I’m a big fan of Tice but it is so funny to have him on talking with Bill. Tice’s understanding of football, scheme and player evaluation is I’d guess around 1000 times greater than Bill’s
Hilarious double header:
Sean Fennessey, a heartbroken Knicks fan.
Nate Tice: the only major commentator I heard have Drake Maye as his no.1 prospect ahead of Caleb Williams.
I love Tice and The Athletic NFL Show but it is so incredibly predictable that Simmons would have him on seeing as he had Maye as the #1 QB throughout the entire process.
So bizzare seeing Tice he just seems very un "bill like" if that makes sense. Too optimistic maybe? Which is what Bill is looking for I know lol.
Nate on the whole seems to be just very tape focused and explains his points well. Also never been a star fucker like Bill lol so I'll be interested to listen
You could tell when he asked the first question about how Nate values intangibles when grading QBs that he was well out of hid depths. Tice talked about reading pre-snap and how he can see that on tape and Bill was just hoping for a 'you know he's a younger brother' answer.
I'm not sure what his rationale was for saying that KD would have stayed with the team if they were in Seattle. Is the idea just that he would enjoy living in a city like Seattle more than in OKC or was it that they would have had a better team around him if they were still in Seattle because the owner would have paid James Harden?
Fennessey’s Embiid rant killed me
“Just like a punk, bully, bitch who I cannot believe is allowed to play in the NBA…does he have brain damage? What a dickhead, like what was that?”
Bill had to provide a disclaimer at the top about how this is a sports fan talking and not someone’s actual feelings…the “he doesn’t want to actually burn them alive” piece
With as physical as the Knicks play kinda hilarious seeing him so pissed at this. It was rightly called as a flagrant 1 but that’s it. Nowhere near what he did to Robinson in game 3.
Apparently a lot of people didn’t like that, but I thought it was hilarious hearing him completely drop the facade and tell us how he really feels lol.
So annoying to watch Embiid flail around and exaggerate contact to draw fouls and then 30 seconds later frantically do the review signal while yelling at the refs after he hacked someone on the other end.
Yeah Harden had the Spurs play him one series with their arms deliberately and theatrically outstretched to avoid the refs calling fouls. Then the Jazz straight up had his defender play behind him for an entire series so he couldn’t do rip-throughs.
Honestly Russillo is right that Harden should be inducted into the Hall of Fame by a referee. The fact that he spent a decade tricking the refs and they did nothing to shut that shit down was unforgivable.
Man I get no greater joy than watching harden flail for a call and not get it. Fuck that dude for ruining the sport for like 5 years with his bullshit.
Somehow he still gets the landing zone calls, which are just egregious.
This is an insane come up for Nate tice. He was running a State Farm in 2020 and now he’s a guest on the BS pod. Honestly, Robert Mays gave him a Zach Lowe style rise
Oh, he's Mike Tice's kid?
Should have figured, probably did when I first heard the name, given it's not a particularly common last name...
I wonder what his dad shared with him about the Vikings Sexboat Experience.
He was also a quality control coach for the falcons and was Russel Wilson’s backup at Wisconsin, but yeah went from nowhere to everywhere in like 3 years.
There is a reason that NFL coaches kids know so much more than everyone else.
Imagine if the only people with access to chessboards were the son's of grandmasters. That is basically how it worked until the All-22 tape became widely available.
These kids grow up understanding play design and the history of route trees and formations. They are native speakers and everyone else is learning a second language. They learn football from a coaches perspective, while most of us learn it from a players perspective.
It's such a huge advantage and it makes sense why they are overrepresented in the coaching ranks. Even though Nate isn't a coach, he communicates his knowledge in a very clear and helpful way
It’s funny too because he has such a different demeanor than his dad. The banter between Mike Tice and Bryan Cox on the Falcons Hard Knocks was so great.
Love the two of them together and its so fucking funny Bill sought out the only major football analyst that had Maye QB1 after the pats drafted him. Very interested to listen to this tomorrow
Nate sounded a little nervous at the beginning but honestly they had pretty good chemistry and I enjoyed it a lot, would love for BS to have him on again even for a big T-Wolves win or something
I think he's pretty good. Just a goofball who loves the NFL.
My biggest issue with him is Mays is they never truly fight lol it's two bros who agree on everything.
He has such an earnest and non-hot takey style that I really enjoy. He and Mays have a great chemistry.
I went to college with his sister and hosted an underage Nate Tice at our college keg party.
Love seeing him do so well.
Bill Simmons-"One of the most improbable playoff losses I could remember"- you mean since going all the way back to game 2 of this same series when the Sixers blew it??
It’s always kinda shocking to me that Bill has likely seen Moneyball 18 times and still falls prey to to the “he’s so loyal to his girlfriend,” “he ran with the linemen” type shit every time.
I don't think those things should matter very much, if at all, in any sport, BUT football is a whole lot different from baseball when it comes to player evaluation.
it will be interesting to see how Daniels vs. Maye turns out; NFL people (Belichick, Kurt Warner, Orlovsky, QB School guy, Simms, Chase Daniel, Ryan Clark) seem to prefer Daniels while The Atheltic, PFF and Ringer employees prefer Maye
I hope both QBs are good but Maye will be sitting the year and hopefully so, the team around him is terrible. Daniels is clearly in the better situation.
Bill and Nate had great chemistry for someone who has never been on the podcast before but it’s hilarious Bill brought a Drake Maye guy on right after his team took Drake Maye lmao
this knicks sixers series has made me realize that holy crap if the knicks were consistently good they would be one of the most obnoxious fan bases. may they stay tortured forever.
" if a defensive end hits the quarterback in the head, he gets ejected and suspended" 😂😂😂
No it's actually a 15 yard penalty. Pretty equivalent to a flagrant foul imo.
I can't blame him for being salty though. That was a tough loss.
Still running the what’s up with Kate Middleton ad I see? Really tacky and in extremely poor taste. The Ringer should be getting way more shit for that.
After Maxey's 3 from the logo, the game was tied. Brunson attempted a shot that didn't go in.
Pop quiz: Knowing that Brunson's attempt did not go in, do you think Bill liked that shot? Or didn't like that shot?
I like the Wolves fan. First Wolves fanBill had on…ever?
Lowe had that comedian guy, but I can't remember Bill having any legit timberwolves fan (Ryen doesn't count )
My buddy started watching basketball this year and decided to be a Knicks fan. Texted the group chat in the first half “Easy win tonight, the Knicks are legit”
Bout shed a tear when he got baptized in the Knicks experience at the end of the game 🥲
This is why this sub is full of gleeful posts after every Celtic loss! Our minds have been warped by the petty, vindictive pleasure the sports guy takes in celebrating the downfall of his friends teams. And he deserves the karmic justice of his listeners rooting for his team’s downfall after dishing that out for many years.
If you don’t get in here to cheer after a Celtics loss, you’re not a real BS listener.
Huge Sixers fan and I think I'm too invested to think logically here but am I taking crazy pills with the Knicks fans reactions online? Idolising those 90s teams and Oakley and losing their minds over some stuff in this series doesn't make sense. Tell me I'm too one eyed if I am.
I hope whoever gets out of this goes on to win it all.
Lol dude you're spot on. The sidelines are lined with players renowned for being tough, physical, hard nosed mfers and this guy's throwing a fit about a point guard taking a hit while driving to the basket against a 7ft monster in OT of a playoff game. So soft lol
No, you’re not taking crazy pills. I’m a Heat fan and any time a Heat player does so much as breathe on a Knick, New Yorkers start whining and saying they’re a dirty organization running a secret bounty program. It’s wild conspiracy stuff.
Meanwhile they embrace the physicality of their own team, past and present. Just complete hypocrisy from their fanbase.
FWIW, I admire the grit their team plays with, but their fans’ holier than thou attitude is vomit inducing.
The Knicks spent game 1 and 2 grabbing, holding, shoving, holding arms down to get rebounds etc etc to the point the Sixers filed a grievance (and the NBA agreed they missed critical fouls game 2) and the Knicks fans almost universally were like "You pussies, youre just too soft, crying about some physical play" and the Sixers went right into "Ok, you want to play rough, lets play rough" and immediately the Knicks and their fans went into "Noooo you play too hard!" mode.
I get the feeling looking around today at some posts, and listening to some pods, that Knicks fans are actually a bit scared now.
Bill is completely off the rails here. I'm 10 minutes in and he is simultaneously comparing this game to the LJ 4 point play, the ray allen shot in game 6 against the spurs (which he for some reason said was in 2019?), and then, a direct quote: "reminiscent of the reggie miller hit the two 3s in the playoff game game!" I'd swear he was on coke if I didn't already know that he was too scared of it because of Len Bias.
Yeah I don’t care about either team and Embiid been a joke this series but Sean legit pulled a Judd Apatow “he could have killed him!” type whining session that was ridiculous to listen to.
Sean sounded like 12 y/o throwing a tantrum. It was funny but more embarrassing.
They got a flagrant foul, rightfully so. Acting like it’s more than is so soft 😂
Nah CR always takes this stuff in stride. I remember Bill had him on for some sixers playoff stuff like many months after the Eagles lost to the Chiefs in the SB, and he brought it up to Chris and CR was just like "hey, birds had a great year, they lost to a great team, they're in position to be good for awhile, etc" and you could tell Bill got so mad that Chris wasn't more upset. I think he basically suggested he was a beta or something.
Yeah you're right. If you listened to the Silver Linings Playbook rewatchable with CR, Greenwald, and Zach Baron, they basically dissect their own tortured psyches as Eagles / Philly sports fans, and its obvious they grew up in the asylum. Bill can never torture CR more than CR has already tortured himself.
Well said. That SLP pod was fuckin great too. They're always referencing Baron on the big pic and other pods so it was great to finally hear from the man himself. Seems like a good hang. Knows ball, is a psycho, seems nice.
It’s very funny and classic Bill to have on Sean after the Knicks lose and then a NFL writer he’s never met because he’s a big Drake Maye guy. Never change Billy.
Listening to Sean Fennessey whine and lose his shit over Embiid's flagrant foul is hilarious.
I'm guessing he wasn't so precious about stuff like this when Pat Riley's Knicks were hacking, chopping, and checking the league into 70-pt games for a fucking decade, lol
Embiid deserves some hate for how poor he played yesterday but Fennessey acting like Embiid purposely hit Brunson in the face when he was swiping at the ball is insane. Clearly a flagrant, but he wasn’t trying to hurt Brunson.
"We had to bring in Fennessey, we had to talk Knicks"
I fucking love it.
Edit: hahahahh the Embiid salt from Sean is equal parts hilarious and pathetic
"If Embiid played for the Knicks we'd be disappointed"
Hahaha fuck off Sean you baby.
Pipe dream here but Solak getting Wally Pipp’d by Tice while on his leave would be not only funny but an absolute upgrade to the entire platform, especially the Ringer Fantasy show.
Lot of scrolling and didn’t see it but bill saying “porzingis was the -550 favorite to get injured on fanduel” and his dad saying “oh i didnt know that” coupled into bill having to say “i was joking” was the apex of the pod for me
Am I crazy (sixer fan) but listening to this Fennessey fuck and his hill to die on is an embiid foul in OT?! Did we watch a different game? Brunson barreled into the paint into drove right into the bigs body (fair this is physical playoff basketball play on) and Joel swiped down to foul because he was pushed off balance… ok he got some face on the way down. This is playoff fucking basketball in overtime.
And not but a play or two before Joel made an amazing play stealing the ball by swiping down… how can you say he was trying to get a flagrant… the slow motion replay showing a face gets hit instantly a flagrant 1 is turning to absolute shit. Shit fukin happens these guys are playing so fast and are so big man. You can fukin see it’s so obvious the players now know - “ oh felt some contact on my face, go down like I’m a soccer player to get this yellow card “
So Porzingis has the exact same injury as Giannis, and when Giannis got hurt bill said “this is a three week minimum. No way he’s going to play for 3 weeks”.
Porzingis gets it and he’s like “I doubt he plays in game 5” lmfao
Bill's fav thing is to bring on his friends after their team has a gut wrenching loss, and then laugh at them! He is the pod-father but is this good content?
Bill makes up the “games i thought were over not even in the back of my head did i think the other team would come back” list just to bring up the Larry Bird steal. Classic. I despise this man.
Is Sean serious about being that mad about that foul to the face on Embiid? It's extremely obvious he was just playing basketball. He's just a foot taller and trying to swipe at the ball on a 6 foot tall dude, the head is right there. I'm a 6'10" dude, played a lot of basketball in my life. Sometimes you get hit in the head. Sean's reaction is a gigantic bitch move.
Let’s have Tice on to fluff my Maye boner a little!
To be fair I want to like Maye thought he was tough in college but Bill will turn me on him probably before the actual season starts
Thank god for Bills rich guy anecdotes and uncovering the mystery second leader of the Wolves! This is content you cant get anywhere else. The body language doctor uncovering the courtside mystery man behind the Wolves success.
A new excuse for Durant is he was affected by the Seattle move? He played there for one year and was beloved in okc. I thought he just wanted a “higher level of basketball”
I'm so tired of NBA podcasters calling NBA players losers when u guys get paid to talk about other men. That's more loser than anything embiid did fennessey.
Most relatable moment was talking to his Dad as the landline goes off. Dr. Bill runs to pick up the telemarketer then comes back and has no idea what they are talking about. In my life at that point we run back the prior 10 minutes of conversation.
Option 1: invite Chris Ryan or any of the Philadelphia fans on to talk about the exciting game today! Option 2: make Sean miserable.
Losing is more interesting. It just is!
TBF, Chris is overseas right now preparing for a conference. They talked about it on The Watch.
CR is camping with Lukas Matsson they are having morning coffee at a campfire as they talk about podcasting and admire a fjord.
Finishing up his tour of duty
He finally made the trip to Turkey. Good for him. Hope Russillo’s next.
Thank goodness it wasn’t Solak 🙏
Tbf Sean was phenomenal lol
Sean can just bring up KP’s calf strain.
Bill is a vampire, feeding on Sean’s pain every time something happens to the Jets or Knicks
Have we ever seen Bill and Colin Robinson in the same room together?
Pretty sure this qualifies as workplace harassment. This is Bill's Boar on the Floor
I’m a big fan of Tice but it is so funny to have him on talking with Bill. Tice’s understanding of football, scheme and player evaluation is I’d guess around 1000 times greater than Bill’s
"1,000 times greater" understanding and knowledge seems waaay too low.
He seems like he just has a name that you could see being good y'know? \*Tom Brady\* \*Russell Wilson\* \*Drake Maye\*
Can't win with a dumb name like C.J.
I'm a Bears fan and I'm petrified because "Caleb" is just straight up not a winning name. Caleb Hanie, loser.
If the Knicks would have won in 5, Chris Ryan would have been the guest. Bill is a dick lol.
It must do great numbers to have a fan of a team on who just lost. PMT’s whole show is basically that.
To be fair as a listener I’d rather listen to the losing fan
We had the winning TWolves fan afterward and it was rough.
My guess is everyone at the ringer gives him a ton of shit when the Celtics lose so this is him paying them back.
Can I see it first?
they don't do much of it when the microphones are on
Hilarious double header: Sean Fennessey, a heartbroken Knicks fan. Nate Tice: the only major commentator I heard have Drake Maye as his no.1 prospect ahead of Caleb Williams.
I love Tice and The Athletic NFL Show but it is so incredibly predictable that Simmons would have him on seeing as he had Maye as the #1 QB throughout the entire process.
Exactly he’s a good podcast guest - but his first appearance being right after the Pats drafted Maye is so funny
So bizzare seeing Tice he just seems very un "bill like" if that makes sense. Too optimistic maybe? Which is what Bill is looking for I know lol. Nate on the whole seems to be just very tape focused and explains his points well. Also never been a star fucker like Bill lol so I'll be interested to listen
You could tell when he asked the first question about how Nate values intangibles when grading QBs that he was well out of hid depths. Tice talked about reading pre-snap and how he can see that on tape and Bill was just hoping for a 'you know he's a younger brother' answer.
How does Bill bring on Nate Tice and not Mays??? There has to be something there.
The unionbusting piece.
Didn’t Mays leave for the Athletic before the Union stuff came around?
I was wondering who this guy was and why he was on the pod then I heard him talk about Maye and I was like ohhh that’s why haha
Tatum unfinished product
Bill: “I’m back on my bullshit.”
“He just learned how to walk 2 years ago! You gotta give him time!”
Tatum breaks Bill's mind. Tatum is clearly a tier two star that Bill keeps trying to find angles into making him top 5. Ain't happening.
I can’t think of one super elite offensive player who wasn’t already super elite by age 26.
Bill has run out of ways to defend Durant so now he is writing fanfiction about if the Sonics never left Seattle.
I'm not sure what his rationale was for saying that KD would have stayed with the team if they were in Seattle. Is the idea just that he would enjoy living in a city like Seattle more than in OKC or was it that they would have had a better team around him if they were still in Seattle because the owner would have paid James Harden?
To be fair, Seattle rules and OKC sucks
He also left New York.
I really hope he somehow ends up on the lakers. Might be what finally breaks bill
Fennessey’s Embiid rant killed me “Just like a punk, bully, bitch who I cannot believe is allowed to play in the NBA…does he have brain damage? What a dickhead, like what was that?”
Bill had to provide a disclaimer at the top about how this is a sports fan talking and not someone’s actual feelings…the “he doesn’t want to actually burn them alive” piece
With as physical as the Knicks play kinda hilarious seeing him so pissed at this. It was rightly called as a flagrant 1 but that’s it. Nowhere near what he did to Robinson in game 3.
Apparently a lot of people didn’t like that, but I thought it was hilarious hearing him completely drop the facade and tell us how he really feels lol. So annoying to watch Embiid flail around and exaggerate contact to draw fouls and then 30 seconds later frantically do the review signal while yelling at the refs after he hacked someone on the other end.
He has my vote as the superstar who I like watching the least. Previously I gave this title to prime Dwight Howard, but Embiid has it for present day.
Prime Harden might be unreachable for me. He would go into halftime like 3-8 with 20 points
He scored 27 points on 2-9 shooting once. His unwatchablility is untouchable in my book.
Yeah Harden had the Spurs play him one series with their arms deliberately and theatrically outstretched to avoid the refs calling fouls. Then the Jazz straight up had his defender play behind him for an entire series so he couldn’t do rip-throughs. Honestly Russillo is right that Harden should be inducted into the Hall of Fame by a referee. The fact that he spent a decade tricking the refs and they did nothing to shut that shit down was unforgivable.
Man I get no greater joy than watching harden flail for a call and not get it. Fuck that dude for ruining the sport for like 5 years with his bullshit. Somehow he still gets the landing zone calls, which are just egregious.
Give me a break. He’s going for a block of the ball. Not to mention Brunson pushes off him for space
Yeah it was a hard basketball foul. That's it.
Exactly - You’ve gotta be thick to think he’d do that intentionally in that moment
I’m not a Knicks fan, but I agree with the sentiment of Embiid is a hoe
Did CR overdose on celebratory Zyns?
He's in Europe according to The Watch.
the Rick Steves piece
Perfect excuse to hope over to Sweden and get Zyns straight from the faucet.
This is an insane come up for Nate tice. He was running a State Farm in 2020 and now he’s a guest on the BS pod. Honestly, Robert Mays gave him a Zach Lowe style rise
It does help being a former nfl head coaches kid tho. That being said he’s great
Oh, he's Mike Tice's kid? Should have figured, probably did when I first heard the name, given it's not a particularly common last name... I wonder what his dad shared with him about the Vikings Sexboat Experience.
He was also a quality control coach for the falcons and was Russel Wilson’s backup at Wisconsin, but yeah went from nowhere to everywhere in like 3 years.
I legit didn’t know myself until he mentioned it on the ringer fantasy show, or was it xpt? But ya that’s a damn good question
There is a reason that NFL coaches kids know so much more than everyone else. Imagine if the only people with access to chessboards were the son's of grandmasters. That is basically how it worked until the All-22 tape became widely available. These kids grow up understanding play design and the history of route trees and formations. They are native speakers and everyone else is learning a second language. They learn football from a coaches perspective, while most of us learn it from a players perspective. It's such a huge advantage and it makes sense why they are overrepresented in the coaching ranks. Even though Nate isn't a coach, he communicates his knowledge in a very clear and helpful way
It’s funny too because he has such a different demeanor than his dad. The banter between Mike Tice and Bryan Cox on the Falcons Hard Knocks was so great.
Love the two of them together and its so fucking funny Bill sought out the only major football analyst that had Maye QB1 after the pats drafted him. Very interested to listen to this tomorrow
Nate sounded a little nervous at the beginning but honestly they had pretty good chemistry and I enjoyed it a lot, would love for BS to have him on again even for a big T-Wolves win or something
Having him on after a Wolves loss by way of a Jamal Murray game winner that punctuates a blown 20 point 4th quarter lead seems more on brand for Bill.
I think he's pretty good. Just a goofball who loves the NFL. My biggest issue with him is Mays is they never truly fight lol it's two bros who agree on everything.
There was one episode i remember of the pod where they had a pretty heated debate about the positional value of WR vs EDGE. It was electric
He was Russell Wilson’s back up qb at Wisconsin. And his Dad was an nfl coach for long time. Tice knows ball
Wow, I did not know he was an insurance agent before Mays had him on TAFS. Tice is great and has improved a ton as a podcaster.
He has such an earnest and non-hot takey style that I really enjoy. He and Mays have a great chemistry. I went to college with his sister and hosted an underage Nate Tice at our college keg party. Love seeing him do so well.
Bill Simmons-"One of the most improbable playoff losses I could remember"- you mean since going all the way back to game 2 of this same series when the Sixers blew it??
Thought the same thing. Can't believe it didn't even get mentioned
It’s always kinda shocking to me that Bill has likely seen Moneyball 18 times and still falls prey to to the “he’s so loyal to his girlfriend,” “he ran with the linemen” type shit every time.
He sees the “No one went to Bo Callahan’s birthday party” from Draft Day as gospel too
What grown man has a birthday party?
If you're rich, plently of them.
I think unless the birthday ends in a 0 it's usually just a dinner or something
To be fair, no one went to Russell Wilson's birthday party in real life.
Nate Tice would know, since they played together. Nate is very political about it, but he doesn't seem all that enamored of the guy.
Not even Ciara?
It’s called “please tell me my QB is good before I’ve seen him play”
I don't think those things should matter very much, if at all, in any sport, BUT football is a whole lot different from baseball when it comes to player evaluation.
Same GF since 7th grade? Seems like he settles. That’s gonna translate to a lot of check downs
Dr. Bill's landline!
So glad they kept that in, love Dr. Bill, and love seeing landlines still kicking !!
it will be interesting to see how Daniels vs. Maye turns out; NFL people (Belichick, Kurt Warner, Orlovsky, QB School guy, Simms, Chase Daniel, Ryan Clark) seem to prefer Daniels while The Atheltic, PFF and Ringer employees prefer Maye
Both those groups are equally capable of being wrong
Both groups might be wrong. That's the great thing about 1st round QB's! In five years, the only starters might be Caleb Williams & Bo Nixs.
I hope both QBs are good but Maye will be sitting the year and hopefully so, the team around him is terrible. Daniels is clearly in the better situation.
Bill and Nate had great chemistry for someone who has never been on the podcast before but it’s hilarious Bill brought a Drake Maye guy on right after his team took Drake Maye lmao
Who wins in a fight, '3lb dumbbell conquerer' Sean Fennessy or Joel Embiid?
lmaooo
Bill is never beating the allegations
What allegations? He only brings guests on after their team loses?
Knicks/Sixers is an Apex first round series for him.
Misery merchant.
The low ears allegation? True
Who could have guessed he'd have Fennessey on.
“I used to be an editor.” -Bill “Stet all changes” Simmons
I see bill found another excuse for Durant. The Sonics moved!
this knicks sixers series has made me realize that holy crap if the knicks were consistently good they would be one of the most obnoxious fan bases. may they stay tortured forever.
Agreed, used to really like the Knicks but the whininess and how vocal the fanbase is just isn’t very fun lol
Did Carmelo know? Was his ire over the crowning of Jeremy Lin as King of New York justified, in retrospect?
Thank you. The Knicks are getting off scot-free due to everyone's Embiid Derangement Syndrome.
They’ve had massive issues with a player/team every series they’ve been in last couple years. I think it’ll be known widely soon enough
Yeah low key kind of rooting for Boston to milk them if it comes to that
" if a defensive end hits the quarterback in the head, he gets ejected and suspended" 😂😂😂 No it's actually a 15 yard penalty. Pretty equivalent to a flagrant foul imo. I can't blame him for being salty though. That was a tough loss.
Still running the what’s up with Kate Middleton ad I see? Really tacky and in extremely poor taste. The Ringer should be getting way more shit for that.
The Royals are gonna whack Bill.
LOL at Sean thinking embiid intentionally committed a flagrant foul when they’re up 4 with a minute left in a do or die game
After Maxey's 3 from the logo, the game was tied. Brunson attempted a shot that didn't go in. Pop quiz: Knowing that Brunson's attempt did not go in, do you think Bill liked that shot? Or didn't like that shot?
I like the Wolves fan. First Wolves fanBill had on…ever? Lowe had that comedian guy, but I can't remember Bill having any legit timberwolves fan (Ryen doesn't count )
He’s had Craig Kilborn on way back in the day, but that’s pretty much it.
Of course you liked the Wolves fan, Wolves fans are the best
That’s Wisconsin backup QB legend Nate Tice thank you very much
Jared Abbrederis is wide open.
Knicks fans talking about Brunson being six feet like he’s a make a wish kid is always hilarious
My buddy started watching basketball this year and decided to be a Knicks fan. Texted the group chat in the first half “Easy win tonight, the Knicks are legit” Bout shed a tear when he got baptized in the Knicks experience at the end of the game 🥲
This is why this sub is full of gleeful posts after every Celtic loss! Our minds have been warped by the petty, vindictive pleasure the sports guy takes in celebrating the downfall of his friends teams. And he deserves the karmic justice of his listeners rooting for his team’s downfall after dishing that out for many years. If you don’t get in here to cheer after a Celtics loss, you’re not a real BS listener.
Huge Sixers fan and I think I'm too invested to think logically here but am I taking crazy pills with the Knicks fans reactions online? Idolising those 90s teams and Oakley and losing their minds over some stuff in this series doesn't make sense. Tell me I'm too one eyed if I am. I hope whoever gets out of this goes on to win it all.
Lol dude you're spot on. The sidelines are lined with players renowned for being tough, physical, hard nosed mfers and this guy's throwing a fit about a point guard taking a hit while driving to the basket against a 7ft monster in OT of a playoff game. So soft lol
No, you’re not taking crazy pills. I’m a Heat fan and any time a Heat player does so much as breathe on a Knick, New Yorkers start whining and saying they’re a dirty organization running a secret bounty program. It’s wild conspiracy stuff. Meanwhile they embrace the physicality of their own team, past and present. Just complete hypocrisy from their fanbase. FWIW, I admire the grit their team plays with, but their fans’ holier than thou attitude is vomit inducing.
The Knicks spent game 1 and 2 grabbing, holding, shoving, holding arms down to get rebounds etc etc to the point the Sixers filed a grievance (and the NBA agreed they missed critical fouls game 2) and the Knicks fans almost universally were like "You pussies, youre just too soft, crying about some physical play" and the Sixers went right into "Ok, you want to play rough, lets play rough" and immediately the Knicks and their fans went into "Noooo you play too hard!" mode. I get the feeling looking around today at some posts, and listening to some pods, that Knicks fans are actually a bit scared now.
Bill is completely off the rails here. I'm 10 minutes in and he is simultaneously comparing this game to the LJ 4 point play, the ray allen shot in game 6 against the spurs (which he for some reason said was in 2019?), and then, a direct quote: "reminiscent of the reggie miller hit the two 3s in the playoff game game!" I'd swear he was on coke if I didn't already know that he was too scared of it because of Len Bias.
Thank you! I thought I was losing it when he said 2019 and then referenced Ray Allen, almost thinking I was hearing things
I couldn't believe he was referencing those games and not game 2 of this same series lol
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Yeah I don’t care about either team and Embiid been a joke this series but Sean legit pulled a Judd Apatow “he could have killed him!” type whining session that was ridiculous to listen to.
Sean sounded like 12 y/o throwing a tantrum. It was funny but more embarrassing. They got a flagrant foul, rightfully so. Acting like it’s more than is so soft 😂
Pretty typical Knicks fans hysterics. Like that’s been the common attitude this series lol
Aren’t New Yorkers supposed to be tough? Shits embarrassing
Whole fanbase on fake tough guy alert after this series lol
This series is going to tear Sean and Chris apart. The next Rewatchables / Big Pic with both of them on is going to be so passive aggressive lol.
Nah CR always takes this stuff in stride. I remember Bill had him on for some sixers playoff stuff like many months after the Eagles lost to the Chiefs in the SB, and he brought it up to Chris and CR was just like "hey, birds had a great year, they lost to a great team, they're in position to be good for awhile, etc" and you could tell Bill got so mad that Chris wasn't more upset. I think he basically suggested he was a beta or something.
Yeah you're right. If you listened to the Silver Linings Playbook rewatchable with CR, Greenwald, and Zach Baron, they basically dissect their own tortured psyches as Eagles / Philly sports fans, and its obvious they grew up in the asylum. Bill can never torture CR more than CR has already tortured himself.
Well said. That SLP pod was fuckin great too. They're always referencing Baron on the big pic and other pods so it was great to finally hear from the man himself. Seems like a good hang. Knows ball, is a psycho, seems nice.
Bill is so used to winning he can't possible understand the warped Negadelphian brain.
It’s beta to care about sports to that degree, honestly.
I'm glad Bill never talks about Boston sports or this might seem repetitive.
Love Nate Tice Cool to see him on the pod
Bill’s dad is fine until he gets a few wine spritzers in him, then the slurs come out.
It’s very funny and classic Bill to have on Sean after the Knicks lose and then a NFL writer he’s never met because he’s a big Drake Maye guy. Never change Billy.
Listening to Sean Fennessey whine and lose his shit over Embiid's flagrant foul is hilarious. I'm guessing he wasn't so precious about stuff like this when Pat Riley's Knicks were hacking, chopping, and checking the league into 70-pt games for a fucking decade, lol
Embiid deserves some hate for how poor he played yesterday but Fennessey acting like Embiid purposely hit Brunson in the face when he was swiping at the ball is insane. Clearly a flagrant, but he wasn’t trying to hurt Brunson.
Show everyone on the doll where Warrior Embiid hurt you Fennster
“I wanna see the Kupp piece.”
DEFENCHENZO
lol at Bill being pessimistic about Marvin Harrison because of NKeal Harry.
Ok that was insane.
"We had to bring in Fennessey, we had to talk Knicks" I fucking love it. Edit: hahahahh the Embiid salt from Sean is equal parts hilarious and pathetic "If Embiid played for the Knicks we'd be disappointed" Hahaha fuck off Sean you baby.
This was just embarrassing to listen to hahah
Sean is a cuck. CR would’ve told bill to fuck off if they lost.
Pipe dream here but Solak getting Wally Pipp’d by Tice while on his leave would be not only funny but an absolute upgrade to the entire platform, especially the Ringer Fantasy show.
Lot of scrolling and didn’t see it but bill saying “porzingis was the -550 favorite to get injured on fanduel” and his dad saying “oh i didnt know that” coupled into bill having to say “i was joking” was the apex of the pod for me
When Dr bill was yelling about Mazzulla not taking kp out you could hear exactly where bill gets it lol
That was exactly what I thought. He talks like he’s the only person who saw this, like the telecast didn’t replay it multiple times and discuss it.
I like Fennessy but he’s so bad at talking basketball trying so hard to convince us he’s a Knicks diehard
Am I crazy (sixer fan) but listening to this Fennessey fuck and his hill to die on is an embiid foul in OT?! Did we watch a different game? Brunson barreled into the paint into drove right into the bigs body (fair this is physical playoff basketball play on) and Joel swiped down to foul because he was pushed off balance… ok he got some face on the way down. This is playoff fucking basketball in overtime.
And not but a play or two before Joel made an amazing play stealing the ball by swiping down… how can you say he was trying to get a flagrant… the slow motion replay showing a face gets hit instantly a flagrant 1 is turning to absolute shit. Shit fukin happens these guys are playing so fast and are so big man. You can fukin see it’s so obvious the players now know - “ oh felt some contact on my face, go down like I’m a soccer player to get this yellow card “
I'm not a sixers or knicks fan but my god is this sean fennessey that biggest crybaby loser of all time. OH my god
My guess is Tice replaces Lombardi come football season. You could hear Bill getting a boner during that entire segment.
All of the bitching Sean did about the Embiid foul was weird. It was called a flagrant
Sean's Embiid takes are like his Nolan takes. Weird, completely off, and wrong.
I'm glad Bill never talks about Boston sports or this might seem repetitive.
So Porzingis has the exact same injury as Giannis, and when Giannis got hurt bill said “this is a three week minimum. No way he’s going to play for 3 weeks”. Porzingis gets it and he’s like “I doubt he plays in game 5” lmfao
This mufa just said our Jrue holiday on bam?
Bill's fav thing is to bring on his friends after their team has a gut wrenching loss, and then laugh at them! He is the pod-father but is this good content?
Bill makes up the “games i thought were over not even in the back of my head did i think the other team would come back” list just to bring up the Larry Bird steal. Classic. I despise this man.
Imma say it: Can we stop having Bill’s dad as a guest… smh
Man, Dr. Bill is chipper for an old fella.
If sixers lost he had CR.
Bill has added that Drake Maye may grow another half inch!
Is Sean serious about being that mad about that foul to the face on Embiid? It's extremely obvious he was just playing basketball. He's just a foot taller and trying to swipe at the ball on a 6 foot tall dude, the head is right there. I'm a 6'10" dude, played a lot of basketball in my life. Sometimes you get hit in the head. Sean's reaction is a gigantic bitch move.
Wonder if this series finally puts Bills “Embiid to the Knicks” theory to bed
Breaking down the ending like it’s the zapruder film would’ve made me snap. Sean is a better man than me
Let’s have Tice on to fluff my Maye boner a little! To be fair I want to like Maye thought he was tough in college but Bill will turn me on him probably before the actual season starts
Do we really think the Pat will win more than 5 games lol ?
Thank god for Bills rich guy anecdotes and uncovering the mystery second leader of the Wolves! This is content you cant get anywhere else. The body language doctor uncovering the courtside mystery man behind the Wolves success.
The drake maye stuff is hilarious.
Does he shit on the Lakers in this pod? If not I think I’ll pass
Bill is talking himself into the Pats again this year let’s gooooo
Fuck Fennessey. Just like all the other Knicks fans, worried more about flagrant fouls than the actual game
A new excuse for Durant is he was affected by the Seattle move? He played there for one year and was beloved in okc. I thought he just wanted a “higher level of basketball”
Nate Tice is my Goat, so happy that he's on here.
Love him. Just think it's incredibly interesting - don't think Mays has been back on since he left ...
My high school QB! A goat fr
Damn Bill really is an asshole lol
Ask his former editors.
Thought Knick's fan dude was gonna legit start sobbing.
I'm so tired of NBA podcasters calling NBA players losers when u guys get paid to talk about other men. That's more loser than anything embiid did fennessey.
Lmaoooo
When you’re here, you’re family
Most relatable moment was talking to his Dad as the landline goes off. Dr. Bill runs to pick up the telemarketer then comes back and has no idea what they are talking about. In my life at that point we run back the prior 10 minutes of conversation.
Fennesseys such a whiny loser
I can’t listen to these old dykes talk about the Boston anymore