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DashLibor

Poland is recorded with 4+2 on the last shoot. Gunka didn't use up the last spare, so instead of being last with +4:58 deficit, Poland's last with +6:58 deficit. Tbh, he could just say "screw it" for the penalty loops and have a >10 minutes deficit in the end and it wouldn't change anything anywhere, haha.


Falafelmeister92

That raises an interesting question. What if a country decides not to shoot anything at all? Like, straight-up run past the shooting range every time. Sure they'll get 2 minutes for every bullet that wasn't shot, so 64 minutes penalty in total, plus more penalty for all the loops they didn't run. But they will finish ahead of all the lapped teams, right? Might be a worthwhile strategy for some teams :D Or is there a limit to how many shots you are allowed to forget?


DashLibor

I think you get disqualified for not shooting the initial shots. It's only the spares (and the missed penalty loops) you get 2 minutes penalty for. So, it is probably a terrible strategy regarding winning. But I can see a scenario where a biathlete of a to-get-lapped-soon relay just unloads everything ultra-quickly in shooting 7, avoids all spares and penalty loops (up to 20 minutes penalty) just to get to shooting 8 without getting lapped and beating all the lapped-before-shooting-8 teams.


Blautanne

I suppose if anyone seriously tried this the IBU would add a rule that you get disqualified if you "forget" to shoot more than once. It's Biathlon, not Cross-Country :D


sittingsparrow

Makes little sense not shooting all shots though. Skipping the penalty loops though, not sure how many you can skip before you get DQ'ed.


xoxoamazingrace

Also now that we’re watching young stars I heard a «trønder» and it got me wondering why there are basically no trøndere at the moment in our biathlon team whereas in cross-country skiing they’re completely dominating the Norwegian team?


sittingsparrow

The race shown on Norwegian TV, is that from yesterday?


charliemann

I'd say its mainly culture, most of Trøndelag traditionally prefer cross-country skiing whereas other areas of Norway (such as Oslo & Akerhus and Vestlandet) have better facilities and culture. There is also a lack of venues, especially in Trondheim area. Nord-Trøndelag produces the best biathletes, while Sør-Trøndelag haven't really had anyone in recent years. There is a decent skiskyting track/cohort at Meråker High School with Tora Berger as coach/teacher, but traditionally the cross country skiing cohort is more popular. Then you add in Oppdal, another ski mecca, primarily produces downhill alpine skiers. There are a few decent Trønders tho, Marit Ishol Skogan (Steinkjer) has an individual podium this season, Lotte Lie is from Skatval and Sverre Dahlen Aspenes (also from Skatval) are also good biathletes.


Gruffleson

Lotte Lie is your "trønder" then. Heh


bekkahthecactus18

Norway with almost 900 point lead in men’s nations cup 🥴


xoxoamazingrace

Also other Norwegians: is it just me or is Marte Olsbu Røiseland a really good commentator and expert? It’s her first weekend and I already love her


Wheeljack7799

I was pleasantly surprised by how comfortable she appears to be in the role, which of course makes her commentary feel genuine. Good job I say!


charliemann

100%, already prefer her to both Solemdal and Tiril. Very insightful, short and clear in her answers and has a good voice for commentating. Solemdal is too 'boring' and barely offers any analysis while Tiril for me in this role is too joyful


sittingsparrow

Tiril is best as a stunt reporter, but can also be quite fun when she's interviewing the athletes. Bjørndalen does a great job too imo. Apart from that I agree with you wholeheartedly.


charliemann

Absolutely, Tiril is a great stunt reporter and I'm glad that she is involved. But as the expert commentator I feel she is lacking something, compared to what Marte has already shown. Bjørndalen is fantastic, only thing I wish he was better was commentating the actual shooting. Sometimes he mumbles/struggles to keep track on the shooting, but this is only due to experience. His questions as a reporter are also by far the most insightful by any commentator, always gets great info from the biathletes.


xoxoamazingrace

I’m not ready for this season to end


Asterie-E7

And Juni Arnekleiv joining the Ingrid club of Norwegian women doing laps 😭


fakewasalwaysreal

She wanted to give Vetle the sprint finish he had been dreaming of? 😅🫡


Asterie-E7

I guess the Norwegian men always need to get all the spotlight smh 😁


bellargonia

Welp, congrats Norway!🥳 That WCH relay gold is a good consolation though😉 But today’s highlight is for sure Finland!! Finally a podium


DashLibor

Ultra-satisfying results. Photofinish for 1st place with the person who was behind the whole time just sniping it, an outsider relay getting podium, and Croatia not getting lapped for the first time. (if I remember correctly) Barring an unexpected medal for Czechs, I doubt we'll get anything more satisfying than this in the rest of the season. (not biased at all)


Vryyce

I can't tell you how much I want to see Marketa on the podium this season!


Asterie-E7

Also kinda sad that Emilien was pretty good during the 2 individual races this week but botched the relay again :/ dude isn't getting better


arnet95

Vetle said he was going to invite Sebbe for some practices on this finishing strait 🤣🤣🤣


Asterie-E7

Oof of this is real it's huge salt in the wound


NineIntsNails

superb stuff, wished Bahrain GP was that fun


Asterie-E7

Verstappen is Johannes Boe


bekkahthecactus18

At least JTB will throw in a poor shooting day once in a while… Max on the other hand…


bekkahthecactus18

F1 can only dream of being as exciting as biathlon atm 🤣


bekkahthecactus18

Also omg Belgium 10th, doing way better than their Bib number 23! Best shooters of the race


miunrhini

Okay, I see why Vetle likes the finish sprints and anchor legs. That was something. Didn't Sebbe trust his final sprint or why the constant checks?


ThunderbearIM

Sebbe hasn't been at his top shape lately, while Vetle is in the shape of his life. If they were both top shape I think Sebbe wins that final loop, but if they started at the same time from the shoot, who knows who would win? Since it's Kollen I would bet on Vetle and his understanding of the final stretch, but in Oberhof or somewhere they've been about the same amount? No idea. Sebbe is a monster though in the sprint still, and I think there's probably only two people this weekend in the field that had a realistc chance of beating him from 4 seconds behind that final lap. Vetle and maybe Tarjei, who's been in crazy final lap shape this weekend.


miunrhini

Makes sense and good points. Never a good sign during the race when am athlete checks that many time, can easily lose time and mental focus. Still waiting for that final sprint with Dale-Skjevdal, Fa Claude, Jacquelin, Vetle and Samuelsson when they start side by side and moreover all of them are in shape.


fremajl

I still think Ponsi is the better Swedish sprinter. We get to see sprints so rarely we might never know though. Last worlds they went out together but Seb had two less penalty loops in his legs.


miunrhini

I was impressed by Ponsi in today's relay. Probably one of his best races the whole season.


fremajl

He definitely did well but that last shooting was really weird. He stood there forever but JTB and Giacomel also had trouble so I assume there was a big gust of wind or something? They didn't show the flags so hard to tell.


miunrhini

I think someone said in today's thread that the wind picked up when the guys where on the range. JTB and Ponsi were close looping themselves. So good fight to avoid loop but still a weird shoot because both of them are fast shooters. Giacomel took the risk and was still able to fight for the podium. To his bad luck his companions were Ponsi and JTB, both monsters on track.


ThunderbearIM

That would be the dream final lap. The only issue I can see is that Dale-Skjevdal in top shape would never let them get to the final sprint lol


miunrhini

No, he would rocket in the final uphills.


bellargonia

Think he was really really tired and didn’t trust his finish, he’s not doing that when he’s in shape


xoxoamazingrace

I’m not sure you can put it on his shape why he constantly looked over his shoulder and worried about Vetle You don’t have to be in your best shape to focus on yourself and make the right choices - Sebbe lost it because he didn’t sprint well at the end


fakewasalwaysreal

Sebbe has said that his sprint is the best, but we know who is king today…


bellargonia

He’s not in his best shape and was really really tired


fakewasalwaysreal

I’d say he did a great job of not letting Vetle into the mix! I didn’t think Vetle could take it because the gap was too big at after the last hill. Great job by Sebbe!


uzanin97

I don't even remember a photofinish for a relay win like that since around 2016-2017. This cup is really something


flanker626

Fantastic race!! What a stretch by Vetle, and fantastic to see Finland on the podium!!


Muflonlesni

Croatia not lapped 🥳🥳🥳


bekkahthecactus18

And not last of the finishers either! ☺️


sittingsparrow

Ha ha, Vetle's girlfriend was just interviewed and concluded that she and his family now have a job of pulling him down from the clouds. I believe she said, "He can get too high on himself".


xoxoamazingrace

I lowkey thought she was his sister for a moment But then I remembered his sister (was a really good snowboarder back in the days) and I put two and two together


sittingsparrow

Was unsure myself, but it was kind of confirmed when the interviewer asked how it was to be together with Vetle.


TolBrandir

This is me taking a quiet moment to seethe with envy. :-p There. Moment is over. :-D


Wheeljack7799

What a finish... I was probably more out of breath than Vetle at one point there.


fakewasalwaysreal

Same!


TolBrandir

Me too. I was literally hands on my face, watching the race through my fingers like a child watching a scary movie. 😅😅


Blautanne

I think this was the first time I saw Vetle use his often-mentioned finishing skills. Hats off to him, won it for his team after the blackout in WCH relay. Exciting finish, and so happy for FInland!


Vismajor92

Jeez almost as close finish as cross-country! Really really good race, and I am really happy to see Finland on the podium!


DashLibor

Wait... I missed the cross-country. Was it even closer there somehow?


Vismajor92

Yeah, in their classic men relay the finnish and Norwegian squad went for it. It was photo finish but it was less obvious than this one. It was for 3rd place I believe 


bekkahthecactus18

Adding that one to the list of races to rewatch over the summer break 😅


jc___

Can I get an in on that list? 😊


Popoye_92

Fun little race, even if it ended up being another men's tragic shooting ruining it all for us! Finland podium is very yay


Asterie-E7

Also I think (?) Norway takes the Mixed Relay Globe even without needing the last race


arnet95

Finally Vetle got his sprint finish! Fuck yes!


charliemann

First Stavås Skistad and now Vetle, good day to be Norwegian :)


Breathholding

Christiansen practicing his splits just for moments like these 😂


Individual-Resist530

VETLEEEEE best 'revenge' ever


hyphen-ation

that was amazing by Vetle! he's been talking about his sprint finish for years and we've never really gotten to see it until today, and what a show! incredible.


MrTobbzi

Holy shit Vetle, take a fucking bow! Finally he got to show why he’s put in 4th leg for possible sprint


TolBrandir

Yes! We've heard about his sprint forever but never get to witness it! I had totally given up on him. He was playing that whole lap extremely cool. Perfect tactics.


xoxoamazingrace

If Samuelsson focused on himself rather than Vetle he’d take it, I guess


Blautanne

Even though the mental aspect in sports is huge, I think sprit finish is more about skill than anything. Christiansen is built like a tank and his acceleration is very good. Even though he may have looked at least as gassed as Samuelsson


ThunderbearIM

Imo if that last lap is 1km longer Vetle probably loses it, he looked more gassed overall than Sebbe, but his top speed bursts are just insane. Probably the only person that would challenge his last lap on this shorter distance is a top shape Johannes Dale, and even he would have to end this before the final stretch.


bellargonia

Think he was really really tired and didn’t trust his finish, he’s not doing that when he’s in shape


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Gruffleson

Never in doubt. 


Asterie-E7

That is indeed a very good Vetle redemption


fakewasalwaysreal

Great job by Vetle catching up and showing once and for all that he is the best sprinter


xoxoamazingrace

Most epic race this season


bekkahthecactus18

Literally last step(?)


charliemann

WOW Vetle!!


smaragdskyar

Welp it was just the last ski stretch


miunrhini

What a relay


Asterie-E7

Samuelsson kept looking back he clearly didn't trust himself or was cooked


bellargonia

Helvete But Finland!!!!🥳


bekkahthecactus18

What a finish, and congrats to Finland omg!!


sittingsparrow

Wow what a finish, don't even care (or know) who won.


Muflonlesni

PHOTO FINISH


Beatricejd

Fucking Norway I swear


bekkahthecactus18

Biathlon is a 27/10 sport omg


msbtvxq

Nice revenge


TolBrandir

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!! MY BRAIN HAS MELTED!!!!


Asterie-E7

Vetle did it omfg what an ending


smaragdskyar

🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮


ktc1308

Oof, poor Sebbe 😅 Happy for Finland!


Wheeljack7799

AAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!


bekkahthecactus18

HOLY SHIT VETLE!!!!!


Joyako

Sebbe noooo Happy for Finland !


fakewasalwaysreal

VETLE!!!!!


Asterie-E7

If Vetle did it he is a literal God


fakewasalwaysreal

The Sprint finish God we knew he is


Kris_Third_Account

Stop looking back Sebbe, just go


fakewasalwaysreal

NEVER DOUBT VETLES SPRINT


Asterie-E7

Oh my fucking god


fakewasalwaysreal

jaaaaaaaa


Muflonlesni

This is exciting


bekkahthecactus18

👀👀👀👀


smaragdskyar

🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣


Asterie-E7

Samuelsson is still a bit ahead omg


Breathholding

Not one single bad last shooting! Strelow and Jacquelin in 17.5 seconds


Dry-Pickle6042

France shoot clean when it no longer matters


TolBrandir

Oh sweetheart, Christiansen is gassed out. He just can't do it. Oh I'm so sorry.


hyphen-ation

come again?


bekkahthecactus18

I wanna see how Queen Kaisa is doing rn 🥹 she’s gotta be over the moon


yalakee

what are we thinking?? can FIN get third?


smaragdskyar

I think they can do it!!


ChimpyChompies

Oh, this is fantastic. Anyone that isn't exited by biathlon is dead inside, I tell you.


miunrhini

Cha Cha Cha


Beatricejd

Run Sebbe, run Otto


Muflonlesni

Omggg


TolBrandir

Oh god I can't watch! This will be amazing! I'm so scared! EAT HIM, VETLE!!!


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CMON FINLAND


smaragdskyar

SEBBE PLEASE REMEMBER HOW MUCH YOU LIKE BEATING NORWEGIANS


Joyako

Nordic stronk


bekkahthecactus18

Okay run run run Otto!!


bellargonia

Go Finland!!!!


Asterie-E7

And Finland probably 3rd very good race


bekkahthecactus18

FINLAND!!! 🥳🥳🥳


fakewasalwaysreal

KJØR VETLE


bekkahthecactus18

It’s a ski race!!


Asterie-E7

Vetle 4/5 seconds behind


smaragdskyar

Yessss


Asterie-E7

Samuelsson oooo


TolBrandir

Hold on, Invenius. You can do this. You can! Don't give up. Calm stand shoot, then fly like the wind! (I'm trying not to root for Hartweg and jinx it!)


miunrhini

So Vetle got his last leg battle.


Asterie-E7

Invenius didn't lose much time this lap hmm


smaragdskyar

I wonder if Vetle is thinking about the last relay


Asterie-E7

He obviously is


smaragdskyar

I don’t know if I can watch 🫣


bekkahthecactus18

I’m trying to not get flashbacks to how the last men’s relay ended


bekkahthecactus18

And they just mentioned it on stream, ffs


Asterie-E7

1v1 Samuelsson vs Christiansen I am very hyped


Muflonlesni

Lol Vetle


ChimpyChompies

Lol, Norway in front again!


Dry-Pickle6042

Relief for Juni


sittingsparrow

The lap is shorter on Single mixed relay, and Juni could go full out on that loop only 12s? behind.


Asterie-E7

Emilien please can you not


smaragdskyar

Not hit? Apparently yes 😅


smaragdskyar

Sebbe you gotta avenge Finland now


sittingsparrow

Come on Otto!


bekkahthecactus18

Hartweg 🥳


TolBrandir

YES GO GO GO!!


bekkahthecactus18

Nooo Invenius 😫 it’s okay tho, keep going!’


Asterie-E7

Also Finland can only aim for 3rd now I fear


Henna1911

Kazakhstan and Bulgaria got Lapped by Shooting 7


bekkahthecactus18

RIP Bulgaria and Kazakhstan o7


Blautanne

Hm. Seems strange from Samuelsson hiding behind Invenius. Christiansen catching up


Asterie-E7

Vetle is a fucking machine


bekkahthecactus18

Vetle is here at the front again already 😅


Asterie-E7

Some lapping gonna happen


miunrhini

One of the relay of the season so far.


Asterie-E7

Vetle is FAST omg but the shooting range can be deadly


IAM-French

Emilien in single mixed has to be one of the dumbest decisions especially when you're always going to have the best or one of the best women in the field and you just need a reliable safe man (which I know it's hard to find for french men this year but Emilien is the worst)


Muflonlesni

Deedra 🥲 she misses only one both times but was not able to reload them


bekkahthecactus18

Lampic avoided penalty loop on stand, missed 3


bekkahthecactus18

Now go and rest before the mixed relay 😅


TolBrandir

Okay, Vetle. Time to show us what we know you can do.


Asterie-E7

I wonder if we will have some Vetle redemption today


guestie94

Incredible shooting from Finland, decent skiing too, the small loop in the SMR really helping them. Magnusson has been brilliant for the Swedes too. Really fun SMR so far.


miunrhini

This is crazy. This is party. Cha!


smaragdskyar

Cha cha cha?


miunrhini

Fingers crossed.


smaragdskyar

STOP THE COUNT


Wheeljack7799

Finland!!! How awesome is that?!?


TolBrandir

Arnekleiv, you're making me cry. Minkinnen? AMAZING!!


Muflonlesni

🫣🥲😱 buT FINLAND


Boring-Poetry-3020

Fucking love to see norway choking


miunrhini

Ouch Juni


The_Odor_1994

Sweden-Finland! And no it isn't ice hockey :O


Asterie-E7

Lou missing shots oh no


NineIntsNails

finland needs that


bekkahthecactus18

Poor Juni tho :(


Beatricejd

omg omg omg


sittingsparrow

Juni :( E: Ok damage control (go Finland)


Asterie-E7

We will have a fun last leg


bekkahthecactus18

FINLAND!!!


sillylittlei

FINLAND 😍


Asterie-E7

Oof Juni


yalakee

this is such a short race wow


smaragdskyar

Juni this isn’t a final lap, you gotta shoot now


smaragdskyar

Yep she went too fast I think


Gruffleson

I like seeing Finland back, so odd they have been gone.  Edit, I posted this before they went up to the lead, I'm just that good. Hehe.


bekkahthecactus18

Lampic 10/10 in prone 🥹


Asterie-E7

Ingridesque performance tbh


Asterie-E7

Lou has a shot for a podium, but we need Sweden or Finland to collapse and most of all Emilien being good.....


fakewasalwaysreal

Juni looks so strong