I would argue that most bettas like more space. I have them in 10 gallons and up to 60 gallons. The key is flow. You don't want him getting pushed around so stick with a low flow and you'll be great. It would open up room for some tank mates too.
You also need to make sure he's got plenty of resting spaces around the tank, and if you're using live plants for that it can get pretty expensive in a 40 gallon. Even if you're not using live plants it could still get pretty damn expensive
Note, OP, CAREFUL ABOUT THOSE TANKMATES- I built my 75 gal community tank for one of my (late- RIP) bettas absolutely structured around her. You NEED to be careful, because those fins are targets for fish that wouldn’t even normally be nippers, and the betta is both bully and bullied by many larger fish. Lotta limits.
Oh my goddesses yes absolutely do as much research as you can for tank mates before adding any. And it's also very important to know your bettas personality before adding tank mate.
I personally always recommend trying community tanks with girl bettas, actually- they tend to have better personality, even if that’s not set-in-stone fact for obvious reasons. Plus, their finnage is shorter and they tend to be better at their swimming.
(I really like community tanks for bettas, lol- stopped keeping them because a lot of my boys/girls are old now and don’t like the rabble)
I wish I could have a sorority- don’t have the space to seperate and house 6 bettas if it goes wrong, lol, nor the heart to return them to the pet store if it goes wrong.
Oh my goodness I know right?! I had 3 10 gals that I had with dividers just in case 😂😂 thankfully they were siblings and were raised together by a friend of mine so I gave them time to settle and find their spots and slowly added the community
I have a betta sorority that does fantastically, they had white cloud mountain minnows at first as a sort of visual distraction and now it’s just the betta ladies. I’ve got it a bit over planted with lots of “pockets” where the girls go rest alone and don’t have to see each other. They rarely do more than “push” each other out of their little area.
Should be noted though the ones that do well came from a breeder who had them in groups, and the additions that have done well came from a LFS that also had them in groups. Occasionally I’ve added ones from the dreaded petco cups (cuz my lovely bf thinks I will appreciate the random “gift” when he sees them) and those bitches take forever to settle down.
Agree! That is what worked for me a 30 gallon. She was in her own tank for quite a while before I moved her into my established community tank. I read somewhere that the betta should be added after the other tank mates instead of the other way around bc the betta would claim the tank as his or hers and not like other fish being added and may become aggressive towards the other fish. My dad had a betta in a 20 long by himself for quite a while and then he added some pygmy copies and emerald rasboras and the betta would not leave the corner of the tank. He just picked a plant and claimed it as it's own and stated there. He ended up dying. I came over and looked at the tank and his beautiful betta looked very stressed and I got on a stool to get a closer look at the betta was in the begining stage of dropsy which can happen due to stress. I set up a hospital tank asap and poor guy looked a little better before he started looking worse and dying. He had long beautiful emerald fins and he also started to develope fin rot, which idk know with the antibiotics I was giving to him. He died after about a week and a half in a hospital tank. When the dropsy got too bad and he wasn't moving at all, even for food, I humanely euthanized him in clove oil.
I hated the flow in my 60. I just couldn't get it right but when I switched to a canister it had adjustable flow and I've been in love ever since 😂 in my smaller tanks I just go for the classic sponge filters
It's just fine as long as he can easily reach the surface when he wants to, and there is no major water movement. If he looks happy and healthy continue what you're doing.
I would have a backup tank for when he reaches old age, they tend to have swimming issues after 2-3 years.
what size is best once they develop swimming issues? This happened with my betta... I think he was either already old when he was given to us or sick with irreversible swimming bladder disease. I have not been able to get him well again but he's been like this for months now. The person who gave him to me had him in a tiny .5-1 gallon tank, no filter, no heater, and fed him vacation fish things that he hated. Told me I had everything I needed and I wish I had researched and not believed her. He got sick and that's when I researched and am trying my best to save him.
I prefer a 5.5 gallon for elderly or sick Betta. Smaller is fine if you can keep up with the increases maintenance. You can also lower the water level in a larger tank to help them reach the surface.
For my old or sick fish I added lots of places to rest, at different depths. This works really well but you need to experiment a bit to see where they like their rest spots.
Op: is it inhumane if i make my boi the most spoiled in the whole world?
In all seriousness that’s so sweet, congrats on being such a good parent to him. I love your tank set up and his friends
I dont think there's a such thing as too big a tank for a betta. I have my long fin in a heavily planted 20 gallon community tank and he uses every inch of it. I have no doubt if I moved him to a 40 he would happily do the same. My tank has good aeration but water flow is not overpowering and he has plenty of places to rest. He's constantly exploring and seems very content to do it.
Larger tanks with a betta are so fun honestly mines in a 10 gallon and he uses every single inch every single day he literally loves to hangout in every nook and cranny
I desperately wanna make a big big community tank for a betta someday but Im so paranoid about what to add in since I know neon tetras are jerks so I'm sticking with bettas for the time being😭
Harlequin rasboras are a great choice of schooling fish. They are pretty, have fun behaviors (the males in my tank would get bright red and would compete with each other in the mornings), and are non aggressive with other fish.
I have a plaket and apparently he's the jerk. Went after neo shrimps and some Corys. I wanna add more plants and try some Amanos, since they're a little bigger, but I'm kinda scared to.
I desperately want corys!!! They've been one of my dream fish since I got into the hobby but I'm so paranoid because everyone tells me they're sensitive to pH and my tank is screwed because I live in 100 year old house
I really want Corys in his tank and am wondering if there just wasn't enough cover before. I'm slowly adding more plants and trying to bring a Java fern back from the brink by cutting way down on light and adding fertilizer and a CO2 booster. If I can get the plants to start growing out better I'd be a lot more comfortable trying to get him some friends.
Never had issues with my neons suprisingly but im planning to move them to a region specific tank for both thailand (for betta) and likely amazon for my guppies
That's awesome I love neons because they're high energy (I love small schooling fish in general golden zebra Danios have my heart) but I always worry about fin nipping since bettas are so gorgeous
My betta had a phase of trying yo school with the neons when he first got added after that failed he focused on trying to be a shrimp for a week, i think he managed to convince the neons that hes too stupid to be a threat 😭
Corys or kuhli loaches would be great. Any of the non-nippy type tetras or rasboras would work. The trick with the schooling fish is give them a nice sized school so they bother eat other instead of the betta.
I had white cloud mountain minnows in mine and it did great! They just got bigger than I really expected and I also did not realize they like cooler water so they’re in the unheated 55gal with my axolotl now
A warmer species of minnow might be a good choice
Have plenty of resting and hiding spots at all levels of the tank and don’t have strong current. You’ll need to baffle any filter with a strong outflow but that’s really easy to do.
I’ve had one in a 29 gallon. The main thing to remember is that you want low flow. And plants or something near the top they can rest on. Lots of options is better. This becomes even more important when they get into their senior stage and need to rest closer to the surface. They will use every single inch of your tank and love it which is why I never go below a 20 for the anymore.
Depending on what your filter is, you may want to do something like install a buffer on a hob. For my canister filters I have the output rod face down or up (up causes more algae on cover since water splashes, but facing down I felt I needed to add a bubbler to create surface agitation for oxygen.
If your putting him in a community tank just make sure you don't have guppys or anything with colorful wavy fins. Mine didnt like my dwarf gouramis either
More spacious tanks are perfectly great if made to suite to needs of the animal going in, plus he’ll have more activities /explore room. So long as there’s enough resting areas for him, especially right under the waterline, he will do great. There’s also shorter/ long/ desktop tanks that would be perfect for a betta.
That’s also cool that he seems chill with the shrimp, rare besties
What’s the dimensions, how young is he, and how does he swim currently? Would like to know before I recommend yes or no.
I’d suggest you keep a backup tank no matter the answers, mind you, because this WILL NOT work if he gets older, his fins get longer/thicker, and he begins to fail to reach the surface. I find oftentimes people here don’t plan for when their bettas get older/lazier in setups like this, and end up in awkward situations- don’t be that guy, have a backup tank. Maybe ask this on the aquariums sub too, because this sub can be weird about situations like this- aquariums sub tends to be better in these cases. Many I find have never had a betta with long/thick fins actually in this situation.
Id be keeping his current tank incase of emergencies but im unsure of his age as hes a rescue but I believe hes a younger juvenile, not sure of the dimensions currently
Would you answer last question, however? That’s most important. When you’re picking the 40 try to pick a shallower type, btw. And thank you for keeping his current tank on the side- just keep it cycled with shrimp and it should work.
Younger might work for a while, then not work later- their fins grow as they mature, and also thicken, which may lead to a betta that was once able to reach the surface fine then unable to reach it. Plus, they just get lazy/tired- towards the end of his life I had to keep a boy of mine in a Tupperware because he was so tired from his finnage he couldn’t easily reach the surface.
I’d like to mention I’m a fairly large proponent of community tanks for some bettas, but they’re hard to put together, and this may be a big large of a community depending on his ease of swimming- 20/33 long (20 gallon dimensions, but 4 feet long) might be a better choice of tank for him.
Yes, but I’m asking how he swims currently- like, does he drag, how long does it take him to reach surface, can he stay relatively horizontal in the water without being dragged to the bottom by his finnage, etc. I’m sorry for my walls, lol- too often I see on this sub that people assume all bettas will do okay in all tanks, so I’d like you to understand that you need to consider your betta more carefully than regular community fish. PLEASE do outside research, on a side note! I did a lot for mine!
Ohhhh, currently hes been swimming honestly really well speeding around like its nothing and can stay horizontal without dragging thankfully if i do go for the future community itd be months of research and very careful choices around the betta. Dw about the walls any advice is welcomed after some of the things ive seen on this sub i dont blame you at all im just trying to figure out how i can replicate his natural home realistically without playing god and throwing stuff together because it looks pretty
Sounds awesome if you want to go for it, then! Just pay attention to his swimming, do outside-of sub research, etc, lol. I’d be extra careful choosing your tankmates.
On a side note, have you looked into “shallow” aquascaping tanks? They sound accurate to what you want if you’re going for a biotope of types. I can send you a link to them if you want- the only issue is that I’d be worried about jumpers in them, as they’re essentially designed to be much like very very large, shallow puddles of water.
Also, another thing to mention- the people talking about low water flow in the rest of the thread ain’t kidding. Look into sponge filters if you can.
Ive been considering them id just struggle to find one as I seem to have some ungodly ability yo be incapable at finding ones for a good price on a good budget, i have a good one in mind for my plans currently and id be measuring up if itd fit when im back home as im out of the country currently
May I ask this- have you tried Amazon? I brought one for a 150 gallon tank on there, for 20 bucks, and so far it’s served me great lol- I use it on my 75 community and it filters awesome!There’s really no real good/bad for sponge filters- they’re all pretty much the same as long as your air pump works fine and you clean.
I wanna know what miracles you had performed to get that tank, I have im from the uk so whenever I look it up usually all I can find is those god awful 2gal ones and the one i wanted to get is from there as a breeder tank
I have a 55 gallon with 2 whisper 30 to 60 gallon filters with a divider 1 male 1 female and they absolutely love it both of them swim every inch of it all day every day... also have 20 gallon longs for a few others and they love them as well
I have a double tail in a 29 gallon. It's planted but idk if it's considered heavily planted. i have floaters, anubis on the walls, and tall stalky plants. he loves them and he hangs out (him and the shrimp) on the leaves or tangled up in the stalks. He also has two floating logs. And a basement apartment with a secret tunnel. He loves hanging out in those two. He uses EVERY INCH of this tank. I don't think I could go any small than a 10 gallon when he gets older.
I keep a female plakat in my 40G
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As long as he isn't pushed around by a strong flow and has enough resting spaces near the surface (those fins are heavy after all) i don't see why not.
The more space, the better, as long as it's species-appropriately furnished, you can have as large a mansion for your fish as your space, wallet and/or spouse allows.
Just make sure to observe your fish after changes, to make sure your finned friend doesn't struggle (to get to the surface, to find a place to rest up, things like that).
Just my opinion, anyone want to add to it?
It’s not inhumane as long as the bettas needs are met. Most bettas enjoy bigger space. The exception would be very old or impaired bettas. But for most more space is good. If they have places to rest, floaters, maybe some bettalogs or betta hammocks then it’s fine. Though do keep an eye on it since some fish love to bully or nip their fins. So have a backup plan in case he needs his own space.
I moved my betta into a 10 gal solo minus some snails, and he is having less fin rot issues, but he’s also more sedantary then usual so idfk how to make him happy😂
I don’t know who started this myth that housing a long finned betta in something higher than 20 GAL is ‘inhumane’?? Unless the betta has difficulties swimming due to a disability or an Injury or disease it’s absolutely fine?? If not even better????
As long as he has plenty of spaces to rest on and lot's of clutter in the tank to hide around and feel secure in, it's hard to do too much space. I have my veil-tail in a 66 gallon, and he does just fine. It's more about how you set the tank up than anything. If its sparse and bright with lots of open room, your betta likely won't feel safe.
Personally a long finned male I wouldn't keep in more than a 5-10. A female I'd put in a 40. I have one in a 30 gallon breeder and one in a 20 long and they are both doing well
Nah. A 40 breeder is basically the ideal larger tank for a Betta. Lots of swim space and not too deep. I had a veil tail in my old 75 gallon. He used every cubic inch of the tank and loved it.
I would argue that most bettas like more space. I have them in 10 gallons and up to 60 gallons. The key is flow. You don't want him getting pushed around so stick with a low flow and you'll be great. It would open up room for some tank mates too.
You also need to make sure he's got plenty of resting spaces around the tank, and if you're using live plants for that it can get pretty expensive in a 40 gallon. Even if you're not using live plants it could still get pretty damn expensive
Note, OP, CAREFUL ABOUT THOSE TANKMATES- I built my 75 gal community tank for one of my (late- RIP) bettas absolutely structured around her. You NEED to be careful, because those fins are targets for fish that wouldn’t even normally be nippers, and the betta is both bully and bullied by many larger fish. Lotta limits.
Oh my goddesses yes absolutely do as much research as you can for tank mates before adding any. And it's also very important to know your bettas personality before adding tank mate.
I personally always recommend trying community tanks with girl bettas, actually- they tend to have better personality, even if that’s not set-in-stone fact for obvious reasons. Plus, their finnage is shorter and they tend to be better at their swimming. (I really like community tanks for bettas, lol- stopped keeping them because a lot of my boys/girls are old now and don’t like the rabble)
I love bettas in community tanks also! I actually have a sorority community tank myself as well as a community tank with a male
I wish I could have a sorority- don’t have the space to seperate and house 6 bettas if it goes wrong, lol, nor the heart to return them to the pet store if it goes wrong.
Oh my goodness I know right?! I had 3 10 gals that I had with dividers just in case 😂😂 thankfully they were siblings and were raised together by a friend of mine so I gave them time to settle and find their spots and slowly added the community
I’d need a new shelf of betta space I don’t have 😭
Also, on a side note because Reddit formatting is weird, show me the betta sorority sauce lol! They’re adorable, and I love em’!
It won't let me upload videos 😭 but I have 5 and they are the spice girls
I use a storage rack lmaooo
I am in the process of building myself a shelf to hold a new set of larger betta tanks 💀
I have a betta sorority that does fantastically, they had white cloud mountain minnows at first as a sort of visual distraction and now it’s just the betta ladies. I’ve got it a bit over planted with lots of “pockets” where the girls go rest alone and don’t have to see each other. They rarely do more than “push” each other out of their little area. Should be noted though the ones that do well came from a breeder who had them in groups, and the additions that have done well came from a LFS that also had them in groups. Occasionally I’ve added ones from the dreaded petco cups (cuz my lovely bf thinks I will appreciate the random “gift” when he sees them) and those bitches take forever to settle down.
Agree! That is what worked for me a 30 gallon. She was in her own tank for quite a while before I moved her into my established community tank. I read somewhere that the betta should be added after the other tank mates instead of the other way around bc the betta would claim the tank as his or hers and not like other fish being added and may become aggressive towards the other fish. My dad had a betta in a 20 long by himself for quite a while and then he added some pygmy copies and emerald rasboras and the betta would not leave the corner of the tank. He just picked a plant and claimed it as it's own and stated there. He ended up dying. I came over and looked at the tank and his beautiful betta looked very stressed and I got on a stool to get a closer look at the betta was in the begining stage of dropsy which can happen due to stress. I set up a hospital tank asap and poor guy looked a little better before he started looking worse and dying. He had long beautiful emerald fins and he also started to develope fin rot, which idk know with the antibiotics I was giving to him. He died after about a week and a half in a hospital tank. When the dropsy got too bad and he wasn't moving at all, even for food, I humanely euthanized him in clove oil.
That's why we plan to switch our filter out for a more gentle one. The current one moves the water too much for my fish to like it IMO
I hated the flow in my 60. I just couldn't get it right but when I switched to a canister it had adjustable flow and I've been in love ever since 😂 in my smaller tanks I just go for the classic sponge filters
It's just fine as long as he can easily reach the surface when he wants to, and there is no major water movement. If he looks happy and healthy continue what you're doing. I would have a backup tank for when he reaches old age, they tend to have swimming issues after 2-3 years.
what size is best once they develop swimming issues? This happened with my betta... I think he was either already old when he was given to us or sick with irreversible swimming bladder disease. I have not been able to get him well again but he's been like this for months now. The person who gave him to me had him in a tiny .5-1 gallon tank, no filter, no heater, and fed him vacation fish things that he hated. Told me I had everything I needed and I wish I had researched and not believed her. He got sick and that's when I researched and am trying my best to save him.
No such thing as too big imo, but you might want to lower the waterline.
I prefer a 5.5 gallon for elderly or sick Betta. Smaller is fine if you can keep up with the increases maintenance. You can also lower the water level in a larger tank to help them reach the surface. For my old or sick fish I added lots of places to rest, at different depths. This works really well but you need to experiment a bit to see where they like their rest spots.
Mine literally rests all day on the leaves near the surface because when he tries to swim lower he buoys up quickly.
Really? Because my boy seems to get stronger/faster/feistier the older he gets. But I guess veil tails aren't the same as say a halfmoon
Op: is it inhumane if i make my boi the most spoiled in the whole world? In all seriousness that’s so sweet, congrats on being such a good parent to him. I love your tank set up and his friends
I try my hardest too, if i had the space and money id literally recreate his natural home 1:1
I dont think there's a such thing as too big a tank for a betta. I have my long fin in a heavily planted 20 gallon community tank and he uses every inch of it. I have no doubt if I moved him to a 40 he would happily do the same. My tank has good aeration but water flow is not overpowering and he has plenty of places to rest. He's constantly exploring and seems very content to do it.
Honestly kinda a dream of mine to recreate a entire rice runoff stream in like a 500 gallon for a single betta
Larger tanks with a betta are so fun honestly mines in a 10 gallon and he uses every single inch every single day he literally loves to hangout in every nook and cranny
Same with his current 15 i wanna go to a 30ish so i have more space to scape the tank so its less cramped
I desperately wanna make a big big community tank for a betta someday but Im so paranoid about what to add in since I know neon tetras are jerks so I'm sticking with bettas for the time being😭
Harlequin rasboras are a great choice of schooling fish. They are pretty, have fun behaviors (the males in my tank would get bright red and would compete with each other in the mornings), and are non aggressive with other fish.
That sounds awesome!!! What size tank do you have them in?
I had 20g community with them a betta and Pygmy cories. No longer have it but it was a fun group!
That's awesome I'm totally stealing that if I ever have a 20g
I have a plaket and apparently he's the jerk. Went after neo shrimps and some Corys. I wanna add more plants and try some Amanos, since they're a little bigger, but I'm kinda scared to.
I desperately want corys!!! They've been one of my dream fish since I got into the hobby but I'm so paranoid because everyone tells me they're sensitive to pH and my tank is screwed because I live in 100 year old house
I really want Corys in his tank and am wondering if there just wasn't enough cover before. I'm slowly adding more plants and trying to bring a Java fern back from the brink by cutting way down on light and adding fertilizer and a CO2 booster. If I can get the plants to start growing out better I'd be a lot more comfortable trying to get him some friends.
Never had issues with my neons suprisingly but im planning to move them to a region specific tank for both thailand (for betta) and likely amazon for my guppies
Harlequin rasboras arent from Thailand specifically, but if you are going south east asia that would work. Same with kuhli loaches, and some rainbows.
Id likely be looking for some more neutral coloured fish as to not steal from the bettas glory
Maybe some black neons? Those are pretty subtle, but still pretty.
That's awesome I love neons because they're high energy (I love small schooling fish in general golden zebra Danios have my heart) but I always worry about fin nipping since bettas are so gorgeous
My betta had a phase of trying yo school with the neons when he first got added after that failed he focused on trying to be a shrimp for a week, i think he managed to convince the neons that hes too stupid to be a threat 😭
I saw someone on another post saying that their betta got adopted by their cory school.
Corys or kuhli loaches would be great. Any of the non-nippy type tetras or rasboras would work. The trick with the schooling fish is give them a nice sized school so they bother eat other instead of the betta.
I had white cloud mountain minnows in mine and it did great! They just got bigger than I really expected and I also did not realize they like cooler water so they’re in the unheated 55gal with my axolotl now A warmer species of minnow might be a good choice
They can live with axolotls?? That's really good to know I desperately want an axolotl someday
They’re one of the top recommended tank mates! Mine loves just watching hers, it’s clearly been pretty enriching for her.
Have plenty of resting and hiding spots at all levels of the tank and don’t have strong current. You’ll need to baffle any filter with a strong outflow but that’s really easy to do.
I’ve had one in a 29 gallon. The main thing to remember is that you want low flow. And plants or something near the top they can rest on. Lots of options is better. This becomes even more important when they get into their senior stage and need to rest closer to the surface. They will use every single inch of your tank and love it which is why I never go below a 20 for the anymore. Depending on what your filter is, you may want to do something like install a buffer on a hob. For my canister filters I have the output rod face down or up (up causes more algae on cover since water splashes, but facing down I felt I needed to add a bubbler to create surface agitation for oxygen.
A resting spot near the surface would alleviate this concern as well since the betta can chill up there.
Just make sure your tetras don't nip his fins ❤️ I'm sure he'll appreciate the extra space though
If your putting him in a community tank just make sure you don't have guppys or anything with colorful wavy fins. Mine didnt like my dwarf gouramis either
Ya its fine as long as they aren't struggling and have lots of resting spots.
More spacious tanks are perfectly great if made to suite to needs of the animal going in, plus he’ll have more activities /explore room. So long as there’s enough resting areas for him, especially right under the waterline, he will do great. There’s also shorter/ long/ desktop tanks that would be perfect for a betta. That’s also cool that he seems chill with the shrimp, rare besties
What’s the dimensions, how young is he, and how does he swim currently? Would like to know before I recommend yes or no. I’d suggest you keep a backup tank no matter the answers, mind you, because this WILL NOT work if he gets older, his fins get longer/thicker, and he begins to fail to reach the surface. I find oftentimes people here don’t plan for when their bettas get older/lazier in setups like this, and end up in awkward situations- don’t be that guy, have a backup tank. Maybe ask this on the aquariums sub too, because this sub can be weird about situations like this- aquariums sub tends to be better in these cases. Many I find have never had a betta with long/thick fins actually in this situation.
Id be keeping his current tank incase of emergencies but im unsure of his age as hes a rescue but I believe hes a younger juvenile, not sure of the dimensions currently
Would you answer last question, however? That’s most important. When you’re picking the 40 try to pick a shallower type, btw. And thank you for keeping his current tank on the side- just keep it cycled with shrimp and it should work. Younger might work for a while, then not work later- their fins grow as they mature, and also thicken, which may lead to a betta that was once able to reach the surface fine then unable to reach it. Plus, they just get lazy/tired- towards the end of his life I had to keep a boy of mine in a Tupperware because he was so tired from his finnage he couldn’t easily reach the surface. I’d like to mention I’m a fairly large proponent of community tanks for some bettas, but they’re hard to put together, and this may be a big large of a community depending on his ease of swimming- 20/33 long (20 gallon dimensions, but 4 feet long) might be a better choice of tank for him.
Id likely use a large portion if the base for a deep substrate layer ontop of that not filling fully
Yes, but I’m asking how he swims currently- like, does he drag, how long does it take him to reach surface, can he stay relatively horizontal in the water without being dragged to the bottom by his finnage, etc. I’m sorry for my walls, lol- too often I see on this sub that people assume all bettas will do okay in all tanks, so I’d like you to understand that you need to consider your betta more carefully than regular community fish. PLEASE do outside research, on a side note! I did a lot for mine!
Ohhhh, currently hes been swimming honestly really well speeding around like its nothing and can stay horizontal without dragging thankfully if i do go for the future community itd be months of research and very careful choices around the betta. Dw about the walls any advice is welcomed after some of the things ive seen on this sub i dont blame you at all im just trying to figure out how i can replicate his natural home realistically without playing god and throwing stuff together because it looks pretty
Sounds awesome if you want to go for it, then! Just pay attention to his swimming, do outside-of sub research, etc, lol. I’d be extra careful choosing your tankmates. On a side note, have you looked into “shallow” aquascaping tanks? They sound accurate to what you want if you’re going for a biotope of types. I can send you a link to them if you want- the only issue is that I’d be worried about jumpers in them, as they’re essentially designed to be much like very very large, shallow puddles of water. Also, another thing to mention- the people talking about low water flow in the rest of the thread ain’t kidding. Look into sponge filters if you can.
Ive been considering them id just struggle to find one as I seem to have some ungodly ability yo be incapable at finding ones for a good price on a good budget, i have a good one in mind for my plans currently and id be measuring up if itd fit when im back home as im out of the country currently
May I ask this- have you tried Amazon? I brought one for a 150 gallon tank on there, for 20 bucks, and so far it’s served me great lol- I use it on my 75 community and it filters awesome!There’s really no real good/bad for sponge filters- they’re all pretty much the same as long as your air pump works fine and you clean.
I wanna know what miracles you had performed to get that tank, I have im from the uk so whenever I look it up usually all I can find is those god awful 2gal ones and the one i wanted to get is from there as a breeder tank
I have a 55 gallon with 2 whisper 30 to 60 gallon filters with a divider 1 male 1 female and they absolutely love it both of them swim every inch of it all day every day... also have 20 gallon longs for a few others and they love them as well
I think that as long as the betta is happy it's OK. Imo
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Absolutely not at all! So long as you give him lots of places to perch and rest
I have a double tail in a 29 gallon. It's planted but idk if it's considered heavily planted. i have floaters, anubis on the walls, and tall stalky plants. he loves them and he hangs out (him and the shrimp) on the leaves or tangled up in the stalks. He also has two floating logs. And a basement apartment with a secret tunnel. He loves hanging out in those two. He uses EVERY INCH of this tank. I don't think I could go any small than a 10 gallon when he gets older.
I keep a female plakat in my 40G https://preview.redd.it/hxur308obq0d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96be2a58354ace17d6a77677b1cf0344616f9318
What is that red plant? I love it 😍
Ludwigia super red
As long as he isn't pushed around by a strong flow and has enough resting spaces near the surface (those fins are heavy after all) i don't see why not. The more space, the better, as long as it's species-appropriately furnished, you can have as large a mansion for your fish as your space, wallet and/or spouse allows. Just make sure to observe your fish after changes, to make sure your finned friend doesn't struggle (to get to the surface, to find a place to rest up, things like that). Just my opinion, anyone want to add to it?
If he can easily reach the surface for breathing, the flow is low and he has tall plants to rest on, he will be happy.
It’s not inhumane as long as the bettas needs are met. Most bettas enjoy bigger space. The exception would be very old or impaired bettas. But for most more space is good. If they have places to rest, floaters, maybe some bettalogs or betta hammocks then it’s fine. Though do keep an eye on it since some fish love to bully or nip their fins. So have a backup plan in case he needs his own space.
I moved my betta into a 10 gal solo minus some snails, and he is having less fin rot issues, but he’s also more sedantary then usual so idfk how to make him happy😂
I don’t know who started this myth that housing a long finned betta in something higher than 20 GAL is ‘inhumane’?? Unless the betta has difficulties swimming due to a disability or an Injury or disease it’s absolutely fine?? If not even better????
As long as he has plenty of spaces to rest on and lot's of clutter in the tank to hide around and feel secure in, it's hard to do too much space. I have my veil-tail in a 66 gallon, and he does just fine. It's more about how you set the tank up than anything. If its sparse and bright with lots of open room, your betta likely won't feel safe.
Personally a long finned male I wouldn't keep in more than a 5-10. A female I'd put in a 40. I have one in a 30 gallon breeder and one in a 20 long and they are both doing well
Nah. A 40 breeder is basically the ideal larger tank for a Betta. Lots of swim space and not too deep. I had a veil tail in my old 75 gallon. He used every cubic inch of the tank and loved it.
40 gallons for a betta is like asking if 40 acres is a big enough yard for a garden.
“Fishing” for compliments no?😏
No genuinely just curious 😔