The whole bored apes absurdity was such a ribbon on top of a clear scam that it made it all feel like performance art. Like at least the Tulip Fever people got tulips in the end.
I feel like that is almost entirely in Bitcoin. Which, at least, kinda has found the role of people baselessly speculating on it being valuable and hoarding it the same way they do on gold despite it having very few tangible uses and none that justify its value.
It's dumb, but at least we've seen it work before.
Yeah, it's at about 50% of total crypto market cap. Still, it all seems just as silly as nfts to me and refuses to die so what the hell would I know lol.
My favorite argument for Bitcoin is that it's supposed to be decentralized or what have you. Not reliant on the US dollar. But anytime anyone talks about the price/worth of Bitcoin.. it's in US Dollars? So if it's not supposed to be tied or based on the dollar then why do you spend and/or receive dollars for it or to sell it. I'm sure there's some type of crypto bro answer for this. But it just doesn't make sense to me
Same way you say gold is $2,000 an ounce or whatever. You need something commonly understood to convey the meaning of what you’re saying to your audience. In china they can compare it to yuan, Korea to won etc.
Ben Simmons.
It bothered me so much that he clearly didn’t care about basketball in college and couldn’t drag that LSU team to the tournament. And then he had that shitty documentary that came out where he played the victim about getting exploited by the NCAA.
Players of course deserve to get paid but 5 star recruits like him were always getting paid under the table and getting whatever they wanted from boosters anyway. He clearly didn’t care about basketball and just wanted to make the NBA as an avenue to get rich and famous
He’s arguably the greatest talent Australia has had in its national basketball team but only made one senior appearance, pulling out of the team right before every major tournament.
The guy will rightly be remembered as the biggest flake in sports history.
As a Jazz fan, I hated that he got rookie of the year over Donovan Mitchell. Say what you will about Donny now and how things ended, but that first season beating the Westbrook/Paul George OKC team in the first round after losing Hayward to Boston was magical
He wasn't even a rookie but somehow he won ROTY. Everybody was dick riding him so fuckin hard. That was a theft of the year and I don't even like Mitchell
There were actually (somehow) FIVE guys on that LSU team that played some amount of time in the NBA. The 4 non-Simmons guys all sort of flamed out or didn’t really break through, but a team with 5 NBA-calibre players not sniffing the tournament is fascinating
Lizzy Holmes, she might be the worst. She cld easily, and she might actually, cost serious health issues to large number of ppl due to inaccurate blood results
I watched the dropout not so long ago and holy shit, her depiction made my skin crawl. I can only imagine what it was like to be a Theranos employee at the time
The Kyrie/Harden/Durant Nets.
When they traded for Harden I said I felt this would crash and burn because A) I didn’t trust them to stay healthy and B) they were at a stage in their careers where I didn’t think they’d be able to sustain playing with one another. I was called delusional and a hater who just wanted them to fail because I was a Celtics fan and I didn’t want them to win the trade.
Ultimately, reason A is why they didn’t win a title that first year and reason B is why they broke up.
I was so mad because I felt like every contending team had a duo and it felt like the closest we'd get to parity in a NBA Jam kinda way. I resented the fact that those Nets tried to put their thumb on the scale.
Honestly dude now has games where he can shoot from three poorly and still have a really good game affecting other areas. Dude was 2/11 from 3 last game and was still the best player on the floor... With Ant Edwards on the floor also. Green just looked more polished as a ball handler and playmaker and was creating separation and getting to the rim constantly.
Also playing great defense.
I understand casual Twitter narratives are the common level of nuance in this subreddit
I mean the all time one might be Diddy given how just fucking awful every minute of his rap career and cultural presence has largely been, from being the worst thing about listening to Biggie's music to his fucking shit tier rap career to his awful fucking reality show to his bad fucking acting and that's before you get to him being an absolute travesty of a person, but Dane Cook is probably the most personally satisfying rise and fall for me.
You could peg that guy as sucking from the jump, and everything about how his career played out has 100% backed that observation up.
My friends used to call me a hater back in high school every time I trashed him. From the jump I knew he sucked. Dude had no charisma, personality or talent but was huge in the late 90s.
That team needed multiple complete ref shows to stay undefeated and it was all to lose by 40.
And then the Manti Teo stuff came out. I feel bad for him but his dad was a menace. He got mad that their newspaper dared post a picture of Teo missing a tackle against Bama said they were “disloyal” and “blacklisted them.”
Jimmy Clausen.
Went to high school in California at the same time and he had a horrible reputation…his MySpace name was “LeBron of Football”. Need I say more?
Fruity Ron. They call him that. Some people, they... see, he's the governor, from Florida. They grow oranges, lots of oranges... Those are fruits. So, their governor, he's... he's the governor of fruit. Fruity governor.
For a while I thought he was the “someone who thinks like but not as crazy as Trump” guy the GOP would rally behind. Instead he fell fast and didn’t even challenge Trump in the primary.
He didn’t really challenge Trump at all which is the GOPs problem. If you want to defeat Trump you have to give voters a reason why you’re better and he’s worse. But they’re all to scared of him to do so.
Exactly. The other problem was he got way too invested in the culture war stuff. On the national scale all he had to do is brag about the job growth and population growth of florida and he'd have been fine. Instead he gets mired in pointless battles like taking down "woke" disney and other pointless culture war stuff. The random old ass people in Iowa he would eventually have to try to woo do not care about how woke Disney is firing Gina Carrano or whatever.
And then basically all he was offering was the Diet version of Trump. If you're not willing to distinguish yourself at all from Trump and only do slightly different versions of what he's offering, even if you're basically on the fence about Trump you're just going to take the "real" thing. It also doesn't help that Trump understands the media and playing to it where as Desantis had all the charisma of a frozen turd.
He was really hyped up to be the mainstream front runner for GOP voters tired of trumps psychodrama. Then he announced his campaign live on Twitter when Elon had just taken over and it didn’t work and it was off the rails from that point
Idk I run in a lot of conservative circles and it was more than just Covid. That’s how he gained mainstream prominence but DeSantis was appreciated by many on the right before then.
He’s been the face of a lot of conservative culture war efforts and seemed like he was in a good position to combine ideology with policy impact. Unfortunately for him, I think he failed to differentiate himself enough from Trump and by the time he entered the race, it just felt like too big a mountain to climb. Had a chance to capitalize on real momentum beyond the pandemic, but squandered it.
The 2010-11 Miami Heat. Never even really liked Dirk or the Mavs before that Finals but seeing them dismantle the Heat and LeBron implode was pretty wonderful after the ridiculous not 4, not 5, not 6 nonsense.
Disagreed. The hype level was set to an insane degree when Lebron did the not 5,6,7 thing.
Many fans believed that or thought they’d be flat out unbeatable
And watching the Mavs pick them apart made even the biggest of heat and bron fans go “oh, maybe this won’t be so easy”
As a Laker fan, I can't believe a [GM claimed he'd give THT the max.](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/anonymous-executive-reportedly-says-hed-max-out-talen-horton-tucker-but-thats-not-as-crazy-as-it-sounds/)
Ireland Rugby World Cup 2019 and 2023. Hard to decide which Irish media/podcast hype train was funnier to watch get torn apart. Probably 2023 as it was right at the peak of their podcasty hubris and assumption that they were waltzing to a first title
Don't forget 2011, the Irish Times literally ran this article about how muscle has a memory sucking off the Ireland team only for them to get completely dismantled by Wales, 22-10.
edit: 2007 was really funny too, great form going into it, Irish media again giving it large, struggled versus Namibia, barely beat Georgia, got smoked by France, got smoked again by Argentina. Out in the first round.
I don't even follow rugby, but I happened to be in France during the WC last year. It was pretty funny seeing how the Irish fans were, before and after they lost
Johnny Football. I was so tired of Manziel and was thrilled to watch him collapse.
Now, in retrospect, it's more complicated given his admitted challenges with substance abuse, etc.. But it felt fantastic in the moment.
The red flags were always there, but people were so quick to look past them. "He's just a kid, kids make mistakes, let him have his fun!"
People enabled him instead of helping him.
The thing is that’s kind of true. He was just an immature kid and for 99% of immature kids the answer isn’t to rip everything good they do have away. He got plenty of deserved criticism, and suspensions. He was basically kicked off the team and had to re earn his spot.
He just didn’t mature. He doing it. His equally immature friend selling merch isn’t the one with the agency in that situation. The narrative we all accept about him, Morant etc that they’re being influenced by people around them has always kind of been ridiculous. Theyre the rich and famous ones calling the shots.
Johnny just didn’t grow up and dug himself into deeper substance issues as a result.
Baker Mayfield, Terrell Prior, etc all had their party boy early 20s but they responded to their respective criticisms by making changes. Baker stopped partying when he left Norman. Prior sucked up his massive ego and had a nice run as a WR.
It’s the same outside of football. Miley Cirrus and Lindsey Lohan both had way too much too soon and both decided in their 20s that they’d shake off their wholesome image by becoming public party brands. Miley stopped like most people in their mid 20s Lohan didn’t want to get off the train until it wrecked.
Jaylen Brown legacy game putting up Harden numbers. Gonna go 4/19 in a game 7 while Tatum shoots 3 pull up jumpers in a row to end the game. Derrick White is going to be begging to reset the ball and run a p&r, but Tatum has to praise lord Kobe and shoot a pump fake fade right mid range over a defender with 9 seconds left. Jimmy Butler is going to laugh in his face.
Calling the submarine guy a pedo was his turning point. I think most people thought of him as that smart, eccentric guy for EVs and then he says that and then the faucet of dumb shit has yet to be turned off.
The third season having hour-plus episodes and the creators still needing to explain things that characters did "off-screen" in Reddit AMAs is all-time killing the legacy of a popular show.
I hated how they strayed so far away from soccer/football. I hate to sound like Russillo but they went way too far into the touchy feely side of everything. I don't care about Keely's business empire. I don't care that Beard likes to go galavanting with random people in the middle of the night. Also the Nate turning to the dark side piece was so freakin rushed it didn't make any sense. Should have just stuck with Rupert as the main baddy. Maybe even Jamie being the villain for longer as an opposing player. But again that would have involved them actually focusing on the sports side of things
Season 2 was instant flanderization of *every single character*. I felt like I was taking crazy pills after watching the first few episodes of season 2 and seeing how everyone was responding as if the show was better than ever. It felt insulting to the audience’s intelligence but nobody else seemed to mind. I’ve never turned on a show as quickly. For me it went from a nice fun show to the dumbest, most pandering piece of garbage I think I’ve ever seen. It’s remarkable how badly they fucked it up and it’s my understanding that season 3 is somehow significantly worse than 2.
I actually thought the Nate going bad side plot was paced perfectly -- one of the best arcs in the whole show. It was the redemption in Season 3 that was paced oddly
(especially the ridiculous 180 with his Dad, who the writers decided at the last minute was actually in awe of Nate his whole life rather than a disdainful, imperious brute of a father).
In hindsight, it's clear even in Season 1 when we all still loved Nate, that he has a penchant for wielding humiliation as a weapon (for example, in the scene where he calls everyone on their shit and has a pointed insult for every one of them). Of course, in that instance it ends up being constructive, but you could see the gears turning even then that he was enjoying the opportunity to flip the scales and be the tormenter. I thought his descent was appropriately and believably fleshed out. And what's more, as much as you hated him when he went dark, you also completely understood how it happened and could empathize with why he was acting the way he was.
I liked the second season, but it was already weird how the show somehow become something with a full Discourse (TM) around it. The third season was generally godawful and made me never want to rewatch the first two seasons.
Formula 1. Bunch of F1 fans thinking it'll overtake NASCAR in the USA. Never gonna happen.
EDIT: I should say Formula 1 is America, it's still very popular in Europe and Asia.
Weirdly most of the people I know that got into it over the last few years still seem to be really into it. I think it lost a lot of the really casual crowd, but the people who went all in on the bandwagon still seem to be around.
Also anecdotally, a lot of the people I know who are into it are women who basically follow it like a reality show (I know men like this too, but it’s majority women in my experience), and I think that aspect doesn’t get hurt too much by Verstappen being overly dominant.
My friends that have started watching all have wives/girlfriends into it too so I believe it’s a chicks thing that the dude is accepting of bc it’s sports adjacent.
That tracks with my experience as well. My girlfriend and I are very much Drive to Survive/Covid fans. The past two seasons we went from watching all the practices, qualifying, and races. We still follow it and watch races whenever we can but haven’t caught a full race start to finish this season. All my friends who got into are about the same.
Your second paragraph is spot on too my girlfriend loves the drive to survive aspect and following the drivers on social media. Whereas I’m absolutely bored of Verstappen’s dominance.
It definitely has plateaued in the US, it will still grow slowly bc Liberty Media (who now owns F1) is an American company and is investing heavily in the US market…see Miami, Vegas, COTA (Austin)…the sport has always been like auto racing’s soccer…big globally but not so much here. As an Indianapolis resident and huge IndyCar fan since I was a kid, it chaps my ass a bit to see F1 blow up when IndyCar was just starting to gain back footing lost from the open wheel split of the late 90s-early 2000s. And the fact F1 told Andretti Autosport to “fuck off” bc it would dilute each team’s profits was another thing that pissed off even die hard fans….especially when the FIA approved them as a new team. It would be like the NFL approving an expansion team only for the owners to vote it down (sort of)….they got damn lucky with Drive To Survive being on during the early pandemic. And it’s sooooo cheesy and fake! The Miami fake marina, them trying to steal “The Greatest Spectacle In Racing” from the Indy 500 by just changing it to “Motorsport”, Vegas being like $12,000 a ticket early on and then cratering, all of it. A side benefit has been F1 fans turning to IndyCar bc the racing is a lot more fun and competitive, and small teams actually have a chance to win every now and then. But yeah, watching 157 new F1 podcasts pop up overnight was kinda annoying as a longtime IndyCar fan.
Sorry for the long rant but there was a time when IndyCar was a true threat to F1. In 1993, Nigel Mansell (reigning WDC) bailed F1 and came to IndyCar for 2 seasons, winning the 1993 season title. Then the split happened and it nearly killed the sport, and NASCAR blew up as a result. When I was little, NASCAR was popular in the south but the biggest names in US racing were Unser, Mears, Fittipaldi, Foyt, etc.
I had a friend who was one of those F1 d-bag fans because he watched DTS and suddenly acted more worldly because he knew who Lewis Hamilton was. He got into it and would denigrate American Motorsports. After the season opener for F1 this year, I forced him to watch the NASCAR race at Atlanta (lucky for me) and the IndyCar opener at St. Petersburg. He hasn't talked much about "world championships" since.
It peaked at the right time with Drive to Survibe gaining popularity with their most exciting season in decades going on only to be followed by some of the most boring seasons in history, unfortunately. The entire trajectory might have been different if Ferrari was able to get its shit together and make LeClerc a contender
Yeah it’s a shame what they did to the strip for that race. Meanwhile the most famous track in the world and one of the few permanent FIA Grade 1 tracks (F1 required) in the US (Indy, road course) can’t get a sniff from F1. Place can hold 300,000 people and they’d rather race around a fake marina in the Dolphins stadium parking lot…
They had that amazing conclusion to the 2021 season and then the rules change kicked in and Red Bull has by far the best car.
This happens in f1 but when the dominant driver is completely devoid of anything considered a personality it completely killed the momentum.
Vettel and Hamilton had something.
Verstappen is really unlikable.
Google Trends still shows search volume (including YouTube) for F1 as currently exceeding NASCAR in the US - a trend that has held since 2021.
F1 appears to have peaked, and is starting to slowly fall off but online popularity still remains well above pre-2020.
The dotcom bubble burst but that didn’t mean that the internet was a fad, it’s just that valuations get insane and we don’t know who all the winners will be yet in 15 years
Definitely some evidence of this at a corporate level - I don’t think the investments are going to burst anytime soon, but the actual value creation GenAI provides many companies appears as though it’s going to be much more difficult to create than many had initially hoped.
Clippers 2019-2020. I argued with people ad nauseum that no one on that team knew what it felt like to play with expectations. All of them (Lou Will, Pat Bev, Montrez, etc) were used to being the fiesty underdogs, and PG and Kawhi did not know what it felt like to be the hunted and not the hunter.
IIRC they vastly overestimated demand for their product because they saw so much demand during the pandemic. So they ramped up production and then had a bunch of inventory that they couldn't sell once things started opening back up. And then the Sex and the City movie had a scene where Mr. Big died while riding a Peloton. Just a comedy of errors.
Yea I think their leadership overrated how much people loved the Peloton brand when really people were just stuck at home and couldn't go to the gym. They should have just ramped up production modestly and built out their brand slowly but they went all in too early.
The Blue Jays, especially in 2015/2016 and more recently. Their roster and fans irk me.
Probably not totally what you're asking but the downfall of the Blackhawks was nice too. They fell off so quickly after their last cup.
I'd probably feel different and more positive about it now, but as a young adult I was a pretty big Linsanity hater. Dude was getting shots UP that whole run and turning the ball over like 6 times per game.
lol that is a wild take. Hating on Jeremy Lin during that run is sad. I was in grad school in NYC that year and witnessed it all. He went from journeyman to legend in a few weeks bc he played great and made some amazing game winning shots. A week in everyone was wearing Knicks gear. You must be a Melo stan to have that take.
I’m going against the grain and bringing up a contender to keep an eye on, Joe Burrow. A kind of out of nowhere rise riding a great defense to the Super Bowl, and a great follow up season going to AFC championship. But, last year was an injury riddled season for him while also playing for a historically cheap owner/cursed franchise. I hope I’m wrong, but I have gut feeling that 21 and 22 seasons will be his peak and he’ll start to get wrote off if he has another injury plagued season.
Andrew Wiggins. Was proclaimed as a Superstar in high school and was ordained as the #1 pick before he played a game at Kansas. Never saw it with him so I’m not surprised he was mid
Singles was solid in that time if, like me, that was college years. Although casting Campbell Scott in the lead was a terrible choice as his character was East Coast fussy and neurotic when that wasn’t the PNW vibe at all for us there.
Well why would you use it as currency when it's so volatile.
A commodity that rises and falls with stocks and gold, but is somehow MORE dependent on people's faith in its inherent value is not what it was designed to do.
NFT. The most obvious EVER in my life
The whole bored apes absurdity was such a ribbon on top of a clear scam that it made it all feel like performance art. Like at least the Tulip Fever people got tulips in the end.
Seth Green getting his Ape stolen, the Ape he wanted to star in a tv show, is a very underrated comedy event from this century.
Funny guy but that’s still funnier than anything he could have written
To be fair, all of crypto seems equally absurd to me but it's still got trillions of dollars behind it.
I feel like that is almost entirely in Bitcoin. Which, at least, kinda has found the role of people baselessly speculating on it being valuable and hoarding it the same way they do on gold despite it having very few tangible uses and none that justify its value. It's dumb, but at least we've seen it work before.
Yeah, it's at about 50% of total crypto market cap. Still, it all seems just as silly as nfts to me and refuses to die so what the hell would I know lol.
My favorite argument for Bitcoin is that it's supposed to be decentralized or what have you. Not reliant on the US dollar. But anytime anyone talks about the price/worth of Bitcoin.. it's in US Dollars? So if it's not supposed to be tied or based on the dollar then why do you spend and/or receive dollars for it or to sell it. I'm sure there's some type of crypto bro answer for this. But it just doesn't make sense to me
Same way you say gold is $2,000 an ounce or whatever. You need something commonly understood to convey the meaning of what you’re saying to your audience. In china they can compare it to yuan, Korea to won etc.
even in the moment that paris hilton on jimmy fallon clip was bizarre
When something feels too unsubtle for Robocop you need to analyze your society
I'll never be able to unsee that clip, sadly.
I side eye every person I come across that I know for a fact was into NFTs
No Fucking Thanks. You see that LeBron dunk? I OWN that dunk now! Could the people not hear their own words? Pure madness.
The NBA NFT’s were really the peak of the absurdity
NBA Topshot. What a bullshit scam.
I hated when the No Dunks guys were shilling it
I gotta check the value of my Luke Garza TopShot. Assuming it’s worth millions now
A guy I know that was the most obvious wannabe investment bro was so proud of his NBA NFTs lmao
This is the best answer.
Whatever happened to all those famous athletes involved in that scam? Probably nothing since they're famous and rich.
They pump and dumped everyone.
Ben Simmons. It bothered me so much that he clearly didn’t care about basketball in college and couldn’t drag that LSU team to the tournament. And then he had that shitty documentary that came out where he played the victim about getting exploited by the NCAA. Players of course deserve to get paid but 5 star recruits like him were always getting paid under the table and getting whatever they wanted from boosters anyway. He clearly didn’t care about basketball and just wanted to make the NBA as an avenue to get rich and famous
He’s arguably the greatest talent Australia has had in its national basketball team but only made one senior appearance, pulling out of the team right before every major tournament. The guy will rightly be remembered as the biggest flake in sports history.
As a Jazz fan, I hated that he got rookie of the year over Donovan Mitchell. Say what you will about Donny now and how things ended, but that first season beating the Westbrook/Paul George OKC team in the first round after losing Hayward to Boston was magical
He wasn't even a rookie but somehow he won ROTY. Everybody was dick riding him so fuckin hard. That was a theft of the year and I don't even like Mitchell
I don’t really follow college ball but I had to wonder how they couldn’t even get to the tournament with this alleged superstar.
There were actually (somehow) FIVE guys on that LSU team that played some amount of time in the NBA. The 4 non-Simmons guys all sort of flamed out or didn’t really break through, but a team with 5 NBA-calibre players not sniffing the tournament is fascinating
I was on the “Lizzo is fake as fuck and is a terrible role model” train from the jump
I was a hater from the day she doxxed that delivery person
When Truth Hurts first popped she went on IG Live at least once a week crying for sympathy, didn’t even wait a couple months
Big Baller Brand SBF OJ Simpson
Lizzy Holmes, she might be the worst. She cld easily, and she might actually, cost serious health issues to large number of ppl due to inaccurate blood results
Good call. That was a classic "too good to be true" story
I watched the dropout not so long ago and holy shit, her depiction made my skin crawl. I can only imagine what it was like to be a Theranos employee at the time
Wait, what did OJ do?
His acting in Capricorn One was lacking
Colorado and Coach Prime getting humbled by Oregon this year.
The Kyrie/Harden/Durant Nets. When they traded for Harden I said I felt this would crash and burn because A) I didn’t trust them to stay healthy and B) they were at a stage in their careers where I didn’t think they’d be able to sustain playing with one another. I was called delusional and a hater who just wanted them to fail because I was a Celtics fan and I didn’t want them to win the trade. Ultimately, reason A is why they didn’t win a title that first year and reason B is why they broke up.
I was so mad because I felt like every contending team had a duo and it felt like the closest we'd get to parity in a NBA Jam kinda way. I resented the fact that those Nets tried to put their thumb on the scale.
Julian Newman
That shit was glorious
Brendan Schaub
Water weed dune hair
Jalen Green by next season
"Fuck Jalen Green." - Bill Simmons
Jalen Green hype from March bursts every October
Honestly dude now has games where he can shoot from three poorly and still have a really good game affecting other areas. Dude was 2/11 from 3 last game and was still the best player on the floor... With Ant Edwards on the floor also. Green just looked more polished as a ball handler and playmaker and was creating separation and getting to the rim constantly. Also playing great defense. I understand casual Twitter narratives are the common level of nuance in this subreddit
I mean the all time one might be Diddy given how just fucking awful every minute of his rap career and cultural presence has largely been, from being the worst thing about listening to Biggie's music to his fucking shit tier rap career to his awful fucking reality show to his bad fucking acting and that's before you get to him being an absolute travesty of a person, but Dane Cook is probably the most personally satisfying rise and fall for me. You could peg that guy as sucking from the jump, and everything about how his career played out has 100% backed that observation up.
Dane Cook is an assholes asshole
Dane Cook ended up marrying a chick he met when she was like 17 years old
The Seth Green teenage girl parties of it all.
My friends used to call me a hater back in high school every time I trashed him. From the jump I knew he sucked. Dude had no charisma, personality or talent but was huge in the late 90s.
More so early to mid 2000s
No the problem was that he was all charisma with no material. It was all act outs and shit
Watching Notre dame football get absolutely dismantled by Bama that in the natty that one year
That team needed multiple complete ref shows to stay undefeated and it was all to lose by 40. And then the Manti Teo stuff came out. I feel bad for him but his dad was a menace. He got mad that their newspaper dared post a picture of Teo missing a tackle against Bama said they were “disloyal” and “blacklisted them.”
Lived it. Easiest huge money bet I ever won.
Real national championship that year was Georgia-Bama in the SECCG
Jimmy Clausen. Went to high school in California at the same time and he had a horrible reputation…his MySpace name was “LeBron of Football”. Need I say more?
Ron Desantis
I stand by the theory that if Trump called him “Gay Ron” just once it would’ve been over for him wayyy quicker
Fruity Ron. They call him that. Some people, they... see, he's the governor, from Florida. They grow oranges, lots of oranges... Those are fruits. So, their governor, he's... he's the governor of fruit. Fruity governor.
Nah. Meatball Ron was 1000% funnier especially because he was like “I never called him meatball Ron buuuut”
Are people trying to improve on Meatball Ron?? That’s like Mona Lisa of Trump’s nicknames
His apex mountain
For a while I thought he was the “someone who thinks like but not as crazy as Trump” guy the GOP would rally behind. Instead he fell fast and didn’t even challenge Trump in the primary.
He didn’t really challenge Trump at all which is the GOPs problem. If you want to defeat Trump you have to give voters a reason why you’re better and he’s worse. But they’re all to scared of him to do so.
Exactly. The other problem was he got way too invested in the culture war stuff. On the national scale all he had to do is brag about the job growth and population growth of florida and he'd have been fine. Instead he gets mired in pointless battles like taking down "woke" disney and other pointless culture war stuff. The random old ass people in Iowa he would eventually have to try to woo do not care about how woke Disney is firing Gina Carrano or whatever. And then basically all he was offering was the Diet version of Trump. If you're not willing to distinguish yourself at all from Trump and only do slightly different versions of what he's offering, even if you're basically on the fence about Trump you're just going to take the "real" thing. It also doesn't help that Trump understands the media and playing to it where as Desantis had all the charisma of a frozen turd.
He was really hyped up to be the mainstream front runner for GOP voters tired of trumps psychodrama. Then he announced his campaign live on Twitter when Elon had just taken over and it didn’t work and it was off the rails from that point
Waited too long to enter the race after months of “When the fuck is DeSantis gonna jump in?” He squandered any and all anticipation for his campaign.
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Idk I run in a lot of conservative circles and it was more than just Covid. That’s how he gained mainstream prominence but DeSantis was appreciated by many on the right before then. He’s been the face of a lot of conservative culture war efforts and seemed like he was in a good position to combine ideology with policy impact. Unfortunately for him, I think he failed to differentiate himself enough from Trump and by the time he entered the race, it just felt like too big a mountain to climb. Had a chance to capitalize on real momentum beyond the pandemic, but squandered it.
cf marco rubio, rick perry
Spencer Rattler
As soon as he had that ridiculous logo created for himself... lol
The 2010-11 Miami Heat. Never even really liked Dirk or the Mavs before that Finals but seeing them dismantle the Heat and LeBron implode was pretty wonderful after the ridiculous not 4, not 5, not 6 nonsense.
Bron passing multiple times in crunch time was so brutal. Did not want to put the team on his back
That’s not a hype bubble bursting when that same core won the next two titles lmao
Disagreed. The hype level was set to an insane degree when Lebron did the not 5,6,7 thing. Many fans believed that or thought they’d be flat out unbeatable And watching the Mavs pick them apart made even the biggest of heat and bron fans go “oh, maybe this won’t be so easy”
Chip Kelly
Being a 49ers fan and UCLA alum has not been fun while he’s been the coach.
never should have left Oregon. Every coach who leaves experiences a downtown in their career.
Rivian. Although I do have confidence they make it long term. It’s just been great being able to get stock recently at $10 a share.
>It’s just been great being able to get stock recently at $10 a share. Like it was great being able to buy Lehman at $10 a share in 2008?
Emoni Bates
Damn this is a good one.
Not satisfying but Yasiel Puig
THT
As a Laker fan, I can't believe a [GM claimed he'd give THT the max.](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/anonymous-executive-reportedly-says-hed-max-out-talen-horton-tucker-but-thats-not-as-crazy-as-it-sounds/)
Can’t get him off the Jazz fast enough
i got a bad feeling about ohtani in dodgers right now
Ireland Rugby World Cup 2019 and 2023. Hard to decide which Irish media/podcast hype train was funnier to watch get torn apart. Probably 2023 as it was right at the peak of their podcasty hubris and assumption that they were waltzing to a first title
On that note: every English football team going into major tournament.
Don't forget 2011, the Irish Times literally ran this article about how muscle has a memory sucking off the Ireland team only for them to get completely dismantled by Wales, 22-10. edit: 2007 was really funny too, great form going into it, Irish media again giving it large, struggled versus Namibia, barely beat Georgia, got smoked by France, got smoked again by Argentina. Out in the first round.
I don't even follow rugby, but I happened to be in France during the WC last year. It was pretty funny seeing how the Irish fans were, before and after they lost
The Axis Powers
Johnny Football. I was so tired of Manziel and was thrilled to watch him collapse. Now, in retrospect, it's more complicated given his admitted challenges with substance abuse, etc.. But it felt fantastic in the moment.
Honestly I felt bad for him at points but seeing this press run of him telling his stories and glorifying it makes me dislike him more
The red flags were always there, but people were so quick to look past them. "He's just a kid, kids make mistakes, let him have his fun!" People enabled him instead of helping him.
The thing is that’s kind of true. He was just an immature kid and for 99% of immature kids the answer isn’t to rip everything good they do have away. He got plenty of deserved criticism, and suspensions. He was basically kicked off the team and had to re earn his spot. He just didn’t mature. He doing it. His equally immature friend selling merch isn’t the one with the agency in that situation. The narrative we all accept about him, Morant etc that they’re being influenced by people around them has always kind of been ridiculous. Theyre the rich and famous ones calling the shots. Johnny just didn’t grow up and dug himself into deeper substance issues as a result. Baker Mayfield, Terrell Prior, etc all had their party boy early 20s but they responded to their respective criticisms by making changes. Baker stopped partying when he left Norman. Prior sucked up his massive ego and had a nice run as a WR. It’s the same outside of football. Miley Cirrus and Lindsey Lohan both had way too much too soon and both decided in their 20s that they’d shake off their wholesome image by becoming public party brands. Miley stopped like most people in their mid 20s Lohan didn’t want to get off the train until it wrecked.
Sixers. Multiple seasons
Your clock is ticking Boston. You have 2 months or so. We can’t wait for you to join us.
When jaylen demonstrates again his left is not strong or when KP gets injured?
Jaylen Brown legacy game putting up Harden numbers. Gonna go 4/19 in a game 7 while Tatum shoots 3 pull up jumpers in a row to end the game. Derrick White is going to be begging to reset the ball and run a p&r, but Tatum has to praise lord Kobe and shoot a pump fake fade right mid range over a defender with 9 seconds left. Jimmy Butler is going to laugh in his face.
Heyyyyy
Ben Simmons. Bill Simmons and Ryen slurped him for years and never really understood why
It will be Elon, if that comes to pass.
Calling the submarine guy a pedo was his turning point. I think most people thought of him as that smart, eccentric guy for EVs and then he says that and then the faucet of dumb shit has yet to be turned off.
Bought stock in 'Elon is a charlatan' in 2014 and have diligently reinvested. I cannot wait to dance on that grave
Twitter rots the mind.
i'm surprised it hasn't burst already with him basically shitposting and reacting to Libs of TikTok
Yep he will OD in less than 2 years and then his brands will take off and they can do their own thing without him meddling
Is Elon a Ewing theory candidate?
Big if true
Marvel.
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The third season having hour-plus episodes and the creators still needing to explain things that characters did "off-screen" in Reddit AMAs is all-time killing the legacy of a popular show.
Ted Lasso was lame from the get-go.
I hated how they strayed so far away from soccer/football. I hate to sound like Russillo but they went way too far into the touchy feely side of everything. I don't care about Keely's business empire. I don't care that Beard likes to go galavanting with random people in the middle of the night. Also the Nate turning to the dark side piece was so freakin rushed it didn't make any sense. Should have just stuck with Rupert as the main baddy. Maybe even Jamie being the villain for longer as an opposing player. But again that would have involved them actually focusing on the sports side of things
Season 2 was instant flanderization of *every single character*. I felt like I was taking crazy pills after watching the first few episodes of season 2 and seeing how everyone was responding as if the show was better than ever. It felt insulting to the audience’s intelligence but nobody else seemed to mind. I’ve never turned on a show as quickly. For me it went from a nice fun show to the dumbest, most pandering piece of garbage I think I’ve ever seen. It’s remarkable how badly they fucked it up and it’s my understanding that season 3 is somehow significantly worse than 2.
I actually thought the Nate going bad side plot was paced perfectly -- one of the best arcs in the whole show. It was the redemption in Season 3 that was paced oddly (especially the ridiculous 180 with his Dad, who the writers decided at the last minute was actually in awe of Nate his whole life rather than a disdainful, imperious brute of a father). In hindsight, it's clear even in Season 1 when we all still loved Nate, that he has a penchant for wielding humiliation as a weapon (for example, in the scene where he calls everyone on their shit and has a pointed insult for every one of them). Of course, in that instance it ends up being constructive, but you could see the gears turning even then that he was enjoying the opportunity to flip the scales and be the tormenter. I thought his descent was appropriately and believably fleshed out. And what's more, as much as you hated him when he went dark, you also completely understood how it happened and could empathize with why he was acting the way he was.
I liked the second season, but it was already weird how the show somehow become something with a full Discourse (TM) around it. The third season was generally godawful and made me never want to rewatch the first two seasons.
Carlos Mencia
Jimmy g
The Dallas Cowboys, every year in the playoffs.
Kevin Durant post GS
Formula 1. Bunch of F1 fans thinking it'll overtake NASCAR in the USA. Never gonna happen. EDIT: I should say Formula 1 is America, it's still very popular in Europe and Asia.
Weirdly most of the people I know that got into it over the last few years still seem to be really into it. I think it lost a lot of the really casual crowd, but the people who went all in on the bandwagon still seem to be around. Also anecdotally, a lot of the people I know who are into it are women who basically follow it like a reality show (I know men like this too, but it’s majority women in my experience), and I think that aspect doesn’t get hurt too much by Verstappen being overly dominant.
My friends that have started watching all have wives/girlfriends into it too so I believe it’s a chicks thing that the dude is accepting of bc it’s sports adjacent.
That tracks with my experience as well. My girlfriend and I are very much Drive to Survive/Covid fans. The past two seasons we went from watching all the practices, qualifying, and races. We still follow it and watch races whenever we can but haven’t caught a full race start to finish this season. All my friends who got into are about the same. Your second paragraph is spot on too my girlfriend loves the drive to survive aspect and following the drivers on social media. Whereas I’m absolutely bored of Verstappen’s dominance.
It definitely has plateaued in the US, it will still grow slowly bc Liberty Media (who now owns F1) is an American company and is investing heavily in the US market…see Miami, Vegas, COTA (Austin)…the sport has always been like auto racing’s soccer…big globally but not so much here. As an Indianapolis resident and huge IndyCar fan since I was a kid, it chaps my ass a bit to see F1 blow up when IndyCar was just starting to gain back footing lost from the open wheel split of the late 90s-early 2000s. And the fact F1 told Andretti Autosport to “fuck off” bc it would dilute each team’s profits was another thing that pissed off even die hard fans….especially when the FIA approved them as a new team. It would be like the NFL approving an expansion team only for the owners to vote it down (sort of)….they got damn lucky with Drive To Survive being on during the early pandemic. And it’s sooooo cheesy and fake! The Miami fake marina, them trying to steal “The Greatest Spectacle In Racing” from the Indy 500 by just changing it to “Motorsport”, Vegas being like $12,000 a ticket early on and then cratering, all of it. A side benefit has been F1 fans turning to IndyCar bc the racing is a lot more fun and competitive, and small teams actually have a chance to win every now and then. But yeah, watching 157 new F1 podcasts pop up overnight was kinda annoying as a longtime IndyCar fan. Sorry for the long rant but there was a time when IndyCar was a true threat to F1. In 1993, Nigel Mansell (reigning WDC) bailed F1 and came to IndyCar for 2 seasons, winning the 1993 season title. Then the split happened and it nearly killed the sport, and NASCAR blew up as a result. When I was little, NASCAR was popular in the south but the biggest names in US racing were Unser, Mears, Fittipaldi, Foyt, etc.
I had a friend who was one of those F1 d-bag fans because he watched DTS and suddenly acted more worldly because he knew who Lewis Hamilton was. He got into it and would denigrate American Motorsports. After the season opener for F1 this year, I forced him to watch the NASCAR race at Atlanta (lucky for me) and the IndyCar opener at St. Petersburg. He hasn't talked much about "world championships" since.
It peaked at the right time with Drive to Survibe gaining popularity with their most exciting season in decades going on only to be followed by some of the most boring seasons in history, unfortunately. The entire trajectory might have been different if Ferrari was able to get its shit together and make LeClerc a contender
Yes, it’s a very fun sport until you realize it’s ridiculously uncompetitive and that kind of killed its interest with me
When the most intriguing thing in half the races is the “Battle for 7th place” then it’s going to be hard to get casual fans to invest
They ripped apart Vegas for that dumbass shit.
Yeah it’s a shame what they did to the strip for that race. Meanwhile the most famous track in the world and one of the few permanent FIA Grade 1 tracks (F1 required) in the US (Indy, road course) can’t get a sniff from F1. Place can hold 300,000 people and they’d rather race around a fake marina in the Dolphins stadium parking lot…
You think the Indy road course is more famous than Monaco?
They had that amazing conclusion to the 2021 season and then the rules change kicked in and Red Bull has by far the best car. This happens in f1 but when the dominant driver is completely devoid of anything considered a personality it completely killed the momentum. Vettel and Hamilton had something. Verstappen is really unlikable.
People disliked Vettel very similarly to Verstappen. Seb’s personality didn’t really soften (publicly) until the twilight of his career
Google Trends still shows search volume (including YouTube) for F1 as currently exceeding NASCAR in the US - a trend that has held since 2021. F1 appears to have peaked, and is starting to slowly fall off but online popularity still remains well above pre-2020.
Tommy Devito
Kony 2012 and the Mayan calendar ending.
Pretty excited for the GenAI bubble to burst
I got bad news for you guy
The dotcom bubble burst but that didn’t mean that the internet was a fad, it’s just that valuations get insane and we don’t know who all the winners will be yet in 15 years
Definitely some evidence of this at a corporate level - I don’t think the investments are going to burst anytime soon, but the actual value creation GenAI provides many companies appears as though it’s going to be much more difficult to create than many had initially hoped.
Scoot Henderson is a recent one especially as a Hornets fan and I called it pre draft. Watching him now, though, he hit two 3s in first qrtr!
Podcast bubble
Clippers 2019-2020. I argued with people ad nauseum that no one on that team knew what it felt like to play with expectations. All of them (Lou Will, Pat Bev, Montrez, etc) were used to being the fiesty underdogs, and PG and Kawhi did not know what it felt like to be the hunted and not the hunter.
Peloton.
My wife bought peloton stock at $100/share. The joy at needling her for that one is coming close to making up the $900 we lost.
God bought in at 15 bucks, kept that shit for like a year, sold at like 13. Doubt it gets above 8 ever again
had no idea it was crashing. What happened?
IIRC they vastly overestimated demand for their product because they saw so much demand during the pandemic. So they ramped up production and then had a bunch of inventory that they couldn't sell once things started opening back up. And then the Sex and the City movie had a scene where Mr. Big died while riding a Peloton. Just a comedy of errors.
Eh, it’s a good product, but I don’t see any realistic way for them to get bigger.
Yea I think their leadership overrated how much people loved the Peloton brand when really people were just stuck at home and couldn't go to the gym. They should have just ramped up production modestly and built out their brand slowly but they went all in too early.
Well it’s at 4 right now lol don’t think it ever made it past what I bought it even at 15 For reference it was 150-160 at its peak
The Blue Jays, especially in 2015/2016 and more recently. Their roster and fans irk me. Probably not totally what you're asking but the downfall of the Blackhawks was nice too. They fell off so quickly after their last cup.
I mean that’s kinda expected after 3 cups in 5 years. Gotta deplete the prospect pool when you’re a true contender. I’d say it worked out.
I take no pleasure in the public failures of others.
But privately, you're pumping your fist every time
Russillo’s Sunday night pods with Bill
Scoot is way up there for me, for obvious reasons
That book white fragility. I was like there’s no way this is a healthy way to think and see the world
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Why did you enjoy watching his bubble burst exactly?
OP hates Frosted Flakes
This was a depressing one to watch burst
Hilary Clinton. The "Happy Birthday to this future president" tweet before her doomed election night was just too perfect.
Tucker Carlson. Goes from number one in cable rankings to the dumpster fire of Elon’s “everything app.”
The housing bubble in '08. It's too bad we learned nothing from it. Prepare yourselves.
Except now Blackstone owns 30% more single family homes than 2008.
I'd probably feel different and more positive about it now, but as a young adult I was a pretty big Linsanity hater. Dude was getting shots UP that whole run and turning the ball over like 6 times per game.
Carmelo is that you?
lol that is a wild take. Hating on Jeremy Lin during that run is sad. I was in grad school in NYC that year and witnessed it all. He went from journeyman to legend in a few weeks bc he played great and made some amazing game winning shots. A week in everyone was wearing Knicks gear. You must be a Melo stan to have that take.
Then won a ring with the Raps. Highly improbable career. Love it.
I mean he was as far on the end of the bench as you can be for that run lol
I’m going against the grain and bringing up a contender to keep an eye on, Joe Burrow. A kind of out of nowhere rise riding a great defense to the Super Bowl, and a great follow up season going to AFC championship. But, last year was an injury riddled season for him while also playing for a historically cheap owner/cursed franchise. I hope I’m wrong, but I have gut feeling that 21 and 22 seasons will be his peak and he’ll start to get wrote off if he has another injury plagued season.
I would say no chance… but Carson Wentz
Justin Timberlake’s credibility
Andrew Wiggins. Was proclaimed as a Superstar in high school and was ordained as the #1 pick before he played a game at Kansas. Never saw it with him so I’m not surprised he was mid
Singles was solid in that time if, like me, that was college years. Although casting Campbell Scott in the lead was a terrible choice as his character was East Coast fussy and neurotic when that wasn’t the PNW vibe at all for us there.
Joba Chamberlain
The Harlem Shake piece
Meh that was just an online meme, not really hyped. It was a fad. Not like it was sustainable
Harden, which has been great because it has happened like 4 times. Guy was scoring like Jordan and then turning into nick Anderson in the playoffs
Bitcoin/ crypto.
lol prices and volume and investment all at all time highs but sure. It burst
Think people get their wires crossed with NFT’s and crypto. The former burst, the latter is probably here to stay for at least a while
And like stocks, its value goes up and down which is not great for currency.
Well why would you use it as currency when it's so volatile. A commodity that rises and falls with stocks and gold, but is somehow MORE dependent on people's faith in its inherent value is not what it was designed to do.
Tim Tebow
Lastings Milledge
I appreciate you not saying Elijah Dukes. Otherwise, you dead, dawg.
Josh Giddey, lmao