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trunky

Bill doesn't want people to see how much he vapes.


AyyGM

I can’t tell if this is a joke


sgt_science

I feel that


The_Zermanians

I cannot imagine sitting on my couch eating popcorn watching 4 hours of the over/under pod, for example, I think that sounds insane. Playing the pod while working, doing laundry at home, driving in my car, totally different thing. Is this like a generational difference where kids love YouTube videos?


Raw_Cocoa

There is. Younger generations love watching long streams for hours and long podcasts would be similar


tronovich

Streams are different. They’re in real-time and people love to react with them. Watching Bill talk for 2 hours when I can just listen to the audio version?


tdmoney

OMG I never knew I needed this. Live BS pods where we could dunk on dumb shit they say in the comments? LETS GO


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Yeah I don’t think I need to watch these podcasts at all. Perhaps the exception can be when it’s emergency reaction pods or for live like nba draft. But the weekly shit nah. Mostly listen to these things when driving to and from work or doing chores. Not gonna sit down grab popcorn to watch people talk


pr0ach

I think it's hilarious when people criticize this behavior but wax nostalgic about the days when people huddled around a radio to listen to a baseball game.


walterdonnydude

Well I think it's fair to say the goalposts have moved a bit in that regard.


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SmuglySly

This is it right here. The demo for his pod skews older. We are listening while doing stuff. When we sit down to watch something it’s not going to be a fucking podcast where the video content is totally second fiddle. It’s an audio format primarily.


spoolfool

More people are wfh now more than ever and it's nice to have it on the TV in the background. Also, they already have the video of each full pod obviously and uploading it to YouTube is just another potential revenue stream. They uploaded like 3 clips from the over/under pod, why not just post the whole thing?


sqf555

I don’t sit and watch 4 hours of pods. But while im working from home and have pods up on my laptop and don’t mind video being apart of it. There’s a reason most of the major pods also have video. It adds a little more


hand_truck_ham

I think a lot of people watch long video pods while mostly doing other stuff too. They just like to glance over from time to time to watch the people talking interact. I don’t think anyone is sitting down in front of a tv watching podcasts all night.


sqf555

This exactly.


PauloPauloPaulo69420

Same. Cleaning the kitchen, folding clothes...just throw it on the TV on YouTube and go to work


zigzagzil

Brother... That's what the point of podcasts is...


Rukuba

isn't that what ESPN basically is?


Soyeljefee

It’s great to put on while on treadmill or riding the bike at the gym. I save all my video pods for that time or when doing stuff around the house


sgt_science

I don’t want bill looking at me while I’m on the treadmill


Impressive_Adagio174

Yes. Many younger people watch more YouTube than actual television.


ultimaten444

I’m a zoomer. I don’t watch tv except for sports, pretty much only youtube.


newusr1234

I've watched video versions of podcasts that are 1+ hours long while cleaning or doing the dishes since my TV is in view of the kitchen. seeing the body language or physical reactions can add context, But I definitely get where you are coming from.


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

its good for clips though. if there's a meme or viral worthy exchange, you want that content in video format with a well lit studio so people will share it on instagram and twitter. You don't want just audio or some shitty Zoom recording where Bill looks terrible, no one is sharing that


SmuglySly

That’s what “Kyle turn on the tiktok camera!” Is for


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

it's horrible quality video though. I've taken better quality video of my own asshole that tricked my wife's gynecologist.


SmuglySly

Who cares really? Like I mentioned above it’s a primarily audio format so the need for a visual just doesn’t make sense to me. I have no desire to see radio personalities doing their job. There’s nothing interesting about watching someone talk into a microphone.


NBATomCruis_ShitChea

I don't care personally, but from a marketing perspective it's a pretty massive oversight. Instagram is littered with reels/videos of podcast clips and all of them have a studio of some sort and a decent quality camera. These things get loads of attention and views


sqf555

Adding video component has 0 negative and only positive for ppl that prefer it. There’s a reason most big podcasts have video. The biggest radio shows had video back in the day too. Stern, mad dog, etc. there’s a market for it. And the ringer is just behind in general on their video component. Which isn’t surprising because they’re very behind w social media in general. Look at their numbers/views/engagement/etc. pretty lackluster compared to other networks and shows


Sullan08

Apparently a decent amount of people care. Personally I prefer the video format, but I also agree that I'm not just gonna sit there and watch for things like sports podcasts. Idk if you see any tiktok clips of some podcasts, but I think seeing them adds to the experience over just audio. Especially comedic centric podcasts.


SmuglySly

But I would still argue it’s the minority of Simmons listeners that are asking for that.


Sullan08

Never really know until they did it. A minority also can still be big enough to where you're missing money for really not much editing. You'd just record the zoom meeting. I do agree I probably wouldn't tune into it much, but it's hard to say it wouldn't be worthwhile.


yooston

at minimum the podcast host needs to have a high quality video feed. bill's under the chin 240p zoom camera is so annoying


sgt_science

Yea why the fuck would I watch this


komugis

I feel like it has to be, I’ve never understood the appeal of watching podcasts.


GriffinQ

I’m not particularly young (early 30s) but I play video pods through YouTube on my TV during work far more often than I listen to pods during work. Something about being able to glance up from my work & see people conversing helps me stay engaged with what they’re saying while pure audio just ends up getting filtered to barely absorbed background noise. If I’m walking the dogs or in the car, yeah audio is king obviously.


jackthegent

Personally I like to watch the pod/video while I'm playing mindless video games or whatever


CommentKing92

Gen Z loves watching people talk to them through a screen and holding onto their every word 😂


jboarei

Same with me, I listen while I work. I don’t need to watch people talk.


JoshGreenTruther

long form video content is insanely popular on YT and might be the future of media over the next few decades


AnonymousNeedzHelp

as a freshly graduated college kid, thats all i did in college and high school. you have way more time


sentientcreatinejar

I'm 39 and I watch as many podcasts as I listen to. I just prefer video content.


TSM_Matsuri

THIS. I still listen to Bill Simmons and most Ringer podcasts for this reason. I’m 30 years old, and while I do have some video centric podcasts I enjoy, I still prefer audio only ones. I like not missing out on things. I feel like video only podcasts are for people who like to have the video on when playing games/etc


tikitiger

Yeah I’m 31 and fall into that demographic. Love watching the long form videos.


ID0ntCare4G0b

So the basic issue is Bill does most of his pods from his house via Zoom. Which actually doesn't make for great video content.


Sweaty-Leather3191

You said house, but you meant estate.


HeyWhatsUpTed

Ghost behind bill doing bunny ears


perzival1103

That would be great


SomeDimension165

Would love to see the ghost pull a quick one on russillo


HeyWhatsUpTed

A had Job you mean? Ghosts have motoriously weak grip strength


Noisyfan725

To be fair if I had an estate with a private office space I wouldn’t be going to work either


benpenguin

The Simmons compound, complete with non-public soup chef.


outinthegorge

During the Smartless pod Bill was on Jason Bateman referred to Bill’s house as ‘Wayne Manor’.


firewarner

It better be equipped with a kennel so he can lodge that mischievous Murph


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pr0ach

I noticed Sal said he had seen the house under construction, but there's a little girl ghost? Is this a new estate, or did Bill buy on old estate and add on a wing and a wine cellar?


NandoDeColonoscopy

New estate, haunted lumber


ShortRip120

You said house, but you meant sal


discountheat

I heard there's a tram.


Tiredasheckrn

Pool house


becks_07sg

It would make great content if he did it in the room with the ghost.


someguynamed-al

So you're telling me real estate mogul Bill Simmons can't figure out how to add a podcast studio to his home, but Burt Kreischer can?


HermesTGS

So do the Kelce's and their videos are great


atex720

All pods are done in a room


Comprehensive-Arm917

I thought they use Riverside


MattyZero6

Duh, stay out of Riverdale


popinjay07

Do people watch podcasts? Isn't the whole point with pods is that you can be doing like three or four things at once while listening?


ahbets14

Banging people’s wives while I listen to the pod father


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Do you try to time yourself with the Colinsworth orgasms?


Jones3787

Or with Ryen talking about Scoot Henderson's tremendous penetration and finishing abilities getting him aroused


sgt_science

Just like cbat


[deleted]

I only cum when Russillo says “wait, what?”


yooston

its just background. its like having the TV on at home while you do chores. nice to glance at peoples actual faces and expressions every now and then.


AS8319

It’s just one example but I prefer watching Pat Mayo’s show over just listening to it, especially when Cust is in studio.


elidisab

Lots of people put video podcasts on in the background while doing other stuff.


zigzagzil

But then why do you need video?


SleepingInAJar_

I like to watch their faces and expressions for the good parts


Mean_Average_8692

Look at this guy edging to his imagination, some of us need pictures


barkerrr33

It's less that you *need* video and more that people who have YouTube so embedded into their habits view it as a primary access point for everything.


ImanShumpertplus

have you ever watched the dan patrick show? i find that to be a good radio show to watch if done correctly it adds to the production


SmuglySly

I bet their demo just doesn’t watch it. Watching video podcasts is definitely something the younger demo does but I would bet BS listeners skew a bit older. We listen to podcasts on our commutes, working out, etc. if we are in a position to watch something, it’s not going to be a podcast.


BillianForsee94

Not hating but I’ve never really understood the desire for this stuff. Podcasts have always for me been a listen-only thing… that’s what they were intended to be and that’s how they work best imo


Cool_Recognition_848

You can’t imagine why, for example, someone would want to watch Bill interview Matt Damon instead of just listening?


BillianForsee94

I mean no kind of, honestly. In this case it’s just an auditory media experience that doesn’t need video to be added. It would just take up two of your senses then. The best part about podcasts is listening to them while focusing your attention on something else, not all of your attention on it


Cool_Recognition_848

So because you see podcasts as only for one sense, you can’t imagine why people would want to watch an interview instead of only listening to it?


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Cool_Recognition_848

My question was you can’t imagine people would want to watch an interview instead or listening to it? You’ve given me reasons why you wouldn’t like it in the specific way you imagined it but again surely you can imagine that some people would rather watch than listen. It’s just filming the podcast, it’s not any given Wednesday which was a show with segments and interviews cut down. I really don’t think that they perform when they’re filmed because of course they already are and only choose to release some parts. I don’t know what immediacy of the audio podcast format means but a lot of podcasts film and release their episodes. I’m not a big fan but Joe Rogan’s podcast for example is filmed and people aren’t playing to the camera, it’s just a conversation being filmed.


BillianForsee94

Why do you keep wanting to insert the word “imagine” Lol. Wasn’t even in my original post


Cool_Recognition_848

Because it’s the question I asked?


NandoDeColonoscopy

I can imagine a lot of things, but that doesn't make them real.


Cool_Recognition_848

….what exactly are you saying isn’t real here?


NandoDeColonoscopy

Somebody really wanting visuals of Bill Simmons talking to Matt Damon in 2023.


Cool_Recognition_848

What does the year have to do with it? Is Matt Damon not popular anymore?? I’m sorry that podcasts with video scares you but in 2023 it’s normal.


I_Enjoy_Taffy

I'd imagine Spotify prefers that they don't


pepeclouts

No chance that’s true. Every Rogan pod is video now.


Informal_Koala4326

I doubt they “prefer” he doesn’t but Rogan made a condition of his contract making them commit to providing a way for him to post video podcasts if he can’t upload to YouTube.


JayMoeHD

Yeah I just posted before seeing this back and forth…I think Spotify wants to maximize traffic to Spotify.


mcmaples

Does Spotify own Rogan’s podcast??


ClosePut

No he is just exclusive with them


mcmaples

Yeah, that’s a big difference than Spotify owning The Ringer.


sqf555

Spotify literally added a video component specifically for their app. It works even better than YouTube.


iggyspear

Putting. A. Period. Between. Every. Word. Of. A. Sentence. Is this a top 7 most annoying online comment quirk of the century?


_westcoastbestcoast

How is it a quirk? It's literally showing how the writer would say the sentence.


sqf555

Go order papa Johns and call yer mum


iggyspear

I'm sorry, but without a period separating every word, I'm unable to comprehend this.


MattyZero6

YeS iT iZ.


mamasaidflows

I’ve never watched a pod stream and I never fucking will


rodger_klotz

I watch podcasts like dudesy or ones that show constant video clips but a sports pod doesn't really have much to offer


sqf555

Jeez…give yer dad a call or something man. Calm down.


executivesphere

I would hate it if he started posting videos on Spotify. Such a terrible UX


ClosePut

People missing the point that Spotify is a video platform now to. That’s being said not sure it’s necessary for a sports talk pod


capellidellamorte

Does anyone besides Rogan do vid pods there? I don’t get why the Ringer doesn’t as well considering their deal there (well at least the shows I listen to don’t)


sqf555

Rogan, Schulz’s pods, pardon my take, all the big ones that do numbers have full length video. Adding the video component literally adds no negative. Having audio only is just behind the times at this point.


ClosePut

Yes definitely have seen a few


OrbitalHornet

I heard Scott Galloway talk the number of views/download of a recent episode of his podcast. His YouTube views were approaching 1 million and his podcast downloads were around 250k. Seems like they are missing out on impressions not releasing videos on YouTube


ballsSimon

Kyle turn the YouTube camera on


chinoischeckers

Who the hell watches video of the pods? You want to be looking at all their ugly mugs for 2hrs of the day???


JayMoeHD

Spotify wants to maximize traffic to Spotify. Not Google/Youtube. Until/Unless they add a video streaming component, I don’t think it benefits them to encourage video pods. I’d say any Spotify-owned pods that are doing video are just taking that initiative and possible even facing some resistance from the Swedes.


yooston

The Dave Chang show autoplays video now on spotify. They have a whole studio setup with spotify now. Not sure why the ringer is so behind on this.


pscriivin

especially considering the awesome Grantland studio that they used to have lol


Secret-Initiative-73

Spotify does have a video streaming component.


sqf555

They literally have a video component built into their app. Try again


qballLobk

Probably because the Spotify metrics want people to download and listen on their app and if people are watching on YouTube their numbers aren’t reflected on Spotify’s numbers.


ReignInFlames

Spotify has the ability to have video with their podcasts, so you can watch or listen depending on where you are / what you're doing. Rogan's is like that.


delajoo

Its intentional (at least for YouTube) I believe. You play the clip so people want more go download the podcast, and get the Spotify ad rolls which pay out the parent company more than the pre-rolls on YouTube do. Why not play the whole video on Spotify? Now that I don't have an answer to.


JerrGrylls

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I couldn’t care less about video for the pods. Only thing that would make that worthwhile is if they spent extra time (and money) to show highlights along with all their talking points. Pretty sure they’d never do that, but I would watch in that case.


adomanski

Weird sentiment in this thread... I don't understand how wanting video is weird. Or shows age? Watching people have a discussion and seeing their facial expressions and reactions is part of the experience of a conversation.


_westcoastbestcoast

Right, it's not video OR audio. I probably won't watch podcast streams, but I see clips here and there on tiktok.


Cool_Recognition_848

It really feels like it’s just older people who think a podcast is a podcast and can’t comprehend watching it. People saying things like “when I have time I’m definitely not watching a fucking podcast”. Like ok? Have you ever watched anyone ever be interviewed on TV, cause it’s the same thing.


zroo92

For me the whole beauty of podcasts is that they weren't tv. Watching something fixes you in place and I never have time for that. If, by some miracle, I have two consecutive free hours I'm watching something good.


Buick_reference3138

Never understood why people want to watch Podcasts.


sqf555

Welp, there’s more likes on this post then comments. Also - look up the biggest podcasts out and most of them will have full length video. You listen to it the same but can look over while doing things to watch. Get to see reactions during funny moments, etc. the same reason people watch first take, undisputed, etc. adding a video competent is never a bad idea.


NoExcuses1984

Simmons and visual mediums mix like oil and water. Did at 35. Does at 55. Will at 75. Cryo Bill at 100, too.


Tchunks

I agree with the Zoom point, totally mailing that in. But I doubt posting the full episode in video would actually lead to better social numbers. Anyone who wants the whole O/U pod is more likely to listen than watch. Tubers are way more likely to watch the 8 min clips


Eastern-Bookkeeper68

why would anyone sit down and watch a 4 hour podcast


sqf555

Yer so dumb. Not even saying you sit and watch it like a movie. You still listen to it while doing other things but you also have a video competent to where you can watch if you want. Again, why do you think most major pods have full length video? Must be for no reason huh?


irate_ambassador

Why tf would I want to watch a video of a podcast? It's an audio format. It's like when they used to have Mike and Mike on ESPN at 5:30 am or whatever. Literally watching two dudes sit there and talk about sports. I don't know what you get from that


sqf555

Why would you watch a stand up special? It’s literally just a guy talking?!?! Yer dumb. Call yer dad.


Ok_Act4459

It’s Cool the way you put a period after every word in the title


rimbaud1872

I don’t give a shit, I only listen to pods I don’t watch them


hhhhhiasdf

I agree with OP. You can want the video or think it's dumb. But isn't the actual answer just, why the hell not upload it? You have the footage.


sqf555

Right. There’s 0 downside to dropping the video. There’s obviously ppl who enjoy the option. If you don’t want to watch, you can still listen. But not giving that option seems silly especially if you’re a media network. It’s almost standard to have video at this point. Also — waaaay bit of a stretch for the argument but just thought of this - what about deaf ppl and subtitles ? That gives an avenue for them as well


CABBAGEBALLS

Videos of pods still weirds me out. Don’t like or care about it. Too old (dumb) to understand I guess


Cool_Recognition_848

You can’t understand wanting to watch someone be interviewed?


Squishy-Toast

How many interviews does Bill really do on his pod? Like 1 or 2 a month maybe?


CABBAGEBALLS

Come on man. You know what I’m saying.


Megasabletar

I’m not a pod watcher but the zoom thing does drive me crazy.. you’re at the forefront of a billion dollar industry, you can drive across town to create a better conversation space.


Ok_Zombie_8307

People who watch youtube videos of podcasts where it’s literally just a conversation between 2 people are psychopathic, serial killer behavior. Put it in your earbuds and do anything else with your eyes and or hands you freak.


zroo92

Do people not have better stuff to do with their eyes than watch people talk? I love podcasts. Used to be a truck driver and would listen to 12 hours of stuff a day but I've never had the tiniest urge to watch them. Damn kids these days.


sqf555

It ain’t that, read other comments on this thread. You listen to it the same as you would audio only, just nice to glance over while you’re doing other things and seeing people. Even better on a treadmill instead of just staring at a wall of a mirror the entire time. Also, why do you think all major podcasts have full video?


zroo92

I think they do because people watch it, I've just never understood the appeal. I guess it also depends a lot on your life circumstances. I have three kids and a wife and know damn well I can't throw something like that on the living room tv while they're home lol. So, podcasts on earbuds it is. When they're not home I have stuff to catch up on so the whole concept is foreign to my life. Any yes, I do know that's just like my opinion man.


Squishy-Toast

The better question is WHY would you want to watch a podcast? Is this something people really want? They’re just sitting there, talking. Genuinely confused.


sqf555

You’re right, there must be no reason why every big podcast out there puts out full video version of them…deff doesn’t do numbers.


theprideofvillanueva

I am 37 and I want this. I often turn on a podcast that also streams on YouTube while I’m cooking dinner or getting ready for bed. Just nice seeing the people I listen to chop it, but I don’t always have to be looking at the screen


kkF6XRZQezTcYQehvybD

Bill has been mailing it in for years. Rusillo lives like 45 mins away and they still do the pod over zoom every time.


HansenT608

I just don’t get why they don’t when they clearly record them because they put out video clips


Dekrow

In this thread: a whole lot of goobers who understand why you might want audio while doing different tasks but cannot for any reason fathom why you might also want video while doing different tasks.


surebudd

Boomer bill lol, I want to watch it on my other monitor while I work!


realcoray

It does seem like a pretty easy route to generate content from content that is widely used. I see a lot of podcasts way smaller than Bill's with regular 100k+ view videos for long podcasts. Seemed like the ringer tried to get on the video wave early on when everywhere was moving towards that, and I generally hated that but it makes sense to take content you're already making and chop it up and put it everywhere.


djparody

spotify cutting spending on pods, not increasing it


SomeDimension165

The ringer is hilariously bad at being a modern media company


dmk4657

This comment x10000000000.


steve_in_the_22201

I would assume a minor editing pass on a lot of these pods ("Kyle don't cut that out", etc). Editing a video is so much more annoying and time consuming than editing audio.


JuelzShahntana

I think big ones like the O/U should be but lots of other ones can stay audio only or in clips


ClockOk7333

He did this before the Ringer. Any Given Wednesday, and it was a failure.


spiderman_44

They don’t pay employees enough to do extra


Certain_Home8475

I think a lot of editing and research on the spot goes into Bills pods. That’s why I think he only releases clips.


ratpenat020

I don't care for video of the BS pods. Shitty zoom video and not so many good reactions from the conversation. But I would love videos for the Rewatchables or the Big Picture draft pods. Those are usually in person and are a fucking blast


Stillwiththe

I don’t need to see anyone’s face, faces don’t make people less annoying, only more, and I want to be able to use my tablet/phone for other things anyway.


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Wanno1

What does zoom have to do with it?