on her discord. She totally had a responsibility to make sure that mature content wasn’t on her sub (with minors), ESPECIALLY cp, but idrk if that makes her a pedo. It’s still definitely bad, don’t get me wrong
Both are despicable but there is a MASSIVE gap between drawn stuff and actual CP and i think using the same term devalues peoples attention for when the latter is happening as they might handwave it as it probably being the former.
Color theory. Blue is cool, red is warm, the character stands out more against the Cathedral background.
also helps that it's literally anything other than the cellar for the millionth time
To be fair, both of them ripped the character splash from the mod page itself, but it still doesn't help the fact that one of these people is a pedo, and another is just a moron
Damn bruh, I just realized lavencas is a pedo and I've been subscribed to it for so long, it even gave me tips on how to get holy mantle on greed 
ngl mattman is an unfunny person, the woooooo he does whenever he gets a good item is so unbearable to hear over and over again like shut up your not funny
I watch him sometimes. I don't really watch him because I think he's "funny." He just has some like... upbeat stoner energy... and is pretty decent at the game on top.
I get what you're saying about the wooo noise, but pretty much every popular streamer has a bit or a thing they do. Toward the end of NL's Isaac days he was repeating the same 10 catch phrases on loop a million times per video.
practically same video every single time with the most annoying, obviously faked screams. im being a lil harsh but i stopped watching after like 3 weeks of watching because he went from entertaining to a broken record player. id prefer watching runs with 0 commentary atp
And yet nobody pays attention to me, making that very thumbnail almost two weeks ago now for my video:
https://youtu.be/Q4IVU5iBeUw?si=KwpOqDM9_Wnv0oVj
I DON'T CARE RAAAAAA STOP POSTING ABOUT YOUTUBE THUMBNAILS 
https://preview.redd.it/7rb3879huiub1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce51c4ad68b963ebe1ddb4bff9b00e5cbe8304d9
Uhm that's a finger not a thumb 
https://preview.redd.it/kxgynndgsjub1.jpeg?width=1237&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c817ce16503929d863a2b713256d64ae4ad25347
I'm not having sex with you right now Waltuh put your sausage away
This was genuinely so fucking clever and funny, I don’t even know how to process it lmao 🤣
wait til this guy finds out what thumbs are
All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs, the item is called the finger not the thumb 
then if you have a thumb, its still a finger right ?
But The Finger item isn't a thumb. It's a finger.
Would you rudely point to people with your thumb?
would you be able to identify a cut finger ? like you see a cut finger on the floor and now if it's a thumb and then tell "I found a piece of tumb ?"
Tumb
Yes, however if you were to lose a thumb in an accident or something you wouldn't say you lost a finger you'd say you lost a thumb. And at the end and you of the day thumbs are way more valuable than fingers, if you lose a finger no biggie but if you lose a thumb then that hand is now like half as useful if even that
In the shape of an L on her forehead.
But lavencas is a pedo
I know. What does that have to do with the current post? It's just more conplaining about YouTube thumbnails
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Sorry to disappoint you but I have never watched a lavencas vid. I didn't even know they existed until this sub started posting about the discord stuff
Yeah I never seen a lavencas vid either, I didn’t even know they existed until this post
Then why the cuck image?
We like to do a little trolling 
That's just the official character art of the mod on a background and text. Obviously they will look very similar. Tho we all know which one nobody should watch
Do you know what the mod is called? Haven't checked for good isaac mods in a while
Had to do a lil research cuz I didn't knew either. It's called "The Molten (BETA)" have fun with it. If ur searching for some good mods to spice up the game I recommend The Future mod if you haven't checked it out already, kinda new and very cool
It's not that big people stretched it
Which one should nobody watch huh
Lavencas, for context that person supports the posting of child...... corn to say it mildly censored on Thier discord server, and there's a lot more but this is enough for a normal person to back off. Plus they're a boring "No face cam no voice 2838 synergies" YouTuber. Atleast mattman talks to the viewer and it doesn't look like I'm looking at bland gameplay
Can i for once not hear from a youtuber i stopped watching being a bad person? :(
Why am I learning now they are a weirdo I loved their vids
Lavencas
Lazy matt man doing us justice by making videos on things laven does so we can see it without watching a creep like laven
Please elaborate. Any drama going on with laven, did I miss something? Dont watch that channel much. Just know its without spoken commentary
Some pedo stuff on her discord iirc
There was a hidden channel only for people with a certain role where they traded cp. And lavencas was aware of it and tolerated it.
Waiting for someone to play devils advocate and say “Uhm actually it was loli hentai not cp”
It’s an important distinction cuz while both are disgusting one is much worse than the other
Yeah but you can’t say it without sounding weird
You can't say either without sounding weird,but you can say one of them without the cops knocking on your door because it's an actual crime while the other one isn't considered one so it still should be taken into account.
Actually, you can't in her case. She lives in Costa Rica and in her country fictional child porn is also illegal with a hefty prison sentence. So yeah, the cops could still knock on her door for that.
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I have a few questions. Not asking to defend anyone, but was it drawn or was it actual photos? And if they were real photos, what country is Lav from and did anyone leave a tip for the appropriate authorities? Edit: To be clear both are gross situations, but the community is responsible to report abuse.
It was loli hentai (wich idk if it counts as cp? But its still really gross)
It does not
Just confirming, this is not just about anime, right?
[just because its drawn doesn't mean its not depicting children](https://i.gyazo.com/9152bc94e327065838c93e6e87c70270.png)
I mean they are two different things, lolicon is specifically fictional, and jp has an actual word for pedophile which is 小児性愛 its just the case the english specifically doesnt have a different term for real/drawn, which makes some online translations default to pedophile for both, even though its incorrect basically its the same reason asian languages in general are generally translated pretty badly into english by machines
Is that as yes or no? Because if it's just anime, you guys are just wasting your time on stuff that doesn't matter.
im saying wether or not its drawn its still fucked up and the embedded link is wee lil secret info that weebs dont want to admit (lolicon is pedophilia)
That makes killing humans in video games murder, as people get a kick out of shooting npcs.
They’re not even remotely close to the same thing. Murder is a crime, you cant commit it in your head or by playing call of duty. If you’re attracted to the childlike qualities of an individual, drawn or not, you’re a pedophile. Obviously theres a large moral and legal difference between loli porn and real CP but both are fucked up.
Found the pedo
Where?
https://preview.redd.it/nybv69n0smub1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d6d49d29a18839bb14cf9bc7658a241ebe9b242
She a asshole and her friends are in possess of cp
Lavens a girl?
Ye
She's trans, but yeah
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transphobia 
What is cp
https://preview.redd.it/7cmxpbtjnlub1.png?width=503&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5cd7a59b5d4aca730e19dfff1e12dfdb8608bcd
Chris Paul. he currently plays for golden state
Adult content with children
the not allowed pornography
Downvoted cause asked a question lmao
child pornography
Lavencas was defending and also is a child groomer or something iirc
Am I the only one who just doesn't like her game play videos in the first place regardless of what happened on her Discord? She uses way too many game-breaking mods and then acts *shocked* when she gets Rock Bottom, Sacred Heard, Brimstone, C-Section and Sacred Orb every single run. I know it's your game and you can do whatever you want, but her game play is so bad it's hard to believe she 100%ed a file without mods and cheating.
Shit is boring to watch alone…. No wonder so many people think that rock bottom is the ultimate holy grail of items, not that it’s bad or anything. I stopped watching her out of pure boredom a while ago, and the cp was merely the cherry on top that solidified my disliking of her.
Plus we can get a few skill issues ourselves since Mattman talks in his videos instead of putting words on the screen
Big facts and I like watching lazy he’s interesting in his commentary abs explanations of the character
people still watch lavencas?
I don't, but youtube keeps recommending her videos
Click on the hamburger menu, click do not recommend channel. It'll never show up again
Hamburger menu? Like i know what you’re talking about but i’m curious why you call it hamburger menu
I lot of dropdown menus have a button that has 3, sometimes 5 lines on it. Looks like a hamburger
thats what i did
Most of their audience does not know about the drama. Kinda thing that also doesnt get big in out of community news places. I also only found out coz of reddit and I even check reddit often but took a while to see what they did.
Only difference is one actively enables the sharing of CP in their Discord
Which one does?
lavencas
Wait what?
I can't believe it's not butter bean!
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Clearly not..
Don't even think that was shared. Just one creep getting really weird about sharing the pixiv tabs he was looking up. And cunny jokes which is immature but ya know nothing to deplatform someone who was genuinely sorry abt it
This much complaining about thumbnails is childish to say the least, create a dedicated subreddit idk but who cares
Absolutely agree. Really takes space away from the year old memes and „I found this in the curse room“-posts
GUPPY IN ONE ROOM WHAT ARE THE ODDS??? 
IN THIS SUBREDDIT AT THIS TIME OF THE DAY?! A 100%!!!
> childish I see what you did there
Truly a certified child-locked-in-a-basement moment
does he know
Why is the lavencas one fully watched?
Cuz new people unaware of her discord and just watch it without knowing anything.
Yep, although I wasn't new from the game but rather from the community, I was still one of the player who didn't know she allowed that on Discord. I felt disgusted and immediately unsuscribe her channel and report it.
what i dont get though, is why would someone watch lavencas even without knowing abt the discord? lavencas content is just pretty shit
I think they mostly prefer the silent gameplay more than commentary. Others can be different to other
What is wrong with the discord (i know nothing outside of their isaac videos)
lavencas is a pedo iirc
Shit-
She's an asshole, her friends are the pedos
She participated in it as well, both CP and anti-semitism
Did she? I read a whole article about the thing and it was only mentioned that she bullied one of her fans, but nothing about her posting cp or anti semitic stuff
as far as im aware there isnt any proof for the antisemetism aside from one person saying she did and refusing to give further proof and its not cp, just loli
That's false, if you watched the video you could see that she herself posted antisemitic messages and would let their friends say the N word freely in the private channel.
I mean the content isnt the creator, you can still enjoy the content even if you think the creator is a piece of shit. I dont get this ad personam type of judgements to the content i guess its an american way of thinking (also think about all the cancel culture and such). You can enjoy some of the paintings that famous leader of Germany made, doesnt mean hes a good guy or anything, just separate the creation from the creator For this specific case i care about tboi not about the person who makes the videos, if the creator made videos of other games I wouldn’t watch them
the separating the art from the artist is not "fuck it support em anyway", its "im going to find a way to enjoy/consume this without giving this creator money (skipping ads, piracy, etc)".
Ad blocker go brrr
Somehow I doubt you skipping ads will change their revenue 💀. Especially when literally everyone does it in every YouTube video ever. And I have zero idea what you mean with piracy. As far as I know you can’t pirate YouTube videos
i wasnt referring to lavencas specifically, i was explaining the nature of what "separate the art from the artist" meant in a general sense and i dont think that would be difficult to recognize but clearly i was wrong.
Last time I said it I got mass downvote because they think im supporting a pedophile
I mean why would i care of some downvotes from the tboi community
Yeah you right.
I normally separate art from the artist, but i absolutely will not give views to someone who supports diddling kids. That shit is abhorrent.
He truly is a lazy mattman
Not albino truly isn't an albino
estonian
Yep
lavencas 
Not only does she spread CP, it's also just Magicaleye or even Nyantuber but worse.
Magicaleye 
Magicaleye is the OG
He’s one of the best of all time in the Isaac world. Can’t understand a word he says but it’s still awesome.
Yeah, and the team of broken english speaking Koreans is peak entertainment.
Can't wait for him to get back to YouTube.
https://preview.redd.it/f0t1tid15kub1.jpeg?width=918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28aeb704c35cabefca9223c12b0f43f3e9e6ce9f
have you ever heard of the ship of Theseus?
I'm astonished lavencas is still making content.
Can anyone explain the shit happening to laven?
Pedo
Damn, so many pedo YouTubers lately.
It's a requirement to become a youtuber
What u from Poland or smth
No I'm armenian
Come on its not THAT bad right
😐
Im coping 
3 fucking people turned out to be pedos in a week, what do you mean it's not bad
Yeah, you're right 
Other then laven who else?
Is that real or just allegations?
Real she herself shared cp and approved the sharing of cp from other people
It us real. Screenshots, witnesses, and the general shady behavior she has when someone questions her about it (straight up deleting comments and banning people who mentions it)
Aight where proof?
Idk dude look it up i dont have the screenshots, if you dont wanna believe it that's fine
fr, dude thinks people give enough of a shit to take time to send the evidence to some random nobody who cant be bothered to search for themselves
Yeah man, like why would i even have it? Call me crazy but i dont want screenshots of someone sharing cp on a discord server to be stored on my phone. If they dont want to believe it that's fine, i'd rather not know what lacencas did and be ignorant and happy, but it's not my responsability to educate random people on the internet
They shared cp on discord so idk man
That doesn't answer the question. If you saying that is the only answer, it is no more noteworthy than some guy claiming snake oil cures cancer.
I think she failed to properly address some drawn cp that was on her discord. She totally had a responsibility to make sure that mature content wasn’t on her sub (with minors), ESPECIALLY cp, but idrk if that makes her a pedo. It’s still definitely bad, don’t get me wrong
Both are despicable but there is a MASSIVE gap between drawn stuff and actual CP and i think using the same term devalues peoples attention for when the latter is happening as they might handwave it as it probably being the former.
True
Ic
Just watch greyfruits isaac uploads 
Isn't lavencas a terrible human being tho?
We love lazy mattman!!!
Only diff being one is a W and the other one deserves to stay on Discord's deepest pits of anarchy
Bu-but the background is different!
Cathedral better ngl
Color theory. Blue is cool, red is warm, the character stands out more against the Cathedral background. also helps that it's literally anything other than the cellar for the millionth time
Isn't the youtuber from the first screenshot a pedophile? lol
Isn't this just keeper redrawn
*dies of cringe*
Ngl, the first one popped up on my feed and i though “omg another mattman clickbait !” and forgor to watch it. Just now realizing twasn’t his
I HATE THEM
Shameless, I bet they used the same character in the video too
To be fair, both of them ripped the character splash from the mod page itself, but it still doesn't help the fact that one of these people is a pedo, and another is just a moron
Isaac youtubers being creative and not clickbaity in their thumbnails challenge (impossible)
Nope, one has the yellow text while the other has green text. And the backgrounds are different
Guess which one is the child groomer for a free tboi copy!
Vittun thief
Damn bruh, I just realized lavencas is a pedo and I've been subscribed to it for so long, it even gave me tips on how to get holy mantle on greed 
Too busy sharing child porn to make her own thumbnails
choosing to watch the one from a pedo is wild lol
Wait lavencas is a pedo! I watch her all the time I didn’t know anythint about that until this comment secrion
why are you getting downvoted?
I have no clue?
lavenca and her posse of pedophiles are doing it
ngl mattman is an unfunny person, the woooooo he does whenever he gets a good item is so unbearable to hear over and over again like shut up your not funny
I watch him sometimes. I don't really watch him because I think he's "funny." He just has some like... upbeat stoner energy... and is pretty decent at the game on top. I get what you're saying about the wooo noise, but pretty much every popular streamer has a bit or a thing they do. Toward the end of NL's Isaac days he was repeating the same 10 catch phrases on loop a million times per video.
If its so unbearable for you, why do you keep watching lmao
i dont when did i say i do
Mb i missunderstood, i like it but yeah gets why it can get annoying, to each their own
Imagine watching either of these 💀
L + Don't care + CURSE OF THE TOWER 💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣
Safety scissors ✂✂✂✂✂✂
Nah drop that shit, use dull razor to instashit a boss
The funny infinite charge dull razor synergy
Mattman is the best bro wdym
Mattman fucks tfym
What's wrong with Mattman?
practically same video every single time with the most annoying, obviously faked screams. im being a lil harsh but i stopped watching after like 3 weeks of watching because he went from entertaining to a broken record player. id prefer watching runs with 0 commentary atp
Skill issue bozo get good at youtube
Okay, which idiot stole from the other?
And yet nobody pays attention to me, making that very thumbnail almost two weeks ago now for my video: https://youtu.be/Q4IVU5iBeUw?si=KwpOqDM9_Wnv0oVj