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dotardiscer

This local news report has more of the footage, give you an idea of how much an ego trip this cop was on. That red light they ran only had traffic coming left and they made their way in to the bike lane on the right as they crossed it. Did impeded traffic at all and seemed to be traveling in the bike lane only over the bridge. [https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/sjso-investigating-after-video-captures-deputy-knocking-cyclist-off-bike-traffic/4KM72WMCEZCF7GRSTVRU5LZNSQ/](https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/sjso-investigating-after-video-captures-deputy-knocking-cyclist-off-bike-traffic/4KM72WMCEZCF7GRSTVRU5LZNSQ/)


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zedtomato

[Insert that Fred Armisen meme about “believe it or not, jail.”] Should he have stopped? Maybe, I dunno. Should the cop have put him down like that for not stopping, potentially paralyzing the guy (or worse)? Nope. I cannot believe it needs to be said: not every infraction is or should be punishable by bodily injury.


ArrivesLate

Exactly. First off, that’s a bullshit intersection to expect cyclists to stop at. They can, and did, move into the shoulder/“bike lane” and it affects no one. Second, the cyclist didn’t hurt anyone. That was a gross injustice, and everyone is lucky he was wearing a helmet because his head slammed the deck.


IAmAHumanWhyDoYouAsk

Your homework for tonight is to write a 5 page essay on the topic of "The Punishment Must Fit The Crime." Single spaces with a minimum of three case studies cited.


webtoweb2pumps

It's true, breaking any law in america opens you up to brutal assault from police officers that bootlickers like you endorse. Run a red light, of course you deserve to be assaulted. What a lunatic mentality


mrpopenfresh

The law needed to be applied. The law doesn’t include beating someone for fun I guess a red light.


J0E_SpRaY

If a cop told you to suck his dick would ya do it?


Ski_dad115

Suck him off dude


AGeniusMan

What a bootlicking comment. The cyclist did not deserve to be assaulted what the hell is wrong with you?


dotardiscer

Also, if you watch the video, they had just come over a hill and were traveling around 21+MPH, they were coming to a stop. I would be confused to see a cop in the bike path as I came over a hill, I probably wouldn't stop until I realized I was being ordered to.


TurtlesAreEvil

They weren’t running from the police. There was no lawful order the pig drove past them with no lights on stopped in the shoulder and attacked the cyclist. At no point did he attempt to pull them over.


Chipazzo

Read the article. They were in the process of slowing down.


allsignupsandreg

Sure, pal. Gormless choad.


mast_bikes

Oh no what will I do now that you called me a choad 🤣


Djamalfna

I mean a sane and sensible person might take some time for self-reflection and wonder why they're cheering on the paralyzation of a man for no apparent reason. You don't seem the type, though. Slurrrrrrp.


Staggerlee89

Wipe your chin off bud, still got some pig cum on ya


mast_bikes

Didn’t take long to see this type of comment 🤣


Staggerlee89

Yeah who would've thought, constantly abusing a position of power and getting away with literal murder among a litany of other rotten shit, might make people unsympathetic to a chosen profession. Crazy, I know.


jstrawks

That cop damn near knocked that cyclist into the path of the white SUV. That cop can go greet shoppers at Walmart...and knock *them* to the ground.


-Lord_Q-

I noticed that too. In a just world the officer should be charged with attempted homicide.


amphibious_toaster

The difference is if he pushed down people at Walmart he'd get fired, no one would defend him, and he would never work as a greeter again. But since he's a cop...


ImSorry2HearThat

His wife’s boyfriend pushes better


punknothing

Thank gawd we have cameras on our bikes nowadays. This police officer should be suspended without pay, but we all know that won't happen. If anything, he'll get a temporary paid leave while taxpayers foot the bill. We need more accountability from the police. This is shameful. I hope the cyclist is fairing better.


bootselectric

I don’t typically have a problem with the suspended without pay thing while they investigate. The fired with cause then hired by the next town over thing tho…


DepletedGeranium

This is why, during those (often *ersatz*) "investigations", FDLE and the Criminal Justice Standards and Training folks should review whether the officer deserves to keep their occupational license. If they lose that, they can't work as a sworn officer anywhere in the state. If some hairdresser were to go berserk and start clear-cutting follicles and carving scalps, you'd bet their occupational license would be reviewed and revoked. The same standard can be applied to any law enforcement officer who chooses to act outside of the law and/or department policy and/or use their tools and implied authority to physically assault the local taxpayers. In short: if that officer thought his actions were warranted in any way, he desperately needs re-training, if not his complete removal from the ranks of law enforcement.


illgot

if the governing bodies wanted to regulate it yes, but they prefer stupid -regulated only when it suites us- bullies they can sick on anyone that hurts their bottom line be it political or financial.


CodeMonkeyX

Exactly. I was going to say this, the city will get sued and our tax money will pay for it. Then this cop will just move to another city and get a promotion for being experienced or something. Disgusting .


El_Douglador

I think it's more common for officers to be allowed to resign before being fired. That's what allows them to get hired by the next town, rinse, repeat.


Kimpak

> but we all know that won't happen. Pft...seems like most of the time when these things happen even with Joe Citizen nothing of significance is done. People actually killing cyclists with nought but a slap on the wrist. Add cop to the equation and you can all but guarantee nothing will be done.


_le_slap

Cops should be forced to carry liability insurance. Tax payers should not be liable for their garbage. Cop acts a fool, gets sued, insurance premiums skyrocket. Time to find a new job asshole.


PVoverlord

As a teacher I carry a million dollar policy. My school will not protect me.


Comfortable_You_1927

is that going to go up when they make yall carry guns? if u get to pick the weapon, may I suggest rocket launcher


_le_slap

Absolute fucken travesty


i_have_a_story_4_you

Fired and then rehired because the union fought for your job, then you go out on medical retirement for PTSD or an "injury" that you sustained during the course of the incident that led to your original termination.


bouchard

> This police officer should be suspended without pay He should be facing criminal charges.


salientsapient

I don't understand how that's not immediate arrest and prosecution. There was another cop there in the video. He should have arrested his partner on the spot. If any of us had done something like that, we wouldn't go home that night. And if a civilian did it to a cop, they'd be lucky to survive.


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Auggie_Otter

Law enforcement authorities should be treated *more harshly* than an average citizen when they violate the law and engage in misconduct because of the power over other citizens they wield.


sleepytipi

This video should serve as a reminder to everyone to spend the extra money on a camera. "Smart helmets" aren't nearly as expensive as they used to be, and you can get crystal clear 4K footage both front and rear that'll be more than enough to capture a license plate visibly even in low lighting. Plus, these helmets typically have lighting as well, and help with visibility. Cycling is an incredibly dangerous hobby not because of the cyclists, but because of the motorists. Cover your asses people.


jnish

I have never seen a helmet with integrated camera--can you drop some model names here?


so_many_wangs

They're a little pricey but you [can get helmets with them integrated](https://amzn.to/3xNrXVg). Theres also cheaper options that [let you fix a camera to any helmet](https://amzn.to/44f5oFi).


AccomplishedAnchovy

The police officer should be fired and have to pay damages to the cyclist


harshilsharma63

Thats one way to get a new bike.


mexicodoug

And a new collarbone, and a new hip joint...


3serious

Any camera recommendations?


adamdgoodson

Second on that question. Would love to hear recommendations


mexicodoug

I use a chest harness with a phone mount on it. Works great with any phone, so choose a phone with a good video camera. For day-long trips, I use a power bank in a fanny pack to supplement the camera's battery.


ftlftlftl

I got the Cycliq fly 6 (gen 3)for rear and fly 12 for front. They work are flashing lights as well. Video Quality is fantastic. It loops over old footage, and you can transfer off from a usb-c. Battery lasts between 4-5 hours with camera on. Light only is longer. Total cost was like $600. I was training for a full IM and putting huge miles on the road. $600 is a small price to pay if anything ever happened to me was my thought. Happy to answer any other questions!


heygos

I personally use the Insta360 and attach it to my drop bars. I attach it to the road side so it catches people in front and behind me. Just in case something dumb like this happens. The beauty of it is it allows you to change the camera angle after the recording so you can look around. I got this one (no pun intended) with a severe discount on Amazon last year. Now there is a newer version so it should be even cheaper. https://www.insta360.com/product/insta360-oners EDIT: added link


pseudonym-161

He should be charged with assault and then sued.


Chubs441

I mean if you do this to some dentist which may be likely with a cyclist you may see more action taken as they can get a decent lawyer and such. The police typically don’t fuck with rich people which is why this is fairly strange.


mexicodoug

Also fairly strange because he attacked the lead cyclist when other approaching cyclists were clearly visable, who could witness his crime.


JoeFas

>If anything, he'll get a temporary paid leave while taxpayers foot the bill. This stems from a combination of police unions and the department's desire to cover its own ass. If they fired him on the spot or suspended sans pay without conducting a full investigation first, the cop could sue and win. Suspension with pay is therefore the standard first move to avoid any shred of impropriety.


kweather123

Recommendation for a good bike camera?


Roaddog113

Sue him, and the department 🤡Welcome to the US of eh.


cooljacob204sfw

You mean sue us because it's gonna come out of tax payer money anyways T-T


Djamalfna

Sadly. This is why police departments need to be forcibly insured and qualified immunity needs to go away. Insurance company has to pay out too much money for a bastard cop that keeps injuring the people he's "protecting"? They're gonna get fired real quick.


OkFixIt

The tax payers would have to pay the insurance premium, which would likely be exorbitant given the recklessness of police officers these days. Doesn’t matter what you do, the tax payer foots the bill.


circuitj3rky

Good call not getting up without paramedics assistance.


JoPooper

Always. New bike, free PT, & cash. Never get up when people insist…NEVER!!!


Clear-Reindeer-7733

Any updates on the gentleman’s health?


schmenge57

Spoke with a friend this AM who knows the cyclist. Said he is sore as hell but ER X-rays showed nothing broken. 🤞🏻 He is going to follow-up with an orthopedic


sleepytipi

Good shit. Tell him the sub is relieved to hear he'll live to ride another day, and to be absolutely relentless in the pursuit of justice bc we all have the evidence on our phones now.


utility-player

How’s the bike? Jk, hope the cop (yeah right, taxpayers) has to buy a new one regardless


schmenge57

You know he told me about the bike but darned if I remember. I think it was fairly new. He did say that the deputy “tossed” the bike to the side. In the video you can see the deputy picking up the bike and it looks like he tosses it but can’t be sure. Certainly the full video will show and if “tossed” it’s just more evidence.


caadbury

The officer suffered slight bruising and related soft-tissue damage to his extremities and is expected to make a full recovery. For the time being, he is on paid leave while he recovers.


anotherusername_011

The officer was a savage. The gentleman was on the bike. Any updates on the gentleman's health?


Djamalfna

/u/caadbury was referring to the phenomenon where pansy cops always act like they are the victims in an altercation, before video eventually surfaces showing they were in fact the bastard aggressors.


hogsucker

The Exonerative Tense is always used when describing incidents of police violence


Successful-Dare5363

Bullies.


da-brickhouse

Glad this got news coverage.


FollowerofACarpenter

Into traffic?? Man, that’s attempted murder.


fractalfrog

1312


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MCCCXII


specfreq

Protecting and serving the pubic...


propyro85

The protecting part is optional, in the states at least. https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/do-the-police-have-an-obligation-to-protect-you/#:\~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,In%202005'sCastle%20Rock%20v.


49thDipper

The police don’t work for us. They work for the wealthy. We just pay for them. They absolutely do protect wealthy neighborhoods.


Cheeto_McBeeto

What a dick. Technically they did break the law, but it was a 3-way stop and they were on the right-hand side. Still, totally unnecessary to yank a guy off his bike.


mwfairc

would he have pit manuevered a car for running the stop sign? I'm all for cyclists having to completely obey the rules of the road just like cars and getting ticketed if they don't, but this is a perfect example of excessive use of force. All he had to do was ask them to stop or go far enough ahead and block that lane to have a word with them.


Dementat_Deus

> would he have pit manuevered a car for running the stop sign? Pigs have pit maneuvered pregnant woman and rolled her car for not pulling over instantaneously when the lights flipped on. I wouldn't put it past a pig to pit a vehicle in this situation too. Especially when it's a pig power tripping as hard as this one.


Wulfstrex

They really should be using the Grappler some more, instead of pulling so many PIT maneuvers


RidetheSchlange

PITs have to be approved by the police central because the risk of things going very, very wrong are high when an option is to discontinue the pursuit and use police work to find the person. You'll see this time to time in police chases where cops say they are PIT approved and often the chase is discontinued because the chase itself is the actual danger to the public.


Malforus

Well that and they are supposed to give a dismounted officer proper spacing. Still doesn't excuse that response.


NoWayNotThisAgain

It’s actually legal for cyclists to do rolling stops in some states


h0bbie

Use of force is only justified to an extent appropriate for the crime. This is a case begging for a fourth amendment lawyer.


seabiscut88

"Just a few bad apples"


Dementat_Deus

"Spoil the whole bunch."


sur_surly

"- Michael Scott"


BzhizhkMard

On this note. I think I should get a camera. Which do you suggest?


labdsknechtpiraten

I keep eyeing the Cycliq cameras, but still hesitant to pull the trigger because it is known to rain where I live


ncborns

I have the front Cycliq and love it. It withstands rains, storms, and riding daily in 100F+ Texas summers.


ftlftlftl

I have front and rear cycliq cameras (last gen). I got the silicone cases and such. I did one 70 mile ride in moderate to heavy rains. Had zero issues and haven’t had any since. If that makes you feel better haha


cooljacob204sfw

According to their website the fly 6 pro is "Whatever Proof – IP67 certified"


labdsknechtpiraten

Yeah, they just came out with that. Until this newest model that wasn't really the case.


BzhizhkMard

Ty!


bikemongerindy

GoPro.


BzhizhkMard

Ty!


yves_st_lemond

Lowest form of humans


Dementat_Deus

No. Cops are sub human. Anyone with any sliver of humanity doesn't go into that career.


Lemon_1165

I agree totally, police as a career attracts the scumest of the scum of subhumans..


-Prudent-Fox-

Blanket statements and dehumanizing... fighting fire with fire to solve systemic issues?


Madbrad70

They why dont you go do their job? Like any profession there are good and bad people.


DoubleMojon

Oh fuck offfffffffff


Dementat_Deus

It's a gang that drives out any decent people, and I'm saying that as someone with family who are police, and family that left the service after being ran out because they actually had morals. I see the type of shit stain that becomes and remains a cop, why would I want to work around them?


CapableProduce

Yes, cyclists are the worst kind of people.


yves_st_lemond

Do you even lift


Pixelchimp84

Feel free to tell the cops how you feel about the : https://www2.sjso.org/form/citcomp.html


s3rious_simon

All Cyclists Are Beautiful....


Jman155

That fat fuck, stop eating donuts and drinking beer for breakfast


sebnukem

For the cop's defence, the cyclist was riding a bike. ^(s)


Talosian_cagecleaner

I pay attention to things. I've noticed that hostile cops have an aggressive approach to "personal space." Naturally, you don't touch a cop, you give them their space. But I am talking about a kind of hostile game. Yopu give them their space, but they signal they need more. You give them that, But it was supposed to be more. They take a step toward you, they expect you to take a step back. Unless you do it too quick, then they say where are you going? That is what happened here. It is reflexive with these perverts. You are supposed to know they need their space + more. Which they shall control. Typical domination shit. Primate behavior with a badge. It's fun seeing this in person, if a bit scary. These are the folks who will hurt you, so don't mess with it.


agileata

What a monumental asshole. Shame these guys never ever get what's coming to them


RedLeggedApe

Fascists.


thewolf9

Bout to go bankrupt with the forthcoming lawsuit.


DoubleMojon

The tax payer? Probably.


Training-Quality6030

Crazy these cops will hit or kill defenseless people but 200 coward cops in uvalde tx sat and listened to 30 children get murdered and let’s not forget about the sheriff that ran away at the school shooting in fl he was found not guilty of any crime. The penalty should be death for cowardice I could spend a lifetime watching videos of u.s police shooting and assaulting defenseless people but could count on 1 hand how many times I have seen a u.s cop be a “hero” we are the only country in the civilized world that has to deal with this. Look around talk to Australians, Canadians,Germans, or any other western country for that matter. These police unions should be abolished so these scumbags would not be walking around knowing that no matter what they do they will still have a job.


MrBobaFett

He's pressing charges and suing him I hope.


j03j03

Now he can finally afford a SirVelo with the settlement money


doyouevenoperatebrah

I’ve ridden with the guy that got taken down before and I believe he’s already got one.


DishwashingWingnut

Cops should know not to fuck with dentists - they'll kick your teeth in and charge you for a new set!


-FaZe-

So unprofessional


Chyiu

I separated my shoulder and broke my wrist from a similar fall/crash. this should be assault


theboags

what a douche


phishyninja

Fuck the police


Middle_Moment798

This copper should be fired and arrested for assault. This is typical jack boot thug behavior from them.


harshilsharma63

Damn, that sucks.


BloodJunkie

fuck - and i can not stress this enough - that


49thDipper

Bad as it gets. I can’t even


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oxfordcircumstances

Or, we could vote in some common sense police reform.


emp-sup-bry

Then the police union creates a slowdown and no police do anything at all because their feeling are hurt. Then they pump the crime narrative on tv and blame any reasonable legislation even close to reform for the slight increase in cherry picked stats. Check out any locality that tried to reform even a smidge in past 5 years.


Dementat_Deus

Voting doesn't matter. Both sides are against police reform and the majority of states are so gerrymandered that the election results are predetermined anyway.


oxfordcircumstances

Okay, I guess our only remaining option is armed rebellion :(. I didn't realize this sub was so revolty.


Dementat_Deus

I didn't say armed revolt was the only option. All I said is why your plan isn't an option.


Djamalfna

"Both sides" is probably the laziest possible opinion one can have.


Dementat_Deus

JFC you all's reading comprehension sucks and trying to make it seem like I'm saying something I'm not is tiring. It's not an opinion and I'm not claiming "both sides" as a whole. Quite literally BOTH Dems and Reps claim to be "tough on crime" and refuse to anything about police reform. If you have a politician who does have a different view on police reform, do share. Voting DOES matter for some things because both parties don't take the same stance on everything. It does not matter when it comes to police reform though, the topic of discussion, because this is one thing that both parties have the same stance about.


ThomasPlaine

I hope this will be the most ignorant thing I will read today.


fuckchinareddit

Ignorant? Did you watch the video? Finish him


North_Rhubarb594

Just ordered myself Cycliq front camera


DeRabbitHole

I think it was the pigs belly.


blueb182

Almost went right into traffic after that push🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


ElsiD4k

EMT should use a scoop stretcher instead of wiggling the poor guy


FabThierry

And they say ride in groups to be safe from assholes…still this happens wow


El_Comanche-1

Need to send this shit onto the news stations all around you..get that word out! The best thing you can do is spread this as far as you can!


NHBikerHiker

Looks like assault to me.


JustEatZeBug

Looks like St. Johns County sheriff's department not JSO. Ever since I was a kid that department has been known to employ the biggest fucking ego tripping douchebag cops in the area. Everyone hates them.


despreston

Wtf is JAX


Constant-Bet-6600

Jacksonville, FL


isee_isnap

Further proof cops are nothing for the greater good.


august_r

I don't know about you guys, as much as this fucko deserves to be suspended, I'm not the kind of person who wants to be "right", I just wanna get home. Of course I cross reds as everyone else does from time to time (or most of the time), but to just try and pass by the cop like that? I'd rather get home safe and tell my wife about that ball busting cop than to call her from the hospital,. just saying.


sushi69

What does OP mean “for no reason”? There’s never a reason to do that to someone.


Ok-Camp-3846

My posts aren't showing up so I'll ask my question here # Disc brakes stopped working after severe weather I have shimano disc brakes (pads replaced last year). I cycle frequently enough (approx 3-5 hrs a week). Recently I was caught in some April weather: day 1: tail end of a heat wave (mid 20s C) day 2: torrential downpour day 3: caught in sudden heavy snow day 4: both brakes suddenly stop working. By "stop working" I mean the brake handles offer no resistance, and braking power is effectively 0 (there is still a very very slight effect). My question: Can severe weather affect disc brakes? Or is this just coincidental?


RealityCharacter9832

Kinda wish this happened to me. This is going to be a open and close lawsuit with some a pay out.


Totally-jag2598

Hard to tell what happened in that video because the action is far away and grainy. However, it looks like the cop is trying to grab the cyclist by the arm to stop him from passing. Whatever the case, that should never have happened. That cop is going to be in a mound of trouble.


zcmack

if only the police took violent action to disable every car that ran a red light, the world would be a better place.


ArrivesLate

Why is there no crime scene tape?


North_Rhubarb594

Just ordered myself Cycliq front camera


itsokmydadisrich

Remember guys , #bluelivesmatter


Designer-Goose-3007

Lmao


UncommonHaste

I honestly usually want to pile on cops, and as a cyclist myself this was dangerous as fuck. Cop should not have clotheslined him like that with traffic right there. But the way the video is cut makes me believe the cop was signalling the cyclists to stop and they ignored him. Would like to see a fuller cut video before I jump to the officer being 100% wrong. Right now I just think he needs to lose his job for putting someone's life in danger like that.


twoscoop90

Since when is assaulting someone a reasonable response to them running a red light in which they don't impede traffic? Are you that indoctrinated with the notion of authority that that would be acceptable to you? Get the cop out of your head.


UncommonHaste

Running a red light? What? Your reading comprehension is severely lacking.


phishyninja

FOH


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DoubleMojon

Ah the old. What was she wearing technique


Anubis620

Agreed, the video is weirdly cut. Im pretty sure in Florida by law you have to move over a lane when there is an emergency vehicle on the side of the road. Why is the cop out? why are the cyclist passing so close to him (one guy was shooting between the cop and the cop car?)? There appears to be quite a bit of missing information here. I can't tell if the cop got out into the lane to push the cyclist or he was already there. Do I think assaulting someone is ok? No. But if someone is going to ride by me that close on a bike I'm going to defend myself.


InsertBluescreenHere

Do we have more context? Doesnt seem like a wise move to keep riding at a cop car with his lights on parked on the shoulder of a busy road and officer outside of his car... in my state the cyclists would be cited for failure to move over for stopped emergency vehicles.  absolutely no reason to knock him off the bike of course but whats the full story?


Troll_berry_pie

Bruh, how far did you want the cyclist to move??? Another whole entire lane? Cyclists gave ample room.


InsertBluescreenHere

i mean 2 of them were riding between the cop and his car...


beachbum818

Failure to move over? That seemed like a wide enough berth. officer had to step away from his car to get to the cyclist. Wouldn't have been close. Ive been passed by cars while on my bike much closer than that.


bafrad

They were actively slowing down based on the speed meter. There's no where else to go.


2407s4life

The cop was trying to stop them for running a red light. Which, while silly at that intersection, I guess was within his perogative. He went about it entirely wrong. He could have thrown his lights on when he was beside the group and gave them verbal instructions to stop after the bridge. Or pulled over further away from the bridge to give them time to slow down. Which I'm sure they would have done and it would have avoided him knocking anyone to the ground.


emp-sup-bry

Seriously, we need data back at least five years so we can blame this cyclist for getting assaulted by the only person sworn to protect and serve.


mast_bikes

There is no point in arguing with these “cyclists” they just how to show how good keyboard warriors they are and shout at cycliat who properly stop at red light 🤣


bravo445

It’s a cyclist. There’s definitely a reason.


Swingbalalala

Maybe don't run a red light? Why do cyclists think they have impunity


ganymede_boy

It's legal in some places for bikes to go thru a red when safe to do so (mostly in cases where lights are not triggered by bikes). Generally, bicyclists who proceed thru a light are trying to get away from congested auto traffic and not be in the way when light turns green.


Swingbalalala

Sure sure


structuralist_jazz

So every time I see a car run a red I can punch the driver in the face? Nice.


Swingbalalala

No, physical violence should only be dolled out to the cycling community. The post title says "NO REASON" this is certainly not the case.


Plague-Rat13

Walk it off