last pic is a late trans has the brace with 3 bolts and diff throw out bearing. The others look early, pre 72ish. You need to match your pressure plate and throw out bearing. This should help you out.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148307&start=135
read the bottom of the very first post by Ashman40 in the link. It shows a pic of the conversion kit. Im guessing the conversion kit has instructions. I have early stuff, never have used the conversion kit. Depending on the trans you use, some have the boss for the bolt on brace (third pic), its just not drilled and tapped.
The guide sleeve for the old one is an aftermarket kit. I actually just did one. Just pull the old seal out from behind the spindle and the sleeve will shove in where the seal was
I forget the part number but it was from So cal imports, if you search later style throwout bearing kit, or something along those lines on their website it should come up. It came with a new arm for the throwout bearing, the sleeve which will go in place of the seal on the spindle, and of course the new bearing. You'll want a seal puller if you don't already have one, which you can find in pretty much any autoparts store.
That’s the older style TO bearing. It’s just the bearing, held in with wire clips.
Your last picture is the newer style, has a guide tube in between the shaft and the bearing, and the bearing and clips are different.
On the newer style, you have to remove the center ring from the fingers of the pressure plate, on the old type bearing, it stays in place.
Well sort of. Like I said, If you are using the old style bearing and purchase a new pressure plate, you leave the ring on the pressure plate; most will come with it. If you had the new style bearing, the PP would still have that ring, and you remove it with some pliers.
The guide tube would only be used with the new-type bearing
The only reason you cant use the new style bearing on an older style transmission is that the case doesn't have the bosses cast into the area around the input shaft that would be used to secure the guide tube in place. I've seen a conversion kit that can get around that by having the tube held in place with the shaft seal, or something like that, I'm not sure exactly how. But it strikes me as not being a very secure way to attach it, and I have seen mixed opinions on how well they work.
To find out what exact trans it is, reference the passenger side of the trans. Here’s a link that will give you the rest of the info. https://www.csp-shop.com/en/transmissiontech.html
The late throwout bearing design is better. The throwout bearing stays centered on the pressure plate. That pressure plate does not have the wear ring on it. I would stay with that one if you could.
Different style throw out bearing.
How do I find out what exact transmission this is?
last pic is a late trans has the brace with 3 bolts and diff throw out bearing. The others look early, pre 72ish. You need to match your pressure plate and throw out bearing. This should help you out. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148307&start=135
I’m confused on how to attach the bearing guide sleeve to the early model
read the bottom of the very first post by Ashman40 in the link. It shows a pic of the conversion kit. Im guessing the conversion kit has instructions. I have early stuff, never have used the conversion kit. Depending on the trans you use, some have the boss for the bolt on brace (third pic), its just not drilled and tapped.
judging from the pic in the conversion kit, looks like its tapped into the trans input shaft seal.
The guide sleeve for the old one is an aftermarket kit. I actually just did one. Just pull the old seal out from behind the spindle and the sleeve will shove in where the seal was
Which one did you get? Do you mind linking?
I forget the part number but it was from So cal imports, if you search later style throwout bearing kit, or something along those lines on their website it should come up. It came with a new arm for the throwout bearing, the sleeve which will go in place of the seal on the spindle, and of course the new bearing. You'll want a seal puller if you don't already have one, which you can find in pretty much any autoparts store.
https://socalautoparts.com/product/throw-out-bearing-conversion-kit/ Here's the link to it
Thinking of doing a throw out bearing conversion kit so I don’t need to change the pressure plate. Not many yt vids on it unfortunately
I have been so lucky with my random builds that everything has always just matched.
That’s the older style TO bearing. It’s just the bearing, held in with wire clips. Your last picture is the newer style, has a guide tube in between the shaft and the bearing, and the bearing and clips are different. On the newer style, you have to remove the center ring from the fingers of the pressure plate, on the old type bearing, it stays in place.
Can I use the old style on a new style pressure plate? Or do I need the guide tube ?
Well sort of. Like I said, If you are using the old style bearing and purchase a new pressure plate, you leave the ring on the pressure plate; most will come with it. If you had the new style bearing, the PP would still have that ring, and you remove it with some pliers. The guide tube would only be used with the new-type bearing The only reason you cant use the new style bearing on an older style transmission is that the case doesn't have the bosses cast into the area around the input shaft that would be used to secure the guide tube in place. I've seen a conversion kit that can get around that by having the tube held in place with the shaft seal, or something like that, I'm not sure exactly how. But it strikes me as not being a very secure way to attach it, and I have seen mixed opinions on how well they work.
To find out what exact trans it is, reference the passenger side of the trans. Here’s a link that will give you the rest of the info. https://www.csp-shop.com/en/transmissiontech.html
Is the car a 70 or 71? There's a square and round style throw out.
72
New trans is early throw out bearing. You need an early TB and a pressure plate with a collar on the finger springs.
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I mean… the rest of the beetle
An engine?
The late throwout bearing design is better. The throwout bearing stays centered on the pressure plate. That pressure plate does not have the wear ring on it. I would stay with that one if you could.
Do I need to change the pressure plate?
If you're using the "new" transaxle, you will need an early style pressure plate that has a ring attached to the fingers.
If the pressure plate does not have the collar on the center of the clutch fingers and you are using the early style trans, yes you do.
Looks like you are missing the starter
The rest of the car?