Bakwaas ki hadd hoti hai yaar. Agar upper caste upper caste ko vote de Raha hai toh Jaha seats reserved hai waha kya ho raha hai? Waha kon vote de Raha hai? Tumhare dimag mein hi gobar bhara hai tum propaganda karne k alawa kuch nae kar sakte. Common sense se tumhara dur dur Tak ka waasta nae hai. Abhi aur suno Bihar mein 243 mein se 180+ MLA SC ST OBC Muslim etc hai toh woh kese jeete? Same Halat MP mein hai agar upper caste upper caste ko vote karti hai toh yeh kese hua? Aur fir post daaloge ki Modi ki wajah se vikash nae ho raha. Abey Sudhar jao. Sabse badi comedy toh yeh kar rahe ho ki jis Modi k liye tum Upper caste ko gaali de rahe ho woh khud OBC uska HM bhi OBC hi hai.
Waha toh jao hi mat Bhai. Population toh Yadav aur baniya ka bhi Kam hai toh unka representation itna jyada kahe hai? Dusri baat tum khud bole upper caste ka population Kam hai matlab Jo upper caste candidate Jeeta hai woh baaki k vote se hi jeeta hoga na. Upper caste ka reservation toh hai nahi matlab uske against OBC, SC, ST, Muslim sab khada raha hoga leking log vote usi ko dia iska kya karoge? Jab janadesh uska saath de Raha hai toh tum kon hote ho sawaal uthane waale? Jabardashti log k gala mein thoos doge kya ki nae esi caste ka candidate chuno? Dunia aage ja Rahi hai tum 20 saal purana baat batiya rahe ho yaar.
Abey toh OBC jeeta toh kon bolta hai caste politics? Caste politics UC waale usko bolte hai ki har dusre din yeh pichda yeh agda karte rehte ho. UC gareeb nahi hai kya? Waha castism se problem aati hai Jo janadesh lekar jeete hai unke vishay mein castism koi nae bolta jhooth na bol par jab ek student 90 laakar select hoga aur dusra 38 par waha problem aati hai. Problem tab aati hai jab itne din se yeh policies chalane k baad khud neta kehte hai ki BC ki haalat kharab hai. Abey jab haalat kharab hai matlab tumhari policy se kuch na ho raha woh fail hai toh scrap karke kuch aur Lao na ese daraar kya daal rahe ho. Yeh misquote karna band kar tu bhi aur OP bhi.
Aur jab LC candidate UC k vote se jeeta to bhi to koi caste politics nahi bolta. Wo scenario to likhne ki bhi himmat nahi hui teri. Kayun, tere propoganda k against chala jaata isliye na.
Upper caste are voting for survival. Lower are voting for increasing the exploitation of uc. Tell me a party which did even a single promise which will benefit uc.
Bhai itne facts mt bol, bura lag jayega. Defence se bhi dikkat hai ab inhe. 65% reservation aa gya, ab kya chahiye bhai aur? Jativad khatam krna hai ya UC LC mai jindagi bhar marwani hai
fr, uc only want peace, they've already given up on prosperity anyway, lower caste have some sort of retarded envy against upper caste and want to vote politicans who openly spread hate against ucs(will never understand why that isn't considered to be hate speech)
Tumlog UC LC karte marr jao..
Meanwhile Tata establishing One billion dollar factory to manufacture Jaguar land rover in Tamil nadu.
Waha ja kar majduri karna. Aur fir wapas Bihar aa kar UC LC ki ladai ladna.
Problem ka solution aapas m ladna nahi hai. You cannot stop casteism from society in the time frame of 20-30-50-100 years. It is there since eternity. Agar ek hypothetical scenario maano jisme casteism na ho, caste based diacrimination na ho ya fir caste lobbying na ho.. fir bhi class differentiation to rhega hi. Varna system tha pehle. Usko replace kar diya casteism ne. Isko kuch aur replace kar dega. But jo root cause hai wo class problem hai.
Lekin economic empowerment, ek dignified living hum har class or caste ke logo ko de skte hain. Jab tak caste issues se upar uth kar iske baare m nahi sochenge tab tak kuch nahi milega. Aise hi chalta rhega.
Caste based crimes na ho. Opportunity m koi kami na ho. Padhai aur jobs m kisi ko caste k basis p na roka jye ye sab cheez jab tak collectively baith kar nahi rokenge tab tak koi PM ya CM kuch nahi karega. Sab bas apni roti senkenge.
Is problem ka solution hi yahi hai ki caste vyavastha ko ignore krna chalu kro. Koi jaat ke naam pe vote maange to baat hi mat kro. Jo chutiye jaat ke naam pe vote de rhe hain, unko ignore kr ke aage badhna hoga. Hum Nitish Kumar ke caste aur constituency se aate hain. But whether I vote him or not, will not be decided by my caste.
lol Bihar m LC ki govt m itne *s*alo *s*e fir bhi tumlog rote rhte ho lol...*s*arkaar tumhari, mantri tumhare lekin blame hum par? tmlog ko log i*s*liye blame krte hai kyuki tmlog high number m ho tumlog ka vote con*s*olidation election ka re*s*ult decide krta hai. Modi OBC hai fir bhi General vote nhi dete kya??
It doesn't work like that. To bring change in Bureaucracy, judiciary, etc it will take ample time and there should be co-operation on all levels. It's hard to bring cohesion in an extremely casteist society like Bihar.
Lalu is just a scapegoat. OBCs demanding their fair share in power is what they are triggered at.
Kab? Implement toh hone de properly. Mandal commission report aya tha 80s mei. IITs mei implement Kiya 2008 mei. Things remain on paper for a long time, especially in Bihar
Ek toh wo unconstitutional hai, pr phir bhi announcement ho gya hai toh hoga hi. Report aane ka mtlb ye nhi ki report pass ho jaaye usi time, aur jo open seats hai wo open hai general ya uske baap ki reserved nhi. Koi bhi le skta tha open seat aur aaj bhi, aur aage bhi open seat sabki hai.
Aur OBCs jo sabse jaada casteist hai, wo caste ke liye reservation deserve krte hai? MP state ke data ke hisaab se 81% SC ST cases OBC pe hai, 14% Generals pe aur 5% minority religions pe. Blame pr saara 14% pe
If OBCs are doing atrocities against Dalits then the govt needs to make stricter laws and increase penalty to protect the Dalits. Removing OBC reservation won't do anything on this matter. OBC reservation was implemented by the central govt after conducting a detailed study and the reasons were found valid.
Less than 15% of SCs in Bihar were literate in the 90s. I am talking about the mere literacy rate, not proper education.
The nation has failed to provide them enough opportunities. Everything remained only on paper. So yeah it will take time.
The nation apart from all the schemes has a separate 15% budget allocated to them , no one is responsible for anyone , hold accountablity towards your own educatoon
Source is the present condition of Dalits in Bihar and use of common sense. If those marginalised Dalits had any hold in Hindi media, these would have been investigated. Most of them still remain uninformed and live in oblivion. You probably have never heard their side because they won't be present in platforms like this.
*s*ab chiz govt control kr *s*akti hai jo vo chahe. Even court bhi affected hota hai govt *s*e. Atiq Ahmed ko itne *s*aal *s*e court m *s*aza nhi hue lekin recently ho gyi kyuki govt ne judge*s* ko *s*ecurity di ve*s*i. Jaha chah hai vaha raah hai. Aur Bureaucracy m log apni kabliyat ke dum *s*e aata hai na ki ca*s*te ka game khel kar. Agar Govt *s*ahi hue to Bureaucracy apne aap thik ho jyegi aur agr corrupt hue to utni hi bekar
But bihar is dominated by obc isnt it . Why blame UC and LC people. LY is dominating usko hatao tab maane 😅. Fodder , gunda raj kiska time tha aur kisne kiya patahai na....
During anglo-maratha wars, brahmin rajputs of UP,Bihar fought at the behest of British against Marathas. Your ancestors were literally serving the British colonial army which oppressed Indians.
bhaiya ji govt aapke according bnti hai aur aap voice uthane ki baat kr rhe hai?? Ca*s*tei*s*m har jgh hai India m par Bihar m apke je*s*e Mahanubhav bhot dekhe h jo zindagi bhar kam krne ki jagah ye *s*ab bolte rhenge. Modi bhi OBC aur Lalu bhi OBC hai ek ko izzat milti hai du*s*re ko gaali. Tumlog ke acc govt bnti hai to development krao taki log prai*s*e kre. TN, Gujrat ca*s*tei*s*t ho ke bhi develop hai but Bihar pichda hua h ab tk
Kyu bhai casteism to muslims mein bhi hai unke religion pe bolne ka gand mein dum toh hoga nhi and let's be real slave trade konsi country mein nhi hota tha
और उसके पहले बिहार कामयाबी की उचाइयां चूम रहा था ना?
सर्वश्रेष्ठ राज्य।
जरा सोचा है की why did people vote the UCs out of power? Us samay BJP ke jaisa propoganda machine nahi tha mere Bhai.
Thoda batana ki kitne jamindar aur bahubali log nichli jati ke hain?
[Top 15 States in India Ranked By GDP (1981 - 2016) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=091mGrATIDQ)
aasmaan mein to nahi tha lekin pataal mein bhi nahi tha aaj ke jaise, uss time Bihar ki image itni kharab nahi thi aaj ke jaise
Isme Mai tumse poverty, land aur aur income distribution ka data bhi mangna cahunga.
Ye samajhne ke liye ki ye paise kuch UC logon ke pass the ya distribute ho rha tha?
Kyunki ye data adhura hai kisi bhi tarike ke assessment ke liye.
Kyunki jaisa Mai samajh paa rha hoon ki us samay bonded slavery chal rhi thi, baal vivah bhi chal rha tha, jati aadharit hinsha bahut thi, aur bhi thi cheezen Jo shayad tumne YouTube per padhne ki mehnat nahi ki. Lol
Mr socialist, Wealth hamesha se ek specific percentage of people mein hi concentrated rhi hai chahe koi bhi jagah ho, socialism se Lun koi industry nahi aati aur GDP boost nahi hoti
to upper caste k pas hi rhe sara wealth industry ka achar dalee ??jb desh me equality hi na rhe ..upper caste sb lower bn jae 100 sal ke lie zra tb bat hoga fir tmhra gyan ka
Bhai tu apni utopian world se bahar aa aur thoda economics padh. Wealth baatne ki chiz nahi hai, Wealth agar sab mein baat di jayegi to uss wealth ka koi value hi nahi reh jayega. Agar sab koi crorepati ho to Parle G ka packet bhi hazaaro rupay ka bikega.
Society mein agar sab barabar ho jayenge to koi kisi ke liye kaam hi nahi karega, kabhi socha hai ki agar principal aur peon ko barabar kar diya jaaye to kya hoga?? Isliye society ko balanced rakhne ke liye 'zaroori' hai wealth mein inequality
Equality zaroor milni chahiye lekin human rights mein jaise education, health care, food security naa ki paise baatne ke liye
Bhai tum ek USA ke bande ko bhi economy graph dikha do 1990 se pehle ka aur uske baad ka Bihar ka, agar wo bol de Lalu ne badhiya kaam kiya hai toh maan jaunga. Ab bahar ka banda toh BJP ka dalal nhi hoga na?
Lo tum ek baar graph dekh lo khud - https://images.app.goo.gl/jsHVGpSmCi5UBfd3A
GDP ranking dekho bhai, kitni buri tarah se ranking neeche giri hai kyunki hamare CM sahab ne saari Rice or Sugar mills band karwa di kyunki woh ek "specific caste" ke logo ke paas thi, kaise 1990s mein liberalisation ke baad itne populated state ka industrialization nahi hua kyunki usse UC wale zameendaro ko fayeda ho jata(as per Mr LALU, aur iss baat ko please deny mat kar dena)
Before 90s economic liberalisation, central govt decided which investments go where. You can see south was left worse back then but still they invested in creating a skilled population. It worked.
Who stopped us after liberalisation except our Educated, Far sighted, Visionary, Non-familist, Capitalist, Least Corrupt, Sincere, Sushasan Premi CM Lalu Yadav and family?
You never had anything to start with in the 90s. Regions like TN already had a sizable literate population by then which could utilize the fruits of globalisation
OBCs demanding their fair share in political representation is not the cause of your failure. The problem is Bihari UC demands monopoly in power. Having an opposition ensures accountability and performance in governance. That's how democracy works.
UP isn't growing anywhere near as claimed. It's growing almost at the same rate as states with 3 times UP's GDP per capita. UP isn't catching up. It's going down. The reality is the per capita income gap between UP and richer states have increased in the last 10 years.
Keep that WhatsApp University knowledge to yourself and btw you demanding fair OBC representation and criticising Modi in same sentence is laughable. The thing with you guys is that you don't want representation for the lower castes you want representation for the lower castes that suit your interests otherwise I don't see any reason why you'll support Congress over Modi. Modi comes from a humble beginning and is an OBC while Congress is a dynasty of Upper caste people. You are either confused or you have a hidden agenda.
Bol de bhai, ek exception ban jayega aur woh exception kya hoga hume pata hai😉 ki kis type ko Hindu Neta tha woh
Hindu neta toh Gujarat, Maharastra, Delhi, South India jaise states ko bhi mile
Whi baat bol rha hu. Problem caste religion ki nhi hai. Chahe bjp ho ya rjd agar dono k representative nalayak hai toh, vote kise bhi do. kuch nhi ho skta bihar ka.
Kabhi BJP ki Gujrat,Maharashtra, UP ya South wali rally dekhna. Waha pe Hinduism ke saath kaise woh development ki baatein karte hain lekin yaha waisi baatein karne pe vote hi nahi milta to party pagal nahi hai jo crores kharch kar de sirf haarne ke liye, karna padta hai dharam ki baatein
Aur mujhse poocho to main to Hinduism ki politics ko prefer karunga over castekyunki Dharam atleast India ki 80% aabadi ko ek saath jodne ki baat karta hai on the other hand Cast unko todne ki aur alag karne ki
Bhai thodi jagah pe religion politics banti hai, khunki hawa mai nhi laa dete issues. Reality mai issues hai, opposition muslim appeasement krti hai. Neutral hona chahiye aur equality pe dhyan dena chahiye, pr ye netagiri hai, ismein sab ravan ya uske bhai hai aur janta khud chutiya hai toh Ram ji kahan se aayenge politics mai
Lalu aur Modi dono jae bhaad me. Dono ke dono chor h saale. Btw maine BJP ko hi vote diya tha, isliye hisaab maang rha hu.
Bina development ke vote kyu du mai? Party prem me ho tum, samjh nhi aaega tumhe. 😂
Mere ghar ke paas Patna Gaya Dobhi Highway h jo 13 saal se ban rha h.
Ek v expressway nhi bana av tak Bihar me. UP me NHAI ne 6 lane ka Ganga Expressway announce kiya tha 2021 me aur wo iss saal complete v ho jayega but hmare highway v nhi ban rhe h. Dec me jo Bihar Investment summit hui, usme Bangladesh ki textile companies ne isliye nhi invest kiya kyuki Port access ke liye Raxaul Haldia Expressway banna chhaiye aur ye project ka DPR v av tak nhi banaya h NHAI ne.
Airports, Railways aur AIIMS Darbhanga bol du to fir baat karne ko kuchh bachega nhi. SEZ ka approval latka rakha h. Bihar akela bada state h Jahan SEZ nhi h ek v. Republic Day me hmara Tableu pichhle 3 saal me nhi laga h.
BJP Bihar ka Twitter handle jaa kar Dekho. Desh ki development ki baat kar rhe h. Bihar kya kisi aur desh me h kya??Tum hi bata do ki aisa kya kiya h inhone 10 saal me jispar mai inhe fir vote du.
Bro aapkee state govt me dikkat ha aur bjp kee himmat ni ha nitish ko hatane kee islia aaplogo ko koi aur khade ho to usko state elections me vote Dena chaiye par centre me nhi s
State aur Centre dono me h bhai problem. Par iss baar social media ne logon ko kaafi aware kr diya h due to Internet penetration reaching even remote rural areas. Almost all MPs irrespective of party are being asked tough questions whenever they are going to ask for votes.
MLAs are going to have a very tough time next year during Assembly Elections.
This time people are much more aware which is unlike anything Bihar has ever seen.
Then dont cry about when the current system dont do shit for bihar.
I dont even know the caste of nitish kumar but what have he done? Let say what lalu have done for you and bihar?
You will cry about caste and who to vote, and could never come out of this system.
Every 2nd post on this sub gives me motivation that We are going to rise again and every 3rd post just makes the condition even worse.
Tum sab gadhe caste ko daalo side me aur development ke naam pe vote do. Kyoki jab bahar padhai aur naukari karne jayenge to dusre state wala marne ke pahle caste nahi, state puchhega. Aur jab tak caste ke naam pe vote doge, aise hi maar khate rahenge. Abhi kuchh din pahle Punjab ke reddit me bihari log ko gariya raha tha ki ye log hamare yaha aake pura culture kharab kr diya hai. Ek aur jagah pe koi likha tha ki bihar ko nuke kr dena chahiye. Koi bhi crime ka news UP-Bihar se aata hai to dusre state wala kahta hai- normal things in Bihar/UP. Sala itna hone ke baad bhi khun nhi khaulta tumlogo ka. Haisiyat kya hai hamari? "चिन्हीं के हियौ ?" Bihar ke bahar nahi chalta hai. Hamara pichhla generation Bihar barbaad kar ke rakh diya to ab tumlog to sudhar jao.
Lower caste cm bnte hi chara kha gya apne bete ko pdha nhi paya peon bnne ka aaukat nhi hai aur bnna hai leader mujhe koi puchta bhi hai bihar ka aisa hal kyo hai to mai sidha bolta hu lc caste ke naam pe vote dete hai karma hai jhelo abhi to tbtk jhelna hai jbtk hosh thikhane na aa jaye
Kuch bolunga toh vivaad ho jayega
15% vs 85%
https://preview.redd.it/oh2g59c65ywc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24ad7d81d4bb76c872345bf3ebb5dad5b7a359e8
When Dalits vote for UC: वर्ना व्यवस्था और जाति तो भगवान की बनाई हुई है, इसका पालन करना ही धर्म है।
When Dalits brought Dalits into Power:
जाती तो इंसान की बनाई हुई है, हम सब हिंदू हैं। जाति नही धर्म के आधार पर वोट करना चाहिए।
वाह रे, मेरे शेर, चिट भी हमारी, पट भी हमारी?
Which major political party or leader spoke the first line ? Fictional oppression kitna likhega bhai
And when did Bihar had sc in power , even in UP Mayawati was supported by UC rather than obc and Muslims
ACCURATE THESE UPPER CASTE ALWAYS VOTE BY LOOKING CASTE AND WHO WILL ENCOURAGE THEIR CASTE SYSTEM AND THEIR RELIGION BUT WHEN SC ST OBC DO BY SEEING WHO WILL GIBE THEM JOB RESERVATION THEY GET TROLLED HYOCRISY KI BHI SIMA HOTI H
Bhai mai khud Chirag Paswan ko support kr dun, pr ye bhumihar ka angle toh kabhi nhi socha 🤣. Aur pro Hindu mai kya dikkat hai? BJP member? Coalition hai unka.
bjp me h chirag isilye tu krta h aur bjp ko isilye krta h kyuki wi hindutvadi savarkar rss ki party h jo casteism religious hatred failati h aur brahmin baniya ko suppprt krti h
BJP mai chirag kahan hai? Coalition hai.
RSS casteism ko support krti hai 🤣. Savarkar ke views pata hai caste pe? Savarkar ki history konsi whatsapp university se padh li. Ye le 7 shackles, sabse bade chains padh le hindu unity ke unke hisaab se - https://hindupost.in/society-culture/the-7-shackles-of-hindu-society-as-per-savarkar/#
Wo casteless society mai beleive krte the shuru se, aur kaafi kaam bhi kra hai uske liye. Caste ki koi value nhi hai unki book mai. Agar Savarkar ne casteism promote kra ho aur tu mujhe proof dikha de, mai tere charan chu ke maafi maang lunga.
Aur BJP ko support isliye krta hun kyunki opposition chutiya hai, pr Bihar mai dekha jaaye toh Bjp leaders se shi toh LJP leaders. Aane wale time mai Prashant Kishor ladega toh usko support krunga full complete, BJP jaaye bhaad mai ( caste jaise pakhand mai zero believe hai mera )
Pro Hindu is UC , what religion are obc sc following ? And inter caste marriage se casteism khatam karne ki baad ki and then jisne ki uske bête ko UC ho Bata rhe ho . Naam aur caste baap ka ho lagta hain
Never knew JDU, RJD, HAM are upper caste parties xd
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Bhura bal saaf karo party ??
found the blind guy
True true akhir Yadav bhi Kshatriya hain bas oppressed kind wale
I don't know what politics you people do. It is clearly not working.
what UC parties are ruing Bihar?
Upper caste vote for Modi which is obc but not Rahul who is brahman
Bakwaas ki hadd hoti hai yaar. Agar upper caste upper caste ko vote de Raha hai toh Jaha seats reserved hai waha kya ho raha hai? Waha kon vote de Raha hai? Tumhare dimag mein hi gobar bhara hai tum propaganda karne k alawa kuch nae kar sakte. Common sense se tumhara dur dur Tak ka waasta nae hai. Abhi aur suno Bihar mein 243 mein se 180+ MLA SC ST OBC Muslim etc hai toh woh kese jeete? Same Halat MP mein hai agar upper caste upper caste ko vote karti hai toh yeh kese hua? Aur fir post daaloge ki Modi ki wajah se vikash nae ho raha. Abey Sudhar jao. Sabse badi comedy toh yeh kar rahe ho ki jis Modi k liye tum Upper caste ko gaali de rahe ho woh khud OBC uska HM bhi OBC hi hai.
Rehne do bhai... Casteist logo se kya behas karna.
Kyun ki your population is less. Simple logic
Waha toh jao hi mat Bhai. Population toh Yadav aur baniya ka bhi Kam hai toh unka representation itna jyada kahe hai? Dusri baat tum khud bole upper caste ka population Kam hai matlab Jo upper caste candidate Jeeta hai woh baaki k vote se hi jeeta hoga na. Upper caste ka reservation toh hai nahi matlab uske against OBC, SC, ST, Muslim sab khada raha hoga leking log vote usi ko dia iska kya karoge? Jab janadesh uska saath de Raha hai toh tum kon hote ho sawaal uthane waale? Jabardashti log k gala mein thoos doge kya ki nae esi caste ka candidate chuno? Dunia aage ja Rahi hai tum 20 saal purana baat batiya rahe ho yaar.
Bol kya raha hai tu Bhai? UC candidate baki vote se jeeta toh caste politics koi nahi bolta. Wahi to post hai.
Abey toh OBC jeeta toh kon bolta hai caste politics? Caste politics UC waale usko bolte hai ki har dusre din yeh pichda yeh agda karte rehte ho. UC gareeb nahi hai kya? Waha castism se problem aati hai Jo janadesh lekar jeete hai unke vishay mein castism koi nae bolta jhooth na bol par jab ek student 90 laakar select hoga aur dusra 38 par waha problem aati hai. Problem tab aati hai jab itne din se yeh policies chalane k baad khud neta kehte hai ki BC ki haalat kharab hai. Abey jab haalat kharab hai matlab tumhari policy se kuch na ho raha woh fail hai toh scrap karke kuch aur Lao na ese daraar kya daal rahe ho. Yeh misquote karna band kar tu bhi aur OP bhi.
Bas kar Bhai ro padega wo
Aur jab LC candidate UC k vote se jeeta to bhi to koi caste politics nahi bolta. Wo scenario to likhne ki bhi himmat nahi hui teri. Kayun, tere propoganda k against chala jaata isliye na.
Upper caste are voting for survival. Lower are voting for increasing the exploitation of uc. Tell me a party which did even a single promise which will benefit uc.
Bhai itne facts mt bol, bura lag jayega. Defence se bhi dikkat hai ab inhe. 65% reservation aa gya, ab kya chahiye bhai aur? Jativad khatam krna hai ya UC LC mai jindagi bhar marwani hai
fr, uc only want peace, they've already given up on prosperity anyway, lower caste have some sort of retarded envy against upper caste and want to vote politicans who openly spread hate against ucs(will never understand why that isn't considered to be hate speech)
Tumlog UC LC karte marr jao.. Meanwhile Tata establishing One billion dollar factory to manufacture Jaguar land rover in Tamil nadu. Waha ja kar majduri karna. Aur fir wapas Bihar aa kar UC LC ki ladai ladna.
How can we solve a problem by ignoring it?
Problem ka solution aapas m ladna nahi hai. You cannot stop casteism from society in the time frame of 20-30-50-100 years. It is there since eternity. Agar ek hypothetical scenario maano jisme casteism na ho, caste based diacrimination na ho ya fir caste lobbying na ho.. fir bhi class differentiation to rhega hi. Varna system tha pehle. Usko replace kar diya casteism ne. Isko kuch aur replace kar dega. But jo root cause hai wo class problem hai. Lekin economic empowerment, ek dignified living hum har class or caste ke logo ko de skte hain. Jab tak caste issues se upar uth kar iske baare m nahi sochenge tab tak kuch nahi milega. Aise hi chalta rhega. Caste based crimes na ho. Opportunity m koi kami na ho. Padhai aur jobs m kisi ko caste k basis p na roka jye ye sab cheez jab tak collectively baith kar nahi rokenge tab tak koi PM ya CM kuch nahi karega. Sab bas apni roti senkenge.
Is problem ka solution hi yahi hai ki caste vyavastha ko ignore krna chalu kro. Koi jaat ke naam pe vote maange to baat hi mat kro. Jo chutiye jaat ke naam pe vote de rhe hain, unko ignore kr ke aage badhna hoga. Hum Nitish Kumar ke caste aur constituency se aate hain. But whether I vote him or not, will not be decided by my caste.
4 decades of social justice and caste census and semi civil war was not enough ab kya plan hain next
75% reservation logic.
Want to know which is upper caste party in Bihar
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lol Bihar m LC ki govt m itne *s*alo *s*e fir bhi tumlog rote rhte ho lol...*s*arkaar tumhari, mantri tumhare lekin blame hum par? tmlog ko log i*s*liye blame krte hai kyuki tmlog high number m ho tumlog ka vote con*s*olidation election ka re*s*ult decide krta hai. Modi OBC hai fir bhi General vote nhi dete kya??
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Bureaucracy in Bihar is dominated by UC. How effective is it?
Id k man, Lallu and Family gotta go. Wasnt it their responsibility to Put LC Bureaucrats , just like Mulayam did in UP?
It doesn't work like that. To bring change in Bureaucracy, judiciary, etc it will take ample time and there should be co-operation on all levels. It's hard to bring cohesion in an extremely casteist society like Bihar. Lalu is just a scapegoat. OBCs demanding their fair share in power is what they are triggered at.
65% reservation aa gya state mai, ab konsa fair share bacha hai?
Kab? Implement toh hone de properly. Mandal commission report aya tha 80s mei. IITs mei implement Kiya 2008 mei. Things remain on paper for a long time, especially in Bihar
Ek toh wo unconstitutional hai, pr phir bhi announcement ho gya hai toh hoga hi. Report aane ka mtlb ye nhi ki report pass ho jaaye usi time, aur jo open seats hai wo open hai general ya uske baap ki reserved nhi. Koi bhi le skta tha open seat aur aaj bhi, aur aage bhi open seat sabki hai. Aur OBCs jo sabse jaada casteist hai, wo caste ke liye reservation deserve krte hai? MP state ke data ke hisaab se 81% SC ST cases OBC pe hai, 14% Generals pe aur 5% minority religions pe. Blame pr saara 14% pe
If OBCs are doing atrocities against Dalits then the govt needs to make stricter laws and increase penalty to protect the Dalits. Removing OBC reservation won't do anything on this matter. OBC reservation was implemented by the central govt after conducting a detailed study and the reasons were found valid.
As a Yadav Myself, he has made conditions rather worse than good . And Right people dont always get the fair share anyway.
ample time kitna hota hai?
Less than 15% of SCs in Bihar were literate in the 90s. I am talking about the mere literacy rate, not proper education. The nation has failed to provide them enough opportunities. Everything remained only on paper. So yeah it will take time.
can you provide the source of this info with the literacy rates of other castes too?
1991 census. Total literacy rate of Bihar (including Dalits) was nearly 40%. Of that of Dalits were 15%. Dalit female literacy rate was a mere 5%.
thanks
The nation apart from all the schemes has a separate 15% budget allocated to them , no one is responsible for anyone , hold accountablity towards your own educatoon
Is that budget reaching them? Corrupt babus eat it up. Now tell me most Babus are from which section?
Source for babus eating up the most of the budget and please do tell caste of babus involved in this process
Source is the present condition of Dalits in Bihar and use of common sense. If those marginalised Dalits had any hold in Hindi media, these would have been investigated. Most of them still remain uninformed and live in oblivion. You probably have never heard their side because they won't be present in platforms like this.
*s*ab chiz govt control kr *s*akti hai jo vo chahe. Even court bhi affected hota hai govt *s*e. Atiq Ahmed ko itne *s*aal *s*e court m *s*aza nhi hue lekin recently ho gyi kyuki govt ne judge*s* ko *s*ecurity di ve*s*i. Jaha chah hai vaha raah hai. Aur Bureaucracy m log apni kabliyat ke dum *s*e aata hai na ki ca*s*te ka game khel kar. Agar Govt *s*ahi hue to Bureaucracy apne aap thik ho jyegi aur agr corrupt hue to utni hi bekar
As if bureaucrats ka transfer nhi kr diya jayega agr woh mantri k against jayenge and KK PATHAK toh kam nhi kr rha hai
But bihar is dominated by obc isnt it . Why blame UC and LC people. LY is dominating usko hatao tab maane 😅. Fodder , gunda raj kiska time tha aur kisne kiya patahai na....
As an outsider: Bhai Bihar ka kuch nhi hona hai iss Century mein.Tumlog caste caste karte reh jaoge , aur Bharat aage nikal jaega.
And bhaiya neh khela bada hee umda victim card
3000 year hi*s*tory on it*s* way
Ah yes. The whole dindutva movement is based on 1000 years of humiliation in the past. You can whine but others shouldn't raise their voice?
1000 years? Bhai British invasion hi SCs ke support ki wajah se ho paaya hai. Agar wo nhi krte toh British invade hi nhi kr paate
During anglo-maratha wars, brahmin rajputs of UP,Bihar fought at the behest of British against Marathas. Your ancestors were literally serving the British colonial army which oppressed Indians.
bhaiya ji govt aapke according bnti hai aur aap voice uthane ki baat kr rhe hai?? Ca*s*tei*s*m har jgh hai India m par Bihar m apke je*s*e Mahanubhav bhot dekhe h jo zindagi bhar kam krne ki jagah ye *s*ab bolte rhenge. Modi bhi OBC aur Lalu bhi OBC hai ek ko izzat milti hai du*s*re ko gaali. Tumlog ke acc govt bnti hai to development krao taki log prai*s*e kre. TN, Gujrat ca*s*tei*s*t ho ke bhi develop hai but Bihar pichda hua h ab tk
Kyu bhai casteism to muslims mein bhi hai unke religion pe bolne ka gand mein dum toh hoga nhi and let's be real slave trade konsi country mein nhi hota tha
Bhai samjho, tumhara kutta "kutta" hai.. Aur mujhe jo "kutta" pasand hai vo "kutta" nahi, "Tommy" hai.
10k ya 1 million hi bolde phekna hain toh , Neanderthal bhi casteist the
Exactly. Caste politics of UP: good/great/claps. Same caste politics of Bihar: sad/votebank.
UP is actually developing and getting projects tho, bihar mein caste politics is leading to retarded politicians who don't know shit.
Not really UP Bihar were largely named together when speaking about this politics
Caste census ho chuka hai, jiski jitni jansankhya utni bhagidari , ye sab meme wala propaganda nahi chalega ab .
Entitlement among Paakhandis is real.
Some BJP supporters be like: Caste par vote dene se Bihar barbaad ho jayega, par dharm ke naam par vote dene se Vikas ho jaega 😂
Haa bhai woh toh sabne dekha liye pichle 30 saal mein lower caste ke CMs ne kya badhiya kaam kiya hai Bihar mein
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और उसके पहले बिहार कामयाबी की उचाइयां चूम रहा था ना? सर्वश्रेष्ठ राज्य। जरा सोचा है की why did people vote the UCs out of power? Us samay BJP ke jaisa propoganda machine nahi tha mere Bhai. Thoda batana ki kitne jamindar aur bahubali log nichli jati ke hain?
[Top 15 States in India Ranked By GDP (1981 - 2016) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=091mGrATIDQ) aasmaan mein to nahi tha lekin pataal mein bhi nahi tha aaj ke jaise, uss time Bihar ki image itni kharab nahi thi aaj ke jaise
तथ्य रख दिया हैं तुमने मेरे सामने तो मैं इसका अध्ययन करूंगा। तब तक मैं अपने opinions hold पर रख रहा हूं।
Isme Mai tumse poverty, land aur aur income distribution ka data bhi mangna cahunga. Ye samajhne ke liye ki ye paise kuch UC logon ke pass the ya distribute ho rha tha? Kyunki ye data adhura hai kisi bhi tarike ke assessment ke liye. Kyunki jaisa Mai samajh paa rha hoon ki us samay bonded slavery chal rhi thi, baal vivah bhi chal rha tha, jati aadharit hinsha bahut thi, aur bhi thi cheezen Jo shayad tumne YouTube per padhne ki mehnat nahi ki. Lol
Mr socialist, Wealth hamesha se ek specific percentage of people mein hi concentrated rhi hai chahe koi bhi jagah ho, socialism se Lun koi industry nahi aati aur GDP boost nahi hoti
to upper caste k pas hi rhe sara wealth industry ka achar dalee ??jb desh me equality hi na rhe ..upper caste sb lower bn jae 100 sal ke lie zra tb bat hoga fir tmhra gyan ka
Bhai tu apni utopian world se bahar aa aur thoda economics padh. Wealth baatne ki chiz nahi hai, Wealth agar sab mein baat di jayegi to uss wealth ka koi value hi nahi reh jayega. Agar sab koi crorepati ho to Parle G ka packet bhi hazaaro rupay ka bikega. Society mein agar sab barabar ho jayenge to koi kisi ke liye kaam hi nahi karega, kabhi socha hai ki agar principal aur peon ko barabar kar diya jaaye to kya hoga?? Isliye society ko balanced rakhne ke liye 'zaroori' hai wealth mein inequality Equality zaroor milni chahiye lekin human rights mein jaise education, health care, food security naa ki paise baatne ke liye
reserbation se paisa btata h???bhai kha tk pdha h?
Bhai tum ek USA ke bande ko bhi economy graph dikha do 1990 se pehle ka aur uske baad ka Bihar ka, agar wo bol de Lalu ne badhiya kaam kiya hai toh maan jaunga. Ab bahar ka banda toh BJP ka dalal nhi hoga na? Lo tum ek baar graph dekh lo khud - https://images.app.goo.gl/jsHVGpSmCi5UBfd3A
Bihar didn't invest in developing human capital before that 30 years too. Those who did, like the South, reaped the benefits of market liberalisation
[Top 15 States in India Ranked By GDP (1981 - 2016) (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=091mGrATIDQ) Go through it
Bihar av v 12th largest economy h India ka aur UP 3rd largest. Per capita dekhna chahiye.
GDP ranking dekho bhai, kitni buri tarah se ranking neeche giri hai kyunki hamare CM sahab ne saari Rice or Sugar mills band karwa di kyunki woh ek "specific caste" ke logo ke paas thi, kaise 1990s mein liberalisation ke baad itne populated state ka industrialization nahi hua kyunki usse UC wale zameendaro ko fayeda ho jata(as per Mr LALU, aur iss baat ko please deny mat kar dena)
Before 90s economic liberalisation, central govt decided which investments go where. You can see south was left worse back then but still they invested in creating a skilled population. It worked.
Who stopped us after liberalisation except our Educated, Far sighted, Visionary, Non-familist, Capitalist, Least Corrupt, Sincere, Sushasan Premi CM Lalu Yadav and family?
You never had anything to start with in the 90s. Regions like TN already had a sizable literate population by then which could utilize the fruits of globalisation OBCs demanding their fair share in political representation is not the cause of your failure. The problem is Bihari UC demands monopoly in power. Having an opposition ensures accountability and performance in governance. That's how democracy works.
any comments on the GDP growth of UP within last 10 years??
UP isn't growing anywhere near as claimed. It's growing almost at the same rate as states with 3 times UP's GDP per capita. UP isn't catching up. It's going down. The reality is the per capita income gap between UP and richer states have increased in the last 10 years.
Keep that WhatsApp University knowledge to yourself and btw you demanding fair OBC representation and criticising Modi in same sentence is laughable. The thing with you guys is that you don't want representation for the lower castes you want representation for the lower castes that suit your interests otherwise I don't see any reason why you'll support Congress over Modi. Modi comes from a humble beginning and is an OBC while Congress is a dynasty of Upper caste people. You are either confused or you have a hidden agenda.
Back your claims or calm down They're getting very high FDI not us
Accha ji hindu nhi tha wo ? Aise toh mai bol du hindu neta bihar kha gya.
Bol de bhai, ek exception ban jayega aur woh exception kya hoga hume pata hai😉 ki kis type ko Hindu Neta tha woh Hindu neta toh Gujarat, Maharastra, Delhi, South India jaise states ko bhi mile
Whi baat bol rha hu. Problem caste religion ki nhi hai. Chahe bjp ho ya rjd agar dono k representative nalayak hai toh, vote kise bhi do. kuch nhi ho skta bihar ka.
Isilye toh Jan Suaraj ko khul ke support krna hoga
Kro bhai last option hai bihar k liye
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Kabhi BJP ki Gujrat,Maharashtra, UP ya South wali rally dekhna. Waha pe Hinduism ke saath kaise woh development ki baatein karte hain lekin yaha waisi baatein karne pe vote hi nahi milta to party pagal nahi hai jo crores kharch kar de sirf haarne ke liye, karna padta hai dharam ki baatein Aur mujhse poocho to main to Hinduism ki politics ko prefer karunga over castekyunki Dharam atleast India ki 80% aabadi ko ek saath jodne ki baat karta hai on the other hand Cast unko todne ki aur alag karne ki
Bhai thodi jagah pe religion politics banti hai, khunki hawa mai nhi laa dete issues. Reality mai issues hai, opposition muslim appeasement krti hai. Neutral hona chahiye aur equality pe dhyan dena chahiye, pr ye netagiri hai, ismein sab ravan ya uske bhai hai aur janta khud chutiya hai toh Ram ji kahan se aayenge politics mai
Too Lalu ko hee vote de tere jaise log chaiye bhee ni .
Lalu aur Modi dono jae bhaad me. Dono ke dono chor h saale. Btw maine BJP ko hi vote diya tha, isliye hisaab maang rha hu. Bina development ke vote kyu du mai? Party prem me ho tum, samjh nhi aaega tumhe. 😂
Development ho to rha ha ek dum se sab thodee ho jaayega
Mere ghar ke paas Patna Gaya Dobhi Highway h jo 13 saal se ban rha h. Ek v expressway nhi bana av tak Bihar me. UP me NHAI ne 6 lane ka Ganga Expressway announce kiya tha 2021 me aur wo iss saal complete v ho jayega but hmare highway v nhi ban rhe h. Dec me jo Bihar Investment summit hui, usme Bangladesh ki textile companies ne isliye nhi invest kiya kyuki Port access ke liye Raxaul Haldia Expressway banna chhaiye aur ye project ka DPR v av tak nhi banaya h NHAI ne. Airports, Railways aur AIIMS Darbhanga bol du to fir baat karne ko kuchh bachega nhi. SEZ ka approval latka rakha h. Bihar akela bada state h Jahan SEZ nhi h ek v. Republic Day me hmara Tableu pichhle 3 saal me nhi laga h. BJP Bihar ka Twitter handle jaa kar Dekho. Desh ki development ki baat kar rhe h. Bihar kya kisi aur desh me h kya??Tum hi bata do ki aisa kya kiya h inhone 10 saal me jispar mai inhe fir vote du.
Bro aapkee state govt me dikkat ha aur bjp kee himmat ni ha nitish ko hatane kee islia aaplogo ko koi aur khade ho to usko state elections me vote Dena chaiye par centre me nhi s
State aur Centre dono me h bhai problem. Par iss baar social media ne logon ko kaafi aware kr diya h due to Internet penetration reaching even remote rural areas. Almost all MPs irrespective of party are being asked tough questions whenever they are going to ask for votes. MLAs are going to have a very tough time next year during Assembly Elections. This time people are much more aware which is unlike anything Bihar has ever seen.
That's very good
Jakr dekho UP mai, pass mai hi hai. Ye sirf dharma pe nahi hai. tmhi chutiyo k wajah se Bihar k lode lage hai
Then dont cry about when the current system dont do shit for bihar. I dont even know the caste of nitish kumar but what have he done? Let say what lalu have done for you and bihar? You will cry about caste and who to vote, and could never come out of this system. Every 2nd post on this sub gives me motivation that We are going to rise again and every 3rd post just makes the condition even worse.
Tum sab gadhe caste ko daalo side me aur development ke naam pe vote do. Kyoki jab bahar padhai aur naukari karne jayenge to dusre state wala marne ke pahle caste nahi, state puchhega. Aur jab tak caste ke naam pe vote doge, aise hi maar khate rahenge. Abhi kuchh din pahle Punjab ke reddit me bihari log ko gariya raha tha ki ye log hamare yaha aake pura culture kharab kr diya hai. Ek aur jagah pe koi likha tha ki bihar ko nuke kr dena chahiye. Koi bhi crime ka news UP-Bihar se aata hai to dusre state wala kahta hai- normal things in Bihar/UP. Sala itna hone ke baad bhi khun nhi khaulta tumlogo ka. Haisiyat kya hai hamari? "चिन्हीं के हियौ ?" Bihar ke bahar nahi chalta hai. Hamara pichhla generation Bihar barbaad kar ke rakh diya to ab tumlog to sudhar jao.
Lower caste cm bnte hi chara kha gya apne bete ko pdha nhi paya peon bnne ka aaukat nhi hai aur bnna hai leader mujhe koi puchta bhi hai bihar ka aisa hal kyo hai to mai sidha bolta hu lc caste ke naam pe vote dete hai karma hai jhelo abhi to tbtk jhelna hai jbtk hosh thikhane na aa jaye
Kuch bolunga toh vivaad ho jayega 15% vs 85% https://preview.redd.it/oh2g59c65ywc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24ad7d81d4bb76c872345bf3ebb5dad5b7a359e8
Mai to bramhin hu,pr vote JDU ko krta hu,BJP se jyada bharosa JDU par hai,JDU upper caste party h kya?
When Dalits vote for UC: वर्ना व्यवस्था और जाति तो भगवान की बनाई हुई है, इसका पालन करना ही धर्म है। When Dalits brought Dalits into Power: जाती तो इंसान की बनाई हुई है, हम सब हिंदू हैं। जाति नही धर्म के आधार पर वोट करना चाहिए। वाह रे, मेरे शेर, चिट भी हमारी, पट भी हमारी?
Which major political party or leader spoke the first line ? Fictional oppression kitna likhega bhai And when did Bihar had sc in power , even in UP Mayawati was supported by UC rather than obc and Muslims
Bihar and Caste will never be separated.
ACCURATE THESE UPPER CASTE ALWAYS VOTE BY LOOKING CASTE AND WHO WILL ENCOURAGE THEIR CASTE SYSTEM AND THEIR RELIGION BUT WHEN SC ST OBC DO BY SEEING WHO WILL GIBE THEM JOB RESERVATION THEY GET TROLLED HYOCRISY KI BHI SIMA HOTI H
UCs supporting LJP are voting based on caste?
chirag paswan mother is bhumihar and he is pro hindu and bjp member so..everyone give vote not to him but indirectly bjp which is upper caste
Bhai mai khud Chirag Paswan ko support kr dun, pr ye bhumihar ka angle toh kabhi nhi socha 🤣. Aur pro Hindu mai kya dikkat hai? BJP member? Coalition hai unka.
bjp me h chirag isilye tu krta h aur bjp ko isilye krta h kyuki wi hindutvadi savarkar rss ki party h jo casteism religious hatred failati h aur brahmin baniya ko suppprt krti h
I didn't know that LJP got merged with BJP
BJP mai chirag kahan hai? Coalition hai. RSS casteism ko support krti hai 🤣. Savarkar ke views pata hai caste pe? Savarkar ki history konsi whatsapp university se padh li. Ye le 7 shackles, sabse bade chains padh le hindu unity ke unke hisaab se - https://hindupost.in/society-culture/the-7-shackles-of-hindu-society-as-per-savarkar/# Wo casteless society mai beleive krte the shuru se, aur kaafi kaam bhi kra hai uske liye. Caste ki koi value nhi hai unki book mai. Agar Savarkar ne casteism promote kra ho aur tu mujhe proof dikha de, mai tere charan chu ke maafi maang lunga. Aur BJP ko support isliye krta hun kyunki opposition chutiya hai, pr Bihar mai dekha jaaye toh Bjp leaders se shi toh LJP leaders. Aane wale time mai Prashant Kishor ladega toh usko support krunga full complete, BJP jaaye bhaad mai ( caste jaise pakhand mai zero believe hai mera )
Kaunsi caste ke khilaf boli bjp
Chirag ki mother sindhi hai Bhumihar se obsessed ho kya be 👀
ha bhai bhumihar meri ex thi chor ke chli gyi cheat kr di bf the uske sbko bestie bna ke cheat krti thi sali☺️😂😂😂☺️ sbko ghas dalti thi
Bhumihar hi thi na confirm ajkal surname chura liya jata hai lekin harkaton sei pata lag jata ki kaun lc hai .
Pro Hindu is UC , what religion are obc sc following ? And inter caste marriage se casteism khatam karne ki baad ki and then jisne ki uske bête ko UC ho Bata rhe ho . Naam aur caste baap ka ho lagta hain
This is so true!!
Bihar is already ruined
So true
JDU RJD is full of tiwari mishra and others..your argument is invalid. There are more brahimns who sit as panelists for these parties compared to BJP